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    randognsac
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:38 AM ET #51

    Andy Reid has never lost the game after a bye since becoming Head Coach of the Eagles.
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    Andy Reid has never lost the game after a bye since becoming Head Coach of the Eagles.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:41 AM ET #52

    I still like the Dolphins, as they fit into the G1 After a Bye look. I don't like the Saints, as they fall under the G2 After a Bye black cloud. I'm keeping the Fins.
    1.33 gets 2.49U
    10/24/12 8:05pm Dallas Mavericks/Oklahoma City Thunder Over 191 
    10/24/12 8:05pm Oklahoma City Thunder +1½  vs Dallas Mavericks 
    10/24/12 8:30pm  NBA Basketball  612 Miami Heat -1½  vs Washington Wizards 
    10/25/12 7:30pm  College Football  105 Clemson -2  vs Wake Forest 
    10/28/12 1:00pm  NFL Football  231 Miami Dolphins +11  vs New York Jets 
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    I still like the Dolphins, as they fit into the G1 After a Bye look. I don't like the Saints, as they fall under the G2 After a Bye black cloud. I'm keeping the Fins.
    1.33 gets 2.49U
    10/24/12 8:05pm Dallas Mavericks/Oklahoma City Thunder Over 191 
    10/24/12 8:05pm Oklahoma City Thunder +1½  vs Dallas Mavericks 
    10/24/12 8:30pm  NBA Basketball  612 Miami Heat -1½  vs Washington Wizards 
    10/25/12 7:30pm  College Football  105 Clemson -2  vs Wake Forest 
    10/28/12 1:00pm  NFL Football  231 Miami Dolphins +11  vs New York Jets 
     
    McShady
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:44 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    Andy Reid has never lost the game after a bye since becoming Head Coach of the Eagles.

    And that is the ONLY reason they opened as a FAVE. Reid loses this week and his job at the end of the year
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    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    Andy Reid has never lost the game after a bye since becoming Head Coach of the Eagles.

    And that is the ONLY reason they opened as a FAVE. Reid loses this week and his job at the end of the year
     
    Air1
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:45 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    If you have any original idea or concept in any sport where a 3 Game Chase can be successful Im interested in hearing. Maybe we can help make it better.

    Some criteria...
    -3 game window involving the same team
    -juice never exceeding -120
    -FG, 1H, 1Q all are an option
    -totals or sides


    Im not looking for anyone to post their Cards, but if a play is posted, please back it up with an Angle or Original Trend. Thx

    hey shady I sent a fiend request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    If you have any original idea or concept in any sport where a 3 Game Chase can be successful Im interested in hearing. Maybe we can help make it better.

    Some criteria...
    -3 game window involving the same team
    -juice never exceeding -120
    -FG, 1H, 1Q all are an option
    -totals or sides


    Im not looking for anyone to post their Cards, but if a play is posted, please back it up with an Angle or Original Trend. Thx

    hey shady I sent a fiend request.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:45 AM ET #55

    I wasn't done, accidentally clicked submit.

    I am not sure if that will hold up this year or not, but it might be the last time to use that trend. Andy will not be the Eagles Coach next year.
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    I wasn't done, accidentally clicked submit.

    I am not sure if that will hold up this year or not, but it might be the last time to use that trend. Andy will not be the Eagles Coach next year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 11:48 AM ET #56

    Since this thread started as a chase the dog, my first chase of the series is home team scores first +155.  Juice on the away is -185.

    Some additional stats:

    Away team has scored first in the first game of the series all 6 times this year. 2011 was 4-3 and 2010 was 3-4.  Looking for a little regression back to the mean.

    Detroit 2012 Season:
    Scored first in 14 of 19 away Verlander starts
    Scored first in 32 of 56 first games in a series
    Scored first in 47 of 86 away games
    Scored first in 14 of 28 away first games in series
    Started away in both playoff series away and scored first
    Scored first last 6 games (4 away)


    SF 2012 season:
    Scored first in 10 of 17 home Zito starts
    Scored first in 29 of 57 first games in a series
    Scored first in 42 of 87 home games
    Scored first in 14 of 29 home first games in series
    Started at home both 2012 series and away scored first
    Scored first last 4 games (2 home)

    All trends are pointing to DET scoring first, but taking SF as the home scores first dog on this one.  

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    Since this thread started as a chase the dog, my first chase of the series is home team scores first +155.  Juice on the away is -185.

    Some additional stats:

    Away team has scored first in the first game of the series all 6 times this year. 2011 was 4-3 and 2010 was 3-4.  Looking for a little regression back to the mean.

