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    UFC 188 Write-up / Predicitions

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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 4:45 PM ET #1

    I apologize for being so late with these posts back to back weeks, still been a bit sick. But OHMYGOD am I excited for this card. I'm seeing alot of finishes on this card, despite the early fights being full of relative unknown fighters. Let's get straight to it!

    Gabriel Benitez v. Clay Collard


    Benitez is coming off a technical submission win in his UFC Debut against Humberto Brown. He was certainly won the first round and probably the 2nd, then quickly finished the fight at the start of the 3rd round. He caught Humberto with a knee to start the round and locked up a standing guillotine and took Humberto down to the mat, seemingly already unconscious. He is 17-4 in his pro career with an 88.24% finish rate. This kid is vicious. This kid is a finisher.


    Clay Collard lost his UFC Debut while getting completely destroyed by Max Holloway. He followed up his debut loss with a Decision win in his last fight against Alex White. Collard was a junior olympic boxing champ. He’s 14-5 on his career. He has won 4 of his last 5 pro fights, but has no finishes in that time.


    I’m not impressed with Collard, simply because he hasn’t been able to finish fights as he’s moved up in competition. There’s no same in losing to Max Holloway, in a UFC debut no less, but I’m just not sold that this kid really wants it. Benitez clearly does. He didn’t show any signs of jitters in his UFC Debut with a dominant victory. Benitez will also be the crowd favorite in his native Mexico taking on the American.


    My Pick: Gabriel Benitez (inside the distance)


    Cathal Pendred v. Agusto Montano


    The Irishman is on a 10 fight wining streak, with his last 3 fights being in the UFC. He’s been averaging nearly 3 takedowns per fight and has largely been successful with that style. He put Mike King to sleep with a Rear naked choke in his UFC debut, but has went to decisions in his last 2 wins. He has only finished 43.75% of his pro wins.


    Agusto Montano is a violent fighter. His UFC debut was a brutal domination of Chris Heatherly which he won via R1 TKO. This type of performance was nothing new though, he’s finished 100% of his 15 professional wins with 10 by KO/TKO and 5 Submissions. He’s a purple belt in BJJ.


    I like betting on finishers and Montano is a finisher. I’m sure Pendred will desparately try to take this fight to the cage & to the ground, but it’s not going to work. Pendred is a blue belt in BJJ and Montano’s purple belt will be more than good enough to win on the ground, should the fight go there. I don’t think it will though- the only thing hitting the ground in this fight is Pendred’s lifeless body.


    My Pick: Agusto Montano (KO)


    Francisco Trevino v. Johnny Case


    Francisco is an undefeated fighter at 12-0, coming off a win in his UFC debut. He won a decision over Renee Forte more than a year ago on the Hnedricks vs. Lawler 1 card. Early in the first round he was easily taken down by Forte and immediately gave up his back, but was able to defend the rear naked choke and get back to his feet. He ended up winning the decision but wasn’t at all exciting to watch.


    Johnny Case is the star of this fight. He’s on a 10 win streak with a 20-4 record, with his last 2 fights being in the UFC and he finished both. He put Kazuki Tokudome to sleep with a guillotine and TKO’d Frankie Perez. This kid is one of the brightest young fighters at 155 and I could see him moving up at a Conor Mcgregor like pace. He has an incredible 90% finish rate in his pro career and 100% finish rate so far in the UFC.


    This fight is one of the locks of the night. Trevino doesn’t have a chance.


    My Pick: Johnny Case (KO)


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    I apologize for being so late with these posts back to back weeks, still been a bit sick. But OHMYGOD am I excited for this card. I'm seeing alot of finishes on this card, despite the early fights being full of relative unknown fighters. Let's get straight to it!

    Gabriel Benitez v. Clay Collard


    Benitez is coming off a technical submission win in his UFC Debut against Humberto Brown. He was certainly won the first round and probably the 2nd, then quickly finished the fight at the start of the 3rd round. He caught Humberto with a knee to start the round and locked up a standing guillotine and took Humberto down to the mat, seemingly already unconscious. He is 17-4 in his pro career with an 88.24% finish rate. This kid is vicious. This kid is a finisher.


    Clay Collard lost his UFC Debut while getting completely destroyed by Max Holloway. He followed up his debut loss with a Decision win in his last fight against Alex White. Collard was a junior olympic boxing champ. He’s 14-5 on his career. He has won 4 of his last 5 pro fights, but has no finishes in that time.


