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    Who thinks Pujols uses HGH or Steroids?

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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 9:21 AM ET #26

    I don't know....Pujols has always been big...Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Sosa were all 25-40 lbs lighter when they came in the league and ballooned significantly....Albert had always been a large machine....
     
    Tough Call....
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    I don't know....Pujols has always been big...Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Sosa were all 25-40 lbs lighter when they came in the league and ballooned significantly....Albert had always been a large machine....
     
    Tough Call....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 9:30 AM ET #27

    His name is on the super secret list that was leaked a week or so ago.
    IMHO he miht be clean now but he has taken banned substances before.
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    His name is on the super secret list that was leaked a week or so ago.
    IMHO he miht be clean now but he has taken banned substances before.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:19 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    His name is on the super secret list that was leaked a week or so ago.
    IMHO he miht be clean now but he has taken banned substances before.
    You mean the list of 104?  His name has not been leaked as of yet. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    His name is on the super secret list that was leaked a week or so ago.
    IMHO he miht be clean now but he has taken banned substances before.
    You mean the list of 104?  His name has not been leaked as of yet. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:46 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by progolfer213:

    I don't know....Pujols has always been big...Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Sosa were all 25-40 lbs lighter when they came in the league and ballooned significantly....Albert had always been a large machine....
     
    Tough Call....


    Actually the knock on Pujols was that he was too small in the minor leagues with not enough power, all of a sudden he is HEMAN, go figure.  Lets face it all these guys talk and figure out ways to beat the system, to make themselves better.  They are competitive to the highest level that is why they are at where they are at.  I don't blame them for doing something that will make them better but I do think they need to be held accountable for their actions.  I don't know if Pujols took them or not, I do believe David Wells when he said about 80% of players take them.  If you look at the whole steroid era, it seems Tony Larussa has been around a lot of players that have been accused.  Kind of interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progolfer213:

    I don't know....Pujols has always been big...Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Sosa were all 25-40 lbs lighter when they came in the league and ballooned significantly....Albert had always been a large machine....
     
    Tough Call....


    Actually the knock on Pujols was that he was too small in the minor leagues with not enough power, all of a sudden he is HEMAN, go figure.  Lets face it all these guys talk and figure out ways to beat the system, to make themselves better.  They are competitive to the highest level that is why they are at where they are at.  I don't blame them for doing something that will make them better but I do think they need to be held accountable for their actions.  I don't know if Pujols took them or not, I do believe David Wells when he said about 80% of players take them.  If you look at the whole steroid era, it seems Tony Larussa has been around a lot of players that have been accused.  Kind of interesting.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 11:02 AM ET #30

    He had a torn ligament in his elbow last year. It is my opinion that this could be related to some type of drug use.
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    He had a torn ligament in his elbow last year. It is my opinion that this could be related to some type of drug use.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 11:06 AM ET #31

    definitely does.


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    definitely does.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 11:09 AM ET #32

    100% HE DOES...JUST LOOK AT THAT ABNORMAL BODY STRUCTURE
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    100% HE DOES...JUST LOOK AT THAT ABNORMAL BODY STRUCTURE
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 11:25 AM ET #33

    i don't know if he is or isn't,,,but i love when people say  "His faith wouldn't allow him to do that stuff",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
     
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    i don't know if he is or isn't,,,but i love when people say  "His faith wouldn't allow him to do that stuff",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 12:12 PM ET #34

    Most take something ... it is all legalese as to whether you say they are cheating or not.  If it is not on a banned list today it will likely be on a banned list iin a couple years.  Players are just ahead of the list and always will be.  Albert very likely takes some supplement. 
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    Most take something ... it is all legalese as to whether you say they are cheating or not.  If it is not on a banned list today it will likely be on a banned list iin a couple years.  Players are just ahead of the list and always will be.  Albert very likely takes some supplement. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 12:14 PM ET #35

    laces out dan
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 12:50 PM ET #36

    We would be naive to think he was absolutely clean.   Like someone else said, he could using some type of new supplement not yet banned.  A new "clear and cream".  
     
    Most people thought AROD was a specimen of a non-using steroid user. 
     
