I'm sure there has to be a few, and according to the commercial that's been running and touting the importance of said genre(sp) and before anyone gets the wrong idea i'm a firm believer in the adage "each to their own" I'm just trying to discern if the continued hype of the music is equal to it's true value.Well actually i know the answer to that question but if there is some good music that i have missed i'm eager to hear it.One thing though, it has to be human beings playing instruments and singing.![]()
Can anyone link a good hip hop song
I'm sure there has to be a few, and according to the commercial that's been running and touting the importance of said genre(sp) and before anyone gets the wrong idea i'm a firm believer in the adage "each to their own" I'm just trying to discern if the continued hype of the music is equal to it's true value.Well actually i know the answer to that question but if there is some good music that i have missed i'm eager to hear it.One thing though, it has to be human beings playing instruments and singing.![]()
Music is subjective, as is it's said "value". This is true of every genre. This is a ridiculous and pointless thread.
Music is subjective, as is it's said "value". This is true of every genre. This is a ridiculous and pointless thread.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Music is subjective, as is it's said "value". This is true of every genre. This is a ridiculous and pointless thread. Well excuse me.GFY
Go fuck myself? Wow, so sensitive.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Music is subjective, as is it's said "value". This is true of every genre. This is a ridiculous and pointless thread. Well excuse me.GFY
Go fuck myself? Wow, so sensitive.
My favorite "rap" song of all time. Albeit it's a cover/sample of the Isley Brothers. But what rap song isn't a cover or sample?
The lyrics are clean and sharp. No killing, stealing, or stupid shit.
My favorite "rap" song of all time. Albeit it's a cover/sample of the Isley Brothers. But what rap song isn't a cover or sample?
The lyrics are clean and sharp. No killing, stealing, or stupid shit.
The roots are the best and most noteworthy example of a hip hop group that actually plays instruments. In this video they parody the rap videos that were popular at the time, with the champagne bottles and scantily clad women, which is not their shtick at all. Many hip hop producers are actual real musicians and multi-instrumentalists. Sampling and drum machines were the beginnings of the genre but it has since evolved in many respects. Many of the bigger hip hop acts, even those with sample based beats, actually travel with full bands, when they can afford to do so.
This is Anderson Paak, who aside from being a vocalist, is a drummer and multi-instrumentalist. Hip hop is many things. It's not simply a cookie cutter genre. No genre of music is.
The roots are the best and most noteworthy example of a hip hop group that actually plays instruments. In this video they parody the rap videos that were popular at the time, with the champagne bottles and scantily clad women, which is not their shtick at all. Many hip hop producers are actual real musicians and multi-instrumentalists. Sampling and drum machines were the beginnings of the genre but it has since evolved in many respects. Many of the bigger hip hop acts, even those with sample based beats, actually travel with full bands, when they can afford to do so.
This is Anderson Paak, who aside from being a vocalist, is a drummer and multi-instrumentalist. Hip hop is many things. It's not simply a cookie cutter genre. No genre of music is.
You know, it's funny, punk rock musicians, most of them historically, can barely play their instruments. This is a well documented fact. I love punk rock but musically, it's often nothing more than chaos with some semblance of a best. EDM/House music has spawned multiple subgenres, all of which are based on sampling, drum machines, and computers. Heck, some of the more popular current pop artists responsible for the Top 40 stuff you hear on the radio, produced many of their most noteworthy tracks using programs like Fruity Loops. Yet you never see these threads about how some old timer hates punk rock, or hates EDM/house music. Or how some old timer hates Top 40 pop music but you always hear about how somebody hates rap/hip-hop. You always hear about how it's not real music but you don't hear about how Billie Eilish isn't real music. Isn't that interesting? I find it interesting.
