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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 2:37 PM ET #276

    Narrowed down to:

    D'backs

    Reds

    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez

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    Narrowed down to:

    D'backs

    Reds

    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 2:44 PM ET #277

    I too had a bad day Thursday  1-5 , with Minnesota my one winner.
    ( not using Sagarin - using the yahoo stat that maglio mentioned)

    Two days  3-7 on my 10 dollar plays - minus 36.38

    I'm using looser criteria than others in this thread. If it's a dog under 150, I am including even tho from the opening lines the team might slip into the negative juice. As others have said, this is definitely a trial period.

    My slate for Friday  it's a big one.- bear in mind I'm not using Sagarin, so fading Verlander is a PLAY for me.
    Cubs
    Wash
    Ariz
    Reds
    San Diego
    San Fran
    Chisox
    Toronto
    K C
    Cleve
    LAA
    Good Luck to all degenerates.
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    I too had a bad day Thursday  1-5 , with Minnesota my one winner.
    ( not using Sagarin - using the yahoo stat that maglio mentioned)

    Two days  3-7 on my 10 dollar plays - minus 36.38

    I'm using looser criteria than others in this thread. If it's a dog under 150, I am including even tho from the opening lines the team might slip into the negative juice. As others have said, this is definitely a trial period.

    My slate for Friday  it's a big one.- bear in mind I'm not using Sagarin, so fading Verlander is a PLAY for me.
    Cubs
    Wash
    Ariz
    Reds
    San Diego
    San Fran
    Chisox
    Toronto
    K C
    Cleve
    LAA
    Good Luck to all degenerates.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 4:03 PM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    Narrowed down to:

    D'backs

    Reds

    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez



    Sanchez not in top 20....not even close....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    Narrowed down to:

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    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez



    Sanchez not in top 20....not even close....
     
    POIZENIV
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:00 PM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by vegastime:

    I apologize if this has already been asked but can someone kindly tell me:

    1) Do you still take the underdog if the underdog is on a 3+ game winning or losing streak?  Does it strictly apply to the favorite or both?

    2) This one kind of seems like an obvious Yes, but do you take the underdog even when it is a top 20 pitcher and the other team's isnt?

    Thanks!

    1) Yes, a dog can have a long winning streak and conversely a fav can have a long losing streak.

    2) Yes, it is rare, but a dog with a top 20 pitcher is a play. If dog and fav are both top 20, play the under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegastime:

    I apologize if this has already been asked but can someone kindly tell me:

    1) Do you still take the underdog if the underdog is on a 3+ game winning or losing streak?  Does it strictly apply to the favorite or both?

    2) This one kind of seems like an obvious Yes, but do you take the underdog even when it is a top 20 pitcher and the other team's isnt?

    Thanks!

    1) Yes, a dog can have a long winning streak and conversely a fav can have a long losing streak.

    2) Yes, it is rare, but a dog with a top 20 pitcher is a play. If dog and fav are both top 20, play the under.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:06 PM ET #280

    Quote Originally Posted by woodsywins1616:

    This system is sucking ass so far this year it is 39-48-4, I have been  following all the games and getting hosed on most that I bet on. Last night it was 0-4.  I can see how it could work but so far not so much i will continue following it though I will only be betting on games that I agree with based on my own research.

     

    Woody, anyone who started this system at the beginning of the year wasn't paying attention. For instance, how did you place wagers the first five games? There were no Sagarin ratings on any pitchers this year so how would you know if they were top 20? And even after the first week, are you going to trust a pitchers numbers based on one start? This is why I make sure that the starting pitcher is in the top portion of the ratings based on innings pitched, and also why I started tracking this on Monday 4/18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsywins1616:

    This system is sucking ass so far this year it is 39-48-4, I have been  following all the games and getting hosed on most that I bet on. Last night it was 0-4.  I can see how it could work but so far not so much i will continue following it though I will only be betting on games that I agree with based on my own research.

     

    Woody, anyone who started this system at the beginning of the year wasn't paying attention. For instance, how did you place wagers the first five games? There were no Sagarin ratings on any pitchers this year so how would you know if they were top 20? And even after the first week, are you going to trust a pitchers numbers based on one start? This is why I make sure that the starting pitcher is in the top portion of the ratings based on innings pitched, and also why I started tracking this on Monday 4/18.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:08 PM ET #281

    PHI/SD Under could be considered a play as well - Clayton Richard in the top 20 and Cole Hamels would be if he had 1 more inning under his belt. 