    I’m not impressed with Collard, simply because he hasn’t been able to finish fights as he’s moved up in competition. There’s no same in losing to Max Holloway, in a UFC debut no less, but I’m just not sold that this kid really wants it. Benitez clearly does. He didn’t show any signs of jitters in his UFC Debut with a dominant victory. Benitez will also be the crowd favorite in his native Mexico taking on the American.


    My Pick: Gabriel Benitez (inside the distance)


    Cathal Pendred v. Agusto Montano


    The Irishman is on a 10 fight wining streak, with his last 3 fights being in the UFC. He’s been averaging nearly 3 takedowns per fight and has largely been successful with that style. He put Mike King to sleep with a Rear naked choke in his UFC debut, but has went to decisions in his last 2 wins. He has only finished 43.75% of his pro wins.


    Agusto Montano is a violent fighter. His UFC debut was a brutal domination of Chris Heatherly which he won via R1 TKO. This type of performance was nothing new though, he’s finished 100% of his 15 professional wins with 10 by KO/TKO and 5 Submissions. He’s a purple belt in BJJ.


    I like betting on finishers and Montano is a finisher. I’m sure Pendred will desparately try to take this fight to the cage & to the ground, but it’s not going to work. Pendred is a blue belt in BJJ and Montano’s purple belt will be more than good enough to win on the ground, should the fight go there. I don’t think it will though- the only thing hitting the ground in this fight is Pendred’s lifeless body.


    My Pick: Agusto Montano (KO)


    Francisco Trevino v. Johnny Case


    Francisco is an undefeated fighter at 12-0, coming off a win in his UFC debut. He won a decision over Renee Forte more than a year ago on the Hnedricks vs. Lawler 1 card. Early in the first round he was easily taken down by Forte and immediately gave up his back, but was able to defend the rear naked choke and get back to his feet. He ended up winning the decision but wasn’t at all exciting to watch.


    Johnny Case is the star of this fight. He’s on a 10 win streak with a 20-4 record, with his last 2 fights being in the UFC and he finished both. He put Kazuki Tokudome to sleep with a guillotine and TKO’d Frankie Perez. This kid is one of the brightest young fighters at 155 and I could see him moving up at a Conor Mcgregor like pace. He has an incredible 90% finish rate in his pro career and 100% finish rate so far in the UFC.


    This fight is one of the locks of the night. Trevino doesn’t have a chance.


    My Pick: Johnny Case (KO)


     
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    Alejandro Perez v. Patrick Williams


    Perez is coming off a win in his UFC debut against Jose Quinonez, who himself looked impressive on last week’s Fight Pass prelim fight. This guy’s last 11 fights have all been in different organizations, so he’s clearly an any-time-any-where type of fighter. He was a TUF:LA finalest on team Velasquez. He’s 15-5 in his pro career with a 73.33% finish rate.


    Patrick Williams has a meager 7-4 pro record, but has a 85% finish rate on his wins. He is coming off a loss to Chris Beal (KO) in his UFC debut. After getting tagged by Beal, he throw a nasty knee below Beal’s belt and attempted to take the back before Herb Dean stepped in. He repeatedly tried to setup his takedowns with strikes. He landed a nice uppercut on Beal and immediately took him down hard. There were some nasty exchanges in this fight and Williams really didn’t look bad in this loss to the explosive Chris Beal. He got knocked unconscious with a textbook flying knee in the 2nd round.


    I like the underdog in this fight. I don’t think Alejandro is on Chris Beals’ level in striking. Williams is the more explosive fighter with an unpredictable style, and good wrestling. I think he lands some great strikes in this fight and turns them into takedowns.


    My Pick: Patrick Williams (TKO)


    Efrain Escudero v. Drew Dober


    Efrain Escudero is coming off back to back decisions in his first 2 fights since being re-signed to the UFC, with a win and a loss in each. He’s come & gone from the UFC a few times, with a total UFC record of 4-5 but with a pro record of 23-9. That really illustrates how he’s dealt with facing tougher competition. He doesn’t often finish, nor get finished, with only 1 of his last 11 fights ending inside the distance.


    Drew Dober will be back with a vengeance after one of the worst refs in MMA history handing him a stoppage loss when he was in absolutely no danger. He was in top control when Leandro Silva had his arm around his neck, but wasn’t remotely threatening a choke. In a correct but surprising move, the Brazilian commission overturned the loss to a N/C. Prior to this aweful stoppage, he was coming off a Submission victory over Jamie Varner, which ended his 2 fight losing streak dating back to his UFC debut.


