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#1
Events 1-1
YTD 7-13(-603.20)
O/U 5-6(-0.55)
FFD 1-1(+0.30)
Wheel 5-7(+0.09)
YTD 7-13(-603.20)
O/U 5-6(-0.55)
FFD 1-1(+0.30)
Wheel 5-7(+0.09)
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Posted:
#3
Northcutt is making his way to the top for a fight against Conor. He is top 3 level, fighting a low to mid level fighter. Building him up.
Bader is worth a small bet or parlay w/ Northcutt. He hasnt fought Cormier yet. Definately Bader's chance to push through and grind out a win, Alvarez style.. a rumble KO hedge is good idea.
Rothwell has a mismatch with Barnett at +135. Barnett has no drive to make it to top 5.
Rivera has good power, solid stand up.
Saffediene may edge out a victory, ellenberger has solid power and needs a win.
Posted:
#4
Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:
Northcutt is making his way to the top for a fight against Conor. He is top 3 level, fighting a low to mid level fighter. Building him up.
Northcutt is making his way to the top for a fight against Conor. He is top 3 level, fighting a low to mid level fighter. Building him up.
Bader is worth a small bet or parlay w/ Northcutt. He hasnt fought Cormier yet. Definately Bader's chance to push through and grind out a win, Alvarez style.. a rumble KO hedge is good idea.
Rothwell has a mismatch with Barnett at +135. Barnett has no drive to make it to top 5.
Rivera has good power, solid stand up.
Saffediene may edge out a victory, ellenberger has solid power and needs a win.
Northcutt better learn TD defense or he don't sniff top 5 guys.
Never been a fan of Bader since Tito subbed him, he better be on his bike for the first 3 rounds.
Always like Rothwell, don't think Dana likes him at all,lol.
Rivera kinda puzzles me because of his solid striking but not many finishes.
I'm not playing Saffiedine/Ellenberger fight because of Tarec's injuries and Jake's horrible slide, too many umknowns for me.
I do think the undercard has some value!!!!!!!!!!
Posted:
#6
Those are very minor flaws. Saffediene still has the edge striking wise.
Rivera doesnt load up on his punches if im recalling correct, actually he outboxes fighters like a boxer would go about it. His strength makes fighters think twice.
Undercard has good match ups.
Randy, Felipe, Levan have the edge. WIll need to go over one last time.
Rafael and Olivier I am still on the fence if they have an edge.
Still have 4 match ups to look over. I will post up my fight predictions of every fight and see how many I called correct. Hopefully people will post their predictions too.
Posted:
#7
I dont know if UFC is this creative, but having Paige Vanzant hyped up and losing a one sided matchup to Rose somehow is influencing people to doubt Sage. He does lack a bit of intuition that elite fighters have, making up that flaw with the altheticism and wide range of attacks. He doesnt have a style of fighting, very well rounded.
They have the same persona, Paige has no background in martial arts, Sage does and is strongest in the division, yet lacks the drive to be champ. On the surface they look similar.
Undercard has good value. Best value is Rothwell and Felipe.
What are your thoughts on Olvier vs Carlos and Kevin vs Rafael?
Posted:
#10
Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:
Northcutt is making his way to the top for a fight against Conor. He is top 3 level, fighting a low to mid level fighter. Building him up. Bader is worth a small bet or parlay w/ Northcutt. He hasnt fought Cormier yet. Definately Bader's chance to push through and grind out a win, Alvarez style.. a rumble KO hedge is good idea. Rothwell has a mismatch with Barnett at +135. Barnett has no drive to make it to top 5. Rivera has good power, solid stand up. Saffediene may edge out a victory, ellenberger has solid power and needs a win.
What makes u think he is Top3 level?Northcutt is making his way to the top for a fight against Conor. He is top 3 level, fighting a low to mid level fighter. Building him up. Bader is worth a small bet or parlay w/ Northcutt. He hasnt fought Cormier yet. Definately Bader's chance to push through and grind out a win, Alvarez style.. a rumble KO hedge is good idea. Rothwell has a mismatch with Barnett at +135. Barnett has no drive to make it to top 5. Rivera has good power, solid stand up. Saffediene may edge out a victory, ellenberger has solid power and needs a win.
Posted:
#12
Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:
What makes u think he is Top3 level?
What makes u think he is Top3 level?
You can tell by looking through his fights he can take on mid level fighter with little resistance. He can beat cerrone, same with Alvarez. Khabib, Conor and RDA is his real challenge. At the rate he is improving he is a contender. He lacks a something in his game thats difficult to pin point, hopefully he picks it up as he goes on. The lack of a training camp is a problem.
He needs to work his way up, a fight with Conor is probably the end game. Could you imagine Conor trash talking Sage lol..
Posted:
#13
Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:
Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:
What makes u think he is Top3 level?
You can tell by looking through his fights he can take on mid level fighter with little resistance. He can beat cerrone, same with Alvarez. Khabib, Conor and RDA is his real challenge. At the rate he is improving he is a contender. He lacks a something in his game thats difficult to pin point, hopefully he picks it up as he goes on. The lack of a training camp is a problem. He needs to work his way up, a fight with Conor is probably the end game. Could you imagine Conor trash talking Sage lol..What makes u think he is Top3 level?
Khabib would Fitch him to death!!!!
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#16
Sage would have the upperhand against khabib. His stand up is much better. Sage has good wrestling to back up his striking. Put him in Tristar or Winkeljohn and its game over.
If Sage wasnt 2 times stronger than Khabib, Khabib would be 2 to 1 favourite real odds. They would still give Khabib favourite even though Sage is the actual favourite (-130). If line makers accurately made every line it would make even the casual better profitable with professionals line makers predicting match ups.
