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    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier (7/7/18)

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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2018 - 2:23 PM ET #1

    UFC 226

    Venue: T-Mobile Arena
    Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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    UFC 226

    Venue: T-Mobile Arena
    Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2018 - 10:47 AM ET #2

    What do you think about the Holloway fight?

    I really think Ortega can take this fight. 

    Also are you going to be betting the TUF Finale? July 6th the night before the Cormier fight.

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    What do you think about the Holloway fight?

    I really think Ortega can take this fight. 

    Also are you going to be betting the TUF Finale? July 6th the night before the Cormier fight.

     
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Stipe Miocic vs Daniel Cormier
    Max Holloway vs Brian Ortega
    Francis Ngannou vs Derrick Lewis
    Michael Chiesa vs Anthony Pettis
    Gokhan Saki vs Khalil Rountree Jr. 
    FS1 - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Uriah Hall vs Paulo Costa
    Yancy Medeiros vs Mike Perry
    Raphael Assuncao vs Rob Font
    Curtis Millender vs Max Griffin
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:30 PM ET
    Dan Hooker vs Gilbert Burns
    Lando Vannata vs Drakkar Klose
    Jamie Moyle vs Emily Whitmire
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Stipe Miocic vs Daniel Cormier
    Max Holloway vs Brian Ortega
    Francis Ngannou vs Derrick Lewis
    Michael Chiesa vs Anthony Pettis
    Gokhan Saki vs Khalil Rountree Jr. 
    FS1 - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Uriah Hall vs Paulo Costa
    Yancy Medeiros vs Mike Perry
    Raphael Assuncao vs Rob Font
    Curtis Millender vs Max Griffin
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:30 PM ET
    Dan Hooker vs Gilbert Burns
    Lando Vannata vs Drakkar Klose
    Jamie Moyle vs Emily Whitmire
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2018 - 3:37 PM ET #4

    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Stipe Miocic (-170)
    Daniel Cormier (+140)

    Max Holloway (-180)
    Brian Ortega (+140)

    Francis Ngannou (-230)
    Derrick Lewis (+170)

    Michael Chiesa (-150)
    Anthony Pettis (+110)

    Gokhan Saki (-180)
    Khalil Rountree Jr. (+140)
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Stipe Miocic (-170)
    Daniel Cormier (+140)

    Max Holloway (-180)
    Brian Ortega (+140)

    Francis Ngannou (-230)
    Derrick Lewis (+170)

    Michael Chiesa (-150)
    Anthony Pettis (+110)

    Gokhan Saki (-180)
    Khalil Rountree Jr. (+140)
     
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    Uriah Hall (+210)
    Paulo Costa (-290)

    Yancy Medeiros (+120)
    Mike Perry (-160)

    Raphael Assuncao (-270)
    Rob Font (+190)

    Curtis Millender (-190)
    Max Griffin (+150)

    Dan Hooker (-160)
    Gilbert Burns (+120)

    Lando Vannata (-245)
    Drakkar Klose (+175)

    Jamie Moyle (-350)
    Emily Whitmire (+250)
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    Uriah Hall (+210)
    Paulo Costa (-290)

    Yancy Medeiros (+120)
    Mike Perry (-160)

    Raphael Assuncao (-270)
    Rob Font (+190)

    Curtis Millender (-190)
    Max Griffin (+150)

    Dan Hooker (-160)
    Gilbert Burns (+120)

    Lando Vannata (-245)
    Drakkar Klose (+175)

    Jamie Moyle (-350)
    Emily Whitmire (+250)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2018 - 4:35 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Caff3inekil0s:

    What do you think about the Holloway fight?

    I really think Ortega can take this fight. 

    Also are you going to be betting the TUF Finale? July 6th the night before the Cormier fight.


    The Holloway/Ortega fight is the one I'm most looking forward to on this card. Big fan of both fighters, and they are two of the most exciting to watch right now. Currently leaning Ortega and the value is there. Might put together a write up for this fight like I did with the Thompson/Till bout.

    As far as the UFC TUF 27 Finale I'll get a separate thread up for that soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caff3inekil0s:

    What do you think about the Holloway fight?

    I really think Ortega can take this fight. 

    Also are you going to be betting the TUF Finale? July 6th the night before the Cormier fight.


    The Holloway/Ortega fight is the one I'm most looking forward to on this card. Big fan of both fighters, and they are two of the most exciting to watch right now. Currently leaning Ortega and the value is there. Might put together a write up for this fight like I did with the Thompson/Till bout.

    As far as the UFC TUF 27 Finale I'll get a separate thread up for that soon.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2018 - 10:26 AM ET #7

    Sounds good brother.... 

    I am thinking about pounding these two individual bets heavy!!!! 

