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    stats1
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 3:46 PM ET #1

    should have a great idea who the 4 or 5 drivers that have a great chance 2 win this weekend..   4HRS of testing wed. and 6HRS on thur. then 3hrs of practice fri.    lots of hrs. on track this weekend...  lets not 4get this race has been cut back 50laps/100miles   strategy will b alot different then b4.  have to believe a lot more emphasis will b on qual.   not sure what the pit window will b on fuel but i am sure they will all b focusing on that during testing wed. and thur.   if some of them can make fuel runs of 40 laps this could b a 3 stop race, could easily c some crew chiefs running this weeks race like a road course..      my top 4 drivers 2 win are denny,gordon,smoke and kyle think he has figured this place out lately   and my 1 sleeper for sure will b juan he had a great run here last june...  bol 2 all this weekend...
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    should have a great idea who the 4 or 5 drivers that have a great chance 2 win this weekend..   4HRS of testing wed. and 6HRS on thur. then 3hrs of practice fri.    lots of hrs. on track this weekend...  lets not 4get this race has been cut back 50laps/100miles   strategy will b alot different then b4.  have to believe a lot more emphasis will b on qual.   not sure what the pit window will b on fuel but i am sure they will all b focusing on that during testing wed. and thur.   if some of them can make fuel runs of 40 laps this could b a 3 stop race, could easily c some crew chiefs running this weeks race like a road course..      my top 4 drivers 2 win are denny,gordon,smoke and kyle think he has figured this place out lately   and my 1 sleeper for sure will b juan he had a great run here last june...  bol 2 all this weekend...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 9:44 PM ET #2

    Was looking at Kyle also. I'll take the 8-1. Juan is worth the donation at 100-1.
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    Was looking at Kyle also. I'll take the 8-1. Juan is worth the donation at 100-1.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 10:37 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 11:50 PM ET #4

    Trying to remember...was Juan's good finish due to fuel mileage at the end of the race, or was he fast throughout?
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    Trying to remember...was Juan's good finish due to fuel mileage at the end of the race, or was he fast throughout?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 12:14 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Trying to remember...was Juan's good finish due to fuel mileage at the end of the race, or was he fast throughout?
      fast through out   he probably had the best car and got burned by a debris and was able to only rally back to a 7th place finish and in the aug.  race he was running in the top 10 and got caught up in a late race accident   he has 4 top 8's in his last 6 races here.   if he ever wins again it will b here,indy or a road course.   100-1 is great odds 2 me!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Trying to remember...was Juan's good finish due to fuel mileage at the end of the race, or was he fast throughout?
      fast through out   he probably had the best car and got burned by a debris and was able to only rally back to a 7th place finish and in the aug.  race he was running in the top 10 and got caught up in a late race accident   he has 4 top 8's in his last 6 races here.   if he ever wins again it will b here,indy or a road course.   100-1 is great odds 2 me!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 12:36 PM ET #6

    dimes just posted there #'s   few early plays 4 me all 2 win
    denny 4.5-1
    gordon/smoke 8.5-1
    kyle 11-1
    2 long shots that i threw a sprinkle on
    newman 38-1
    juan 66-1   thought i would get a 100-1 like sportsbook but dimes had him really dropped lower...    won't play any1 else 2 win except maybe a parlay with denny if he looks good n testing and practice..  can't wait i am all booked 4 this weekend taking my 11year old nephew to his 1st race at pocono...he is so pumped!!!   on a side note truck race this weekend has good odds...  think i will play sauter,dillon and buescher..  best of luck 2 all
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    dimes just posted there #'s   few early plays 4 me all 2 win
    denny 4.5-1
    gordon/smoke 8.5-1
    kyle 11-1
    2 long shots that i threw a sprinkle on
    newman 38-1
    juan 66-1   thought i would get a 100-1 like sportsbook but dimes had him really dropped lower...    won't play any1 else 2 win except maybe a parlay with denny if he looks good n testing and practice..  can't wait i am all booked 4 this weekend taking my 11year old nephew to his 1st race at pocono...he is so pumped!!!   on a side note truck race this weekend has good odds...  think i will play sauter,dillon and buescher..  best of luck 2 all
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 6:33 PM ET #7

