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    stats1
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    Posted: May. 7, 2013 - 12:14 PM ET #1

    another race to me that is a wild card just like talladega!!! not a lot of data to fall back on as they only come here once a year and the track was paved not to long ago as the tires dont fall off like they used 2!!!! just ask r.smith and carl  my 4 early drivers to win will b gordon,carl,biffle,and kyle hope they all open at 12-1 or better except kyle  have to believe jj and denny will b the favorites at 6-1 for sure but i am staying away from both of them!!!  2 sleeper picks this week could b newman and martin if newman opens at 40-1 or better i will play that for sure and hoping 2 get value with him in match up's!!!  n the n.wide i will b playing kyle and kenseth as soon as odds r posted hoping both r 3-1 or better  only other sprint cup drivers are kahne and joey...  bol 2 all this week   lets hope for another sat. night firework show

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    another race to me that is a wild card just like talladega!!! not a lot of data to fall back on as they only come here once a year and the track was paved not to long ago as the tires dont fall off like they used 2!!!! just ask r.smith and carl  my 4 early drivers to win will b gordon,carl,biffle,and kyle hope they all open at 12-1 or better except kyle  have to believe jj and denny will b the favorites at 6-1 for sure but i am staying away from both of them!!!  2 sleeper picks this week could b newman and martin if newman opens at 40-1 or better i will play that for sure and hoping 2 get value with him in match up's!!!  n the n.wide i will b playing kyle and kenseth as soon as odds r posted hoping both r 3-1 or better  only other sprint cup drivers are kahne and joey...  bol 2 all this week   lets hope for another sat. night firework show

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2013 - 1:08 PM ET #2

    Love this track...stayed away from any wagering last week so it's good to have a track I can handicap.

    I'm reeeeeally hoping they put a matchup with Danica. She will get eaten up at this track.  Also hoping for a matchup with Mears.  Agree with you on Newman Stats.  I got to believe he's going to win 1 race this year.  Probably won't be a track like Texas, Atlanta, etc...gonna be one of these type of tracks...Phoenix as well.
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    Love this track...stayed away from any wagering last week so it's good to have a track I can handicap.

    I'm reeeeeally hoping they put a matchup with Danica. She will get eaten up at this track.  Also hoping for a matchup with Mears.  Agree with you on Newman Stats.  I got to believe he's going to win 1 race this year.  Probably won't be a track like Texas, Atlanta, etc...gonna be one of these type of tracks...Phoenix as well.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2013 - 1:53 PM ET #3

    Loving the 24 and 18 this week. Gordon must feel like he won last week ending up 11th and Kyle needs to bounce back at a place he's tamed before.
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    Loving the 24 and 18 this week. Gordon must feel like he won last week ending up 11th and Kyle needs to bounce back at a place he's tamed before.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2013 - 2:37 PM ET #4

    Wonder if Denny will race the whole race this week, I would assume yes and he may have some nice value.  Kahne will be another guy to keep an eye on too.

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    Wonder if Denny will race the whole race this week, I would assume yes and he may have some nice value.  Kahne will be another guy to keep an eye on too.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 10:12 AM ET #5

    few things that jump out at me from sportsbook's #'s and the greek has all there stuff posted just no #'s next to it yet!!! kyle the favorite at 5-1, jj/matt 6-1,kk/denny 8-1, carl,biffle,gordon,brad,and truex 12-1 thats where the value is to me!!!  tony 25-1 wow he needs a great run and this is 1 of 2 tracks he has never won at!!!  2 long shots that i will throw a quarter on for sure r martin 50-1 and newman 100-1    thegreek doesnt even have newman listed have him as the field but they will have odds on mcmurray,kurt,and stenhouse    another thing that jumped out at me when u go to sportsbooks matchup's there is a note there saying NO MATCHUP'S till after qualifying if the books start doing that its total BULLSHITTTT   thegreek hasn't done it!!!!   did c a group odds bet out there that i might hammer have never played these b4 but there is one with   almirola,burton,bayne,r.smith,and danica all +290 i am thinking about taking almirola and burton!!!  i c danica and bayne wrecking out and i think burton and or almirola can out run smith in the 51 finch just announced he is closing shop this year most likely after indy    