    I like Dober in this fight. He’s going to be more motivated than ever and he’s also been looking good in his last 2 fights. I have no faith in Efrain in this, nor any fight.


    My Pick: Drew Dober (decision)


    Henry Cejudo v. Chico Camus


    I’m not writing much here. It’s a waste of time, just like it’s a waste of time for any fighter who enters the Octagaon with Henry Cejudo. He’s the 2008 Olympic Gold winner in freestyle wrestling, and he’s never looked anything less than dominant in the octagon. I find him boring as f*ck to watch, but he’s most certainly going to win and is correctly priced at -1100 odds.


    Chico is a fool for taking this fight. He’s lost to fighters who are 1/10th what Cejudo is. The only question here is whether Cejudo can get the first finish of his UFC career?


    My Pick: Henry Cejudo to win


    Angela Hill v. Tecia Torres


    This is a hard fight to pick. Both women are coming off wins in their UFC debuts, and both did so by decision. They’re both undefeated, with Tecia being 5-0 and Angela being 2-0. Both fighters are able to land around 100 strikes if the fight goes the distance. Torres is a 4 time world kickboxing champion and was ranked #1 amateur before turning pro. Hill is a 3 time WKA North American Muay Thai champion.


    I’m taking Tecia Torres, as she’s the more experienced fighter and has some notable wins including Paige VanZant, Rose Namajunas and Felice Herrig.


    My Pick: Tecia Torres (Decision)

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    Alejandro Perez v. Patrick Williams


    Perez is coming off a win in his UFC debut against Jose Quinonez, who himself looked impressive on last week’s Fight Pass prelim fight. This guy’s last 11 fights have all been in different organizations, so he’s clearly an any-time-any-where type of fighter. He was a TUF:LA finalest on team Velasquez. He’s 15-5 in his pro career with a 73.33% finish rate.


    Patrick Williams has a meager 7-4 pro record, but has a 85% finish rate on his wins. He is coming off a loss to Chris Beal (KO) in his UFC debut. After getting tagged by Beal, he throw a nasty knee below Beal’s belt and attempted to take the back before Herb Dean stepped in. He repeatedly tried to setup his takedowns with strikes. He landed a nice uppercut on Beal and immediately took him down hard. There were some nasty exchanges in this fight and Williams really didn’t look bad in this loss to the explosive Chris Beal. He got knocked unconscious with a textbook flying knee in the 2nd round.


    I like the underdog in this fight. I don’t think Alejandro is on Chris Beals’ level in striking. Williams is the more explosive fighter with an unpredictable style, and good wrestling. I think he lands some great strikes in this fight and turns them into takedowns.


    My Pick: Patrick Williams (TKO)


    Efrain Escudero v. Drew Dober


    Efrain Escudero is coming off back to back decisions in his first 2 fights since being re-signed to the UFC, with a win and a loss in each. He’s come & gone from the UFC a few times, with a total UFC record of 4-5 but with a pro record of 23-9. That really illustrates how he’s dealt with facing tougher competition. He doesn’t often finish, nor get finished, with only 1 of his last 11 fights ending inside the distance.


    Drew Dober will be back with a vengeance after one of the worst refs in MMA history handing him a stoppage loss when he was in absolutely no danger. He was in top control when Leandro Silva had his arm around his neck, but wasn’t remotely threatening a choke. In a correct but surprising move, the Brazilian commission overturned the loss to a N/C. Prior to this aweful stoppage, he was coming off a Submission victory over Jamie Varner, which ended his 2 fight losing streak dating back to his UFC debut.


    I like Dober in this fight. He’s going to be more motivated than ever and he’s also been looking good in his last 2 fights. I have no faith in Efrain in this, nor any fight.


    My Pick: Drew Dober (decision)


    Henry Cejudo v. Chico Camus


    I’m not writing much here. It’s a waste of time, just like it’s a waste of time for any fighter who enters the Octagaon with Henry Cejudo. He’s the 2008 Olympic Gold winner in freestyle wrestling, and he’s never looked anything less than dominant in the octagon. I find him boring as f*ck to watch, but he’s most certainly going to win and is correctly priced at -1100 odds.


    Chico is a fool for taking this fight. He’s lost to fighters who are 1/10th what Cejudo is. The only question here is whether Cejudo can get the first finish of his UFC career?


