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#151
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Congrats to the yankees and there 500 mil dollar payroll!
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#153
[Quote: Originally Posted by jpero]
They will never acknowledge the built in demographic/geographic advantages the Yankees have over every single team. They will hold onto the sham of revenue sharing which does not incorportate profits of media outlets and such....
They don't care because they feel they are entitled to be in the playoffs every year because they are the Yankees.
They are playing within the rules but Selig is to blame, along with Yankee management, for the out of control spending and destruction to the game of baseball that once graced all areas of the nation instead of the 4 large markets.
This is why NFL is superior in popularity and profits and will continue to be because every fan base and team has a chance year in and out.
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#154
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
Its not just the luxury tax, its the revenue sharing as well you don't get it, you are wrong I'm sorry!!!! The Devil Rays in 2005 had a 35 MIL payroll, but brought in 177 million.... WHERE IS THAT MONEY????????? Answer me that???????? Why is Major League baseball rleasing those comments???????? Why is major league baseball trying to work on the smaller markets haveing to youse the revenue sharing and tx for team investment only????????? Rigt now the owners can do what they please with the money!!!!!!!
People sign with the yankees and red sox because they KNOW their owners are always COMMITTED TO WINNING, and putting the best product on the field.......... WHy would anyone sign with the Pirates if all they do is trade their best players pocket the money and hope new prospects turn out to be studs!
Everyone can sign these players they choose not to!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They would rather hope they can draft a guy like RYAN BRAUN pay him nothing, and then trade him never spending a dollar. Your Wrong Period!
Its not just the luxury tax, its the revenue sharing as well you don't get it, you are wrong I'm sorry!!!! The Devil Rays in 2005 had a 35 MIL payroll, but brought in 177 million.... WHERE IS THAT MONEY????????? Answer me that???????? Why is Major League baseball rleasing those comments???????? Why is major league baseball trying to work on the smaller markets haveing to youse the revenue sharing and tx for team investment only????????? Rigt now the owners can do what they please with the money!!!!!!!
People sign with the yankees and red sox because they KNOW their owners are always COMMITTED TO WINNING, and putting the best product on the field.......... WHy would anyone sign with the Pirates if all they do is trade their best players pocket the money and hope new prospects turn out to be studs!
Everyone can sign these players they choose not to!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They would rather hope they can draft a guy like RYAN BRAUN pay him nothing, and then trade him never spending a dollar. Your Wrong Period!
wow yankee fan guy u post some good info on rev sharing but then u back it up with some ridiculous theories. . just post info and please stop talking. . ur the one who has no idea what ur talking about
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#155
finally got done reading all 7 pages. . kudos jp. your analysis was spot on. . . if ur not a lawyer u def should be one or at least renegotiating the cba in 2 years when it comes up. . hopefully mlb strikes till they fix this f ing monopoly
the yanks are playing by the rules of mlb. . the problem is the rules arent fair for the fans. . sure the players get paid whatever they want .. the owners do what they want with their money and most fans of middle to small market teams get more fireworks and bobbleheads to compensate for the lack of mlb talent on the field
once proud baseball organizations like my pirates were the talk of the town and mlb back in the day now they are afterthought and ridiculed in the media .. nobody cares about baseball anymore in pittsburgh cincinatti kc balt and the list goes on and on. baseball is such a tragic story. . honestly there is no need for half the teams anymore. . my dad grew up in the 60's and 70's and use to be a die hard fan watching maz stargell clemente beat the yanks. . now he has no interest in baseball due to its sad state. .and honestly i cant blame him. .im sure there are alot of former baseball fans in small market cities that feel this way and have given up on baseball. .i would have loved to see jason bay or barry bonds finish out his career as a pirate like derek jeter will with the yanks. . the problem is that will never happen. . small market teams have to be able to draft smart develop that talent bring up enough of that nucleus all at the same time and add a piece or two just so they can have a tiny window to make a run at the playoffs before trading off all their prime players or risk losing them all via free agency. . the system is unfair and if big market fans cant see that then they are oblivious to the sad state of baseball
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#156
Quote Originally Posted by sell24:
wow yankee fan guy u post some good info on rev sharing but then u back it up with some ridiculous theories. . just post info and please stop talking. . ur the one who has no idea what ur talking about
Name one ridiculous theroy, and I'll get you the fact to support it!