    That being said O/U set at 6.5 with huge juice on the under.....think thats a pass for me. 
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    PHI/SD Under could be considered a play as well - Clayton Richard in the top 20 and Cole Hamels would be if he had 1 more inning under his belt. 

    That being said O/U set at 6.5 with huge juice on the under.....think thats a pass for me. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:10 PM ET #282

    POIZEN -  what do you think for official plays for tracking purposes tonight?  I think ARZ, CIN, KC, SD if you are going by the "rules"  Will personally be laying off CIN and SD though for reasons stated previously.

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    POIZEN -  what do you think for official plays for tracking purposes tonight?  I think ARZ, CIN, KC, SD if you are going by the "rules"  Will personally be laying off CIN and SD though for reasons stated previously.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:13 PM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by taurus:

    I too had a bad day Thursday  1-5 , with Minnesota my one winner.
    ( not using Sagarin - using the yahoo stat that maglio mentioned)

    Two days  3-7 on my 10 dollar plays - minus 36.38

    I'm using looser criteria than others in this thread. If it's a dog under 150, I am including even tho from the opening lines the team might slip into the negative juice. As others have said, this is definitely a trial period.

    My slate for Friday  it's a big one.- bear in mind I'm not using Sagarin, so fading Verlander is a PLAY for me.
    Cubs
    Wash
    Ariz
    Reds
    San Diego
    San Fran
    Chisox
    Toronto
    K C
    Cleve
    LAA
    Good Luck to all degenerates.

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by taurus:

    I too had a bad day Thursday  1-5 , with Minnesota my one winner.
    ( not using Sagarin - using the yahoo stat that maglio mentioned)

    Two days  3-7 on my 10 dollar plays - minus 36.38

    I'm using looser criteria than others in this thread. If it's a dog under 150, I am including even tho from the opening lines the team might slip into the negative juice. As others have said, this is definitely a trial period.

    My slate for Friday  it's a big one.- bear in mind I'm not using Sagarin, so fading Verlander is a PLAY for me.
    Cubs
    Wash
    Ariz
    Reds
    San Diego
    San Fran
    Chisox
    Toronto
    K C
    Cleve
    LAA
    Good Luck to all degenerates.

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:14 PM ET #284

    CLE vs. Duensing has now moved to plus money and qualifies as a play IMO.
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    CLE vs. Duensing has now moved to plus money and qualifies as a play IMO.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:15 PM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by POIZENIV:

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL



    100% agree -  also don't think should be playing "dogs" at negative numbers - JMO though - GLGLGL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by POIZENIV:

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL



    100% agree -  also don't think should be playing "dogs" at negative numbers - JMO though - GLGLGL!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:32 PM ET #286

    Thanks guys- I will pull the switch to Sagarin.
    I may ask help in getting to the link - but hope I can locate it.
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    Thanks guys- I will pull the switch to Sagarin.
    I may ask help in getting to the link - but hope I can locate it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:42 PM ET #287

    Quote Originally Posted by POIZENIV:

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL



    I think I have it. ?
    Guthrie    20
    Beckett    2
    Chisox    Nobody
    Tomlin    9
    Masterson  11
    Verlander   12
    Coke        13

    Is That Right?
    Thanks

    AS far as number of plays, if Maglio won as much as he says he did at 50 a play, he had to have had a lot of plays to get to that profit range I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POIZENIV:

    Taurus, I think it is VERY important to use the Sagarin ratings for this system. It is what the article is based on, and more importantly, the pitchers are rated based on his NPERA versus a standard ERA. What this is doing, as you can see, is giving you WAY too many picks per day. In the long run, it's going to be hard to win with 8-12 plays per day. Just my opinion for what its worth.

    GL



    I think I have it. ?
    Guthrie    20
    Beckett    2
    Chisox    Nobody
    Tomlin    9
    Masterson  11
    Verlander   12
    Coke        13

    Is That Right?
    Thanks

    AS far as number of plays, if Maglio won as much as he says he did at 50 a play, he had to have had a lot of plays to get to that profit range I would think.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:46 PM ET #288

    Ok, here's what we have for Friday:

    Kansas City      +158        $20

    Cleveland          +107        $20

    Arizona             +114        $20

    Cincinnati         +122        $20

    San Deigo        +121        $20

    GL

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    Ok, here's what we have for Friday:

    Kansas City      +158        $20

    Cleveland          +107        $20

    Arizona             +114        $20

    Cincinnati         +122        $20

    San Deigo        +121        $20

    GL

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #289

    Quote Originally Posted by taurus:

    Thanks guys- I will pull the switch to Sagarin.
    I may ask help in getting to the link - but hope I can locate it.