You know, it's funny, punk rock musicians, most of them historically, can barely play their instruments. This is a well documented fact. I love punk rock but musically, it's often nothing more than chaos with some semblance of a best. EDM/House music has spawned multiple subgenres, all of which are based on sampling, drum machines, and computers. Heck, some of the more popular current pop artists responsible for the Top 40 stuff you hear on the radio, produced many of their most noteworthy tracks using programs like Fruity Loops. Yet you never see these threads about how some old timer hates punk rock, or hates EDM/house music. Or how some old timer hates Top 40 pop music but you always hear about how somebody hates rap/hip-hop. You always hear about how it's not real music but you don't hear about how Billie Eilish isn't real music. Isn't that interesting? I find it interesting.
@StumpTownStu
Seen the roots live about 7 or 8 times.
Each set was like no other set.
In Milwaukee at Summerfest years ago, they put on a set of straight rock n roll. Jimmi Hendrix style soloing it was amazing.
A couple years later I stumbled into Tao night club in Vegas. I was in the chill room, felt like staying out of the main club dance mayhem. The music was relaxed, soul mixed in trip hop and regae type vibe. Eventually noticed that Quest Love was DJ'ing. Got to talk to him a little on top of it.
Some folks are just talented on multiple levels, musically. And seeing them live doing it in different ways is the only way to know.
@StumpTownStu
Seen the roots live about 7 or 8 times.
Each set was like no other set.
In Milwaukee at Summerfest years ago, they put on a set of straight rock n roll. Jimmi Hendrix style soloing it was amazing.
A couple years later I stumbled into Tao night club in Vegas. I was in the chill room, felt like staying out of the main club dance mayhem. The music was relaxed, soul mixed in trip hop and regae type vibe. Eventually noticed that Quest Love was DJ'ing. Got to talk to him a little on top of it.
Some folks are just talented on multiple levels, musically. And seeing them live doing it in different ways is the only way to know.
Okay i cant play music but i have 2 good ears and have seen the Byrds - Muddy Waters ( 4 times ) alot of good funk bands in my area and a whole lot in between down thru the years. I started this thread because i do not and and still don't know what hip hop is.I see commercials on A&E tv for a show advocating the importance of hip hop music, when in reality it's all hype, the show and the so called music.I feel the EXACT same about punk.Nirvana gmab, i have friends who played and sounded better than they ever did, by miles...Davis. So you have this dude who wore a big clock necklace was on tv regarding the importance of hip hop.IMO there has not one hip hop song that could touch anything that encompasses the great songs of rhythm & blues, soul, etc. The Roots are without a doubt musically inclined and good.Many things i dislike in life but hate is not in my vocabulary and i have been preaching against that for many a year.Hip Hop Rap Punk is just about all the same.. A&E television shows not withstanding.When you have seen some of the greatest musicians of their time perfecting their craft there is no comparison to cats stealing a beat or two and the most important thing by far..rhyming, and kind of funny how that is also the easiest part of this hip hop rap music.
Okay i cant play music but i have 2 good ears and have seen the Byrds - Muddy Waters ( 4 times ) alot of good funk bands in my area and a whole lot in between down thru the years. I started this thread because i do not and and still don't know what hip hop is.I see commercials on A&E tv for a show advocating the importance of hip hop music, when in reality it's all hype, the show and the so called music.I feel the EXACT same about punk.Nirvana gmab, i have friends who played and sounded better than they ever did, by miles...Davis. So you have this dude who wore a big clock necklace was on tv regarding the importance of hip hop.IMO there has not one hip hop song that could touch anything that encompasses the great songs of rhythm & blues, soul, etc. The Roots are without a doubt musically inclined and good.Many things i dislike in life but hate is not in my vocabulary and i have been preaching against that for many a year.Hip Hop Rap Punk is just about all the same.. A&E television shows not withstanding.When you have seen some of the greatest musicians of their time perfecting their craft there is no comparison to cats stealing a beat or two and the most important thing by far..rhyming, and kind of funny how that is also the easiest part of this hip hop rap music.