    My Pick: Henry Cejudo to win


    Angela Hill v. Tecia Torres


    This is a hard fight to pick. Both women are coming off wins in their UFC debuts, and both did so by decision. They’re both undefeated, with Tecia being 5-0 and Angela being 2-0. Both fighters are able to land around 100 strikes if the fight goes the distance. Torres is a 4 time world kickboxing champion and was ranked #1 amateur before turning pro. Hill is a 3 time WKA North American Muay Thai champion.


    I’m taking Tecia Torres, as she’s the more experienced fighter and has some notable wins including Paige VanZant, Rose Namajunas and Felice Herrig.


    My Pick: Tecia Torres (Decision)

     
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    Yair Rodriguez v. Charles Rosa


    Yair is 4-1 as a pro and coming off a decision win in his UFC debut against Leonardo Morales in the TUF:LA finale. He was on team Velasquez, so it’s no surprise to see him on this card in his native Mexico. He’s finished half his wins, including 1 KO & 1 Submission. He’s a Taekwondo black belt and looked good in his last fight, which was very close in striking but he set himself apart with takedowns, transitions and submission attempts.


    Charles Rosa is a guy that I love. He’s a submission machine, and while he’s a brown belt in BJJ you might confuse him for a black belt. He has a 100% finish rate on his 10 pro wins, which includes 7 Submissions & 3 TKO’s. He lost his UFC debut by decision to Dennis Siver, but bounced back in his last outing to win by submission against Sean Soriano.


    This is a great prop bet opportunity. Yair is only a blue belt in BJJ and he’s going to get finished fast by submission. Bet the submission if your book offers it, otherwise take Rosa inside the distance.


    My Pick: Charles Rosa (Submission)


    Kelvin Gastelum v. Nate Marquardt


    Nate Marquardt is now 36 years old and has lost 4 of his last 5 fights, with his last outing ending in a decision loss to Brad Tavares. He’s a BJJ Black Belt and has several BJJ tournament titles, but you wouldn’t know it by watching any of his UFC fights. He started out hot with a 4 win streak upon entering the UFC, but that was a decade ago with his debut in 2005. He beat James Te Huna with an armbar in his last win, but that is sandwiched between losses to Tavares, Lombard, Jake Ellenberger, and Saffiedine.


    Kelvin Gastelum is fighting to get back into the UFC’s good graces, after having tremendous issues making weight at 170 and has finally moved (by force) to 185. The UFC matched him up correctly in his new weight class, and the easier weight cut should help him to win decisively. His wrestling is very good, and while he’s coming off a split decision loss to Tyron Woodley, his last win was a R1 submission on Jake Ellenberger. He’s also beat notable guys like Rick Story & Uriah Hall.


    My Pick: Kelvin Gastelum (Decision)


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    Yair Rodriguez v. Charles Rosa


    Yair is 4-1 as a pro and coming off a decision win in his UFC debut against Leonardo Morales in the TUF:LA finale. He was on team Velasquez, so it’s no surprise to see him on this card in his native Mexico. He’s finished half his wins, including 1 KO & 1 Submission. He’s a Taekwondo black belt and looked good in his last fight, which was very close in striking but he set himself apart with takedowns, transitions and submission attempts.


    Charles Rosa is a guy that I love. He’s a submission machine, and while he’s a brown belt in BJJ you might confuse him for a black belt. He has a 100% finish rate on his 10 pro wins, which includes 7 Submissions & 3 TKO’s. He lost his UFC debut by decision to Dennis Siver, but bounced back in his last outing to win by submission against Sean Soriano.


    This is a great prop bet opportunity. Yair is only a blue belt in BJJ and he’s going to get finished fast by submission. Bet the submission if your book offers it, otherwise take Rosa inside the distance.


    My Pick: Charles Rosa (Submission)


    Kelvin Gastelum v. Nate Marquardt


    Nate Marquardt is now 36 years old and has lost 4 of his last 5 fights, with his last outing ending in a decision loss to Brad Tavares. He’s a BJJ Black Belt and has several BJJ tournament titles, but you wouldn’t know it by watching any of his UFC fights. He started out hot with a 4 win streak upon entering the UFC, but that was a decade ago with his debut in 2005. He beat James Te Huna with an armbar in his last win, but that is sandwiched between losses to Tavares, Lombard, Jake Ellenberger, and Saffiedine.