    Bol this week stats, I'm leaning toward the 11 & 48! My upset special this week will be the 5 car!I think kasey has turned the corner with bad luck & will start heading up the points standing, along with 1 or 2 more race wins before the chase begins
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    Bol this week stats, I'm leaning toward the 11 & 48! My upset special this week will be the 5 car!I think kasey has turned the corner with bad luck & will start heading up the points standing, along with 1 or 2 more race wins before the chase begins
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 6:36 PM ET #8

    Also gl with the juan play, the only place i can lay any $$ on him is @ the brickyard
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    Also gl with the juan play, the only place i can lay any $$ on him is @ the brickyard
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 8:21 AM ET #9

    stats who u like in the truck race, my book has actually got craftsman truck lines up already. Hasn't texas been brandon gaughan's best track in the past?
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    stats who u like in the truck race, my book has actually got craftsman truck lines up already. Hasn't texas been brandon gaughan's best track in the past?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 10:37 AM ET #10

    24 !!!!
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    24 !!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 10:45 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    stats who u like in the truck race, my book has actually got craftsman truck lines up already. Hasn't texas been brandon gaughan's best track in the past?
        sauter,dillon and bueschler    sauter had the race 1 last year and nascar black flagged him on a g-w-c  restart 4 jumping the restart   and gave the win to hornaday  and then in nov.   is when kyle wrecked ron and got parked 4 the sprint cup race..   harvick won that race but i remember both dillon boys being strong..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    stats who u like in the truck race, my book has actually got craftsman truck lines up already. Hasn't texas been brandon gaughan's best track in the past?
        sauter,dillon and bueschler    sauter had the race 1 last year and nascar black flagged him on a g-w-c  restart 4 jumping the restart   and gave the win to hornaday  and then in nov.   is when kyle wrecked ron and got parked 4 the sprint cup race..   harvick won that race but i remember both dillon boys being strong..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 10:47 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by themaceo:

    24 !!!!
        i think his luck changes sunday unless he hits a on the track..   bol buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by themaceo:

    24 !!!!
        i think his luck changes sunday unless he hits a on the track..   bol buddy
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 2:41 PM ET #13

    Looking at the lines on sportsbook...I don't understand these.

    truex -170 over newman +135
    newman -145 over martin +115

    Their saying truex is way better than newman, but martin in a similar car is way worse than newman.

    I'm tempted to take newman +135 and martin +115.  If the toyota's do good I get martin +115, if they don't I get newman +135.  Is this genious, or a terrible idea?
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    Looking at the lines on sportsbook...I don't understand these.

    truex -170 over newman +135
    newman -145 over martin +115

    Their saying truex is way better than newman, but martin in a similar car is way worse than newman.

    I'm tempted to take newman +135 and martin +115.  If the toyota's do good I get martin +115, if they don't I get newman +135.  Is this genious, or a terrible idea?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 4:02 PM ET #14

    that newman play over truex  along with jeff -130 over carl r my 2 early plays  and i will try finding 1 match up with juan getting value  i have a big feeling about him this week...   also look at some of those odds on sportsbook.  burton,juan, mcmurray 100-1   this race is a race where a no namer could win if strategy is played right..
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    that newman play over truex  along with jeff -130 over carl r my 2 early plays  and i will try finding 1 match up with juan getting value  i have a big feeling about him this week...   also look at some of those odds on sportsbook.  burton,juan, mcmurray 100-1   this race is a race where a no namer could win if strategy is played right..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 5:04 PM ET #15

