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    vegasdennis
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2011 - 11:05 PM ET #1

    This race seems longer than Coke 600


    Will be on Hamlin once lines out
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    This race seems longer than Coke 600


    Will be on Hamlin once lines out
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2011 - 11:10 PM ET #2

    I will be ready to take a nap.
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    I will be ready to take a nap.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2011 - 11:19 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by freamer3:

    I will be ready to take a nap.


    The racing or TNT coverage
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    Quote Originally Posted by freamer3:

    I will be ready to take a nap.


    The racing or TNT coverage
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 12:13 AM ET #4

    flying in to philly sat. afternoon   staying in allentown sat. night and driving 2 race sun. morn.  i used 2 hate pocono until i went 2 this race 4 years ago when gordon 1 after 102 laps due to rain  and 2 years ago when stewart won his 1st race as an owner starting dead last in a backup car..   its something different then the normal 1.5 bullshit cookie cutters...    it does usually get boring during the middle of the race but the endings r usually good.....    3 drivers 2 jump on early 2 me r hamlin,tony, and bowyer  i think bowyer will b a great value bet he has ran well lately at pocono..   best of luck 2 all
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    flying in to philly sat. afternoon   staying in allentown sat. night and driving 2 race sun. morn.  i used 2 hate pocono until i went 2 this race 4 years ago when gordon 1 after 102 laps due to rain  and 2 years ago when stewart won his 1st race as an owner starting dead last in a backup car..   its something different then the normal 1.5 bullshit cookie cutters...    it does usually get boring during the middle of the race but the endings r usually good.....    3 drivers 2 jump on early 2 me r hamlin,tony, and bowyer  i think bowyer will b a great value bet he has ran well lately at pocono..   best of luck 2 all
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 1:38 AM ET #5

    Easily one of my favorite tracks. I love the racing here.

    However, it should be 400 miles--not 500.
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    Easily one of my favorite tracks. I love the racing here.

    However, it should be 400 miles--not 500.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 11:09 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    Easily one of my favorite tracks. I love the racing here.

    However, it should be 400 miles--not 500.
       agree i think they should cut 1 of the races to 400 miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    Easily one of my favorite tracks. I love the racing here.

    However, it should be 400 miles--not 500.
       agree i think they should cut 1 of the races to 400 miles
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 1:21 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    flying in to philly sat. afternoon   staying in allentown sat. night and driving 2 race sun. morn.  i used 2 hate pocono until i went 2 this race 4 years ago when gordon 1 after 102 laps due to rain  and 2 years ago when stewart won his 1st race as an owner starting dead last in a backup car..   its something different then the normal 1.5 bullshit cookie cutters...    it does usually get boring during the middle of the race but the endings r usually good.....    3 drivers 2 jump on early 2 me r hamlin,tony, and bowyer  i think bowyer will b a great value bet he has ran well lately at pocono..   best of luck 2 all


    I remember the Gordon rain win.If that stays green another half a lap Newman passes him
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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    flying in to philly sat. afternoon   staying in allentown sat. night and driving 2 race sun. morn.  i used 2 hate pocono until i went 2 this race 4 years ago when gordon 1 after 102 laps due to rain  and 2 years ago when stewart won his 1st race as an owner starting dead last in a backup car..   its something different then the normal 1.5 bullshit cookie cutters...    it does usually get boring during the middle of the race but the endings r usually good.....    3 drivers 2 jump on early 2 me r hamlin,tony, and bowyer  i think bowyer will b a great value bet he has ran well lately at pocono..   best of luck 2 all


    I remember the Gordon rain win.If that stays green another half a lap Newman passes him
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 3:29 PM ET #8

    ill def be all over hamlin and smoke 
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    ill def be all over hamlin and smoke 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 8:22 PM ET #9

    Didn't Reuty get a rain win here as well?

     

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    Didn't Reuty get a rain win here as well?

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 8:27 PM ET #10

    Reutti won at Charlotte, the 600 because of rain.

