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    RenegadesOfFunk
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2016 - 7:27 AM ET #26

    Rothwell and Natal are my two no brainers this weekend.  Bol to all.
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    Rothwell and Natal are my two no brainers this weekend.  Bol to all.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2016 - 7:40 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    New to gambling or UFC????
    Both. Watching UFC Mid 2000's maybe seen 30 matches till this year. New to analyizing UFC fights, the way fights are matched up, game plans of fighters and when fighters are done progressing mentally and in rank. When you factor these in you can find the most probable winner of key matches. The way the covers expert for MMA chooses his matchups is very mediocre because he does not factor these things in. I did make the mistake taking pettis and TJ. Made adjustments. The way I bet is being fine tuned. MMA is the only sport that I know of that give favourites (slight or large) +150 odds or more on key matchups. The difficult part is figuring out how fighters pair up regardless of the past.

    Wow just 30 matches till now. Should be interesting how your Cover's career goes. Not bad thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    New to gambling or UFC????
    Both. Watching UFC Mid 2000's maybe seen 30 matches till this year. New to analyizing UFC fights, the way fights are matched up, game plans of fighters and when fighters are done progressing mentally and in rank. When you factor these in you can find the most probable winner of key matches. The way the covers expert for MMA chooses his matchups is very mediocre because he does not factor these things in. I did make the mistake taking pettis and TJ. Made adjustments. The way I bet is being fine tuned. MMA is the only sport that I know of that give favourites (slight or large) +150 odds or more on key matchups. The difficult part is figuring out how fighters pair up regardless of the past.

    Wow just 30 matches till now. Should be interesting how your Cover's career goes. Not bad thus far.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2016 - 7:41 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadesOfFunk:

    Rothwell and Natal are my two no brainers this weekend.  Bol to all.

    Any thoughts on these no brainers Funk???
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadesOfFunk:

    Rothwell and Natal are my two no brainers this weekend.  Bol to all.

    Any thoughts on these no brainers Funk???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2016 - 12:29 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

     
    Wow just 30 matches till now. Should be interesting how your Cover's career goes. Not bad thus far.

    Hopefully well. Im confident in Roth, Sage, Rivera so this card should be a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

     
    Wow just 30 matches till now. Should be interesting how your Cover's career goes. Not bad thus far.

    Hopefully well. Im confident in Roth, Sage, Rivera so this card should be a good one.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2016 - 12:30 PM ET #30

    Same goes with Sullivan and a good chance for bader. 
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    Same goes with Sullivan and a good chance for bader. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2016 - 12:23 PM ET #31

    From the top boys:
    Johnson(-370) 370 gets me 100.
    Under 1.5 Johnson/Bader 1 gets me 1.20.
    Rothwell(+137) 2 gets me 2.74.
    Rivera(-170) 8.50 gets me 5.
    Northcutt(-470) 47 gets me 10.
    Under 1.5 Northcutt/Barberena fight 1 gets me 1.15.
    Saffiedine(-243) 4.86 gets me 2.
    Casey(+135) 2 gets me 2.70.
    Ortiz(-220) 4.40 gets me 2.
    Under 1.5 Caceres/Fullen fight 1 gets me 1.10.
    Dwyer(+165) 1 gets me 1.65
    Under 1.5 Brown/Dwyer fight 1.15 gets me 1.
    FFD Olivieri(+150) 1 gets me 1.50.
    Under 1.5 Martin/Olivieri fight 1 gets me 1.20.

