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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 4:38 PM ET #1351

    Two dogs today for $77 each:

    Atlanta Braves +144 
    vs Washington Nationals

    and 

    Texas Rangers +134 
    vs Seattle Mariners

    SYSTEM OF THE DAY: Fade plus .600 Favorites at the end of regular season: 218-185 -93.44 units SU +15.5% roi fade. Very simple, very powerful.

    SYSTEM OF MONTH: ???????Since 2012, Dogs facing teams (likely clinched) with over 33 more wins than losses, in regular season from 9/1's on, are 57-49 +39.06 units, +36.8% roi SU!
    Profited up to +40 units - slight gain so far.
    Active on the Angels, White Sox and Phillies if you want to consider those as well!

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    Two dogs today for $77 each:

    Atlanta Braves +144 
    vs Washington Nationals

    and 

    Texas Rangers +134 
    vs Seattle Mariners

    SYSTEM OF THE DAY: Fade plus .600 Favorites at the end of regular season: 218-185 -93.44 units SU +15.5% roi fade. Very simple, very powerful.

    SYSTEM OF MONTH: ???????Since 2012, Dogs facing teams (likely clinched) with over 33 more wins than losses, in regular season from 9/1's on, are 57-49 +39.06 units, +36.8% roi SU!
    Profited up to +40 units - slight gain so far.
    Active on the Angels, White Sox and Phillies if you want to consider those as well!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 6:41 PM ET #1352

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:20 PM ET #1353

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

     

    Two dogs today for $77 each:

    Atlanta Braves +144  LOST
    vs Washington Nationals

    and 

    Texas Rangers +134  WINNER!
    vs Seattle Mariners

    Slight gainer 1-1 on the dogs...

    Current Bankroll: $12,896.58
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    For Today:

    $89 to win $104.13
    San Diego Padres +117 
    vs Colorado Rockies
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

     

    Two dogs today for $77 each:

    Atlanta Braves +144  LOST
    vs Washington Nationals

    and 

    Texas Rangers +134  WINNER!
    vs Seattle Mariners

    Slight gainer 1-1 on the dogs...

    Current Bankroll: $12,896.58
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    For Today:

    $89 to win $104.13
    San Diego Padres +117 
    vs Colorado Rockies
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:30 PM ET #1354

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Up until the last several years (after they added the extra wild card spot) Septembers were my best month just blindly taking big dogs against clinched over valued favs. The rules changed though. September isn't dogs on the blind month anymore. Definitely more thinking required now.



    It seems telling what happened if you understood the premise of betting dogs late season to begin with: you bet against overvalued, don't need the win favorites. Things are different now, more often, team do need a win...MLB wanted to make late regular season more interesting. so no more freebies.
    Herb you are most likely also talking about home field - but if yes or no for some who may not know Home field in the playoffs and the WorldSeries is it determined by winning record and not the all star game. So CLE, HOU etc... are all playing for home field. 

    I think this september has that extra layer in it as well.

    On another note I never got married and don't regret it. 




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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Up until the last several years (after they added the extra wild card spot) Septembers were my best month just blindly taking big dogs against clinched over valued favs. The rules changed though. September isn't dogs on the blind month anymore. Definitely more thinking required now.



    It seems telling what happened if you understood the premise of betting dogs late season to begin with: you bet against overvalued, don't need the win favorites. Things are different now, more often, team do need a win...MLB wanted to make late regular season more interesting. so no more freebies.
    Herb you are most likely also talking about home field - but if yes or no for some who may not know Home field in the playoffs and the WorldSeries is it determined by winning record and not the all star game. So CLE, HOU etc... are all playing for home field. 

    I think this september has that extra layer in it as well.

    On another note I never got married and don't regret it. 




     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 1:10 PM ET #1355

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    $89 to win $104.13
    San Diego Padres +117 
    vs Colorado Rockies
    WINNER!

    The Padres were barkin'

    Current Bankroll: $13,000.71
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    I think we're still just a bit below a previous high by like $200 or $300, but getting out of my personal funk here. Admittedly, my one screw up was bein ill and not posting these two +200 ish doggies which I feel very bad about. I hope you guys are saving all of these systems I'm sharing and doing a little of your own betting or trying to learn to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    $89 to win $104.13
    San Diego Padres +117 
    vs Colorado Rockies
    WINNER!