     

     

    Will be on Montoya for sure,  chance of us seeing another fuel race is at least 70% IMO

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    Reutti won at Charlotte, the 600 because of rain.

     

     

    Will be on Montoya for sure,  chance of us seeing another fuel race is at least 70% IMO

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 9:28 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:



    I remember the Gordon rain win.If that stays green another half a lap Newman passes him
       correct newman was closing FAST in the # 12 alltel car..   rain is always an issue @ pocono...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:



    I remember the Gordon rain win.If that stays green another half a lap Newman passes him
       correct newman was closing FAST in the # 12 alltel car..   rain is always an issue @ pocono...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2011 - 9:56 PM ET #12

    It seems to me that the drivers who do best on the road courses, also seem to run up front at Pocono.

    While he's been a trainwreck lately, I do like the #42 for a top 5. Not sure if I think he'll outrun the #11 or a hooked up Roush car.
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    It seems to me that the drivers who do best on the road courses, also seem to run up front at Pocono.

    While he's been a trainwreck lately, I do like the #42 for a top 5. Not sure if I think he'll outrun the #11 or a hooked up Roush car.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 9:05 AM ET #13

    Early lines at greek

         Denny Hamlin     +400     
         Jimmie Johnson   +600     
         Carl Edwards       +700     
         Kyle Busch         +1000     
         Tony Stewart       +1000     
         Kevin Harvick       +1200     
         Matt Kenseth       +1200     
        Jeff Gordon         +1400     
        Greg Biffle         +1400     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1400     
         Kurt Busch         +2500     
         Jeff Burton         +3000     
         Clint Bowyer      +3000     
         Kasey Kahne     +3000     
         Juan Montoya    +4000     
         Joey Logano       +4000     
         Mark Martin        +4000     
         Ryan Newman    +4000     
         Brian Vickers      +4000     
         Martin Truex Jr     +4000     
         Jamie McMurray   +4000     
         David Reutimann   +5000     
         Field         +2000     

     

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    Early lines at greek

         Denny Hamlin     +400     
         Jimmie Johnson   +600     
         Carl Edwards       +700     
         Kyle Busch         +1000     
         Tony Stewart       +1000     
         Kevin Harvick       +1200     
         Matt Kenseth       +1200     
        Jeff Gordon         +1400     
        Greg Biffle         +1400     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1400     
         Kurt Busch         +2500     
         Jeff Burton         +3000     
         Clint Bowyer      +3000     
         Kasey Kahne     +3000     
         Juan Montoya    +4000     
         Joey Logano       +4000     
         Mark Martin        +4000     
         Ryan Newman    +4000     
         Brian Vickers      +4000     
         Martin Truex Jr     +4000     
         Jamie McMurray   +4000     
         David Reutimann   +5000     
         Field         +2000     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 9:08 AM ET #14

         Qualifying match ups at the greek


           Denny Hamlin     -125     
          Jimmie Johnson     +100
        
         Kurt Busch         -125     
         Kasey Kahne         +100     
     
         Tony Stewart         -120     
         Kyle Busch         -105
        
         Carl Edwards         -120     
         Greg Biffle         -105
        
         Mark Martin         -115     
         Dale Earnhardt Jr   -110
        
         Jeff Burton         -115     
         Joey Logano         -110     

     
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         Qualifying match ups at the greek


           Denny Hamlin     -125     
          Jimmie Johnson     +100
        
         Kurt Busch         -125     
         Kasey Kahne         +100     
     
         Tony Stewart         -120     
         Kyle Busch         -105
        
         Carl Edwards         -120     
         Greg Biffle         -105
        
         Mark Martin         -115     
         Dale Earnhardt Jr   -110
        
         Jeff Burton         -115     
         Joey Logano         -110     

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 9:15 AM ET #15

    Think you got to really like Martin over JR. Only once this year has Jr out qualified Martin and that was at Daytona .Martin has started in front of Jr 6 of the last 7 trips here at Pocono.Surprised to see this line at -115.
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    Think you got to really like Martin over JR. Only once this year has Jr out qualified Martin and that was at Daytona .Martin has started in front of Jr 6 of the last 7 trips here at Pocono.Surprised to see this line at -115.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 9:31 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Early lines at greek