    Detroit 2012 Season:
    Scored first in 14 of 19 away Verlander starts
    Scored first in 32 of 56 first games in a series
    Scored first in 47 of 86 away games
    Scored first in 14 of 28 away first games in series
    Started away in both playoff series away and scored first
    Scored first last 6 games (4 away)


    SF 2012 season:
    Scored first in 10 of 17 home Zito starts
    Scored first in 29 of 57 first games in a series
    Scored first in 42 of 87 home games
    Scored first in 14 of 29 home first games in series
    Started at home both 2012 series and away scored first
    Scored first last 4 games (2 home)

    All trends are pointing to DET scoring first, but taking SF as the home scores first dog on this one.  

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:29 PM ET #57

    [Quote: Originally Posted by mjnorman59] Since this thread started as a chase the dog, my first chase of the series is home team scores first +155.  Juice on the away is -185.

    Some additional stats:

    Away team has scored first in the first game of the series all 6 times this year. 2011 was 4-3 and 2010 was 3-4.  Looking for a little regression back to the mean.

    Detroit 2012 Season:
    Scored first in 14 of 19 away Verlander starts
    Scored first in 32 of 56 first games in a series
    Scored first in 47 of 86 away games
    Scored first in 14 of 28 away first games in series
    Started away in both playoff series away and scored first
    Scored first last 6 games (4 away)


    SF 2012 season:
    Scored first in 10 of 17 home Zito starts
    Scored first in 29 of 57 first games in a series
    Scored first in 42 of 87 home games
    Scored first in 14 of 29 home first games in series
    Started at home both 2012 series and away scored first
    Scored first last 4 games (2 home)

    All trends are pointing to DET scoring first, but taking SF as the home scores first dog on this one.  

    BOL

    Hi all,

    I don't post very often but I have been following these posts for awhile and have done some backchecking through McShady's posts and I have never seen the "chase" fully explained. Is there a link to it?

    It seems like you choose a prop/total/side (i.e. team scores first etc.) preferably at +money at the beginning of a series. You then bet it until it wins. Is there a doubling of each bet after a loss to guarantee profit or what is the strategy?

    Sorry if this comes across as elementary, I just am fascinated by this so I wanted to ask.

    Thanks in advance.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by mjnorman59] Since this thread started as a chase the dog, my first chase of the series is home team scores first +155.  Juice on the away is -185.

    Some additional stats:

    Away team has scored first in the first game of the series all 6 times this year. 2011 was 4-3 and 2010 was 3-4.  Looking for a little regression back to the mean.

    Detroit 2012 Season:
    Scored first in 14 of 19 away Verlander starts
    Scored first in 32 of 56 first games in a series
    Scored first in 47 of 86 away games
    Scored first in 14 of 28 away first games in series
    Started away in both playoff series away and scored first
    Scored first last 6 games (4 away)


    SF 2012 season:
    Scored first in 10 of 17 home Zito starts
    Scored first in 29 of 57 first games in a series
    Scored first in 42 of 87 home games
    Scored first in 14 of 29 home first games in series
    Started at home both 2012 series and away scored first
    Scored first last 4 games (2 home)

    All trends are pointing to DET scoring first, but taking SF as the home scores first dog on this one.  

    BOL

    Hi all,

    I don't post very often but I have been following these posts for awhile and have done some backchecking through McShady's posts and I have never seen the "chase" fully explained. Is there a link to it?

    It seems like you choose a prop/total/side (i.e. team scores first etc.) preferably at +money at the beginning of a series. You then bet it until it wins. Is there a doubling of each bet after a loss to guarantee profit or what is the strategy?

    Sorry if this comes across as elementary, I just am fascinated by this so I wanted to ask.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:32 PM ET #58

    Yep, chase until you win.

    100 Loss

    200 Loss

    400 Win

    100 Total Win after Losses
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    Yep, chase until you win.

    100 Loss

    200 Loss

    400 Win

    100 Total Win after Losses
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:38 PM ET #59

    Any stats on WS home team dog 1st game results?

    Proline is offering SF as a +120-125 dog, last time I saw Verly throw against NL was the all-star game, he didn’t do too well.

    Semper mentioned about giants playing good ball in front of Zito all year and the vet doesn't get rattled in these situations. His last 3 starts the Giants won and total went over. Wondering what Semper's gut is telling him on this game? My gut tells me all the pressure is on Detroit to win this game, SF makes a good move throwing Zito in to face Verly, if SF can win this one that is huge momentum boost for SF and vice versa for Detroit if they lose.

    But I am not a baseball guy so what do I know lol.

     

    Hey Nads, how do NFL teams having played 3 straight games at home (SF) fare going on road as a fave? They also did not cover ATS last 2 home games but they get 11 days off since last game was Thursday against SEA and ARIZ up on Monday night.

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    Any stats on WS home team dog 1st game results?

    Proline is offering SF as a +120-125 dog, last time I saw Verly throw against NL was the all-star game, he didn’t do too well.

