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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:00 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:

    You're the bum who thinks he knows it all, saying Kyle Drabek is a future ace


    Well he certainly isn't garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:

    You're the bum who thinks he knows it all, saying Kyle Drabek is a future ace


    Well he certainly isn't garbage.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:01 PM ET #27

    Sharp he could very easily turn into a ridiculous pitcher. He is a kid, he's got the stuff, he's got the time, he's got the coaching. Its a very good possibility. Agree with weebs, he is far, far from garbage.

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    Sharp he could very easily turn into a ridiculous pitcher. He is a kid, he's got the stuff, he's got the time, he's got the coaching. Its a very good possibility. Agree with weebs, he is far, far from garbage.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:01 PM ET #28

    Look at his major league stats, VERY AVERAGE!!!!
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    Look at his major league stats, VERY AVERAGE!!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:02 PM ET #29

    Doesn't even have a winning record, and his ERA is not very good
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    Doesn't even have a winning record, and his ERA is not very good
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:02 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by C2Knuckles:

    The Jays are also one of the few teams with no debt and they own their stadium.  I think in terms of viewers, they have the largest tv audience in baseball.  They are in fine financial shape overall.  
    Rogers Communications is the owner too, they can afford anything. 

    ding ding ding. Youre right man, but theres no point in trying to even explain it to this idiot. All he's doing is naming busts, yeah no shit some guys dont pan out. How about Roy Halladay Genius? Future ace, and is no the best pitcher in baseball? Want more? How about Tim Lincecum, Josh Johnson, etc the list goes on. fuck it though he's gonna come back with something like ya well..yesterday after school i watched the jays game and they only had 10 ppl at the game so that means drabek sucks! LOL peace boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by C2Knuckles:

    The Jays are also one of the few teams with no debt and they own their stadium.  I think in terms of viewers, they have the largest tv audience in baseball.  They are in fine financial shape overall.  
    Rogers Communications is the owner too, they can afford anything. 

    ding ding ding. Youre right man, but theres no point in trying to even explain it to this idiot. All he's doing is naming busts, yeah no shit some guys dont pan out. How about Roy Halladay Genius? Future ace, and is no the best pitcher in baseball? Want more? How about Tim Lincecum, Josh Johnson, etc the list goes on. fuck it though he's gonna come back with something like ya well..yesterday after school i watched the jays game and they only had 10 ppl at the game so that means drabek sucks! LOL peace boys

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:02 PM ET #31

    just like how Mark Prior had so much promise, at least Prior did something, all Drabek has done is have a 5 ERA
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    just like how Mark Prior had so much promise, at least Prior did something, all Drabek has done is have a 5 ERA
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:03 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by steelwill43:

    ding ding ding. Youre right man, but theres no point in trying to even explain it to this idiot. All he's doing is naming busts, yeah no shit some guys dont pan out. How about Roy Halladay Genius? Future ace, and is no the best pitcher in baseball? Want more? How about Tim Lincecum, Josh Johnson, etc the list goes on. fuck it though he's gonna come back with something like ya well..yesterday after school i watched the jays game and they only had 10 ppl at the game so that means drabek sucks! LOL peace boys


    2nd time he said "peace", yet he still comes back and writes another 1000 word paragraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelwill43:

    ding ding ding. Youre right man, but theres no point in trying to even explain it to this idiot. All he's doing is naming busts, yeah no shit some guys dont pan out. How about Roy Halladay Genius? Future ace, and is no the best pitcher in baseball? Want more? How about Tim Lincecum, Josh Johnson, etc the list goes on. fuck it though he's gonna come back with something like ya well..yesterday after school i watched the jays game and they only had 10 ppl at the game so that means drabek sucks! LOL peace boys


    2nd time he said "peace", yet he still comes back and writes another 1000 word paragraph

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:04 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster:

    To the Jays for Kyle Drabek, Aaron Hill and some guy Cobbs, this according to Bob McCown of the FAN590 in Toronto a few minutes ago. I find it hard to believe.  Anybody else hear this?

    If this happens it will  both teams I believe. Berkman to first base Jon Jay to Right field and Matt H. batting 3rd. Toronto would now have two sluggers again with Jose and Pujols(Wells now an Angel) with Lind they will contend with more offense at least. Pitching will still be a factor to deal with in the long haul though for both teams even with the additions and subtractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster:

    To the Jays for Kyle Drabek, Aaron Hill and some guy Cobbs, this according to Bob McCown of the FAN590 in Toronto a few minutes ago. I find it hard to believe.  Anybody else hear this?

    If this happens it will  both teams I believe. Berkman to first base Jon Jay to Right field and Matt H. batting 3rd. Toronto would now have two sluggers again with Jose and Pujols(Wells now an Angel) with Lind they will contend with more offense at least. Pitching will still be a factor to deal with in the long haul though for both teams even with the additions and subtractions.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:05 PM ET #34

    ok you just keep naming cubs pitchers who ended up sucking. Congrats, your organization doesnt know how to develop its pitchers. Drabek is a rookie, check lincecums and halladays rookie stats then come back
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    ok you just keep naming cubs pitchers who ended up sucking. Congrats, your organization doesnt know how to develop its pitchers. Drabek is a rookie, check lincecums and halladays rookie stats then come back
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:06 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:

    Doesn't even have a winning record, and his ERA is not very good


    You're talking about a guy who has 11 career starts.

    Roy Halladay from 1998-2000:

    33 starts, 13-14 record, 5.77 ERA, 1.71 WHIP

    Need I say more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:

    Doesn't even have a winning record, and his ERA is not very good


    You're talking about a guy who has 11 career starts.