         Denny Hamlin     +400     
         Jimmie Johnson   +600     
         Carl Edwards       +700     
         Kyle Busch         +1000     
         Tony Stewart       +1000     
         Kevin Harvick       +1200     
         Matt Kenseth       +1200     
        Jeff Gordon         +1400     
        Greg Biffle         +1400     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1400     
         Kurt Busch         +2500     
         Jeff Burton         +3000     
         Clint Bowyer      +3000     
         Kasey Kahne     +3000     
         Juan Montoya    +4000     
         Joey Logano       +4000     
         Mark Martin        +4000     
         Ryan Newman    +4000     
         Brian Vickers      +4000     
         Martin Truex Jr     +4000     
         Jamie McMurray   +4000     
         David Reutimann   +5000     
         Field         +2000     

     

    its a decent drop from jr. to kurt busch.....  3 drivers with value to me r     kurt,kasey, and juan for sure ..     this race might b a rain shorted race or ran on monday not what i want with me flying in sat. morn.     best of luck 2 all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Early lines at greek

         Denny Hamlin     +400     
         Jimmie Johnson   +600     
         Carl Edwards       +700     
         Kyle Busch         +1000     
         Tony Stewart       +1000     
         Kevin Harvick       +1200     
         Matt Kenseth       +1200     
        Jeff Gordon         +1400     
        Greg Biffle         +1400     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1400     
         Kurt Busch         +2500     
         Jeff Burton         +3000     
         Clint Bowyer      +3000     
         Kasey Kahne     +3000     
         Juan Montoya    +4000     
         Joey Logano       +4000     
         Mark Martin        +4000     
         Ryan Newman    +4000     
         Brian Vickers      +4000     
         Martin Truex Jr     +4000     
         Jamie McMurray   +4000     
         David Reutimann   +5000     
         Field         +2000     

     

    its a decent drop from jr. to kurt busch.....  3 drivers with value to me r     kurt,kasey, and juan for sure ..     this race might b a rain shorted race or ran on monday not what i want with me flying in sat. morn.     best of luck 2 all
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 10:05 AM ET #17

    Weather forecast.Long range out look but it looks good.

    Friday, 10
    Chance of a Thunderstorm
    81 | 56 °F
    Chance of T-storms 20%


    Saturday, 11
    Chance of Rain
    76 | 56 °F
    Chance of Rain  20%

    Sunday, 12
    Chance of a Thunderstorm
    72 | 54 °F
    Chance of T-storms 20%
     
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    Weather forecast.Long range out look but it looks good.

    Friday, 10
    Chance of a Thunderstorm
    81 | 56 °F
    Chance of T-storms 20%


    Saturday, 11
    Chance of Rain
    76 | 56 °F
    Chance of Rain  20%

    Sunday, 12
    Chance of a Thunderstorm
    72 | 54 °F
    Chance of T-storms 20%
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 11:02 AM ET #18

    Now that I think about it, wasn't Logano having an exceptionally strong 4th place run here until Harvick spun him in the waning laps? This is where the famous "His wife wears the firesuit in the family" came from if I'm not mistaken.
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    Now that I think about it, wasn't Logano having an exceptionally strong 4th place run here until Harvick spun him in the waning laps? This is where the famous "His wife wears the firesuit in the family" came from if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 11:08 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Think you got to really like Martin over JR. Only once this year has Jr out qualified Martin and that was at Daytona .Martin has started in front of Jr 6 of the last 7 trips here at Pocono.Surprised to see this line at -115.



    Think due to Jr Started 3rd in this race last year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Think you got to really like Martin over JR. Only once this year has Jr out qualified Martin and that was at Daytona .Martin has started in front of Jr 6 of the last 7 trips here at Pocono.Surprised to see this line at -115.