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    And parlaying   1.   ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa ) +188ish      2. ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa - Brian ortega) +600ish

    The only thing that worries me about the Ortega fight is that idk if he can finish Holloway and if he doesn't Holloway can bring the pace and win by decision. 

     

    Let me know what you think please! Or if you have any other parlay ideas to lock down early. THANKS! 

     

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    Sounds good brother.... 

    I am thinking about pounding these two individual bets heavy!!!! 

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    And parlaying   1.   ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa ) +188ish      2. ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa - Brian ortega) +600ish

    The only thing that worries me about the Ortega fight is that idk if he can finish Holloway and if he doesn't Holloway can bring the pace and win by decision. 

     

    Let me know what you think please! Or if you have any other parlay ideas to lock down early. THANKS! 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2018 - 10:27 AM ET #8

    It left out the two individual bets... 

     

    Curtis -170 

    Israel -205

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    It left out the two individual bets... 

     

    Curtis -170 

    Israel -205

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caff3inekil0s:

    Sounds good brother.... 

    I am thinking about pounding these two individual bets heavy!!!! 

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    And parlaying   1.   ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa ) +188ish      2. ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa - Brian ortega) +600ish

    The only thing that worries me about the Ortega fight is that idk if he can finish Holloway and if he doesn't Holloway can bring the pace and win by decision. 

     

    Let me know what you think please! Or if you have any other parlay ideas to lock down early. THANKS! 

     


    Really like Paulo Costa here. Also think Mike Perry and Francis Ngannou will get the job done. I'm not so sure Holloway/Ortega goes the distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caff3inekil0s:

    Sounds good brother.... 

    I am thinking about pounding these two individual bets heavy!!!! 

    -----

    And parlaying   1.   ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa ) +188ish      2. ( Israel - Curtis - Paulo Costa - Brian ortega) +600ish

    The only thing that worries me about the Ortega fight is that idk if he can finish Holloway and if he doesn't Holloway can bring the pace and win by decision. 

     

    Let me know what you think please! Or if you have any other parlay ideas to lock down early. THANKS! 

     


    Really like Paulo Costa here. Also think Mike Perry and Francis Ngannou will get the job done. I'm not so sure Holloway/Ortega goes the distance.
     
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    Really like Paulo Costa here. Also think Mike Perry and Francis Ngannou will get the job done. I'm not so sure Holloway/Ortega goes the distance.

     

     

    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distancean_lightFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King

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    Really like Paulo Costa here. Also think Mike Perry and Francis Ngannou will get the job done. I'm not so sure Holloway/Ortega goes the distance.

     

     

    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distancean_lightFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2018 - 10:43 AM ET #11

    Ortega vs Hollaway should be amazing...I am a fan of both fighters. The 2 best featherweights hands down IMO

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    Ortega vs Hollaway should be amazing...I am a fan of both fighters. The 2 best featherweights hands down IMO

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2018 - 6:19 PM ET #12

    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $
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    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distancean_lightFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King


    Costa is a dangerous matchup for anyone in the Middleweight division right now. Smart move on Perry's part switching to an elite gym, and you have to remember he is still just 26 years old. There is no doubt that Derrick Lewis swings bricks, but I have a feeling he couldn't last five rounds with Miocic like Ngannou did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distancean_lightFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King


    Costa is a dangerous matchup for anyone in the Middleweight division right now. Smart move on Perry's part switching to an elite gym, and you have to remember he is still just 26 years old. There is no doubt that Derrick Lewis swings bricks, but I have a feeling he couldn't last five rounds with Miocic like Ngannou did.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $

    Looks like Medeiros suffered a broken rib, and Paul Felder opened as a (-145) favorite against Perry (+105). This should be a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $

    Looks like Medeiros suffered a broken rib, and Paul Felder opened as a (-145) favorite against Perry (+105). This should be a good one.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $
    Looks like Medeiros suffered a broken rib, and Paul Felder opened as a (-145) favorite against Perry (+105). This should be a good one.

     

    Definitely a worse matchup for Perry. Again a fight i really like both fighters. This card is one of the best on paper in a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    Felder now in to fight Perry.. actually really like Felder in this fight, esp. if he is plus $
    Looks like Medeiros suffered a broken rib, and Paul Felder opened as a (-145) favorite against Perry (+105). This should be a good one.

     

    Definitely a worse matchup for Perry. Again a fight i really like both fighters. This card is one of the best on paper in a while

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distanceFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King
    Costa is a dangerous matchup for anyone in the Middleweight division right now. Smart move on Perry's part switching to an elite gym, and you have to remember he is still just 26 years old. There is no doubt that Derrick Lewis swings bricks, but I have a feeling he couldn't last five rounds with Miocic like Ngannou did.