    Kelvin Gastelum is fighting to get back into the UFC’s good graces, after having tremendous issues making weight at 170 and has finally moved (by force) to 185. The UFC matched him up correctly in his new weight class, and the easier weight cut should help him to win decisively. His wrestling is very good, and while he’s coming off a split decision loss to Tyron Woodley, his last win was a R1 submission on Jake Ellenberger. He’s also beat notable guys like Rick Story & Uriah Hall.


    My Pick: Kelvin Gastelum (Decision)


     
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    Gilbert Melendez v. Eddie Alvarez


    This is a great co-main event between two guys I really like. The fight presents a good stylistic matchup between a great wrestler & a great striker.


    Melendez went on a monster tear in Strikeforce, winning the title twice and going on to defend it 5 times. His UFC fights have been tough outings. He debuted in a title fight to Benson Henderson, which he lost by split decision. He won a decision over Diego Sanchez to earn his next title shot, which he lost to Anthony Pettis via guillotine choke. No shame in either loss.


    Eddie Alvarez has held championship belts in other organizations too, including Reality FC, MFC and Bellator. He lost his UFC debut by decision to Donald Cerrone last September. No shame in that loss either, as he went the distance with one of the best muay thai strikers in the UFC.


    I flirted with Eddie as a value bet, but I only see this fight going one way: Gilbert Melendez will use his excellent wrestling to control the fight and dish out plenty of ground & pound. If somehow Alvarez can keep the fight standing, he definitely has a chance in the striking game. But he hasn’t faced an opponent of this caliber yet and he will notch his 2nd loss straight.


    My Prediction: Gilbert Melendez (TKO)


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    Gilbert Melendez v. Eddie Alvarez


    This is a great co-main event between two guys I really like. The fight presents a good stylistic matchup between a great wrestler & a great striker.


    Melendez went on a monster tear in Strikeforce, winning the title twice and going on to defend it 5 times. His UFC fights have been tough outings. He debuted in a title fight to Benson Henderson, which he lost by split decision. He won a decision over Diego Sanchez to earn his next title shot, which he lost to Anthony Pettis via guillotine choke. No shame in either loss.


    Eddie Alvarez has held championship belts in other organizations too, including Reality FC, MFC and Bellator. He lost his UFC debut by decision to Donald Cerrone last September. No shame in that loss either, as he went the distance with one of the best muay thai strikers in the UFC.


    I flirted with Eddie as a value bet, but I only see this fight going one way: Gilbert Melendez will use his excellent wrestling to control the fight and dish out plenty of ground & pound. If somehow Alvarez can keep the fight standing, he definitely has a chance in the striking game. But he hasn’t faced an opponent of this caliber yet and he will notch his 2nd loss straight.


    My Prediction: Gilbert Melendez (TKO)


     
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    Cain Velasquez v. Fabricio Werdum


    It’s finally here. I’m so excited for this fight I can hardly contain myself, as the MMA community has been waiting how long?  A year and a half. That’s how long it’s been since Cain last entered the octagon. Put this in persepective: Andrei Arlovsky has gone 4-0 in that same time. But we wait no more, King Cain is finally going to defend the title that he could have easily been stripped of.


    Cain Velasquez is 13-1 with 12 of those fights being in the UFC. His lone loss is to Junior Dos Santos, who he went on to beat 2 times after. Sandwiched between those 3 JDS fights are 2 TKO wins over Bigfoot Silva. That’s right, his last 5 fights spamming 2011 to 2013 only included 2 opponents. He finished 11 of his 13 wins by KO or TKO. An absolute freak, who will certainly be a hall of famer no matter what happens from here.


    Fabrico Werdum. One of my favorite guys. The best Jiu Jitsu master in the game today, though a casual fan may not know it given only 1 of his current 5 win streak came by submission. That’s because his striking is top level as well.


    Alot of people are saying that Cain will make quick work of Werdum and will knock him out in under 2.5. Well Cain has certainly earned that reputation, but I don’t think Werdum is the guy you can make that kind of claim against. His 5 win streak includes other dangerous strikers like Roy Nelson, Travis Browne, and most recently Mark Hunt who he TKO’d. This guy’s chin should not be in question, even in his toughest test of his career. Oh and that Travis Browne fight went to a FIVE ROUND decision. His cardio isn’t that of Cain’s, but this guy has survived dangerous strikers even in championship rounds 4 & 5.