    One guy I think was a steroid monster that had never been caught, is Jeff Bagwell. 
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    We would be naive to think he was absolutely clean.   Like someone else said, he could using some type of new supplement not yet banned.  A new "clear and cream".  
     
    Most people thought AROD was a specimen of a non-using steroid user. 
     
    One guy I think was a steroid monster that had never been caught, is Jeff Bagwell. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 1:33 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by tm123:

    I thought he has already gone on the offensive saying test me anyway you want, because i've never taken and don't take either of those. It was right after A-Rod got popped.

    i thought there were strict rules between mlb and the union as to how, when, where, for what these guys can be tested so pujols kniows he can say that and he can't be tested any time, any place.  i think i remember bonds saying the same thing because he knew he could hide behind the rules the union bargained for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tm123:

    I thought he has already gone on the offensive saying test me anyway you want, because i've never taken and don't take either of those. It was right after A-Rod got popped.

    i thought there were strict rules between mlb and the union as to how, when, where, for what these guys can be tested so pujols kniows he can say that and he can't be tested any time, any place.  i think i remember bonds saying the same thing because he knew he could hide behind the rules the union bargained for.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 2:19 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Please-Cover:

    I truly believe he is on HGH, which is undetectable by urine samples.  (which mlb only tests)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Please-Cover:

    I truly believe he is on HGH, which is undetectable by urine samples.  (which mlb only tests)



    i believe you smoke weed! 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 8:13 PM ET #40

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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #41

    Polar...I dont see how he could of meant it any other way other than that...
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    Polar...I dont see how he could of meant it any other way other than that...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 9:28 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

     HGH makes you lean! Very lean in case you were inferring it puts size on, you lose weight on it...Zero fat, you have to eat like a horse! Roids put weight on a person which is why they usually go hand in hand, not saying he is or isn't and could give a shit really but be educated on something before responding to it. Unless I understood you wrong and if so my apologies but HGH leans you out and maybe why he started the topic cause it leans you but allows you too keep all your power and be injury and pain free.

    I understand the function of Growth Hormone and I understand that one of the primary characteristics is lipolysis. I also understand that another primary characteristic with HGH is the increase in muscle mass. The arguement that I have is that I don't notice any increase in size with Pujols. He's always been big but if he was taking Growth Hormone the majority would see a noticeable difference. And...I am educated regarding this shit. I've dealt with it and I know others who have taken it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

     HGH makes you lean! Very lean in case you were inferring it puts size on, you lose weight on it...Zero fat, you have to eat like a horse! Roids put weight on a person which is why they usually go hand in hand, not saying he is or isn't and could give a shit really but be educated on something before responding to it. Unless I understood you wrong and if so my apologies but HGH leans you out and maybe why he started the topic cause it leans you but allows you too keep all your power and be injury and pain free.

    I understand the function of Growth Hormone and I understand that one of the primary characteristics is lipolysis. I also understand that another primary characteristic with HGH is the increase in muscle mass. The arguement that I have is that I don't notice any increase in size with Pujols. He's always been big but if he was taking Growth Hormone the majority would see a noticeable difference. And...I am educated regarding this shit. I've dealt with it and I know others who have taken it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:01 PM ET #43

    Richard Simmons testing positive for having a dick and balls
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:37 PM ET #44

    If I were Pujols, I would keep taking or not taking what I'm taking right now. Not saying he's clean or dirty, but some players in the league are juiced and he's making everyone look like a boy playing a mans game. I don't think he's juiced, but anyone that performs to a super human level has to be judged on the public stage.
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    If I were Pujols, I would keep taking or not taking what I'm taking right now. Not saying he's clean or dirty, but some players in the league are juiced and he's making everyone look like a boy playing a mans game. I don't think he's juiced, but anyone that performs to a super human level has to be judged on the public stage.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:43 PM ET #45

    McCarthyism

    Seriously most of the NFL is on roids who cares.
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    McCarthyism

    Seriously most of the NFL is on roids who cares.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 10:54 PM ET #46

    he may have been on something at some point in his career....I highly doubt now and what he is doing now is just unreal. 
     
    Albert is clean
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    he may have been on something at some point in his career....I highly doubt now and what he is doing now is just unreal. 
     