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    From the top boys:
    Johnson(-370) 370 gets me 100.
    Under 1.5 Johnson/Bader 1 gets me 1.20.
    Rothwell(+137) 2 gets me 2.74.
    Rivera(-170) 8.50 gets me 5.
    Northcutt(-470) 47 gets me 10.
    Under 1.5 Northcutt/Barberena fight 1 gets me 1.15.
    Saffiedine(-243) 4.86 gets me 2.
    Casey(+135) 2 gets me 2.70.
    Ortiz(-220) 4.40 gets me 2.
    Under 1.5 Caceres/Fullen fight 1 gets me 1.10.
    Dwyer(+165) 1 gets me 1.65
    Under 1.5 Brown/Dwyer fight 1.15 gets me 1.
    FFD Olivieri(+150) 1 gets me 1.50.
    Under 1.5 Martin/Olivieri fight 1 gets me 1.20.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2016 - 12:37 PM ET #32

    $445.91 in action. So after tonite I'll either be cutting into that $600 hole I put myself in or I'll be digging out of a bigger one, lol. As you can see I am by far the worst line reader in Cover's history i.e. Johnson, Northcutt lines!!!!!!!!!! A couple quick points and see if it happens tonite.
    Like poking a bear with a stick, I or anybody in my camp would ever say boy that guy is mentally weak, all fighters are tough some more than others and some hit alot harder than others, hmmm.
    Why do I feel it's gonna be a Rothwell, Covers bloodbath???????? Barnett is far from being a bum IF his head is right.
    Alcantara giving Rivera a few jabs at weigh ins, love the tough guy on stage thing. LMAO.
    Alot has been writing about Northcutt, I could be wrong but he doesn't lose here but he will lose soon!!!!!!!!!
    Wanted to play Ferreira but boy did he look Sapped after making weight, anybody get this pun!!!!!!!!!!
    I stacked Casey and Rothwell hoping I have better dog sucess than last nights Bellator.
    Love Ortiz, love the grind, at the moment maybe the best at the Rufos camp.
    First four fights I could see any dog hitting, liked Dwyer as the FFD but then they changed so Olivieri FFD it is.

    Ok guys and gals good luck tonite.
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    $445.91 in action. So after tonite I'll either be cutting into that $600 hole I put myself in or I'll be digging out of a bigger one, lol. As you can see I am by far the worst line reader in Cover's history i.e. Johnson, Northcutt lines!!!!!!!!!! A couple quick points and see if it happens tonite.
    Like poking a bear with a stick, I or anybody in my camp would ever say boy that guy is mentally weak, all fighters are tough some more than others and some hit alot harder than others, hmmm.
    Why do I feel it's gonna be a Rothwell, Covers bloodbath???????? Barnett is far from being a bum IF his head is right.
    Alcantara giving Rivera a few jabs at weigh ins, love the tough guy on stage thing. LMAO.
    Alot has been writing about Northcutt, I could be wrong but he doesn't lose here but he will lose soon!!!!!!!!!
    Wanted to play Ferreira but boy did he look Sapped after making weight, anybody get this pun!!!!!!!!!!
    I stacked Casey and Rothwell hoping I have better dog sucess than last nights Bellator.
    Love Ortiz, love the grind, at the moment maybe the best at the Rufos camp.
    First four fights I could see any dog hitting, liked Dwyer as the FFD but then they changed so Olivieri FFD it is.

    Ok guys and gals good luck tonite.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2016 - 1:00 PM ET #33

    Oh one more thing I'll be watching for every fence grab and eye poke to see if these rules are ever enforced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Oh one more thing I'll be watching for every fence grab and eye poke to see if these rules are ever enforced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2016 - 8:29 PM ET #34

    Oh my!!!! Maybe he does lose here, lol
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    Oh my!!!! Maybe he does lose here, lol
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2016 - 3:23 PM ET #35