And PS, what you wrote in #155, your just babbling and complaining, like a little baby... if you and your Daddy actually cared about the Pirates you would go to the games, instead complaining about the Yankees and whining like a little kid. And maybe your "owner" would put his money into the team...They have the money to keep a guy like Jason Bay "THAT IS A FACT"... The problem is no-one in Small Market cities care about baseball anymore, its your fault and nobody elses. If I was the owner of the Pirates, I would keep my money too! The difference between New York, Boston, Los Angeles, We will continue to be fans win or loose, you guys from small markets would rather complain, and whine, about the bigger cities...Take your diaper off, grab your Daddy, and go to a Pirates game and make some noise. Untill than you will we be in the dungeon for a long time. Grow up
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#157
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
Name one ridiculous theroy, and I'll get you the fact to support it!
And PS, what you wrote in #155, your just babbling and complaining, like a little baby... if you and your Daddy actually cared about the Pirates you would go to the games, instead complaining about the Yankees and whining like a little kid. And maybe your "owner" would put his money into the team...They have the money to keep a guy like Jason Bay "THAT IS A FACT"... The problem is no-one in Small Market cities care about baseball anymore, its your fault and nobody elses. If I was the owner of the Pirates, I would keep my money too! The difference between New York, Boston, Los Angeles, We will continue to be fans win or loose, you guys from small markets would rather complain, and whine, about the bigger cities...Take your diaper off, grab your Daddy, and go to a Pirates game and make some noise. Untill than you will we be in the dungeon for a long time. Grow up
Name one ridiculous theroy, and I'll get you the fact to support it!
And PS, what you wrote in #155, your just babbling and complaining, like a little baby... if you and your Daddy actually cared about the Pirates you would go to the games, instead complaining about the Yankees and whining like a little kid. And maybe your "owner" would put his money into the team...They have the money to keep a guy like Jason Bay "THAT IS A FACT"... The problem is no-one in Small Market cities care about baseball anymore, its your fault and nobody elses. If I was the owner of the Pirates, I would keep my money too! The difference between New York, Boston, Los Angeles, We will continue to be fans win or loose, you guys from small markets would rather complain, and whine, about the bigger cities...Take your diaper off, grab your Daddy, and go to a Pirates game and make some noise. Untill than you will we be in the dungeon for a long time. Grow up
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#161
Quote Originally Posted by sell24:
finally got done reading all 7 pages. . kudos jp. your analysis was spot on. . . if ur not a lawyer u def should be one or at least renegotiating the cba in 2 years when it comes up. . hopefully mlb strikes till they fix this f ing monopoly
the yanks are playing by the rules of mlb. . the problem is the rules arent fair for the fans. . sure the players get paid whatever they want .. the owners do what they want with their money and most fans of middle to small market teams get more fireworks and bobbleheads to compensate for the lack of mlb talent on the field
once proud baseball organizations like my pirates were the talk of the town and mlb back in the day now they are afterthought and ridiculed in the media .. nobody cares about baseball anymore in pittsburgh cincinatti kc balt and the list goes on and on. baseball is such a tragic story. . honestly there is no need for half the teams anymore. . my dad grew up in the 60's and 70's and use to be a die hard fan watching maz stargell clemente beat the yanks. . now he has no interest in baseball due to its sad state. .and honestly i cant blame him. .im sure there are alot of former baseball fans in small market cities that feel this way and have given up on baseball. .i would have loved to see jason bay or barry bonds finish out his career as a pirate like derek jeter will with the yanks. . the problem is that will never happen. . small market teams have to be able to draft smart develop that talent bring up enough of that nucleus all at the same time and add a piece or two just so they can have a tiny window to make a run at the playoffs before trading off all their prime players or risk losing them all via free agency. . the system is unfair and if big market fans cant see that then they are oblivious to the sad state of baseball
AND FYI Since when is Pittsburgh a small market when it comes to sports?????????????????????? You have recently won a Stanley Cup, recently won a Super Bowl, but since your baseball team sucks you would rather complain and blame the Yankees and red Sox and whomever but your self.... Small Market is Kansas City, not Pittsburgh
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#162
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
AND FYI Since when is Pittsburgh a small market when it comes to sports?????????????????????? You have recently won a Stanley Cup, recently won a Super Bowl, but since your baseball team sucks you would rather complain and blame the Yankees and red Sox and whomever but your self.... Small Market is Kansas City, not Pittsburgh
AND FYI Since when is Pittsburgh a small market when it comes to sports?????????????????????? You have recently won a Stanley Cup, recently won a Super Bowl, but since your baseball team sucks you would rather complain and blame the Yankees and red Sox and whomever but your self.... Small Market is Kansas City, not Pittsburgh
Don't debate with those less fortunate than yourself.
This moron has to compare an entire state to a city.