Sometimes the best part of hip hop is the rapping skills, sometimes it’s the bass and the beat, and sometimes it’s about the lyrics. The best is about all three.
The backstory of this song is crazy. 50 Cent recorded this one for his first album, and as he was waiting for it to be released he was shot nine times (probably because of this song) and subsequently dropped by his label. He came back 2-3 years later and made millions.
The song also has samples, beats, and references to many prior famous songs as a hat tip to stuff by Biggie Smalls and Keith Murray.
https://youtu.be/I5x6OLLXJoQ?si=WyGNZfyXBVtCRV7w
Sometimes the best part of hip hop is the rapping skills, sometimes it’s the bass and the beat, and sometimes it’s about the lyrics. The best is about all three.
The backstory of this song is crazy. 50 Cent recorded this one for his first album, and as he was waiting for it to be released he was shot nine times (probably because of this song) and subsequently dropped by his label. He came back 2-3 years later and made millions.
The song also has samples, beats, and references to many prior famous songs as a hat tip to stuff by Biggie Smalls and Keith Murray.
https://youtu.be/I5x6OLLXJoQ?si=WyGNZfyXBVtCRV7w
Mos Def has one of the best albums of all time. On that album, Mathematics is one of the most unique
https://youtu.be/8Ir-zFC9nFE?si=5dq21bvTxQTlPeDE
Mos Def has one of the best albums of all time. On that album, Mathematics is one of the most unique
https://youtu.be/8Ir-zFC9nFE?si=5dq21bvTxQTlPeDE
Ha ha
You know the deal
It's just me, yo
Beats by Su-Primo for all of my people, Negros and Latinos
And even the gringos
Three for the forth-coming live future shock
It's five dimensions, six senses
Seven firmaments of Heaven to Hell, eight million stories to tell
Nine planets faithfully keep in orbit
With the probable tenth, the universe expands length
The body of my text posses extra strength
Power-lift the powerless up, out of this, towering inferno
My ink so hot it burn through the journal
I'm blacker than midnight on Broadway and Myrtle
Hip-hop past all your tall social hurdles
Like the nationwide projects, prison-industry complex
Working class poor better keep your alarm set
Streets too loud to ever hear freedom ring
Say evacuate your sleep, it's dangerous to dream
For ch-ching cats get they cha-paow, you dead now
Killing fields need blood to graze the cash cow
It's a number game, but shit don't add up somehow
Like I got, sixteen to thirty-two bars to rock it
But only fifteen percent of profits, ever see my pockets like
Sixty-nine billion in the last twenty years
Spent on national defense but folks still live in fear like
Nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black
That's why they gave Ricky Ross all the crack
Sixteen ounces to a pound, twenty more to a key
A five minute sentence hearing and you no longer free
Forty percent of Americans own a cell phone
So they can hear, everything that you say when you ain't home
I guess, Michael Jackson was right, you are not alone
Rock your hardhat black 'cause you in the Terrordome
Full of hard niggas, large niggas, dice tumblers
Young teens and prison greens facing life numbers
Crack mothers, crack babies and AIDS patients
Young bloods can't spell but they could rock you at PlayStation
This new math is whipping motherfuckers' ass
You wanna know how to rhyme you better learn how to add
It's mathematics
Three strikes and you biddin' for life, mandatory
Four MC's murdered in the last four years
I ain't trying to be the fifth one, the millennium is here
Yo, it's six million ways to die from the seven deadly thrills
Eight-year olds getting found with 9 mill's
It's ten P.M., where your seeds at? What's the deal?
