Nope, they don't know the final score of the game. They do however have an expected result based on their data. Over the long term, it will be more accurate than what 90% of bettors can come up with. Big difference.
This.
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Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:
Nope, they don't know the final score of the game. They do however have an expected result based on their data. Over the long term, it will be more accurate than what 90% of bettors can come up with. Big difference.
this is bulls.hit. everyone would be rich if betting against the public in baseball was profitable. but sadly that kind of betting is a loser in a long run. go figure. losers you are not even betting the real money
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this is bulls.hit. everyone would be rich if betting against the public in baseball was profitable. but sadly that kind of betting is a loser in a long run. go figure. losers you are not even betting the real money
Nobody said they try to induce action on every game. Some games...maybe even most game, they set a line and adjust it in response to market positions. But to think that they NEVER take positions is naive.
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Nobody said they try to induce action on every game. Some games...maybe even most game, they set a line and adjust it in response to market positions. But to think that they NEVER take positions is naive.
Having access to "secret knowledge" or trends that "Joe Public" doesn't know about.... do you think bookmakers would use that and make some wagers also...?
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Having access to "secret knowledge" or trends that "Joe Public" doesn't know about.... do you think bookmakers would use that and make some wagers also...?
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
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so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
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so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
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Quote Originally Posted by underthetotal:
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
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Quote Originally Posted by underthetotal:
so why in every angle you finish 50/50? and with losing money in a long run. you talking about one game? ok whats your record of the last 100 bets newbie????????????????????????
those % is not a real bettors. those % is only people playing with monopoly money. these so called public % means not much when it comes a bet with a real money. you don't know % of sharp bettors that moving the lines. to using that kind of % is a blind betting my friend. i tried this many years. and i'm a specialist on the lines my friend.
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those % is not a real bettors. those % is only people playing with monopoly money. these so called public % means not much when it comes a bet with a real money. you don't know % of sharp bettors that moving the lines. to using that kind of % is a blind betting my friend. i tried this many years. and i'm a specialist on the lines my friend.
@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
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@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
But seriously, WHAT does that have to do with gambling, at all? Not to mention how/why books move/set their lines? And you referenced it again today????
I'm curious, how is that used as a tool to handicap a game??
The reality is, you don't have any idea how much action these books are taking on a particular side, in any game. And if you are thinking that bookmakers are setting traps, but yet you trust these % numbers that you get, it's sort of contradictory. I mean why wouldn't they just be "trapping" you with these numbers too?
So when books set these trap lines, are they all colluding together? As most lines come out pretty much in the same range at all books (not always, but in general they are close).
If you cap a game, and then look at the line, and see it is WAY off from where you expected it, then what you need to do is figure out what you are doing wrong. Just calling it a trap and playing the other side is going to whittle your bankroll down to nothing over time.
...and please stop using some free contest that every Tom, person and Harry can just go on a free website without ever risking $$$ on it ever, as any sort of gambling tool for real money. Please.
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But seriously, WHAT does that have to do with gambling, at all? Not to mention how/why books move/set their lines? And you referenced it again today????
I'm curious, how is that used as a tool to handicap a game??
The reality is, you don't have any idea how much action these books are taking on a particular side, in any game. And if you are thinking that bookmakers are setting traps, but yet you trust these % numbers that you get, it's sort of contradictory. I mean why wouldn't they just be "trapping" you with these numbers too?
So when books set these trap lines, are they all colluding together? As most lines come out pretty much in the same range at all books (not always, but in general they are close).
If you cap a game, and then look at the line, and see it is WAY off from where you expected it, then what you need to do is figure out what you are doing wrong. Just calling it a trap and playing the other side is going to whittle your bankroll down to nothing over time.
...and please stop using some free contest that every Tom, person and Harry can just go on a free website without ever risking $$$ on it ever, as any sort of gambling tool for real money. Please.
@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
so if there is a trap. then it means the game is fixed? because bookies moved line and 75% bettors betting the game. so if that whould be not a fixed game the action whould be 50/50? just look at the data i saw a lot of losses even when wagerline show 80% one one side. and fav wins. go figure. that yesterdays one win means nothing my friend
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Quote Originally Posted by AllSportCapper:
@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
so if there is a trap. then it means the game is fixed? because bookies moved line and 75% bettors betting the game. so if that whould be not a fixed game the action whould be 50/50? just look at the data i saw a lot of losses even when wagerline show 80% one one side. and fav wins. go figure. that yesterdays one win means nothing my friend
@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
Great, so you figured out that people in a freeroll contest take favorites more than dogs. Way to crack the case Sherlock.
Money moves lines. It's a BUSINESS. No good business is going to intentionally expose their position more than they have to.
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Quote Originally Posted by AllSportCapper:
@ underthetotal: i worked in vegas from 1993 to 2007. i know a lot about the industry. sites like espn streak for cash and wagerline, where people are not betting real money are great tools if used properly. they are showing you what clueless people from the betting point of view, and simple fans think of a game. take it fwiw...good luck.
Great, so you figured out that people in a freeroll contest take favorites more than dogs. Way to crack the case Sherlock.
Money moves lines. It's a BUSINESS. No good business is going to intentionally expose their position more than they have to.
some people have too much time on their hands. not talking about you underthetotal. i will be back tomorrow. good luck all.
Which Vegas industry do you know a lot about anyway?
I think you might be the one with too much time on their hands, using non-gambling data to make decisions on what games to gamble on. I can take a poll of the ladies in my office to see who they think will win, if you want. Have fun digging up more trap game theories and other nonsense.
Thanks for all for brilliant insight on how the public takes favorites. I'm sure the books have no idea about this breaking theory and haven't set their lines accordingly!!
Either way, good luck on your pick. GO CUBS!
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Quote Originally Posted by AllSportCapper:
some people have too much time on their hands. not talking about you underthetotal. i will be back tomorrow. good luck all.
Which Vegas industry do you know a lot about anyway?
I think you might be the one with too much time on their hands, using non-gambling data to make decisions on what games to gamble on. I can take a poll of the ladies in my office to see who they think will win, if you want. Have fun digging up more trap game theories and other nonsense.
Thanks for all for brilliant insight on how the public takes favorites. I'm sure the books have no idea about this breaking theory and haven't set their lines accordingly!!
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