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    few things that jump out at me from sportsbook's #'s and the greek has all there stuff posted just no #'s next to it yet!!! kyle the favorite at 5-1, jj/matt 6-1,kk/denny 8-1, carl,biffle,gordon,brad,and truex 12-1 thats where the value is to me!!!  tony 25-1 wow he needs a great run and this is 1 of 2 tracks he has never won at!!!  2 long shots that i will throw a quarter on for sure r martin 50-1 and newman 100-1    thegreek doesnt even have newman listed have him as the field but they will have odds on mcmurray,kurt,and stenhouse    another thing that jumped out at me when u go to sportsbooks matchup's there is a note there saying NO MATCHUP'S till after qualifying if the books start doing that its total BULLSHITTTT   thegreek hasn't done it!!!!   did c a group odds bet out there that i might hammer have never played these b4 but there is one with   almirola,burton,bayne,r.smith,and danica all +290 i am thinking about taking almirola and burton!!!  i c danica and bayne wrecking out and i think burton and or almirola can out run smith in the 51 finch just announced he is closing shop this year most likely after indy    

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 10:14 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Love this track...stayed away from any wagering last week so it's good to have a track I can handicap.

    I'm reeeeeally hoping they put a matchup with Danica. She will get eaten up at this track.  Also hoping for a matchup with Mears.  Agree with you on Newman Stats.  I got to believe he's going to win 1 race this year.  Probably won't be a track like Texas, Atlanta, etc...gonna be one of these type of tracks...Phoenix as well.
    they have a mears/labonte match up  along with d.ragan/gilland   
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Love this track...stayed away from any wagering last week so it's good to have a track I can handicap.

    I'm reeeeeally hoping they put a matchup with Danica. She will get eaten up at this track.  Also hoping for a matchup with Mears.  Agree with you on Newman Stats.  I got to believe he's going to win 1 race this year.  Probably won't be a track like Texas, Atlanta, etc...gonna be one of these type of tracks...Phoenix as well.
    they have a mears/labonte match up  along with d.ragan/gilland   
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 10:17 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Wonder if Denny will race the whole race this week, I would assume yes and he may have some nice value.  Kahne will be another guy to keep an eye on too.

      i believe denny plans on running the whole race   kahne has no value this week   hope he opens double digits for the 600
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    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Wonder if Denny will race the whole race this week, I would assume yes and he may have some nice value.  Kahne will be another guy to keep an eye on too.

      i believe denny plans on running the whole race   kahne has no value this week   hope he opens double digits for the 600
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 5:10 PM ET #8

    Khane may have no value, but ill go ahead and predict he sits on the pole, has the best car, leads the most laps. With that said somehow he will not win the race of course   No way khane is double digits for the 600 he may be the favorite, dont think hes ever open as a favorite anywhere.
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    Khane may have no value, but ill go ahead and predict he sits on the pole, has the best car, leads the most laps. With that said somehow he will not win the race of course   No way khane is double digits for the 600 he may be the favorite, dont think hes ever open as a favorite anywhere.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 6:08 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by catdaddy18:

    Khane may have no value, but ill go ahead and predict he sits on the pole, has the best car, leads the most laps. With that said somehow he will not win the race of course   No way khane is double digits for the 600 he may be the favorite, dont think hes ever open as a favorite anywhere.


    If you are leaning that direction I would consider placing a wager on him to win. Past results show that the faster car usually wins here as 33% of the Sprint series races at Darlington have been won from the front row: 19 from the pole and 17 from second-place. Another stat I found interesting is that 86% of the past winners here have started in the top 10.

    Would have to agree with you I just watched last years race and Kayne defiantly had A car to beat but took 4 tires late in the race with not enough time to get back to the front. Johnson stayed out, ran close to running out of gas but had enough caution laps to win. Stewart also looked good in last years race as well, should be some good value there and like someone here said previously he desperately needs a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catdaddy18:

    Khane may have no value, but ill go ahead and predict he sits on the pole, has the best car, leads the most laps. With that said somehow he will not win the race of course   No way khane is double digits for the 600 he may be the favorite, dont think hes ever open as a favorite anywhere.


    If you are leaning that direction I would consider placing a wager on him to win. Past results show that the faster car usually wins here as 33% of the Sprint series races at Darlington have been won from the front row: 19 from the pole and 17 from second-place. Another stat I found interesting is that 86% of the past winners here have started in the top 10.

