Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
And a few more facts for those who like to selectively listen to what suits them...or make up stuff for that matter.
Make no bones about it....Santana FORCED this trade. He told MN to trade him this week to a NY TEAM or he would just pitch this year for MN and then walk away....giving MN NOTHING. He has a no trade clause folks....
....he could veto any trade he wants even if MN called his bluff and tried to trade him later. And then, who knows if a NY team would even be interested.
The rip on MN's front office is not for making this deal....it's for waiting to long and NOT making one of the others at the baseball meetings.
But make no mistake....Santana is the reason this deal got done. ![]()
Or maybe it was Omar's genius.....![]()
And a few more facts for those who like to selectively listen to what suits them...or make up stuff for that matter.
Make no bones about it....Santana FORCED this trade. He told MN to trade him this week to a NY TEAM or he would just pitch this year for MN and then walk away....giving MN NOTHING. He has a no trade clause folks....
....he could veto any trade he wants even if MN called his bluff and tried to trade him later. And then, who knows if a NY team would even be interested.
The rip on MN's front office is not for making this deal....it's for waiting to long and NOT making one of the others at the baseball meetings.
But make no mistake....Santana is the reason this deal got done. ![]()
Or maybe it was Omar's genius.....![]()
Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
That's ok, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Nothing wrong with that.
Santana is ours. That's all I care.
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Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
That's ok, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Nothing wrong with that.
Santana is ours. That's all I care.
![]()
And the season will be played. And it's going to be an exciting one.
And your comment about Santana getting hurt, that's nonsense.
I'm pretty sure you would want him in your team.
And the season will be played. And it's going to be an exciting one.
And your comment about Santana getting hurt, that's nonsense.
I'm pretty sure you would want him in your team.
Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
Not totally disagreeing that Signing Pedro, Beltran, Wagner, and Delgado were no-brainers that required a large check book, BUT-
Omar traded Kris Benson to Baltimore for John Maine (unknown at the time) and Jorge Julio... then traded around and traded Julio to Arizona for El Duque. Benson subsequently tore his elbow.
Minaya also got Oliver Perez as a THROW IN....VERY SHREWD IMO.
He traded Jae Seo for Duaner Sanchez, who was dominating hitters K-Rod style before getting in that car accident two years ago. hopefully he'll be healthy this year and return to form. Lord knows, Jae Seo won't be heard from again.
Jealousy?
Please feel free to refute anything I said above about Omar and his "shrewd" moves. Tell me about a shrewd trade he made or where he's signed someone for less money then market....or something like that....I guess the "jealousy" accusation must mean that you can't...because I was pretty specific with my examples.
And the injury thing is just my OPINION....I have no problem if you disagree with that.
He's overpaid for nearly every free agent he has signed and his scouting department hit the lottery with Reyes and Wright.
And now he has this fall into his lap? Wow, he sure is shrewd. ![]()
Jealousy?
You frequent the baseball forum....please check every one of my threads....you'll see that I have been BEGGING MN to trade Santana....since the end of last year.
The only thing I'm mad about is that they waited so long and then got screwed when Santana gave them an ultimatum.
Some people here are such homers that they can't even look at the facts. Boggles my mind. ![]()
Not totally disagreeing that Signing Pedro, Beltran, Wagner, and Delgado were no-brainers that required a large check book, BUT-
Omar traded Kris Benson to Baltimore for John Maine (unknown at the time) and Jorge Julio... then traded around and traded Julio to Arizona for El Duque. Benson subsequently tore his elbow.
Minaya also got Oliver Perez as a THROW IN....VERY SHREWD IMO.
He traded Jae Seo for Duaner Sanchez, who was dominating hitters K-Rod style before getting in that car accident two years ago. hopefully he'll be healthy this year and return to form. Lord knows, Jae Seo won't be heard from again.
Omar Minaya, Jeff Wilpon and Peter Greenberg are on the call, Johan Santana is not.