He on the hill pumpin' krills to keep they bellies filled
Light in the ass with heavy steel, sights on the pretty shit in life
Young soldiers trying to earn they next stripe
When the average minimum wage is $5.15
You best believe you gotta find a new ground to get C.R.E.A.M
The white unemployment rate is nearly more than triple for black
So front liners got they gun in your back
Bubbling crack, jewel theft and robbery to combat poverty
And end up in the global jail economy
Stiffer stipulations attached to each sentence
Budget cutbacks but increased police presence
And even if you get out of prison still living
Join the other five million under state supervision
This is business, no faces just lines and statistics
From your phone, your zip code, to SSI digits
The system break man, child and women into figures
Two columns for who is and who ain't niggas
Numbers is hard and real and they never have feelings
But you push too hard, even numbers got limits
Why did one straw break the camel's back? Here's the secret
The million other straws underneath it, it's all mathematics
Ha ha
You know the deal
It's just me, yo
Beats by Su-Primo for all of my people, Negros and Latinos
And even the gringos
Three for the forth-coming live future shock
It's five dimensions, six senses
Seven firmaments of Heaven to Hell, eight million stories to tell
Nine planets faithfully keep in orbit
With the probable tenth, the universe expands length
The body of my text posses extra strength
Power-lift the powerless up, out of this, towering inferno
My ink so hot it burn through the journal
I'm blacker than midnight on Broadway and Myrtle
Hip-hop past all your tall social hurdles
Like the nationwide projects, prison-industry complex
Working class poor better keep your alarm set
Streets too loud to ever hear freedom ring
Say evacuate your sleep, it's dangerous to dream
For ch-ching cats get they cha-paow, you dead now
Killing fields need blood to graze the cash cow
It's a number game, but shit don't add up somehow
Like I got, sixteen to thirty-two bars to rock it
But only fifteen percent of profits, ever see my pockets like
Sixty-nine billion in the last twenty years
Spent on national defense but folks still live in fear like
Nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black
That's why they gave Ricky Ross all the crack
Sixteen ounces to a pound, twenty more to a key
A five minute sentence hearing and you no longer free
Forty percent of Americans own a cell phone
So they can hear, everything that you say when you ain't home
I guess, Michael Jackson was right, you are not alone
Rock your hardhat black 'cause you in the Terrordome
Full of hard niggas, large niggas, dice tumblers
Young teens and prison greens facing life numbers
Crack mothers, crack babies and AIDS patients
Young bloods can't spell but they could rock you at PlayStation
This new math is whipping motherfuckers' ass
You wanna know how to rhyme you better learn how to add
It's mathematics
Three strikes and you biddin' for life, mandatory
Four MC's murdered in the last four years
I ain't trying to be the fifth one, the millennium is here
Yo, it's six million ways to die from the seven deadly thrills
Eight-year olds getting found with 9 mill's
It's ten P.M., where your seeds at? What's the deal?
He on the hill pumpin' krills to keep they bellies filled
Light in the ass with heavy steel, sights on the pretty shit in life
Young soldiers trying to earn they next stripe
When the average minimum wage is $5.15
You best believe you gotta find a new ground to get C.R.E.A.M
The white unemployment rate is nearly more than triple for black
So front liners got they gun in your back
Bubbling crack, jewel theft and robbery to combat poverty
And end up in the global jail economy
Stiffer stipulations attached to each sentence
Budget cutbacks but increased police presence
And even if you get out of prison still living
Join the other five million under state supervision
This is business, no faces just lines and statistics
From your phone, your zip code, to SSI digits
The system break man, child and women into figures
Two columns for who is and who ain't niggas
Numbers is hard and real and they never have feelings
But you push too hard, even numbers got limits
Why did one straw break the camel's back? Here's the secret
The million other straws underneath it, it's all mathematics
Hey Dear,
Absolutely, I appreciate your open-mindedness! If you're into authentic hip-hop with live instrumentation, check out The Roots' 'You Got Me' on Spotify – a blend of skillful musicianship and meaningful lyrics...Good Luck.
Best of Luck.
Hey Dear,
Absolutely, I appreciate your open-mindedness! If you're into authentic hip-hop with live instrumentation, check out The Roots' 'You Got Me' on Spotify – a blend of skillful musicianship and meaningful lyrics...Good Luck.
Best of Luck.
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