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#22
Quote Originally Posted by Redwing51:
Sage would have the upperhand against khabib. His stand up is much better. Sage has good wrestling to back up his striking. Put him in Tristar or Winkeljohn and its game over. If Sage wasnt 2 times stronger than Khabib, Khabib would be 2 to 1 favourite real odds. They would still give Khabib favourite even though Sage is the actual favourite (-130). If line makers accurately made every line it would make even the casual better profitable with professionals line makers predicting match ups.
Sage would have the upperhand against khabib. His stand up is much better. Sage has good wrestling to back up his striking. Put him in Tristar or Winkeljohn and its game over. If Sage wasnt 2 times stronger than Khabib, Khabib would be 2 to 1 favourite real odds. They would still give Khabib favourite even though Sage is the actual favourite (-130). If line makers accurately made every line it would make even the casual better profitable with professionals line makers predicting match ups.
Hey man real quick... Khabib would RAG DOLL Sage... Let's not forget that the GOD AWEFUL Cody Pfister took Sage down and was absolutely grinding him until that terrible standup by the referee. Cody tends to gas which he did again in that fight which lead to him being finished. But you say Sage would beat khabib, Cerrone, Conor... The kid is 2-0 and hasn't seen real competition. Barberena this weekend too is no slouch. This is sages biggest test. But for you to sit here and say that he would beat khabib... It's very comical lol. He has no answer off his back.
Posted:
#23
Quote Originally Posted by WalshyMMA:
Hey man real quick... Khabib would RAG DOLL Sage... Let's not forget that the GOD AWEFUL Cody Pfister took Sage down and was absolutely grinding him until that terrible standup by the referee. Cody tends to gas which he did again in that fight which lead to him being finished. But you say Sage would beat khabib, Cerrone, Conor... The kid is 2-0 and hasn't seen real competition. Barberena this weekend too is no slouch. This is sages biggest test. But for you to sit here and say that he would beat khabib... It's very comical lol. He has no answer off his back.
Hey man real quick... Khabib would RAG DOLL Sage... Let's not forget that the GOD AWEFUL Cody Pfister took Sage down and was absolutely grinding him until that terrible standup by the referee. Cody tends to gas which he did again in that fight which lead to him being finished. But you say Sage would beat khabib, Cerrone, Conor... The kid is 2-0 and hasn't seen real competition. Barberena this weekend too is no slouch. This is sages biggest test. But for you to sit here and say that he would beat khabib... It's very comical lol. He has no answer off his back.
And at 170 too.
Posted:
#24
Quote Originally Posted by WalshyMMA:
Hey man real quick... Khabib would RAG DOLL Sage... Let's not forget that the GOD AWEFUL Cody Pfister took Sage down and was absolutely grinding him until that terrible standup by the referee. Cody tends to gas which he did again in that fight which lead to him being finished. But you say Sage would beat khabib, Cerrone, Conor... The kid is 2-0 and hasn't seen real competition. Barberena this weekend too is no slouch. This is sages biggest test. But for you to sit here and say that he would beat khabib... It's very comical lol. He has no answer off his back.
Hey man real quick... Khabib would RAG DOLL Sage... Let's not forget that the GOD AWEFUL Cody Pfister took Sage down and was absolutely grinding him until that terrible standup by the referee. Cody tends to gas which he did again in that fight which lead to him being finished. But you say Sage would beat khabib, Cerrone, Conor... The kid is 2-0 and hasn't seen real competition. Barberena this weekend too is no slouch. This is sages biggest test. But for you to sit here and say that he would beat khabib... It's very comical lol. He has no answer off his back.
It is irrelevant that he only fought twice. He could fight 5 low ranking fighters and win. To be honest he wasnt even trying off his back, he knew he didnt need to do something special. His defence is lacking somewhat I have to say.. see as he progresses
Without a doubt he is up there at Cerrone range at very least. MJ and Nate right now cant beat healthy khabib or RDA or Sage. Safe to say Sage is a contender to Khabib 1 year from now. Put him through training camps. He never adapted his game to handle mma yet, at 19 everything adapts quickly.
What I remember of that fight with Cody is Sage holding down Codys arms to his body. Not much ground and pound if any. Needs to improve TD defence, sure. Sage's take downs are the best I have seen. He reminds me of GSP style, with improve striking yet less dynamic grappling as of now. He has total control of his body. The way he does backflips is scary..
The thing is he has the potential to be better than khabib. I over shot by saying he can beat him now easily, but in a year when he is matched up with khabib. Watching his progress he has a big chance.
The way he trains in his own description is to fine tune his movements, and perfect his technique. He has a background in Wrestling and Martial arts. Fighting sage is like fighting someone on steroids. Add improved wrestling training with pro wrestlers he will be ready. If that plays out then Sage is the favourite over top fighters.
Call me crazy, I would take him over Conor in a years time. Holly holm type beat down.
Posted:
#25
Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:
New to gambling or UFC????
New to gambling or UFC????
Both. Watching UFC Mid 2000's maybe seen 30 matches till this year. New to analyizing UFC fights, the way fights are matched up, game plans of fighters and when fighters are done progressing mentally and in rank.
When you factor these in you can find the most probable winner of key matches. The way the covers expert for MMA chooses his matchups is very mediocre because he does not factor these things in. I did make the mistake taking pettis and TJ. Made adjustments. The way I bet is being fine tuned.
MMA is the only sport that I know of that give favourites (slight or large) +150 odds or more on key matchups. The difficult part is figuring out how fighters pair up regardless of the past.
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