There will be a formal press conference with Santana at Shea Stadium on Wednesday, Feb. 6.
According to Greenberg, after the Twins, the Mets were Santana’s first choice. He told the Twins he would not stand in their way of getting the best package of players from wherever Smith needed to send him, but the Mets had always been his top choice, followed by either the Red Sox and the Yankees.
Minaya said there was a point during the negotiations when he worried that a contract would not get done, as they were ‘very far apart,’ with only an hour left to go. He asked for the extension, it was granted by the Twins and the commisioner’s office and they were able to agree on a contract. According to Wilpon, they were confident they could sign him, and there was no way they would have pulled the trigger on the trade if signing him was in doubt.
Greenberg said this was one of the most unique negotiations he had ever been apart of, especially with the added element of checking his watch every fine minutes.
According to Wilpon, the extension was needed to work out the final $5 million of the deal – which was essentially the buyout for the final option year.
Minaya called Santana, “A true, number-one starter.” He is happy to had added as much pitching and defense as he did this off-season, since it is what he believes is necessary to win a championship.
According to Minaya, it was Greenberg and Wilpon who did a great job working out the contract’s details in the final hours.
Minaya says he entered the winter saying he wanted to acquire a font-line starting pitcher, and though he was tempted at times to sign a free agent, for fear he’d be unable to replace Tom Glavine, something told him to be patient with Twins GM Bill Smith.
After the winter meetings, Minaya bet Wilpon a pair of shoes that Santana would become available again and that the Mets would have a chance to get him.
Last week, Smith called and said, “I want every one’s best offer,” and since he would never trade Fernando Martinez, Pelfrey or Jose Reyes, he offered up the four prospects and Smith accepted.
According to Minaya, it was very hard for him to give up on Humber, Gomez, Mulvey and Guerra, ‘but we need to win now,’ he added, and since the only way to acquire an ace was via trade, he had to do what was necessary.
Omar Minaya, Jeff Wilpon and Peter Greenberg are on the call, Johan Santana is not.
There will be a formal press conference with Santana at Shea Stadium on Wednesday, Feb. 6.
According to Greenberg, after the Twins, the Mets were Santana’s first choice. He told the Twins he would not stand in their way of getting the best package of players from wherever Smith needed to send him, but the Mets had always been his top choice, followed by either the Red Sox and the Yankees.
Minaya said there was a point during the negotiations when he worried that a contract would not get done, as they were ‘very far apart,’ with only an hour left to go. He asked for the extension, it was granted by the Twins and the commisioner’s office and they were able to agree on a contract. According to Wilpon, they were confident they could sign him, and there was no way they would have pulled the trigger on the trade if signing him was in doubt.
Greenberg said this was one of the most unique negotiations he had ever been apart of, especially with the added element of checking his watch every fine minutes.
According to Wilpon, the extension was needed to work out the final $5 million of the deal – which was essentially the buyout for the final option year.
Minaya called Santana, “A true, number-one starter.” He is happy to had added as much pitching and defense as he did this off-season, since it is what he believes is necessary to win a championship.
According to Minaya, it was Greenberg and Wilpon who did a great job working out the contract’s details in the final hours.
Minaya says he entered the winter saying he wanted to acquire a font-line starting pitcher, and though he was tempted at times to sign a free agent, for fear he’d be unable to replace Tom Glavine, something told him to be patient with Twins GM Bill Smith.
After the winter meetings, Minaya bet Wilpon a pair of shoes that Santana would become available again and that the Mets would have a chance to get him.
Last week, Smith called and said, “I want every one’s best offer,” and since he would never trade Fernando Martinez, Pelfrey or Jose Reyes, he offered up the four prospects and Smith accepted.
According to Minaya, it was very hard for him to give up on Humber, Gomez, Mulvey and Guerra, ‘but we need to win now,’ he added, and since the only way to acquire an ace was via trade, he had to do what was necessary.

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