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#1
Will any of these 4 win a race this year?? 
Kurt,Mcmurray,Menard, or Martin
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#5
Kurt Busch is going to win a race. You can absolutely count on that. 
Menard and McMurray have top 10 speed. They may even at times have top 5 speed, but neither are going to win if it's not for fuel strategy or a plate race.
I think Mark's still got a win in him, but we'll see if he can string together a full race. Look at last year at Michigan--he was about to lap the field until he blew a tire and almost died when the infield pit wall split his car in half.
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#8
Martin and McMurray not a chance. Menard maybe if he can get a pit stop at the end and get up front.
Kurt yes. On the short tracks and road courses he's as good as any of them. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win a race.
However, I would say no. Right now the best cars are so much better than the middle of the pack cars, and Roush has the only cars and drivers than can compete with the Hendricks and Gibbs, Bowyer and Keselowski.
Say this out loud:
"In order for them to win, they will have to pass/get in front of Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Kasey Kahne, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Kyle Bush, Denny Hamlin, Matt Kenseth, and Brad Keselowski."
When I say that out loud, the only conclusion I can come to is that there is no way they will win a race this year.
Great question though. I love these discussions.
Kurt yes. On the short tracks and road courses he's as good as any of them. Wouldn't surprise me to see him win a race.
However, I would say no. Right now the best cars are so much better than the middle of the pack cars, and Roush has the only cars and drivers than can compete with the Hendricks and Gibbs, Bowyer and Keselowski.
Say this out loud:
"In order for them to win, they will have to pass/get in front of Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Kasey Kahne, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Kyle Bush, Denny Hamlin, Matt Kenseth, and Brad Keselowski."
When I say that out loud, the only conclusion I can come to is that there is no way they will win a race this year.
Great question though. I love these discussions.
Kurt should win a race 4 sure 
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#14
I like Kurt's chances. McMurray needs to be replaced. Couldn't get it done for Roush and hasn't got it done for Ganassi. RCR is off again. They need to replace Burton and Mark is just consistent. Don't think the old timer can get the win necessarily but atleast he is still competitive. Unlike Burton. Just my thoughts on em.
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#15
Could not disagree more on mcmurray tree, when there equipment was top notch he did win the 3 biggest races of the year, plus who are they going to replace him with? IMO there is no free agent driver with more talent than Jamie.
Burton runs so bad I almost feel like hes just testing for rcr.
The only thing i dont like about kurts chances at sonoma is how everyone likes his chances at sonoma lol.
I have been on kenseth all year for wins and my pick to win the championship, but I think sunday showed multiple reasons why the 48 will probably win another championship.
Also the call against jimmie at the end of the race was complete bs, I like to see jimmie lose more than anyone, but seriously one of the worst calls ever.
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#16
cat.. That call was complete BS against Jim I agree but as far as McMurray we'll have to agree to disagree Since that year you are talking about in 2010 he has only 2 Top 5's in 85 races.There's no doubt Ganassi had something figured out in 2010 just look at JPM's numbers that year as well but even he has twice as many top 5's as Jamie since then. I just think he needs replaced. With who? Not sure but I'll bet Brian Vickers would be better right off the top of my head. In his last 13 races he's had 3 Top 5's and don't have a full time ride.
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#17
I think Kurt wins Sonoma, and I am pretty high on him for this weekend. He runs well at Pocono, and this team is getting closer to putting it all together. I thought that he would have trouble taking care of his equipment, but it seems like strategy is keeping them from a victory or two this year. No way do McMurray and Menard or Martin win this year. Just my two cents.
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#18
Definitively agree to disagree tree, I like hearing others opinions and love talking racing
Vickers i feel would be about wash, hes kinda like truex tho, cant close the deal.
Kyle larson would be the only guy atm i would trade jamie for. Ryan blaney has a lot of potential but not quite ready yet.
I also think both the dillons are overrated at least at this point in there career 
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#19
Lol Catdaddy I just recognized your avatar! 
Its all good bro.
I think Austin will eventualy take over Burtons spot. I don't see RCR fielding a 4 team operation.
Jury is still out on Larson but man that kid can flat drive. I watched him in the chili bowl this past year and was very impressed.
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#20
Could c any of the 4 winning this week at 50-1 or better!!! Any1 can win at pocono!!!! I remember 3 or 4 years ago having a quarter on hornish at 150-1 and he was leading with 12 to go and had enough fuel with a major lead and got fuckeddddd by a late race caution!
If I am not mistaken it was the race where there was a green white checkered and Kahne got n a bad wreck and almost flew off the track in to the woods 
If I am not mistaken it was the race where there was a green white checkered and Kahne got n a bad wreck and almost flew off the track in to the woods
bro. Logano is worth a shot @ a few of the tracks coming up in my opinion. What's your next race buddy?
and catch the race i am sooo excited about this race i love road courses....
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#24
Quote Originally Posted by catdaddy18:
Could not disagree more on mcmurray tree, when there equipment was top notch he did win the 3 biggest races of the year, plus who are they going to replace him with? IMO there is no free agent driver with more talent than Jamie.
i think newman will b more of a free agent then mcmurray once we figure out where newman is going all the seat changing will follow!!! is this burtons last year?? he is BADDDD but i don't beleive austin dillon is ready 4 cup!!! it has been 7 years since a rookie has done anything in cup (hamlin) i think stenhouse was brought up 2 early!!! would like 2 c vickers get another chance as i think it suckeddd the way he lost his ride!!! i could c larson replacing juan or jamie depending how they run the rest of the year... i think juan will win a race this year... Could not disagree more on mcmurray tree, when there equipment was top notch he did win the 3 biggest races of the year, plus who are they going to replace him with? IMO there is no free agent driver with more talent than Jamie.
Burton runs so bad I almost feel like hes just testing for rcr.
The only thing i dont like about kurts chances at sonoma is how everyone likes his chances at sonoma lol.
I have been on kenseth all year for wins and my pick to win the championship, but I think sunday showed multiple reasons why the 48 will probably win another championship.
Also the call against jimmie at the end of the race was complete bs, I like to see jimmie lose more than anyone, but seriously one of the worst calls ever.
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#25
Quote Originally Posted by stats1:
i think newman will b more of a free agent then mcmurray once we figure out where newman is going all the seat changing will follow!!! is this burtons last year?? he is BADDDD but i don't beleive austin dillon is ready 4 cup!!! it has been 7 years since a rookie has done anything in cup (hamlin) i think stenhouse was brought up 2 early!!! would like 2 c vickers get another chance as i think it suckeddd the way he lost his ride!!! i could c larson replacing juan or jamie depending how they run the rest of the year... i think juan will win a race this year...
Looks like Juan is gone i think newman will b more of a free agent then mcmurray once we figure out where newman is going all the seat changing will follow!!! is this burtons last year?? he is BADDDD but i don't beleive austin dillon is ready 4 cup!!! it has been 7 years since a rookie has done anything in cup (hamlin) i think stenhouse was brought up 2 early!!! would like 2 c vickers get another chance as i think it suckeddd the way he lost his ride!!! i could c larson replacing juan or jamie depending how they run the rest of the year... i think juan will win a race this year...
Only 14 races left if 1 of these guys is going 2 win 
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