    Roy Halladay from 1998-2000:

    33 starts, 13-14 record, 5.77 ERA, 1.71 WHIP

    Need I say more?
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:06 PM ET #36

    all the Blue Jays fans are mad cause I said only 5,000 fans go to the game.....they know it's true, that's why they are angry
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    all the Blue Jays fans are mad cause I said only 5,000 fans go to the game.....they know it's true, that's why they are angry
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:06 PM ET #37

    Its his first real season. It is 2 months in. He has showed ups and downs. There is no doubting that the kid has the stuff. If you are just looking at the stats of a young pitcher and not actually watching him pitch and how he handles situations then you really are not getting a full picture.
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    Its his first real season. It is 2 months in. He has showed ups and downs. There is no doubting that the kid has the stuff. If you are just looking at the stats of a young pitcher and not actually watching him pitch and how he handles situations then you really are not getting a full picture.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:07 PM ET #38

    might as well compare, Drabek to Sandy Koufax, since you're comparing him to Halladay
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    might as well compare, Drabek to Sandy Koufax, since you're comparing him to Halladay
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:08 PM ET #39

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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:08 PM ET #40

    talk to me when Drabek's ERA is below 4
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    talk to me when Drabek's ERA is below 4
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:09 PM ET #41

    Put Morrow in place of Drabek and you got a deal.
    Go Green
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    Put Morrow in place of Drabek and you got a deal.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:10 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBettor1:

    all the Blue Jays fans are mad cause I said only 5,000 fans go to the game.....they know it's true, that's why they are angry


    We're not mad about that. Believe me...ALL of us have been to many games that have drawn 10-15 thousand. There's no denying that.
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    all the Blue Jays fans are mad cause I said only 5,000 fans go to the game.....they know it's true, that's why they are angry


    We're not mad about that. Believe me...ALL of us have been to many games that have drawn 10-15 thousand. There's no denying that.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:10 PM ET #43

    yah why the hell would we be angry about that? Sharp you're not the smartest in the entire world.

     

    BOL in your life

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    yah why the hell would we be angry about that? Sharp you're not the smartest in the entire world.

     

    BOL in your life

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #44

    I'm from Toronto and will say this: There is NO WAY Pujols is coming here.  The Jays never land the megastar.  I do think it's a good deal though: Drabek will be amazing in a few years. 
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    I'm from Toronto and will say this: There is NO WAY Pujols is coming here.  The Jays never land the megastar.  I do think it's a good deal though: Drabek will be amazing in a few years. 
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #45

    Seriously, though. Your points have been...

    1. Rogers Communication has no money because no fans come to the game.

    2. Drabek is crap because his ERA after 11 career starts is 4.80.

    These aren't exactly the strongest arguments, IMO.
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    Seriously, though. Your points have been...

    1. Rogers Communication has no money because no fans come to the game.

    2. Drabek is crap because his ERA after 11 career starts is 4.80.

    These aren't exactly the strongest arguments, IMO.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:13 PM ET #46

    Dave Duncan will try to hone his skills and is Cobbs a hitter or Pitcher?

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    Dave Duncan will try to hone his skills and is Cobbs a hitter or Pitcher?

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:14 PM ET #47

    Anyways, I didn't say he's crap, I said he's average yet so many people in here think he's gonna be the next Tim Linecum or Roy Halladay
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    Anyways, I didn't say he's crap, I said he's average yet so many people in here think he's gonna be the next Tim Linecum or Roy Halladay
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Seriously, though. Your points have been...

    1. Rogers Communication has no money because no fans come to the game.

    2. Drabek is crap because his ERA after 11 career starts is 4.80.

    These aren't exactly the strongest arguments, IMO.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Seriously, though. Your points have been...

    1. Rogers Communication has no money because no fans come to the game.

    2. Drabek is crap because his ERA after 11 career starts is 4.80.

    These aren't exactly the strongest arguments, IMO.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 3:15 PM ET #49

    Sharp I dont think anyone had said that. He was just making comparisons simply stating that 11 career starts does not tell all.
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    Sharp I dont think anyone had said that. He was just making comparisons simply stating that 11 career starts does not tell all.
     
     
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    Steelwill, do you always get this angry when someone disagrees with you? I relaize Sharpbettor may not have all the facts, but he didn't say anything that outrageous. Here are some facts though...Toronto was only 19th in profits in MLB 2010, they're 26th in value according to forbes in 2010 & 21st in attendance. I also know that Toronto is always going to be a Leafs town, but the Leafs only play at the same time as the Blue Jays for 2 weeks of the season. Does any of this mean they won't go after Pujols? Maybe not, but i don't see how it makes much sense for them. By the way, i do think Drabek will be a number 1 starter & i admitt i'm not familiar with Cobbs, but Hill is very questionable now. He's only had 2 good seasons & last year he hit .205 along with hitting .225 with no HR''s so far this year. That package wouldn't get it done IMO.
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    Steelwill, do you always get this angry when someone disagrees with you? I relaize Sharpbettor may not have all the facts, but he didn't say anything that outrageous. Here are some facts though...Toronto was only 19th in profits in MLB 2010, they're 26th in value according to forbes in 2010 & 21st in attendance. I also know that Toronto is always going to be a Leafs town, but the Leafs only play at the same time as the Blue Jays for 2 weeks of the season. Does any of this mean they won't go after Pujols? Maybe not, but i don't see how it makes much sense for them. By the way, i do think Drabek will be a number 1 starter & i admitt i'm not familiar with Cobbs, but Hill is very questionable now. He's only had 2 good seasons & last year he hit .205 along with hitting .225 with no HR''s so far this year. That package wouldn't get it done IMO.
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