    I’m a Jiu Jitsu guy. If you read my write ups, you know that. So it shouldn’t surprise you that I’m on Fabricio Werdum. His striking is very good and his Jiu Jitsu is world class. Cain’s striking is world class, but he has no Jiu Jitsu background. That’s where the scales are tipped.


    Cain normally lands strikes in heavy volume, and can easily take down opponents where he can pour on the ground & pound. I honestly would be surprised if he tried to take Fabricio down early, since he knows his opponent and doesn’t want to play to Werdum’s strengths. But at some point, instinct will take over and it will be Cain’s undoing.


    I think Fabricio is good enough on the feet to keep the striking game close, and one of these guys will go to the ground eventually and Fabricio will go to work. The fight could end up on the ground due to a knockdown strike, or by takedown. It will happen though.


    Whoever wins, it will be inside the distance in this 5 round main event.


    My Prediction: Fabricio Werdum (inside the distance)


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    Cain Velasquez v. Fabricio Werdum


    It’s finally here. I’m so excited for this fight I can hardly contain myself, as the MMA community has been waiting how long?  A year and a half. That’s how long it’s been since Cain last entered the octagon. Put this in persepective: Andrei Arlovsky has gone 4-0 in that same time. But we wait no more, King Cain is finally going to defend the title that he could have easily been stripped of.


    Cain Velasquez is 13-1 with 12 of those fights being in the UFC. His lone loss is to Junior Dos Santos, who he went on to beat 2 times after. Sandwiched between those 3 JDS fights are 2 TKO wins over Bigfoot Silva. That’s right, his last 5 fights spamming 2011 to 2013 only included 2 opponents. He finished 11 of his 13 wins by KO or TKO. An absolute freak, who will certainly be a hall of famer no matter what happens from here.


    Fabrico Werdum. One of my favorite guys. The best Jiu Jitsu master in the game today, though a casual fan may not know it given only 1 of his current 5 win streak came by submission. That’s because his striking is top level as well.


    Alot of people are saying that Cain will make quick work of Werdum and will knock him out in under 2.5. Well Cain has certainly earned that reputation, but I don’t think Werdum is the guy you can make that kind of claim against. His 5 win streak includes other dangerous strikers like Roy Nelson, Travis Browne, and most recently Mark Hunt who he TKO’d. This guy’s chin should not be in question, even in his toughest test of his career. Oh and that Travis Browne fight went to a FIVE ROUND decision. His cardio isn’t that of Cain’s, but this guy has survived dangerous strikers even in championship rounds 4 & 5.


    I’m a Jiu Jitsu guy. If you read my write ups, you know that. So it shouldn’t surprise you that I’m on Fabricio Werdum. His striking is very good and his Jiu Jitsu is world class. Cain’s striking is world class, but he has no Jiu Jitsu background. That’s where the scales are tipped.


    Cain normally lands strikes in heavy volume, and can easily take down opponents where he can pour on the ground & pound. I honestly would be surprised if he tried to take Fabricio down early, since he knows his opponent and doesn’t want to play to Werdum’s strengths. But at some point, instinct will take over and it will be Cain’s undoing.


    I think Fabricio is good enough on the feet to keep the striking game close, and one of these guys will go to the ground eventually and Fabricio will go to work. The fight could end up on the ground due to a knockdown strike, or by takedown. It will happen though.


    Whoever wins, it will be inside the distance in this 5 round main event.


    My Prediction: Fabricio Werdum (inside the distance)


     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 5:38 PM ET #6

    Great thoughts
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    Great thoughts
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 8:43 PM ET #7

    The oddsmakers obviously don't believe Werdums BJJ is a match for Cain's everything else.
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    The oddsmakers obviously don't believe Werdums BJJ is a match for Cain's everything else.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 8:56 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    The oddsmakers obviously don't believe Werdums BJJ is a match for Cain's everything else.

    Wouldn't be the first time oddsmakers screwed up on MMA. I remember when they gave me +700 against Fedor. But I digress... oddsmakers have major sports pretty well handicapped, but they routinely screw up on fringe sports and that includes MMA. If that's the best argument you can make against Werdum, I like +375 even more. This fight is way closer than +375.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    The oddsmakers obviously don't believe Werdums BJJ is a match for Cain's everything else.