    The Padres were barkin'

    Current Bankroll: $13,000.71
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    I think we're still just a bit below a previous high by like $200 or $300, but getting out of my personal funk here. Admittedly, my one screw up was bein ill and not posting these two +200 ish doggies which I feel very bad about. I hope you guys are saving all of these systems I'm sharing and doing a little of your own betting or trying to learn to.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 1:14 PM ET #1356

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 1:20 PM ET #1357

    I have!  Since you last spoke about it a few weeks back, I've been tinkering with the SDQL and I've found some very interesting trends.  It's clear to me now how this becomes more of a strategical investment as oppose to just gambling.  Appreciate you for all the insights and I look forward to your posts daily!  Keep it up Herb!!!
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    I have!  Since you last spoke about it a few weeks back, I've been tinkering with the SDQL and I've found some very interesting trends.  It's clear to me now how this becomes more of a strategical investment as oppose to just gambling.  Appreciate you for all the insights and I look forward to your posts daily!  Keep it up Herb!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:18 PM ET #1358

    For today:

    Chicago White Sox +117 
    vs Kansas City Royals
    $118 to win $138.06

    KEY SYSTEM OF THE DAY: A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is 758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. Active of the Padres and White Sox



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    For today:

    Chicago White Sox +117 
    vs Kansas City Royals
    $118 to win $138.06

    KEY SYSTEM OF THE DAY: A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is 758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. Active of the Padres and White Sox



     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:23 PM ET #1359

    Quote Originally Posted by bojangles804:

    I have!  Since you last spoke about it a few weeks back, I've been tinkering with the SDQL and I've found some very interesting trends.  It's clear to me now how this becomes more of a strategical investment as oppose to just gambling.  Appreciate you for all the insights and I look forward to your posts daily!  Keep it up Herb!!!

    Yes! Good for you. I'm one of the sellers on the SDQL (Killersports) Trend Mart. Helped start that thing. Mainly because I appreciate what Joe Meyer over there did so much: It is a free to the public service.

    Please consider supporting him by storing the trends I share (if you know how to query them) for $2

    Yes, you can just bookmark them for free, but he does have to pay expensive server costs. :)

    But bottom line: After running this thread for years now and sharing my valuable trends, it makes me happy to see people become their own independent gamblers gone investors. Building community is a good thing....so please share trends you guys find as well. Help others and you truly help yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bojangles804:

    I have!  Since you last spoke about it a few weeks back, I've been tinkering with the SDQL and I've found some very interesting trends.  It's clear to me now how this becomes more of a strategical investment as oppose to just gambling.  Appreciate you for all the insights and I look forward to your posts daily!  Keep it up Herb!!!

    Yes! Good for you. I'm one of the sellers on the SDQL (Killersports) Trend Mart. Helped start that thing. Mainly because I appreciate what Joe Meyer over there did so much: It is a free to the public service.

    Please consider supporting him by storing the trends I share (if you know how to query them) for $2

    Yes, you can just bookmark them for free, but he does have to pay expensive server costs. :)

    But bottom line: After running this thread for years now and sharing my valuable trends, it makes me happy to see people become their own independent gamblers gone investors. Building community is a good thing....so please share trends you guys find as well. Help others and you truly help yourself!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:35 PM ET #1360

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Yes! Good for you. I'm one of the sellers on the SDQL (Killersports) Trend Mart. Helped start that thing. Mainly because I appreciate what Joe Meyer over there did so much: It is a free to the public service.

    Please consider supporting him by storing the trends I share (if you know how to query them) for $2

    Yes, you can just bookmark them for free, but he does have to pay expensive server costs. :)

    But bottom line: After running this thread for years now and sharing my valuable trends, it makes me happy to see people become their own independent gamblers gone investors. Building community is a good thing....so please share trends you guys find as well. Help others and you truly help yourself!


    Great post, Herb. After all, we are a community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Yes! Good for you. I'm one of the sellers on the SDQL (Killersports) Trend Mart. Helped start that thing. Mainly because I appreciate what Joe Meyer over there did so much: It is a free to the public service.

    Please consider supporting him by storing the trends I share (if you know how to query them) for $2

    Yes, you can just bookmark them for free, but he does have to pay expensive server costs. :)

    But bottom line: After running this thread for years now and sharing my valuable trends, it makes me happy to see people become their own independent gamblers gone investors. Building community is a good thing....so please share trends you guys find as well. Help others and you truly help yourself!


    Great post, Herb. After all, we are a community.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2017 - 11:32 AM ET #1361

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    For today:

    Chicago White Sox +117 
    vs Kansas City Royals
    $118 to win $138.06

    WINNER!