    Think due to Jr Started 3rd in this race last year
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 11:27 AM ET #20

    Early Plays

    Hamlin +400

    Stewart +1000
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    Early Plays

    Hamlin +400

    Stewart +1000
     
    Looselugs
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 12:53 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    Now that I think about it, wasn't Logano having an exceptionally strong 4th place run here until Harvick spun him in the waning laps? This is where the famous "His wife wears the firesuit in the family" came from if I'm not mistaken.



    You are correct. I had forgot about that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    Now that I think about it, wasn't Logano having an exceptionally strong 4th place run here until Harvick spun him in the waning laps? This is where the famous "His wife wears the firesuit in the family" came from if I'm not mistaken.



    You are correct. I had forgot about that..
     
    willydollas
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      They have allowed the engineers to gear 3rd gear closer to 4th gear this year for this race.  Essentially allowing drivers to shift here, which they have not been allowed to do for years.(I heard a few guys still could on real old tires but now everyone will be shifting).  Hamlin hasn't won here when they have been allowed to shift like this.  Could be a coincidence, or could be part of his success.  Hamlin should be favored, and has dominated here recently.  That being said, between the #11 team's struggles, the new engine design, and the wear and tear on the transmissions from the high RPM's from the down-shifting, and all the Gibbs engine problems: I don't think 4/1 is good value.  Coupled with how important fuel mileage has been this year, and historically at Pocono, I think there is big value out there.
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      They have allowed the engineers to gear 3rd gear closer to 4th gear this year for this race.  Essentially allowing drivers to shift here, which they have not been allowed to do for years.(I heard a few guys still could on real old tires but now everyone will be shifting).  Hamlin hasn't won here when they have been allowed to shift like this.  Could be a coincidence, or could be part of his success.  Hamlin should be favored, and has dominated here recently.  That being said, between the #11 team's struggles, the new engine design, and the wear and tear on the transmissions from the high RPM's from the down-shifting, and all the Gibbs engine problems: I don't think 4/1 is good value.  Coupled with how important fuel mileage has been this year, and historically at Pocono, I think there is big value out there.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 5:57 PM ET #23

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    Montoya @ +4200    .10 unit

    Love the value here, no way is this even half of what it is now come sunday. Juan knows how to get around Pocono, has come close for the V before, maybe this is the year????

     

    Bodine @ +450   .16 unit         (Trucks)

    Finishes in Spring Texas race since 2006   .......1st, 1st, 5th, 1st, 1st.    He looked good last week at Kansas and you can't argue with his record here , He has simply dominated the last few years in the Spring race.

     

     

     

     

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    Montoya @ +4200    .10 unit

    Love the value here, no way is this even half of what it is now come sunday. Juan knows how to get around Pocono, has come close for the V before, maybe this is the year????

     

    Bodine @ +450   .16 unit         (Trucks)

    Finishes in Spring Texas race since 2006   .......1st, 1st, 5th, 1st, 1st.    He looked good last week at Kansas and you can't argue with his record here , He has simply dominated the last few years in the Spring race.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 6:01 PM ET #24

    Stewart @ +1050    .10 unit      

    Guy has had the best car here many a times before, should be stout once again, plus he has been starting up front here the last few years, so this price may be down come sunday.

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    Stewart @ +1050    .10 unit      

    Guy has had the best car here many a times before, should be stout once again, plus he has been starting up front here the last few years, so this price may be down come sunday.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2011 - 6:52 PM ET #25

    Montoya is at least double what his odds should be. already played Juan.  The new transmission will drive more like a road coarse into the slow turn at Pocono. .  I always play him here and Indy and he finds a new way to let me down all the time.  agree with Stewart and like Kurt Busch's value.  
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    Montoya is at least double what his odds should be. already played Juan.  The new transmission will drive more like a road coarse into the slow turn at Pocono. .  I always play him here and Indy and he finds a new way to let me down all the time.  agree with Stewart and like Kurt Busch's value.  
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