    Wouldn't be the first time oddsmakers screwed up on MMA. I remember when they gave me +700 against Fedor. But I digress... oddsmakers have major sports pretty well handicapped, but they routinely screw up on fringe sports and that includes MMA. If that's the best argument you can make against Werdum, I like +375 even more. This fight is way closer than +375.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 8:58 PM ET #9

    I'm more interested to see how the line moves leading up to the main event. I might load up big if it gets out of control +500 or better.
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    I'm more interested to see how the line moves leading up to the main event. I might load up big if it gets out of control +500 or better.
     
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    Even tho we have seen some fighters come off a long layoff to win recently, NOBODY knows how Cain will react to being back in the cage after 18 months. Could Cain still win even if he is not at his best...sure.

    But must agree with you that there is big value on Werdum. Anything around +400 vs. a long layoff opponent is a great bet.

    GL and thanks for posting.
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    Even tho we have seen some fighters come off a long layoff to win recently, NOBODY knows how Cain will react to being back in the cage after 18 months. Could Cain still win even if he is not at his best...sure.

    But must agree with you that there is big value on Werdum. Anything around +400 vs. a long layoff opponent is a great bet.

    GL and thanks for posting.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2015 - 10:34 PM ET #11

    Collard took Holloway on short notice
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    Collard took Holloway on short notice
     
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    Thanks for the additional input Ferrari, I didn't know that was a short notice fight. Max Holloway is definitely a tough draw for a UFC debut and short notice makes it even tougher. Maybe I looked past Collard too much. I already have Benitez on 2 parlays so hopefully he comes through, if not at least it's the first fight so I can chase those losses :)
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    Thanks for the additional input Ferrari, I didn't know that was a short notice fight. Max Holloway is definitely a tough draw for a UFC debut and short notice makes it even tougher. Maybe I looked past Collard too much. I already have Benitez on 2 parlays so hopefully he comes through, if not at least it's the first fight so I can chase those losses :)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebelt:

    Thanks for the additional input Ferrari, I didn't know that was a short notice fight. Max Holloway is definitely a tough draw for a UFC debut and short notice makes it even tougher. Maybe I looked past Collard too much. I already have Benitez on 2 parlays so hopefully he comes through, if not at least it's the first fight so I can chase those losses :)


    Yeah Holloway closed at (-1500) in that fight. Collard took the fight on 7 days notice, he's tough as shyt. But it's Mexico close to Brazil!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebelt:

    Thanks for the additional input Ferrari, I didn't know that was a short notice fight. Max Holloway is definitely a tough draw for a UFC debut and short notice makes it even tougher. Maybe I looked past Collard too much. I already have Benitez on 2 parlays so hopefully he comes through, if not at least it's the first fight so I can chase those losses :)


    Yeah Holloway closed at (-1500) in that fight. Collard took the fight on 7 days notice, he's tough as shyt. But it's Mexico close to Brazil!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 9:24 AM ET #14

    Where can I find results from last weeks fights 6-6-15
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    Where can I find results from last weeks fights 6-6-15
     
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    I agree with some of your analysis. However,  I'm starting to think that you are putting too much emphasis on people's past finishing ability, especially for those fighters who got most of their finishes prior to the UFC. The level of competition is just not the same. 
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    I agree with some of your analysis. However,  I'm starting to think that you are putting too much emphasis on people's past finishing ability, especially for those fighters who got most of their finishes prior to the UFC. The level of competition is just not the same. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 12:36 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTUS:

    Where can I find results from last weeks fights 6-6-15

    https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-new-orleans-2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTUS:

    Where can I find results from last weeks fights 6-6-15

    https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-new-orleans-2015
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    I agree with some of your analysis. However,  I'm starting to think that you are putting too much emphasis on people's past finishing ability, especially for those fighters who got most of their finishes prior to the UFC. The level of competition is just not the same.

    It's because outside of parlays I usually prop bet the winner with method, and bet a lot of over / unders. The data is relevant for this purpose. When I compile my data, I also make a distinction in fighters records both in and out of the UFC. I use a computer formula to analyze over 20 data points on each fighter. And this formula is always being refined, and when I make a change in my formula I run each fight with the new vs old to compare. It also is very relevant with so many fighters having short experience in the UFC, against an opponent with the same. When fighters hit the 5 or 6 fight mark in the UFC it is easier to filter everything down to their UFC only records. It's hard to summarize all this data in a paragraph or two, so I try to pick a few relevant points on lesser tenured fighters. Also, guys who have low finish rates in smaller organizations tend to flounder in the UFC as soon as they run into guys with even a tiny bit more UFC experience. Hope the sheds some light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    I agree with some of your analysis. However,  I'm starting to think that you are putting too much emphasis on people's past finishing ability, especially for those fighters who got most of their finishes prior to the UFC. The level of competition is just not the same.