     

    True, Perry is young and i hope he sticks with it. I liked looking at his ex but she brought nothing to the table MMA wise. She shouldn't have been nowhere near his corner. As far as Lewis is concerned his gas tank is underrated but this fight will more than likely not go all 3. The crowd will gasp with every swing...i cant wait!

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    Never know with Hall so hard to tell who's gonna show up but Costa is a killer and i don't thinl it will matter. VERY interested to see what the move to Jackson MMA will do for Mike Perry. I like him alot but not sure how a camp notorious for making fighters fight conservative will affect a "dog" like Perry. The Lewis/Francis fight will be fun while it last. Lewis always looks like poo early but connects and gets the W somehow but Francis showed a good chin against Stipe. Francis has much faster hands but Lewis swinging bricks. Gonna go out on a limb and say it won't go the distanceFunny how Dana kept talking about Francis power like no other heavyweight hits with that kinda power. Dana's is a present days Don King
    Costa is a dangerous matchup for anyone in the Middleweight division right now. Smart move on Perry's part switching to an elite gym, and you have to remember he is still just 26 years old. There is no doubt that Derrick Lewis swings bricks, but I have a feeling he couldn't last five rounds with Miocic like Ngannou did.

     

    True, Perry is young and i hope he sticks with it. I liked looking at his ex but she brought nothing to the table MMA wise. She shouldn't have been nowhere near his corner. As far as Lewis is concerned his gas tank is underrated but this fight will more than likely not go all 3. The crowd will gasp with every swing...i cant wait!

     
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    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet. 
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    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet. 
     
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    Definitely a worse matchup for Perry. Again a fight i really like both fighters. This card is one of the best on paper in a while

    This fight has fireworks written all over it. Perry is 8 years younger than Felder and will have more power in the exchanges, so there is some value in Perry at plus money in a potential brawl where Felder is moving up in weight from 155 to 170 lbs on short notice.
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    Definitely a worse matchup for Perry. Again a fight i really like both fighters. This card is one of the best on paper in a while

    This fight has fireworks written all over it. Perry is 8 years younger than Felder and will have more power in the exchanges, so there is some value in Perry at plus money in a potential brawl where Felder is moving up in weight from 155 to 170 lbs on short notice.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet. 

    The line movement would suggest the money is coming in on Ortega. Most people seem to be underestimating how well rounded Ortega may really be, and he may very well have more ways to finish a fight than Holloway does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet. 

    The line movement would suggest the money is coming in on Ortega. Most people seem to be underestimating how well rounded Ortega may really be, and he may very well have more ways to finish a fight than Holloway does.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet.

     

    The more i look into this fight i tend to agree with this. I don't know if i would say Ortega is stiff but i remember him getting pieced up against Moicano late in that fight.

    I want to see them at the weigh ins to see who's the larger man because against Edgar, Ortega looked like the big brother. Once he knew Frankie couldn't hurt him with the pitter pat punches he got creative and delivered one of the most beautifly timed elbows i have ever seen...UNREAL finish. 

    Super excited for this fight especially watching the embedded series. Refreshing to have a high profile fight for the belt without all the FAKE trash talk...although i would like to see the "gangsta" who attacks buses come back and fightan_fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Lot of People betting on Ortega and sleeping on Max....Huge Advantage in standup for Max.  All of Ortega's fights he has been outclassed on the feet. He looks super stiff throwing punches... Max has one of the best footwork and distance control of any UFC fighter. He knows how to get in and out...Insane Cardio and Great chin.  Unless he gets caught with a submission...He will destroy Ortega on his feet.

     

    The more i look into this fight i tend to agree with this. I don't know if i would say Ortega is stiff but i remember him getting pieced up against Moicano late in that fight.

    I want to see them at the weigh ins to see who's the larger man because against Edgar, Ortega looked like the big brother. Once he knew Frankie couldn't hurt him with the pitter pat punches he got creative and delivered one of the most beautifly timed elbows i have ever seen...UNREAL finish. 

    Super excited for this fight especially watching the embedded series. Refreshing to have a high profile fight for the belt without all the FAKE trash talk...although i would like to see the "gangsta" who attacks buses come back and fightan_fight

     
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    Lewis +300 sure is tempting especially with HW's

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    Lewis +300 sure is tempting especially with HW's

     
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    WOW holloway is out again!? Can they get McGregor to step in?? :))

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    WOW holloway is out again!? Can they get McGregor to step in?? :))

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caff3inekil0s:

    WOW holloway is out again!? Can they get McGregor to step in?? :))


    Huge let down. Ortega has no reason to take a short notice fight here so my guess is this fight will have to be rescheduled.

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    WOW holloway is out again!? Can they get McGregor to step in?? :))


    Huge let down. Ortega has no reason to take a short notice fight here so my guess is this fight will have to be rescheduled.

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