    Here is the link: https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by taurus:

    Thanks guys- I will pull the switch to Sagarin.
    I may ask help in getting to the link - but hope I can locate it.

    Here is the link: https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:56 PM ET #290

    Quote Originally Posted by odieo:

    POIZEN -  what do you think for official plays for tracking purposes tonight?  I think ARZ, CIN, KC, SD if you are going by the "rules"  Will personally be laying off CIN and SD though for reasons stated previously.

    I actually don't hate Cin or SD. Volquez for Cincy can be overpowering and his best effort came on the road this year, plus that have some decent bats. As far as SD goes, if you can get a top 20 with the dog, you got to love that. Phily hitting .213 vs lefties on the road, SD hitting .288 vs lefties at home. I like SD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odieo:

    POIZEN -  what do you think for official plays for tracking purposes tonight?  I think ARZ, CIN, KC, SD if you are going by the "rules"  Will personally be laying off CIN and SD though for reasons stated previously.

    I actually don't hate Cin or SD. Volquez for Cincy can be overpowering and his best effort came on the road this year, plus that have some decent bats. As far as SD goes, if you can get a top 20 with the dog, you got to love that. Phily hitting .213 vs lefties on the road, SD hitting .288 vs lefties at home. I like SD.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 6:57 PM ET #291

    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    Narrowed down to:

    D'backs

    Reds

    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez

    Bob, you've got the wrong Sanchez. Sanchez with SF is a top 20, not Fla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    Narrowed down to:

    D'backs

    Reds

    Rocks/Marls Un 8.5 -120 Chacin/Sanchez

    Bob, you've got the wrong Sanchez. Sanchez with SF is a top 20, not Fla.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 7:05 PM ET #292

    GL to all!

    Lets get it done.
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    Lets get it done.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 - 7:06 PM ET #293

    Good luck today..........................
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 9:13 AM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by odieo:



    Sanchez not in top 20....not even close....

    You are correct - got teams mixed up.

    However a winner never the less!

    Gotta get lucky once in awhile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by odieo:



    Sanchez not in top 20....not even close....

    You are correct - got teams mixed up.

    However a winner never the less!

    Gotta get lucky once in awhile!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 9:25 AM ET #295

    Late pitching change in St Louis Knocked out the Reds, I would think.
    Anyway it looked like a 0- whatever night.

    Saturday plays
    Dodgers
    Snakes
    Red Sox ( opening line +101 )

    I see no others.
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    Late pitching change in St Louis Knocked out the Reds, I would think.
    Anyway it looked like a 0- whatever night.

    Saturday plays
    Dodgers
    Snakes
    Red Sox ( opening line +101 )

    I see no others.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 10:03 AM ET #296

    Odie's Official Plays 4/22 Results:

    ARZ
    CIN
    KC
    SD
    CLE Rainout!

    Another 0fer - DOH!  All I can say after the past 2 nights is have patience.....things WILL turn around.

    Luckily I have minimized my personal losses due to my analysis on "borderline" plays which I think is integral for this system at this point in the season due to the small sample size of pitching stats.

    As I expected Cole dominated the Padres, Clayton Richard did his thing and my "Unofficial" play of the Under in that game hit without a sweat.

    Depending on the restrictions you put on your play perhaps you had a No Action on CIN/STL since Volquez didn't start - I was off this play from the beginning.

    My analysis of the "borderline" plays netted me a 1-2 night and while not ideal - still hurts A LOT less than 0-4.  I really can't stress more how important it is if you are going to play this system right now to really do some homework on certain plays. 

    I will keep posting my analysis for discussion - POIZEN def. appreciate/respect your insight -  you obv know what ur talking about.

    Lets get back on track this weekend!  Hopefully the rain won't scare our action away!


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    Odie's Official Plays 4/22 Results:

    ARZ
    CIN
    KC
    SD
    CLE Rainout!

    Another 0fer - DOH!  All I can say after the past 2 nights is have patience.....things WILL turn around.