    Semper mentioned about giants playing good ball in front of Zito all year and the vet doesn't get rattled in these situations. His last 3 starts the Giants won and total went over. Wondering what Semper's gut is telling him on this game? My gut tells me all the pressure is on Detroit to win this game, SF makes a good move throwing Zito in to face Verly, if SF can win this one that is huge momentum boost for SF and vice versa for Detroit if they lose.

    But I am not a baseball guy so what do I know lol.

     

    Hey Nads, how do NFL teams having played 3 straight games at home (SF) fare going on road as a fave? They also did not cover ATS last 2 home games but they get 11 days off since last game was Thursday against SEA and ARIZ up on Monday night.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:45 PM ET #60

    1. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 119 Manchester City (UCL)/Ajax (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 122 Real Madrid (UCL)/Borussia Dortmund (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2TP +185


    some CL action
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    1. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 119 Manchester City (UCL)/Ajax (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 122 Real Madrid (UCL)/Borussia Dortmund (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2TP +185


    some CL action
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:46 PM ET #61

    shit! screwed the page. sorry
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    shit! screwed the page. sorry
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #62

    NFl

    Minny -6.5 at hone

    STL +7.5 at home

    Carolina +8.5 on road second game after a bye they did not cover against Crybabies (Chicago 2nd game off a bye week game, proline set number was 5.5 so Bears covered set line after bye week lol that hook is so important)

    SF -6.5 on road

    NCAAFB

    Clemson -12.5 on road

    Cinncy +4.5 on road

     

    CFL

    Edmonton and Winnipeg as +4.5 dogs on road

     

    Just passing some info along play what you want.

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    NFl

    Minny -6.5 at hone

    STL +7.5 at home

    Carolina +8.5 on road second game after a bye they did not cover against Crybabies (Chicago 2nd game off a bye week game, proline set number was 5.5 so Bears covered set line after bye week lol that hook is so important)

    SF -6.5 on road

    NCAAFB

    Clemson -12.5 on road

    Cinncy +4.5 on road

     

    CFL

    Edmonton and Winnipeg as +4.5 dogs on road

     

    Just passing some info along play what you want.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    shit! screwed the page. sorry

    Nope, looks okay to me.

    As many winners as you throw up, you are welcome to screw up EVERY page in this thread. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    shit! screwed the page. sorry

    Nope, looks okay to me.

    As many winners as you throw up, you are welcome to screw up EVERY page in this thread. lol
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newfie_Bullet:

    NFl

    Minny -6.5 at hone

    STL +7.5 at home

    Carolina +8.5 on road second game after a bye they did not cover against Crybabies (Chicago 2nd game off a bye week game, proline set number was 5.5 so Bears covered set line after bye week lol that hook is so important)

    SF -6.5 on road

    NCAAFB

    Clemson -12.5 on road

    Cinncy +4.5 on road

     

    CFL

    Edmonton and Winnipeg as +4.5 dogs on road

     

    Just passing some info along play what you want.


    St.Louis game is in London
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newfie_Bullet:

    NFl

    Minny -6.5 at hone

    STL +7.5 at home

    Carolina +8.5 on road second game after a bye they did not cover against Crybabies (Chicago 2nd game off a bye week game, proline set number was 5.5 so Bears covered set line after bye week lol that hook is so important)

    SF -6.5 on road

    NCAAFB

    Clemson -12.5 on road

    Cinncy +4.5 on road

     

    CFL

    Edmonton and Winnipeg as +4.5 dogs on road

     

    Just passing some info along play what you want.


    St.Louis game is in London
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:25 PM ET #65

    Thanks kinggeorge27 for the clarification. Great thread and philosphy. Thanks for all of the analysis and information guys!
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    Thanks kinggeorge27 for the clarification. Great thread and philosphy. Thanks for all of the analysis and information guys!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:26 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    1. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 119 Manchester City (UCL)/Ajax (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 122 Real Madrid (UCL)/Borussia Dortmund (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2TP +185


    some CL action

    Looks solid. I am looking into the games right now. I am leaning for a City victory against Ajax. They just are not good enough to play teams like City and Real Madrid. They more or less always disappoint against teams like this. 

    Odds 1.943 on City, that is in my opinion very well paid. I might w8 and livebet the game, aften i see the first 10-15 min. If Ajax have anything to give it will be shown in the first part of the game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    1. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 119 Manchester City (UCL)/Ajax (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2. 10/24/2012 2:45 PM European Cup Soccer 122 Real Madrid (UCL)/Borussia Dortmund (UCL)* Over 2½ -145 
    2TP +185


    some CL action

    Looks solid. I am looking into the games right now. I am leaning for a City victory against Ajax. They just are not good enough to play teams like City and Real Madrid. They more or less always disappoint against teams like this. 