    Alan i dont understand those matchups either, the 55 & 56 have the same powerplant under the hood & both are very capable of running up front.  Stats theres no doubt childress is gonna put the dillon kids in good equipment & should be competitive! I'm leaning sauter & ole onion head @ texas. Was gonna play kahne early @ 15-1 for sundays race but my book done took their nascar lines off the board(reckon their watching these practice sessions also.
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    Alan i dont understand those matchups either, the 55 & 56 have the same powerplant under the hood & both are very capable of running up front.  Stats theres no doubt childress is gonna put the dillon kids in good equipment & should be competitive! I'm leaning sauter & ole onion head @ texas. Was gonna play kahne early @ 15-1 for sundays race but my book done took their nascar lines off the board(reckon their watching these practice sessions also.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 6:57 PM ET #16

    Juan is very good here, top 10 is almost a given without trouble, top 5 very good possibility......Practices will tell us alot, you can pretty much throw out all the past notes, track will be totally different now.
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    Juan is very good here, top 10 is almost a given without trouble, top 5 very good possibility......Practices will tell us alot, you can pretty much throw out all the past notes, track will be totally different now.
     
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    2     22     AJ Allmendinger  Dodge         51.420     175.029     
    3     48     Jimmie Johnson      Chevrolet     51.485     174.808     
    4     29     Kevin Harvick      Chevrolet     51.521     174.686     
    5     5     Kasey Kahne      Chevrolet     51.553     174.578     
    6     16     Greg Biffle      Ford         51.676     174.162     
    7     20     Joey Logano      Toyota     51.685     174.132     
    8     56     Martin Truex Jr.  Toyota     51.697     174.091     
    9     18     Kyle Busch      Toyota     51.744     173.933     
    10     42     Juan  Montoya      Chevrolet     51.746     173.926     
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    31     87     Joe Nemechek      Toyota     52.557     171.243     
    32     38     David Gilliland     Ford         52.791     170.484     
    33     34     David Regan      Ford         52.805     170.438     
    34     10     Dave Blaney      Chevrolet     53.665     167.707     
    35     74     Cole Whitt      Chevrolet     53.801     167.283     
    36     30     David Stremme      Toyota     54.181     166.110
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    1     55     Mark Martin      Toyota     51.317     175.380     
    2     22     AJ Allmendinger  Dodge         51.420     175.029     
    3     48     Jimmie Johnson      Chevrolet     51.485     174.808     
    4     29     Kevin Harvick      Chevrolet     51.521     174.686     
    5     5     Kasey Kahne      Chevrolet     51.553     174.578     
    6     16     Greg Biffle      Ford         51.676     174.162     
    7     20     Joey Logano      Toyota     51.685     174.132     
    8     56     Martin Truex Jr.  Toyota     51.697     174.091     
    9     18     Kyle Busch      Toyota     51.744     173.933     
    10     42     Juan  Montoya      Chevrolet     51.746     173.926     
    11     24     Jeff Gordon      Chevrolet     51.760     173.879     
    12     17     Matt Kenseth      Ford         51.760     173.879     
    13     14     Tony Stewart      Chevrolet     51.760     173.879     
    14     27     Paul Menard      Chevrolet     51.769     173.849     
    15     88     Dale  Jr.      Chevrolet     51.786     173.792     
    16     11     Denny Hamlin      Toyota     51.806     173.725
    17     39     Ryan Newman      Chevrolet     51.866     173.524     
    18     2     Brad Kez      Dodge         51.896     173.424     
    19     15     Clint Bowyer      Toyota     51.902     173.404     
    20     31     Jeff Burton      Chevrolet     51.906     173.390     
    21     1     Jamie McMurray      Chevrolet     52.066     172.858     
    22     43     Aric Almirola      Ford         52.133     172.635     
    23     78     Regan Smith      Chevrolet     52.191     172.444     
    24     9     Marcos Ambrose      Ford         52.225     172.331     
    25     99     Carl Edwards      Ford         52.326     171.999     
    26     26     Josh Wise      Ford         52.329     171.989     
    27     93     Travis Kvapil      Toyota     52.490     171.461     
    28     98     Mike McDowell      Ford         52.520     171.363     
    29     83     Landon Cassell      Toyota     52.527     171.340     
    30     13     Casey Mears      Ford         52.542     171.292     
    31     87     Joe Nemechek      Toyota     52.557     171.243     
    32     38     David Gilliland     Ford         52.791     170.484     
    33     34     David Regan      Ford         52.805     170.438     
    34     10     Dave Blaney      Chevrolet     53.665     167.707     
    35     74     Cole Whitt      Chevrolet     53.801     167.283     
    36     30     David Stremme      Toyota     54.181     166.110
     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #18