    PCG newsletter stuff went 5-0 yesterday. 3-0 in CFL and 2-0 on the MLB dogs (also too the Mariners. Awesome run in Football over on that side of the fence :P 

    Current Bankroll: $13,138.77
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    Will follow up if I have a play. Looking at the games...
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    For today:

    Chicago White Sox +117 
    vs Kansas City Royals
    $118 to win $138.06

    WINNER!

    PCG newsletter stuff went 5-0 yesterday. 3-0 in CFL and 2-0 on the MLB dogs (also too the Mariners. Awesome run in Football over on that side of the fence :P 

    Current Bankroll: $13,138.77
    from $4000 (+221.76 units)

    Will follow up if I have a play. Looking at the games...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2017 - 12:10 PM ET #1362

    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithThem:


    Great post, Herb. After all, we are a community.

    I'm surprised how many people here at covers know, without me ever having said, what SDQL is. I'll have to share this thread with Joe.

    SDQL is completely free (sportsdatabase.com) to the public.

    I think it would be cool if we share the actual SDQL code for these systems...maybe another SDQL system sharing thread is in order, but I'm not sure if the forum mods are okay with that. Anyone know?

    Example: The "SDQL" for yesterday's system ('A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. Active of the Padres and White Sox') is:

    D and p:D and p:W and p:runs <= 3

    Anyone interested in starting a thread like that? (SDQL System sharing?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithThem:


    Great post, Herb. After all, we are a community.

    I'm surprised how many people here at covers know, without me ever having said, what SDQL is. I'll have to share this thread with Joe.

    SDQL is completely free (sportsdatabase.com) to the public.

    I think it would be cool if we share the actual SDQL code for these systems...maybe another SDQL system sharing thread is in order, but I'm not sure if the forum mods are okay with that. Anyone know?

    Example: The "SDQL" for yesterday's system ('A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. Active of the Padres and White Sox') is:

    D and p:D and p:W and p:runs <= 3

    Anyone interested in starting a thread like that? (SDQL System sharing?)


     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2017 - 12:38 PM ET #1363

    That's absolutely a great idea Herb! More knowledge, more power! Sharing is caring IMO. 

    I like the SDQL to that Dog off win but what's the premise behind it? I think the biggest addition to the SDQL query is sharing the thoughts/premise behind why it works long term. Cheers!
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    That's absolutely a great idea Herb! More knowledge, more power! Sharing is caring IMO. 

    I like the SDQL to that Dog off win but what's the premise behind it? I think the biggest addition to the SDQL query is sharing the thoughts/premise behind why it works long term. Cheers!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2017 - 1:25 PM ET #1364

    $86 to win $236.5
    San Francisco Giants +275 
    vs Los Angeles Dodgers

    SYSTEM OF THE DAY: A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is 758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. - Take the Giants!

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    $86 to win $236.5
    San Francisco Giants +275 
    vs Los Angeles Dodgers

    SYSTEM OF THE DAY: A Dog off of a a win as a dog where they scored 3 or fewer runs is 758-939 +82.07 units since 2004. - Take the Giants!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 1:26 PM ET #1365

    Minnesota Twins +180 
    vs Cleveland Indians
    $89 to win $160.20

    https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28int%28str%28date%29%5B4%3A%5D%29%3E901%20and%20playoffs%3D0%20and%20line%3E%3D-105%20and%20season%3E2011%20and%20o%3Awins-o%3Alosses%3E32%29%20as%20%22Since%202012%2C%20Dogs%20facing%20teams%20%28likely%20clinched%29%20with%20over%2033%20more%20wins%20than%20losses%2C%20in%20regular%20season%20from%209/1%27s%20on%2C%20are%2057-49%20%2B39.06%20units%2C%20%2B36.8%25%20roi%20SU%21%22&plot_PL=1
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    Minnesota Twins +180 
    vs Cleveland Indians
    $89 to win $160.20

    https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28int%28str%28date%29%5B4%3A%5D%29%3E901%20and%20playoffs%3D0%20and%20line%3E%3D-105%20and%20season%3E2011%20and%20o%3Awins-o%3Alosses%3E32%29%20as%20%22Since%202012%2C%20Dogs%20facing%20teams%20%28likely%20clinched%29%20with%20over%2033%20more%20wins%20than%20losses%2C%20in%20regular%20season%20from%209/1%27s%20on%2C%20are%2057-49%20%2B39.06%20units%2C%20%2B36.8%25%20roi%20SU%21%22&plot_PL=1
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 4:15 PM ET #1366