    Would have to agree with you I just watched last years race and Kayne defiantly had A car to beat but took 4 tires late in the race with not enough time to get back to the front. Johnson stayed out, ran close to running out of gas but had enough caution laps to win. Stewart also looked good in last years race as well, should be some good value there and like someone here said previously he desperately needs a win.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 6:17 PM ET #10

    Forgot to mention Kayne leads all active drivers with 4 pole position starts at this track.
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    Forgot to mention Kayne leads all active drivers with 4 pole position starts at this track.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 6:49 PM ET #11

    Kayne +1100 NOW at 5dimes!


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    Kayne +1100 NOW at 5dimes!


     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 7:14 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kayne +1100 NOW at 5dimes!



     

    All over that    Just a comment on truex, untill he proves he can win a race he should be no less than 20-1 anywhere  12-1 is way too short for him. Was trying to find a long shot to make a case for, and kurt is about the only 1 see with a chance. 5 18 and 99 my top 3 gut feeling on carl this week 
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kayne +1100 NOW at 5dimes!



     

    All over that    Just a comment on truex, untill he proves he can win a race he should be no less than 20-1 anywhere  12-1 is way too short for him. Was trying to find a long shot to make a case for, and kurt is about the only 1 see with a chance. 5 18 and 99 my top 3 gut feeling on carl this week 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 7:23 PM ET #13

    Gl this week bud.

    I like the 20 it but will hold out for a better line.

    I will be on the 5 for sure. at 11-1

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    Gl this week bud.

    I like the 20 it but will hold out for a better line.

    I will be on the 5 for sure. at 11-1

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 7:42 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    I like the 20 it but will hold out for a better line.

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    I like the 20 it but will hold out for a better line.

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 8:14 PM ET #15

    As far as Hamlin racing the full race this weekend here is his latest tweet:

    "More good news after this weeks scan. Healing is going really good and I'm ready to go the distance this week"

    He is averaging a 5th place finish at Darlington.
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    As far as Hamlin racing the full race this weekend here is his latest tweet:

    "More good news after this weeks scan. Healing is going really good and I'm ready to go the distance this week"

    He is averaging a 5th place finish at Darlington.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 9:56 PM ET #16

       Dimes just posted there #s few early plays 4 me
    Carl 12-1
    Biffle/ Gordon 13-1
    Only 1 early match up  Carl-truex -110  saw where thegreek posted there odds on n.wide race Kyle and Kenseth both 4-1 I will hammer them as soon as dimes posts there's!!!  I don't understand all the love for Kahne just don't c it But time will tell !!! Bol 2 All 
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       Dimes just posted there #s few early plays 4 me
    Carl 12-1
    Biffle/ Gordon 13-1
    Only 1 early match up  Carl-truex -110  saw where thegreek posted there odds on n.wide race Kyle and Kenseth both 4-1 I will hammer them as soon as dimes posts there's!!!  I don't understand all the love for Kahne just don't c it But time will tell !!! Bol 2 All 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2013 - 9:57 PM ET #17

    Going with Carl 11-1   Truex 15-1    Kurt TOP 3   15-1
    GL
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    Going with Carl 11-1   Truex 15-1    Kurt TOP 3   15-1
    GL
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2013 - 9:36 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



    roush dominated  1 point when they 1st moved this race 2 mothers day weekend i think bifle won 3 straight and dominated another race but blew up late giving the win to kyle!!!   u sure do love the gibbs cars if u have been betting them all year u r making some great    could  say they should have won fontana and dega!!! bol this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



    roush dominated  1 point when they 1st moved this race 2 mothers day weekend i think bifle won 3 straight and dominated another race but blew up late giving the win to kyle!!!   u sure do love the gibbs cars if u have been betting them all year u r making some great    could  say they should have won fontana and dega!!! bol this weekend
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2013 - 9:38 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by art-frost:

    Going with Carl 11-1   Truex 15-1    Kurt TOP 3   15-1
    GL
      love the carl play     save your $ on truex till he finally wins!!! bol buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by art-frost:

    Going with Carl 11-1   Truex 15-1    Kurt TOP 3   15-1
    GL
      love the carl play     save your $ on truex till he finally wins!!! bol buddy
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2013 - 12:15 PM ET #20

    JGR has produced some really fast cars this year and until I see otherwise I will be riding that train... As far as Kayne goes, he ran well here last year and seems to really turn it on during night races. That is of course until I place a wager on him then he ends up in the back every time...