    ^^^^^

    1st practice
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    ^^^^^

    1st practice
     
    yourpixelarmy
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2012 - 3:16 PM ET #19

    Thursday morning:

    #22-Allmendinger 177.190
    #42-Montoya 176.602
    #55-Martin 176.595
    #15-Bowyer 176.550
    #11-Hamlin 176.218
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    Thursday morning:

    #22-Allmendinger 177.190
    #42-Montoya 176.602
    #55-Martin 176.595
    #15-Bowyer 176.550
    #11-Hamlin 176.218
     
    yourpixelarmy
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2012 - 4:26 PM ET #20

    Thursday Afternoon Practice

    1 Kasey Kahne 179.490
    2 Jamie McMurray 179.401
    3 Mark Martin 179.390
    4 Jeff Gordon 179.272
    5 Paul Menard 179.005
    6 Ryan Newman 178.809
    7 AJ Allmendinger 178.809
    8 Denny Hamlin 178.589
    9 Jeff Burton 178.486
    10 Kevin Harvick 177.859
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    Thursday Afternoon Practice

    1 Kasey Kahne 179.490
    2 Jamie McMurray 179.401
    3 Mark Martin 179.390
    4 Jeff Gordon 179.272
    5 Paul Menard 179.005
    6 Ryan Newman 178.809
    7 AJ Allmendinger 178.809
    8 Denny Hamlin 178.589
    9 Jeff Burton 178.486
    10 Kevin Harvick 177.859
     
    Goggles-Pisano
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2012 - 6:49 PM ET #21

    Did you say Juan and without trouble in the same sentence?
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    Did you say Juan and without trouble in the same sentence?
     
    TREE88
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2012 - 8:58 PM ET #22

    Juan and no trouble do not go together. He'll have to show me something before I get on him. Hopefully before the road race.

    Bol stats.

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    Juan and no trouble do not go together. He'll have to show me something before I get on him. Hopefully before the road race.

    Bol stats.

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2012 - 12:09 PM ET #23

    Juan at 80-1 is worth a small play, odds suck this week
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    Juan at 80-1 is worth a small play, odds suck this week
     
    yourpixelarmy
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2012 - 3:54 PM ET #24

    First Friday practice
    #55-Martin 179.379
    #1-McMurray 178.937
    #88-Earnhardt, Jr. 178.809
    #48-Johnson 178.678
    #22-Allmendinger 178.204

    I put 2 units on both AJ and Martin earlier today at 40:1 and 28:1 respectively. Someone is going to jump out front and dominate this race, and I have a feeling that it's going to be Martin. This guy has finished here 2nd... what.. 10 times? Never first though.
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    First Friday practice
    #55-Martin 179.379
    #1-McMurray 178.937
    #88-Earnhardt, Jr. 178.809
    #48-Johnson 178.678
    #22-Allmendinger 178.204

    I put 2 units on both AJ and Martin earlier today at 40:1 and 28:1 respectively. Someone is going to jump out front and dominate this race, and I have a feeling that it's going to be Martin. This guy has finished here 2nd... what.. 10 times? Never first though.
     
     
    kouz
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2012 - 5:02 PM ET #25

    I like the martin play, damn he's due a win @ the triangle, GL
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    I like the martin play, damn he's due a win @ the triangle, GL
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