    It's because outside of parlays I usually prop bet the winner with method, and bet a lot of over / unders. The data is relevant for this purpose. When I compile my data, I also make a distinction in fighters records both in and out of the UFC. I use a computer formula to analyze over 20 data points on each fighter. And this formula is always being refined, and when I make a change in my formula I run each fight with the new vs old to compare. It also is very relevant with so many fighters having short experience in the UFC, against an opponent with the same. When fighters hit the 5 or 6 fight mark in the UFC it is easier to filter everything down to their UFC only records. It's hard to summarize all this data in a paragraph or two, so I try to pick a few relevant points on lesser tenured fighters. Also, guys who have low finish rates in smaller organizations tend to flounder in the UFC as soon as they run into guys with even a tiny bit more UFC experience. Hope the sheds some light.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 7:32 PM ET #18

    Benitez did exactly what I thought, except finish. Shame on you Ferrari for making me doubt myself, LOL! Collard looked pathetic! He showed some heart but his skills turned to dogsh*t early. I was laughing through the second half at how desparate he was for a takedown. I'd be perfectly happy to never watch Collard "fight" again LOL.
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    Benitez did exactly what I thought, except finish. Shame on you Ferrari for making me doubt myself, LOL! Collard looked pathetic! He showed some heart but his skills turned to dogsh*t early. I was laughing through the second half at how desparate he was for a takedown. I'd be perfectly happy to never watch Collard "fight" again LOL.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 7:38 PM ET #19

    Lol Whitebelt. Might have been his worse fight ever. Nice start and that altitude is showing!!!!
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    Lol Whitebelt. Might have been his worse fight ever. Nice start and that altitude is showing!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 7:40 PM ET #20

    I'd like to see Agusto finish Pendred. If it goes to decision, Pendred might steal his 3rd bad decision in a row! But hey this is Mexico, not the most honest place on earth :)
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    I'd like to see Agusto finish Pendred. If it goes to decision, Pendred might steal his 3rd bad decision in a row! But hey this is Mexico, not the most honest place on earth :)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 8:02 PM ET #21

    Pendred is such a snoozefest. Douchebag stole his last 2 decisions, though this one was more earned. I personally wouldn't have awarded him anything, all he does is clinch up. Another guy I hope gets cut from the UFC. Pendred has never entertained me for a single second, and he probably never will. He is not talented and he is not what I want to see in the Octagon. 
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    Pendred is such a snoozefest. Douchebag stole his last 2 decisions, though this one was more earned. I personally wouldn't have awarded him anything, all he does is clinch up. Another guy I hope gets cut from the UFC. Pendred has never entertained me for a single second, and he probably never will. He is not talented and he is not what I want to see in the Octagon. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 8:11 PM ET #22

    Case better destroy this clown...
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    Case better destroy this clown...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 8:20 PM ET #23

    Trevino is a joke. He does his little whip to Johnny's back before the fight, then spends the entire first round shaking his head and smiling and taunting, while completely running away from the beast that is Johnny Case. The only thing he landed so far (1 round completed) is an eye poke!
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    Trevino is a joke. He does his little whip to Johnny's back before the fight, then spends the entire first round shaking his head and smiling and taunting, while completely running away from the beast that is Johnny Case. The only thing he landed so far (1 round completed) is an eye poke!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2015 - 8:38 PM ET #24

    Disappointing card so far with no finishes on 3 fights. Not sure that will change in this fight. Williams is a D1 wrestler who averages 4 takedowns per 15 min fight against Alejandro who has virtually no takedown defense. I'm hoping Patrick puts his striking on display. It's not overly technical, but he throws with power and is great at following up strikes with takedowns.
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    Disappointing card so far with no finishes on 3 fights. Not sure that will change in this fight. Williams is a D1 wrestler who averages 4 takedowns per 15 min fight against Alejandro who has virtually no takedown defense. I'm hoping Patrick puts his striking on display. It's not overly technical, but he throws with power and is great at following up strikes with takedowns.
     
     
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    WooHoo! Incredible finish. Exactly what I expected. Alejandro is a fraud and he stole his last win on TUF finale from Quinonez. 
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    WooHoo! Incredible finish. Exactly what I expected. Alejandro is a fraud and he stole his last win on TUF finale from Quinonez. 
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