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28int%28str%28date%29%5B4%3A%5D%29%3E901%20and%20playoffs%3D0%20and%20line%3E%3D-105%20and%20season%3E2011%20and%20o%3Awins-o%3Alosses%3E32%29%20as%20%22Since%202012%2C%20Dogs%20facing%20teams%20%28likely%20clinched%29%20with%20over%2033%20more%20wins%20than%20losses%2C%20in%20regular%20season%20from%209/1%27s%20on%2C%20are%2057-49%20%2B39.06%20units%2C%20%2B36.8%25%20roi%20SU%21%22&plot_PL=1


    Indians don't have 33 more wins than losses.  they're at 30 right now (98-58).  was 33 a typo in SDQL or just in your post?  or am i not reading that right?

    one other thing i see that may skew the stat there is that for the years you queried, the World Series home-field advantage was determined by the All Star Game winner.  this year it will be determined by the regular season records of the 2 teams that meet.  Cleveland could still catch the Dodgers to gain home field, and on the flip side of that they don't want the Nationals to catch up to them and take that away since they won't know who they'll be playing until after the NLCS. 

    sorry to critique your query, but i think this rule change (and the other number i pointed out) do affect this pretty significantly, at least in theory, as to how teams that have that far of a lead and have clenched would approach the final stretch of baseball.  makes every game count even with a huge lead in the win column.
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    https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28int%28str%28date%29%5B4%3A%5D%29%3E901%20and%20playoffs%3D0%20and%20line%3E%3D-105%20and%20season%3E2011%20and%20o%3Awins-o%3Alosses%3E32%29%20as%20%22Since%202012%2C%20Dogs%20facing%20teams%20%28likely%20clinched%29%20with%20over%2033%20more%20wins%20than%20losses%2C%20in%20regular%20season%20from%209/1%27s%20on%2C%20are%2057-49%20%2B39.06%20units%2C%20%2B36.8%25%20roi%20SU%21%22&plot_PL=1


    Indians don't have 33 more wins than losses.  they're at 30 right now (98-58).  was 33 a typo in SDQL or just in your post?  or am i not reading that right?

    one other thing i see that may skew the stat there is that for the years you queried, the World Series home-field advantage was determined by the All Star Game winner.  this year it will be determined by the regular season records of the 2 teams that meet.  Cleveland could still catch the Dodgers to gain home field, and on the flip side of that they don't want the Nationals to catch up to them and take that away since they won't know who they'll be playing until after the NLCS. 

    sorry to critique your query, but i think this rule change (and the other number i pointed out) do affect this pretty significantly, at least in theory, as to how teams that have that far of a lead and have clenched would approach the final stretch of baseball.  makes every game count even with a huge lead in the win column.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 4:19 PM ET #1367

    Started from first page of thread then jumped to last. 
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 5:23 PM ET #1368

    98-58=40 
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    98-58=40 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 5:25 PM ET #1369

    Dutch did you fail math in school????
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 6:00 PM ET #1370

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgelb47:

    Dutch did you fail math in school????


    whoops, no, i have a masters in accounting.  i made a mistake in my haste to post the other info about the rule change having an effect.

     i think that the rule change for home field advantage is really the more important point anyway.  if this was in a prior year, the indians would already know they would have home field advantage b/c the AL won the ASG.  but not this season.  these games are important.


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    Dutch did you fail math in school????


    whoops, no, i have a masters in accounting.  i made a mistake in my haste to post the other info about the rule change having an effect.

     i think that the rule change for home field advantage is really the more important point anyway.  if this was in a prior year, the indians would already know they would have home field advantage b/c the AL won the ASG.  but not this season.  these games are important.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 6:06 PM ET #1371

    Like this play Herb. BOL 
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    Like this play Herb. BOL 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2017 - 6:17 PM ET #1372

    Good dog
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgelb47:

    Dutch did you fail math in school????

    And other things too maybe
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    Dutch did you fail math in school????

    And other things too maybe
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2017 - 11:51 AM ET #1374

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Minnesota Twins +180 
    vs Cleveland Indians
    $89 to win $160.20
    WINNER!


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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Minnesota Twins +180 
    vs Cleveland Indians
    $89 to win $160.20
    WINNER!


    Current Bankroll: $13,212.97
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    Nice work bro
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