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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 5:45 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    Isn't Newfie on Arkansas St. +4.5?

     

    I don't want to speak for him, but only tracked the 4.5 SNP for NFL Only.  Not sure how it has fared in College, I'm sure not well otherwise it would have been tracked on SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    Isn't Newfie on Arkansas St. +4.5?

     

    I don't want to speak for him, but only tracked the 4.5 SNP for NFL Only.  Not sure how it has fared in College, I'm sure not well otherwise it would have been tracked on SS.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 5:52 PM ET #27

    The proline has the total for tonights CFB game at 56.5, it's up to 64 now at some places, something fishy here.
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    The proline has the total for tonights CFB game at 56.5, it's up to 64 now at some places, something fishy here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:14 PM ET #28

    What's the play boys?!?!? over looks good
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    What's the play boys?!?!? over looks good
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:16 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Not sure if you guys generally try to look at data like this for the current year, or over a number of years.  Here is what I came up with quickly, using https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H
    11-13-1 ATS
    16-9 O/U
    Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A
    11-14 ATS
    15-10 O/U

    Wasn't sure what you were looking for on the 3rd option.
    .....Try adding vs a non-division opponent, i believe u will see some OVERWHELMING results. Thats where teams go OVER against non-dIv teams before a thursday game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Not sure if you guys generally try to look at data like this for the current year, or over a number of years.  Here is what I came up with quickly, using https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H
    11-13-1 ATS
    16-9 O/U
    Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A
    11-14 ATS
    15-10 O/U

    Wasn't sure what you were looking for on the 3rd option.
    .....Try adding vs a non-division opponent, i believe u will see some OVERWHELMING results. Thats where teams go OVER against non-dIv teams before a thursday game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:16 PM ET #30

    How about ULLA ML / U63.5 +200?
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    How about ULLA ML / U63.5 +200?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:28 PM ET #31

    @McShady where can I find your spreadsheet for football at??? 
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    @McShady where can I find your spreadsheet for football at??? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:45 PM ET #32

    I'm to afraid to make waves so I am gonna tail what was said on page 13 of the previous thread, Arkansas St. +4.5. I think the injuries on ULL on offense will be the difference.
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    I'm to afraid to make waves so I am gonna tail what was said on page 13 of the previous thread, Arkansas St. +4.5. I think the injuries on ULL on offense will be the difference.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:02 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    I'm to afraid to make waves so I am gonna tail what was said on page 13 of the previous thread, Arkansas St. +4.5. I think the injuries on ULL on offense will be the difference.

    Isn't ULL getting Harris back for tonight game?  I'm on ULL -3.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by randognsac:

    I'm to afraid to make waves so I am gonna tail what was said on page 13 of the previous thread, Arkansas St. +4.5. I think the injuries on ULL on offense will be the difference.

    Isn't ULL getting Harris back for tonight game?  I'm on ULL -3.   

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:10 PM ET #34

    I'm tailing Newfie, or at least what he said in the previous thread his play was. More of a degenerate bet on a dog.
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    I'm tailing Newfie, or at least what he said in the previous thread his play was. More of a degenerate bet on a dog.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:10 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    .....Try adding vs a non-division opponent, i believe u will see some OVERWHELMING results. Thats where teams go OVER against non-dIv teams before a thursday game.

    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    .....Try adding vs a non-division opponent, i believe u will see some OVERWHELMING results. Thats where teams go OVER against non-dIv teams before a thursday game.

    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:13 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    Who's everyone pick for the WS. If the Tigers were against the Cards. I would take the Tigers. But against the Giants, gotta take the Giants. Just pondering when I should take the Series Bet on them...

    I like the Giants too, but I'm waiting till after game 1 to take them and will only take them for the series if they lose to verlander. We'll get much better + $ if we wait after the first game.

    I know Zito has been better this year, but I think he goes down game 1.

    Under 62.5 for me in football tonight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McShady:

    Who's everyone pick for the WS. If the Tigers were against the Cards. I would take the Tigers. But against the Giants, gotta take the Giants. Just pondering when I should take the Series Bet on them...

    I like the Giants too, but I'm waiting till after game 1 to take them and will only take them for the series if they lose to verlander. We'll get much better + $ if we wait after the first game.

    I know Zito has been better this year, but I think he goes down game 1.

    Under 62.5 for me in football tonight.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:13 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U

    For the HOME on Thursday
    The 3 UNDERS have occurred this year (last 3 plays)

    For the AWAY on Thursday
    2 of the UNDERS have occured this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U

    For the HOME on Thursday
    The 3 UNDERS have occurred this year (last 3 plays)

    For the AWAY on Thursday
    2 of the UNDERS have occured this year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 8:15 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U
    ....Here is more info, Home teams on thursday nites after both teams played the previous Sunday are 55-40-2 ATS Since 1989. When the home team is also favored, the favorite is 37-18-2 ATS.Thursday nite home favorites are successful 67.3 % of the time.Aso, the UNDER is 56-41. In games where the home team is listed as the favorite, the trend improves to a ( 67% UNDER 38-19  ) Adding, the league is 43-18-1 O/U Since 2007 off a thursday nite game in which they threw fewer than 2 interceptions & are not 4 plus games below 500...A nice 22-6 O/U Last 2 yrs. have found that some teams that throw alot of Interceptions get concervative the next week, so we don't want to take the OVER in that spot and avoid teams that might have given up on the season after a thursday nite appearance. NOTE: These stats are all before the start of the 2012 NFL season. Hope this helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Nads:


    Great catch Rleith35

    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009:
    Non Divisional Game before team plays at HOME on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:H and division!=o:division
    4-10 ATS
    11-3 O/U
    Non Divisional Game before team plays on ROAD on Thursday
    n:day=Thursday and season>2009 and n:A and division!=o:division
    6-10 ATS
    11-5 O/U
    ....Here is more info, Home teams on thursday nites after both teams played the previous Sunday are 55-40-2 ATS Since 1989. When the home team is also favored, the favorite is 37-18-2 ATS.Thursday nite home favorites are successful 67.3 % of the time.Aso, the UNDER is 56-41. In games where the home team is listed as the favorite, the trend improves to a ( 67% UNDER 38-19  ) Adding, the league is 43-18-1 O/U Since 2007 off a thursday nite game in which they threw fewer than 2 interceptions & are not 4 plus games below 500...A nice 22-6 O/U Last 2 yrs. have found that some teams that throw alot of Interceptions get concervative the next week, so we don't want to take the OVER in that spot and avoid teams that might have given up on the season after a thursday nite appearance. NOTE: These stats are all before the start of the 2012 NFL season. Hope this helps!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 8:50 PM ET #39

    [Quote: Originally Posted by randognsac] I'm tailing Newfie, or at least what he said in the previous thread his play was. More of a degenerate bet on a dog.
    [/Quote

     

    Nicely done, looks like the 4.5 DOGS can also be tracked for college for the time being.  Cincy is next on Friday

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by randognsac] I'm tailing Newfie, or at least what he said in the previous thread his play was. More of a degenerate bet on a dog.
    [/Quote

     

    Nicely done, looks like the 4.5 DOGS can also be tracked for college for the time being.  Cincy is next on Friday

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 9:11 PM ET #40

    Newfie said the algorithm doesn't care whether it's Pro or College. 
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 9:28 PM ET #41

    Idk about the 4.5 for college, but they were tracking the 6.5 for college and it was struggling so they just made it NFL only. 
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    Idk about the 4.5 for college, but they were tracking the 6.5 for college and it was struggling so they just made it NFL only. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 9:42 PM ET #42

    Nads and RL, good stuff.

    Can your program find the results for this one: When a team wins and covers, two weeks in a row. You tease them to win the next week. Do they?

    Thanks

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    Nads and RL, good stuff.

    Can your program find the results for this one: When a team wins and covers, two weeks in a row. You tease them to win the next week. Do they?

    Thanks

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 10:03 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Moth61:

    Nads and RL, good stuff.

    Can your program find the results for this one: When a team wins and covers, two weeks in a row. You tease them to win the next week. Do they?

    Thanks


    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009
    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games:
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009
    90-96-2 ATS
    135-50-3 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    147-39-2 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games are now a DOG
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and D
    34-34-2 ATS
    52-16-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    55-15 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are now the Favorite
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and F
    54-60 ATS
    80-33-1 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    89-23-2 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Next 2 were the highest Win % on the 6 Point Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Home Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and HD
    10-9-2 ATS
    16-5 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    16-5 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Away Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and AD
    24-25 ATS
    36-11-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    39-10 ATS 10 PT Teaser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth61:

    Nads and RL, good stuff.

    Can your program find the results for this one: When a team wins and covers, two weeks in a row. You tease them to win the next week. Do they?

    Thanks


    Using: https://killersports.com/nfl.py/query?&sid=guest

    Since 2009
    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games:
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009
    90-96-2 ATS
    135-50-3 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    147-39-2 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games are now a DOG
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and D
    34-34-2 ATS
    52-16-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    55-15 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are now the Favorite
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and F
    54-60 ATS
    80-33-1 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    89-23-2 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Next 2 were the highest Win % on the 6 Point Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Home Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and HD
    10-9-2 ATS
    16-5 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    16-5 ATS 10 PT Teaser

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Away Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and AD
    24-25 ATS
    36-11-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    39-10 ATS 10 PT Teaser
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 10:08 PM ET #44

    GREAT STUFF 

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    GREAT STUFF 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 11:54 PM ET #45

    Frickin' AWESOME!

    What if you had to win 2 in a row as a favorite? This will narrow down the field...

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    Frickin' AWESOME!

    What if you had to win 2 in a row as a favorite? This will narrow down the field...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:03 AM ET #46

    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Away Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and AD
    24-25 ATS
    36-11-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    39-10 ATS 10 PT Teaser
     
    Saints and Dolphins fit....
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    Teams that Won (SU and ATS) their previous 2 games and are a Away Dog
    p:ATSW and p:W and pp:ATSW and pp:W and season>2009 and AD
    24-25 ATS
    36-11-2 ATS 6 PT Teaser
    39-10 ATS 10 PT Teaser
     
    Saints and Dolphins fit....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:59 AM ET #47

    I take that back, dolphins won their last two, but did not cover their last one

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    I take that back, dolphins won their last two, but did not cover their last one

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 9:35 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Moth61:

    Frickin' AWESOME!

    What if you had to win 2 in a row as a favorite? This will narrow down the field...


    You can add p:F and pp:F to get that result.  Home Favorite would be HF, home dog HD, away favorite AF, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth61:

    Frickin' AWESOME!

    What if you had to win 2 in a row as a favorite? This will narrow down the field...


    You can add p:F and pp:F to get that result.  Home Favorite would be HF, home dog HD, away favorite AF, etc, etc.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 10:39 AM ET #49

    the only problem with this  is that you need TWO teams that qualfy for the teaser...
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    the only problem with this  is that you need TWO teams that qualfy for the teaser...
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth61:

    the only problem with this  is that you need TWO teams that qualfy for the teaser...

    That's not a problem if your place takes open teasers. 5D takes open teasers with no time limit.
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    the only problem with this  is that you need TWO teams that qualfy for the teaser...

    That's not a problem if your place takes open teasers. 5D takes open teasers with no time limit.
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