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#163
Quote Originally Posted by sell24:
finally got done reading all 7 pages. . kudos jp. your analysis was spot on. . . if ur not a lawyer u def should be one or at least renegotiating the cba in 2 years when it comes up. . hopefully mlb strikes till they fix this f ing monopoly
the yanks are playing by the rules of mlb. . the problem is the rules arent fair for the fans. . sure the players get paid whatever they want .. the owners do what they want with their money and most fans of middle to small market teams get more fireworks and bobbleheads to compensate for the lack of mlb talent on the field
once proud baseball organizations like my pirates were the talk of the town and mlb back in the day now they are afterthought and ridiculed in the media .. nobody cares about baseball anymore in pittsburgh cincinatti kc balt and the list goes on and on. baseball is such a tragic story. . honestly there is no need for half the teams anymore. . my dad grew up in the 60's and 70's and use to be a die hard fan watching maz stargell clemente beat the yanks. . now he has no interest in baseball due to its sad state. .and honestly i cant blame him. .im sure there are alot of former baseball fans in small market cities that feel this way and have given up on baseball. .i would have loved to see jason bay or barry bonds finish out his career as a pirate like derek jeter will with the yanks. . the problem is that will never happen. . small market teams have to be able to draft smart develop that talent bring up enough of that nucleus all at the same time and add a piece or two just so they can have a tiny window to make a run at the playoffs before trading off all their prime players or risk losing them all via free agency. . the system is unfair and if big market fans cant see that then they are oblivious to the sad state of baseball
I am an Orioles fan and have faith in them to do well in 2 years with the nucleus they have but once Weiters reaches FA there is no chance to resign him.
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#164
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
Name one ridiculous theroy, and I'll get you the fact to support it!
And PS, what you wrote in #155, your just babbling and complaining, like a little baby... if you and your Daddy actually cared about the Pirates you would go to the games, instead complaining about the Yankees and whining like a little kid. And maybe your "owner" would put his money into the team...They have the money to keep a guy like Jason Bay "THAT IS A FACT"... The problem is no-one in Small Market cities care about baseball anymore, its your fault and nobody elses. If I was the owner of the Pirates, I would keep my money too! The difference between New York, Boston, Los Angeles, We will continue to be fans win or loose, you guys from small markets would rather complain, and whine, about the bigger cities...Take your diaper off, grab your Daddy, and go to a Pirates game and make some noise. Untill than you will we be in the dungeon for a long time. Grow up
Name one ridiculous theroy, and I'll get you the fact to support it!
And PS, what you wrote in #155, your just babbling and complaining, like a little baby... if you and your Daddy actually cared about the Pirates you would go to the games, instead complaining about the Yankees and whining like a little kid. And maybe your "owner" would put his money into the team...They have the money to keep a guy like Jason Bay "THAT IS A FACT"... The problem is no-one in Small Market cities care about baseball anymore, its your fault and nobody elses. If I was the owner of the Pirates, I would keep my money too! The difference between New York, Boston, Los Angeles, We will continue to be fans win or loose, you guys from small markets would rather complain, and whine, about the bigger cities...Take your diaper off, grab your Daddy, and go to a Pirates game and make some noise. Untill than you will we be in the dungeon for a long time. Grow up
Can't make a sound argument for your side so you choose to name call.
Stay Classy new york.
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#165
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
AND FYI Since when is Pittsburgh a small market when it comes to sports?????????????????????? You have recently won a Stanley Cup, recently won a Super Bowl, but since your baseball team sucks you would rather complain and blame the Yankees and red Sox and whomever but your self.... Small Market is Kansas City, not Pittsburgh
AND FYI Since when is Pittsburgh a small market when it comes to sports?????????????????????? You have recently won a Stanley Cup, recently won a Super Bowl, but since your baseball team sucks you would rather complain and blame the Yankees and red Sox and whomever but your self.... Small Market is Kansas City, not Pittsburgh
Going to have to shwo you wrong and ruin your twisted perception once again.