    Odds 1.943 on City, that is in my opinion very well paid. I might w8 and livebet the game, aften i see the first 10-15 min. If Ajax have anything to give it will be shown in the first part of the game. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:37 PM ET #67

    it just changed to PK, might wait to right before kick off with the bet. 

    Expected lineup:
    Ajax (4-1-2-3): Vermeer; Van Rihjn, Alderweireld, Moisander, Blind; Poulsen; Eriksen, De Jong; Boerrigter, Babel, Sana.

    Man City (4-3-2-1): Hart; Zabaleta, Richards, Lescott, Kolarov; Barry, Touré, Nasri; Agüero, Tevez; Džeko.
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    it just changed to PK, might wait to right before kick off with the bet. 

    Expected lineup:
    Ajax (4-1-2-3): Vermeer; Van Rihjn, Alderweireld, Moisander, Blind; Poulsen; Eriksen, De Jong; Boerrigter, Babel, Sana.

    Man City (4-3-2-1): Hart; Zabaleta, Richards, Lescott, Kolarov; Barry, Touré, Nasri; Agüero, Tevez; Džeko.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:49 PM ET #68

    I got SF +155 on series yesterday and I don't see it any higher today, so that was lucky for me. If they lose game 1, I will come back for a play on the larger odds.

    I just like the way they are playing right now. Det didn't have much of a challenge vs Yanks and SF fought hard to beat ST Louis.


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    I got SF +155 on series yesterday and I don't see it any higher today, so that was lucky for me. If they lose game 1, I will come back for a play on the larger odds.

    I just like the way they are playing right now. Det didn't have much of a challenge vs Yanks and SF fought hard to beat ST Louis.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:50 PM ET #69

    Game one I like SF RL and Under
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    Game one I like SF RL and Under
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:51 PM ET #70

    looks good. im on arsenal vs schalke over 2 1/2 tho.
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    looks good. im on arsenal vs schalke over 2 1/2 tho.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #71

    I've already locked in Carolina +8 and NYG ML -130. With Sean Lee out for the cryboys, the line is going to keep going up. If you like it, get it NOW!

    Angle out. GL everyone!
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    I've already locked in Carolina +8 and NYG ML -130. With Sean Lee out for the cryboys, the line is going to keep going up. If you like it, get it NOW!

    Angle out. GL everyone!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 2:40 PM ET #72

    A little statistics for the geeks. Real Madrid have only won 1 of 23 attempts vs german teams in germany. I am not touching that match, but solid statistics for 1x
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    A little statistics for the geeks. Real Madrid have only won 1 of 23 attempts vs german teams in germany. I am not touching that match, but solid statistics for 1x
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 2:55 PM ET #73

    Havent made any bets yet, Ajax is starting strong as expected, so looking for at potential live bet. Will post if i make any bets. 

    BOL with CL tonight
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    Havent made any bets yet, Ajax is starting strong as expected, so looking for at potential live bet. Will post if i make any bets. 

    BOL with CL tonight
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 3:09 PM ET #74

    Some more prop stats for those interested.

    Looked back and Game 1 of WS last 10 years:

    Home scored first 6 / 10
    Score first wins 8 / 10
    Score in first inning 7 / 10 - thought this would be lower as likely best pitchers are starting.

    BOL
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    Some more prop stats for those interested.

    Looked back and Game 1 of WS last 10 years:

    Home scored first 6 / 10
    Score first wins 8 / 10
    Score in first inning 7 / 10 - thought this would be lower as likely best pitchers are starting.

    BOL
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by Newfie_Bullet:

    Hey Nads, how do NFL teams having played 3 straight games at home (SF) fare going on road as a fave? They also did not cover ATS last 2 home games but they get 11 days off since last game was Thursday against SEA and ARIZ up on Monday night.

    Since 2005
    Team Favored on Road after 3 straight home games:
    p:H and pp:H and ppp:H and AF and season>2005
    5-13 ATS (average line -5.5)
    9-9 O/U

    Team Favored on Road after 3 straight home games, and not covering the last 2
    p:H and p:ATSL and pp:H and pp:ATSL and ppp:H and AF and season>2005
    3-3 ATS (average line -5.2)
    2-4 O/U
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    Hey Nads, how do NFL teams having played 3 straight games at home (SF) fare going on road as a fave? They also did not cover ATS last 2 home games but they get 11 days off since last game was Thursday against SEA and ARIZ up on Monday night.

    Since 2005
    Team Favored on Road after 3 straight home games:
    p:H and pp:H and ppp:H and AF and season>2005
    5-13 ATS (average line -5.5)
    9-9 O/U

    Team Favored on Road after 3 straight home games, and not covering the last 2
    p:H and p:ATSL and pp:H and pp:ATSL and ppp:H and AF and season>2005
    3-3 ATS (average line -5.2)
    2-4 O/U
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