    Fights 4-4(+55.34)
    O/U 1-4(-3.15)
    FFD 0-1(-1.00)
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    Fights 4-4(+55.34)
    O/U 1-4(-3.15)
    FFD 0-1(-1.00)
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2016 - 9:16 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    You can tell by looking through his fights he can take on mid level fighter with little resistance. He can beat cerrone, same with Alvarez. Khabib, Conor and RDA is his real challenge. At the rate he is improving he is a contender. He lacks a something in his game thats difficult to pin point, hopefully he picks it up as he goes on. The lack of a training camp is a problem. He needs to work his way up, a fight with Conor is probably the end game. Could you imagine Conor trash talking Sage lol..
    Khabib would Fitch him to death!!!!
    ...U were joking about him beating Cowboy right? I was surprised how he was starting to gas.The way his opponent acted after was embarrassing.He has nice explosion,but its obvious he is years away from Conor. Nice thought,but he just lost to a BUM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    You can tell by looking through his fights he can take on mid level fighter with little resistance. He can beat cerrone, same with Alvarez. Khabib, Conor and RDA is his real challenge. At the rate he is improving he is a contender. He lacks a something in his game thats difficult to pin point, hopefully he picks it up as he goes on. The lack of a training camp is a problem. He needs to work his way up, a fight with Conor is probably the end game. Could you imagine Conor trash talking Sage lol..
    Khabib would Fitch him to death!!!!
    ...U were joking about him beating Cowboy right? I was surprised how he was starting to gas.The way his opponent acted after was embarrassing.He has nice explosion,but its obvious he is years away from Conor. Nice thought,but he just lost to a BUM.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2016 - 10:38 AM ET #37

    That fight was to see how he will fairs with higher ranking opponents. When Holbook ran away from the fight Sage had to fight one or two skill levels above Holbrook. Like werdum fake an injury..

     One thing I always overlook is a fighters chin and their wrestling defence. He has neither. That was an unorthodox move from half guard, performed at a high level. 

    Should of said he has potential to beat Conor. Within 4 years he can beat Cowboy. His chin is no good though, his movement better be good. 

    He has to work on controlled aggression, becoming more nuanced in his striking, movement and timing. He is a white belt on the ground and in the clinch. That is his way to move up the ladder. Within 10 years if he continues fighting and training properly he will be above Conor. Conor will leave by then. 

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    That fight was to see how he will fairs with higher ranking opponents. When Holbook ran away from the fight Sage had to fight one or two skill levels above Holbrook. Like werdum fake an injury..

     One thing I always overlook is a fighters chin and their wrestling defence. He has neither. That was an unorthodox move from half guard, performed at a high level. 

    Should of said he has potential to beat Conor. Within 4 years he can beat Cowboy. His chin is no good though, his movement better be good. 

    He has to work on controlled aggression, becoming more nuanced in his striking, movement and timing. He is a white belt on the ground and in the clinch. That is his way to move up the ladder. Within 10 years if he continues fighting and training properly he will be above Conor. Conor will leave by then. 

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2016 - 6:23 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:

    Sage would have the upperhand against khabib. His stand up is much better. Sage has good wrestling to back up his striking. Put him in Tristar or Winkeljohn and its game over.  If Sage wasnt 2 times stronger than Khabib, Khabib would be 2 to 1 favourite real odds. They would still give Khabib favourite even though Sage is the actual favourite (-130). If line makers accurately made every line it would make even the casual better profitable with professionals line makers predicting match ups.

    Please take that back,man up to this absurd statement.The Eagle would Smash this kid.I got to tell u I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when u said he could beat The Eagle or Cowboy.I think Sat night proved that.Look we are all wrong in predictions at some time,but you gotta own it or your MMA opinion is totally irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:

    Sage would have the upperhand against khabib. His stand up is much better. Sage has good wrestling to back up his striking. Put him in Tristar or Winkeljohn and its game over.  If Sage wasnt 2 times stronger than Khabib, Khabib would be 2 to 1 favourite real odds. They would still give Khabib favourite even though Sage is the actual favourite (-130). If line makers accurately made every line it would make even the casual better profitable with professionals line makers predicting match ups.

    Please take that back,man up to this absurd statement.The Eagle would Smash this kid.I got to tell u I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when u said he could beat The Eagle or Cowboy.I think Sat night proved that.Look we are all wrong in predictions at some time,but you gotta own it or your MMA opinion is totally irrelevant.
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