    Luckily I have minimized my personal losses due to my analysis on "borderline" plays which I think is integral for this system at this point in the season due to the small sample size of pitching stats.

    As I expected Cole dominated the Padres, Clayton Richard did his thing and my "Unofficial" play of the Under in that game hit without a sweat.

    Depending on the restrictions you put on your play perhaps you had a No Action on CIN/STL since Volquez didn't start - I was off this play from the beginning.

    My analysis of the "borderline" plays netted me a 1-2 night and while not ideal - still hurts A LOT less than 0-4.  I really can't stress more how important it is if you are going to play this system right now to really do some homework on certain plays. 

    I will keep posting my analysis for discussion - POIZEN def. appreciate/respect your insight -  you obv know what ur talking about.

    Lets get back on track this weekend!  Hopefully the rain won't scare our action away!


     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 10:07 AM ET #297

    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    You are correct - got teams mixed up.

    However a winner never the less!

    Gotta get lucky once in awhile!



    LOL - yea man you got that right - was texting a friend whos a huge phillies fan and I am a huge mets fan so we know the NL East pretty well.  We were commenting on how ridiculous it is that this guy had a near 2nd no no when most of the time he is a downright AWFUL pitcher.  I guess when hes on hes unhittable - just on "on" that much lol.

    Regardless, always nice to get the W after you screw up booking a bet - def. has happened to me a few times....
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    You are correct - got teams mixed up.

    However a winner never the less!

    Gotta get lucky once in awhile!



    LOL - yea man you got that right - was texting a friend whos a huge phillies fan and I am a huge mets fan so we know the NL East pretty well.  We were commenting on how ridiculous it is that this guy had a near 2nd no no when most of the time he is a downright AWFUL pitcher.  I guess when hes on hes unhittable - just on "on" that much lol.

    Regardless, always nice to get the W after you screw up booking a bet - def. has happened to me a few times....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 10:43 AM ET #298

    Odie's Official System Plays for 4/23:

    LAD
    ARZ
    ATL/SF U6.5; Hudson vs Lincecum - both in top 10!

    Waiting on a number to be posted for CLE - but they will more than likely be a GO!

    No real "borderline" plays here - 6.5 with super juice is a tough under to bet, but it worked out last night with SD/PHI so I will be most likely playing this.

    As a Mets fan I feel obligated to mention (considering the fact i've bet against them the past 2 nights and they won, he he) that their lineup seems to be trending up right now and they are sending a relative unknown to the mound today who has pretty good numbers in limited action career wise.....will probably still be playing ARZ here anyway - can't give my Metsies too much credit until they show me they can win 3 straight - also I try to stay extermely impartial when involving one of my teams.  Just really not a very good number IMO, but I know if I lay off the Mets will go down in flames lol.

    As always, play 'em as you like!
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    Odie's Official System Plays for 4/23:

    LAD
    ARZ
    ATL/SF U6.5; Hudson vs Lincecum - both in top 10!

    Waiting on a number to be posted for CLE - but they will more than likely be a GO!

    No real "borderline" plays here - 6.5 with super juice is a tough under to bet, but it worked out last night with SD/PHI so I will be most likely playing this.

    As a Mets fan I feel obligated to mention (considering the fact i've bet against them the past 2 nights and they won, he he) that their lineup seems to be trending up right now and they are sending a relative unknown to the mound today who has pretty good numbers in limited action career wise.....will probably still be playing ARZ here anyway - can't give my Metsies too much credit until they show me they can win 3 straight - also I try to stay extermely impartial when involving one of my teams.  Just really not a very good number IMO, but I know if I lay off the Mets will go down in flames lol.

    As always, play 'em as you like!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 11:03 AM ET #299

    Got Indians @ +105

    Also laying the 115 Hudson/Lince Un 6.5

     Dodgers  W L3 = NP for me

    Also a Mets fan but bet against them in this system. A win-win situation for me if they lose I'm glad a few bucks go into my roll if they win I'm just as happy to see it. Probably a RO today its pouring on LI.

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    Got Indians @ +105

    Also laying the 115 Hudson/Lince Un 6.5

     Dodgers  W L3 = NP for me

    Also a Mets fan but bet against them in this system. A win-win situation for me if they lose I'm glad a few bucks go into my roll if they win I'm just as happy to see it. Probably a RO today its pouring on LI.

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2011 - 11:07 AM ET #300

    BTW missed that SD/Ph LN :(
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