    Can't fault your picks at all STATS, I'm thinking that if my picks don't win it will either be Edwards or Biffle that get's the win. Can't bet on all the cars and still profit, if this was easy everybody would be rich by now!

     I will have a write up coming with my reasoning for all of my picks soon.

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    JGR has produced some really fast cars this year and until I see otherwise I will be riding that train... As far as Kayne goes, he ran well here last year and seems to really turn it on during night races. That is of course until I place a wager on him then he ends up in the back every time...

    Can't fault your picks at all STATS, I'm thinking that if my picks don't win it will either be Edwards or Biffle that get's the win. Can't bet on all the cars and still profit, if this was easy everybody would be rich by now!

     I will have a write up coming with my reasoning for all of my picks soon.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2013 - 4:54 PM ET #21

    dimes posted n.wide odds only 2 winners 4 me
    kyle +290
    kenseth +450  played both BIGGG    bol 2 all
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    dimes posted n.wide odds only 2 winners 4 me
    kyle +290
    kenseth +450  played both BIGGG    bol 2 all
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2013 - 7:22 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



    You prob right bud. I just very rarely will play any driver less than 10-1 to win on the cup side. I just think Matt has a really good feel for this new car and his crew chief Ratcliff is beyond good. No biggie though if he don't get there I'll hammer some matches. Truex at 14-1 is interesting me though. We'll see how they shape up after practice.

    gl this weekend.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamesToBet:

    Kind of risky in my opinion, I can't remember the line on kenseth going up at any track this year unless he qualifies REALLY bad. In which I would almost stay away as I previously posted 86% of the past winners have started top 10. I see where you are coming from, his stats at the track aren't good but since switching to JGR I wouldn't put to much stock those numbers. I see odds makers are starting to realize this as well... His most recent performance was a top 10 finish with Roush. Put him in a Joe Gibbs toyota, of which all 3 cars ran well last race here (with Logano) and he should be a good bet.

    My Picks: Busch, Kenseth, Kayne and Hamlin.



    You prob right bud. I just very rarely will play any driver less than 10-1 to win on the cup side. I just think Matt has a really good feel for this new car and his crew chief Ratcliff is beyond good. No biggie though if he don't get there I'll hammer some matches. Truex at 14-1 is interesting me though. We'll see how they shape up after practice.

    gl this weekend.

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 9:27 AM ET #23

    stats, like the gordon play buddy. Jeff's history @ the lady in black is pretty good. may have to join you on that one!
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    stats, like the gordon play buddy. Jeff's history @ the lady in black is pretty good. may have to join you on that one!
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 4:55 PM ET #24

    wow!!!! gibbs cars starting 1,2,3,4 tonight      small card for me tonight... kyle 2 win +290, kenseth 2 win +450,  just added vickers 2 win +1600     1 matchup vickers-allgaier -150  bol 2 all that will do it 4 me tonight...
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    wow!!!! gibbs cars starting 1,2,3,4 tonight      small card for me tonight... kyle 2 win +290, kenseth 2 win +450,  just added vickers 2 win +1600     1 matchup vickers-allgaier -150  bol 2 all that will do it 4 me tonight...
     
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 5:26 PM ET #25

    I'm with you on your nationwide picks. Crazy how fast Busch's odds dropped once they were posted. Dropped from +325 to +275 in under 5 minutes, then within an hour or two down to +175! He did not sound to confident in his car during the post qualifying interview even after grabbing the pole for some reason. I like the Vickers pick too, you got some good value there!

    Picked up:
    Busch +325
    Kenseth +450
    Kayne +900


    Let's make tonight a profitable one!

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    I'm with you on your nationwide picks. Crazy how fast Busch's odds dropped once they were posted. Dropped from +325 to +275 in under 5 minutes, then within an hour or two down to +175! He did not sound to confident in his car during the post qualifying interview even after grabbing the pole for some reason. I like the Vickers pick too, you got some good value there!

    Picked up:
    Busch +325
    Kenseth +450
    Kayne +900


    Let's make tonight a profitable one!

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