Markets of more than 10 million people
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21,199,865 New York Mets, New York Yankees
16,373,645 Los Angeles Angels, Los Angeles Dodgers
Markets of 5-10 million people
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9,157,540 Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox
7,608,070 Baltimore Orioles, Washington Nationals
7,039,362 Oakland Athletics, San Francisco Giants
6,188,463 Philadelphia Phillies
5,819,100 Boston Red Sox
5,456,428 Detroit Tigers
5,221,801 Texas Rangers
Markets of 3-5 million people
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4,682,897 Toronto Blue Jays
4,669,571 Houston Astros
4,112,198 Atlanta Braves
3,878,380 Florida Marlins
3,554,760 Seattle Mariners
3,426,350 Montréal, QC (NHL)
3,251,876 Arizona Diamondbacks
Markets of 2-3 million people
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2,968,806 Minnesota Twins
2,945,831 Cleveland Indians
2,813,833 San Diego Padres
2,603,607 St Louis Cardinals
2,581,506 Colorado Rockies
2,395,997 Tampa Bay Devil Rays
2,358,695 Pittsburgh Pirates
2,265,223 Portland, OR (NBA)
Markets of 1-2 million people
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1,986,965 Vancouver, BC (NHL)
1,979,202 Cincinnati Reds
1,796,857 Sacramento, CA (NBA)
1,776,062 Kansas City Royals
1,689,572 Milwaukee Brewers
1,644,561 Orlando, FL (NBA)
1,607,486 Indianapolis, IN (NBA, NFL)
1,592,383 San Antonio, TX (NBA)
1,540,157 Columbus, OH (NHL)
1,499,293 Charlotte, NC (NBA, NFL)
1,337,726 New Orleans, LA (NBA, NFL)
1,333,914 Salt Lake City, UT (NBA)
1,231,311 Nashville, TN (NFL, NHL)
1,187,941 Raleigh, NC (NHL)
1,170,111 Buffalo, NY (NFL, NHL)
1,135.614 Memphis, TN (NBA)
1,100,491 Jacksonville, FL (NFL)
1,063,664 Ottawa, ON (NHL)
Markets of fewer than 1 million people
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951,395 Calgary, AB (NHL)
937,845 Edmonton, AB (NHL)
599,671 Green Bay, WI (NFL)
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#166
Quote Originally Posted by jpero:
Going to have to shwo you wrong and ruin your twisted perception once again.
Going to have to shwo you wrong and ruin your twisted perception once again.
Markets of more than 10 million people
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21,199,865 New York Mets, New York Yankees
16,373,645 Los Angeles Angels, Los Angeles Dodgers
Markets of 5-10 million people
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9,157,540 Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox
7,608,070 Baltimore Orioles, Washington Nationals
7,039,362 Oakland Athletics, San Francisco Giants
6,188,463 Philadelphia Phillies
5,819,100 Boston Red Sox
5,456,428 Detroit Tigers
5,221,801 Texas Rangers
Markets of 3-5 million people
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4,682,897 Toronto Blue Jays
4,669,571 Houston Astros
4,112,198 Atlanta Braves
3,878,380 Florida Marlins
3,554,760 Seattle Mariners
3,426,350 Montréal, QC (NHL)
3,251,876 Arizona Diamondbacks
Markets of 2-3 million people
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2,968,806 Minnesota Twins
2,945,831 Cleveland Indians
2,813,833 San Diego Padres
2,603,607 St Louis Cardinals
2,581,506 Colorado Rockies
2,395,997 Tampa Bay Devil Rays
2,358,695 Pittsburgh Pirates
2,265,223 Portland, OR (NBA)
Markets of 1-2 million people
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1,986,965 Vancouver, BC (NHL)
1,979,202 Cincinnati Reds
1,796,857 Sacramento, CA (NBA)
1,776,062 Kansas City Royals
1,689,572 Milwaukee Brewers
1,644,561 Orlando, FL (NBA)
1,607,486 Indianapolis, IN (NBA, NFL)
1,592,383 San Antonio, TX (NBA)
1,540,157 Columbus, OH (NHL)
1,499,293 Charlotte, NC (NBA, NFL)
1,337,726 New Orleans, LA (NBA, NFL)
1,333,914 Salt Lake City, UT (NBA)
1,231,311 Nashville, TN (NFL, NHL)
1,187,941 Raleigh, NC (NHL)
1,170,111 Buffalo, NY (NFL, NHL)
1,135.614 Memphis, TN (NBA)
1,100,491 Jacksonville, FL (NFL)
1,063,664 Ottawa, ON (NHL)
Markets of fewer than 1 million people
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951,395 Calgary, AB (NHL)
937,845 Edmonton, AB (NHL)
599,671 Green Bay, WI (NFL)
So than Baltimore, Washinton, Oakland, San Fran contradict your argument than right?
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#169
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
The St.Louis Cardinals don't seem to have a problem year in and year out???
The St.Louis Cardinals don't seem to have a problem year in and year out???
The NL is completely different from the AL. i've already addressed that point and how it is different. The same with the AL central being different than the AL east and AL west.
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#171
Quote Originally Posted by jpero:
The NL is completely different from the AL. i've already addressed that point and how it is different. The same with the AL central being different than the AL east and AL west.
The NL is completely different from the AL. i've already addressed that point and how it is different. The same with the AL central being different than the AL east and AL west.
How is the NL different? The St. Louis Cardinals (Missouri) are always in the top 5 to10 teams in team revenue? Why is that? its a small market right?
And PS there are 2 teams in NY.... And 2 teams in Los Angeles.... So mathematician, divide those markets in half still aboove the rest but not by much
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