    Albert is clean
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2009 - 11:29 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    You left out the word LEAN it promotes only very lean muscle mass, it burns fat at a very intense rate and speeds up the metabolism to again a very high rate. ROIDS must be taken with it if size structure of ones body is to be enhanced and as I am sure your aware from the experience you have with it then you know well insulin is also taken with it by bodybuilders or athletes looking to keep or enhance size while taking it as the insulin or insulin mimicker adds vast amounts of weight to combat searing leaning it promotes.

    Anyhow did not mean to bicker about it so will end that there, I am sure you know all this, just reacting as I often see people talking about all this shit like doctors not having a clue and pointing fingers for the wrong reasons.....

    With that out of the way as someone stated here he looked like a little punk before the big leagues and his size and power were noted as weaknesses in his game so he was not at all always big and for sure did not have anywhere near the same power if I recall correctly and I don't care and being a big guy myself who works his ass off I hate... umm... smaller weaker people these days just assuming every bigger stronger guy these days is on drugs but if I had to BET on it, I would wager my house and everything in it that Mr. Pujols has at sometime taken an abundance of sauce! His body did change quite a bit...But again could give a shit...Gimme a 40 million dollar contract or an option out of the league and a carwash job and I will walk around with 3 needles hanging from my ass for a few years and so would most in here if confronted with that choice!!! LOL......Peace bro no disrespect intended to your knowledge....Cheers.

    Well stated and I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    You left out the word LEAN it promotes only very lean muscle mass, it burns fat at a very intense rate and speeds up the metabolism to again a very high rate. ROIDS must be taken with it if size structure of ones body is to be enhanced and as I am sure your aware from the experience you have with it then you know well insulin is also taken with it by bodybuilders or athletes looking to keep or enhance size while taking it as the insulin or insulin mimicker adds vast amounts of weight to combat searing leaning it promotes.

    Anyhow did not mean to bicker about it so will end that there, I am sure you know all this, just reacting as I often see people talking about all this shit like doctors not having a clue and pointing fingers for the wrong reasons.....

    With that out of the way as someone stated here he looked like a little punk before the big leagues and his size and power were noted as weaknesses in his game so he was not at all always big and for sure did not have anywhere near the same power if I recall correctly and I don't care and being a big guy myself who works his ass off I hate... umm... smaller weaker people these days just assuming every bigger stronger guy these days is on drugs but if I had to BET on it, I would wager my house and everything in it that Mr. Pujols has at sometime taken an abundance of sauce! His body did change quite a bit...But again could give a shit...Gimme a 40 million dollar contract or an option out of the league and a carwash job and I will walk around with 3 needles hanging from my ass for a few years and so would most in here if confronted with that choice!!! LOL......Peace bro no disrespect intended to your knowledge....Cheers.

    Well stated and I agree.

     
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    Pretty obvious! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by amd:

    I didn't watch the news this week and I won't be watching next week. I don't even have an opinion on your thread or your belief. However, I will say that you don't have to listen to some scum bag news reporter to understand the circumstance...just look at the specimen. Pujols is fucking lean. No water retention whatsoever. If anyone on this planet tells you it's possible to take steroids without holding "water", kick the dumbfuck in the nuts for me and tell him to take a Physiology class.

    You won't retain any water if you take a cycle of equpoise, winstrol, and clenbuterol. You'll just be lean bone dry shredded. Look at the freaks in the Mr Olympia they are 300 pound bloated pigs in the off season but come time for the contest they hit the cutting cycle and drop like 50 pounds and have like 2 % bodyfat. There's steroids for Bulking and Cutting.

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    I didn't watch the news this week and I won't be watching next week. I don't even have an opinion on your thread or your belief. However, I will say that you don't have to listen to some scum bag news reporter to understand the circumstance...just look at the specimen. Pujols is fucking lean. No water retention whatsoever. If anyone on this planet tells you it's possible to take steroids without holding "water", kick the dumbfuck in the nuts for me and tell him to take a Physiology class.

    You won't retain any water if you take a cycle of equpoise, winstrol, and clenbuterol. You'll just be lean bone dry shredded. Look at the freaks in the Mr Olympia they are 300 pound bloated pigs in the off season but come time for the contest they hit the cutting cycle and drop like 50 pounds and have like 2 % bodyfat. There's steroids for Bulking and Cutting.

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