the city runs the sports world...
1st - They don't know who is going to win. The spread is designed to make the game even. Books don't rely on 1 game where everyone is betting on one side. They rely on thousands and thousands of games where overtime 90% of sports bettors will lose because of bad money management and inability to pick games.
2nd - I would say offshore makes up for much much MUCH more of the action.
just my .02
the city runs the sports world...
1st - They don't know who is going to win. The spread is designed to make the game even. Books don't rely on 1 game where everyone is betting on one side. They rely on thousands and thousands of games where overtime 90% of sports bettors will lose because of bad money management and inability to pick games.
2nd - I would say offshore makes up for much much MUCH more of the action.
just my .02
the city runs the sports world...
1st - They don't know who is going to win. The spread is designed to make the game even. Books don't rely on 1 game where everyone is betting on one side. They rely on thousands and thousands of games where overtime 90% of sports bettors will lose because of bad money management and inability to pick games.
2nd - I would say offshore makes up for much much MUCH more of the action.
just my .02
Buddy you are one of the smartest man on this website, i guess outside the ones who people actually pay to get their picks from.
Vegas Sports Gambling is not done by Mr. Rothstein ( sorry americans but vegas is not like casino anymore)
Many odds makers have Actuarial Science degrees.and just like blackjack and every other game that takes probabiity into factor they are the first ones to be hired for sports gambling....
After that it is all on us shmos who think they have a "system" or "process" .... to either bet the right winner or go down in flames like mostly everyone does.....
Its said that people use this site for information because there are more idiots on this site than I have ever seen....There 60 year old man who are degenerate gamblers who come on here and fill younger americans with bets that flop because they do not know the science in this.....
Oh and when people talk about vegas they are fuckin stupid.... look at the odds of just one game like the OKLAHOMA/TEXAS GAME
LV Hilton -3.5 Stations -4 MGM -3.5 Caesars -4
They are different because all the hotels use their own actuarial science guys..... Pinnacle????? seriously?????
Sportsbook, Bodog, Beted, Sportsbetting, moneybooks, fuckin any of them are off-shore and go off of one of these hotels.....
Of course there are variables within a game and of course they miss plenty. You are the probably the same guy who looked at the Indi/Houston box score week 1 with a total of 58 and said, "wow that flew over!" without realizing the game was a foot away from going under the total of 47.
I've won and lost enough NBA totals to know how tight the lines can be there. Are they occasionally way off? Yup, but more often than not they are spot on.
See...guys like you, like to think you are on an equal playing field with the books and that sportsbetting is 100% based on talent and the other variables between the lines. That's fine. Keep up that narcissistic thinking.
You think Houston vs Oakland this week is a line to draw equal action? FIne put your money on Houston and come back here Sunday Night and complain how you "got moosed." It humors me every week when it happens...
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Please never leave this site
this site needs you so not everyone loses their money so fast!!!!
Finally someone is actually smart and does their research
I had a guy on a post talk about how he was goin to win his money back and blah blah
his stats read he was a 70% loser..... now why r u on this site giving people advice if you lose 7 out of 10 times..... fuckin morons!!!!!
Of course there are variables within a game and of course they miss plenty. You are the probably the same guy who looked at the Indi/Houston box score week 1 with a total of 58 and said, "wow that flew over!" without realizing the game was a foot away from going under the total of 47.
I've won and lost enough NBA totals to know how tight the lines can be there. Are they occasionally way off? Yup, but more often than not they are spot on.
See...guys like you, like to think you are on an equal playing field with the books and that sportsbetting is 100% based on talent and the other variables between the lines. That's fine. Keep up that narcissistic thinking.
You think Houston vs Oakland this week is a line to draw equal action? FIne put your money on Houston and come back here Sunday Night and complain how you "got moosed." It humors me every week when it happens...
What do you mean offshore makes up most of the action. Im a member at bookmaker and betjam which are (along with thier brother and sister books) the only two I have not seen frequently crapped on in the industry section on here. And bm calls me 2x a week wanting me to deposit 50-100 bucks, Ive never played big with them.
How the hell is that a lot of the action? My roomate talks about wanting to start betting, I wont refer him to a good book b/c Ive had accounts with them and if I want to reupp and start betting with them again I cant have someone else logging into a different account from my home. The only other good one I havent heard loads of smack talked about is Pinny and they dont take US players and I played with them back in the day.
Now locals might on the whole in the USA have a bigger handle than the Vegas books combined but if you think theres more being wagered online your wrong, if there was BM wouldnt call me so much looking for a 100 buck deposit even though I am a small ass fish to them.
And this is no me talking smack about those books I love them both, I also like Intertops they have paid me back in the day thats a nice little one to have some money in even if they dont have the perks and I dont think they are linked to another book.
(I love BM I just dont want to put in 25 or 50 b/c it will distract me from my real gambling with my dudes, Illl throw a grand in with them and Bet Jam when I can afford to so I can line shop a little and bet first and second halfs which I cant do with my locals).
You think I would ever deposit a cent with a place where I have heard more than 1 person on here complain about???
the city runs the sports world...
1st - They don't know who is going to win. The spread is designed to make the game even. Books don't rely on 1 game where everyone is betting on one side. They rely on thousands and thousands of games where overtime 90% of sports bettors will lose because of bad money management and inability to pick games.
2nd - I would say offshore makes up for much much MUCH more of the action.
just my .02
Buddy you are one of the smartest man on this website, i guess outside the ones who people actually pay to get their picks from.
Vegas Sports Gambling is not done by Mr. Rothstein ( sorry americans but vegas is not like casino anymore)
Many odds makers have Actuarial Science degrees.and just like blackjack and every other game that takes probabiity into factor they are the first ones to be hired for sports gambling....
After that it is all on us shmos who think they have a "system" or "process" .... to either bet the right winner or go down in flames like mostly everyone does.....
Its said that people use this site for information because there are more idiots on this site than I have ever seen....There 60 year old man who are degenerate gamblers who come on here and fill younger americans with bets that flop because they do not know the science in this.....
Oh and when people talk about vegas they are fuckin stupid.... look at the odds of just one game like the OKLAHOMA/TEXAS GAME
LV Hilton -3.5 Stations -4 MGM -3.5 Caesars -4
They are different because all the hotels use their own actuarial science guys..... Pinnacle????? seriously?????
Sportsbook, Bodog, Beted, Sportsbetting, moneybooks, fuckin any of them are off-shore and go off of one of these hotels.....
What do you mean offshore makes up most of the action. Im a member at bookmaker and betjam which are (along with thier brother and sister books) the only two I have not seen frequently crapped on in the industry section on here. And bm calls me 2x a week wanting me to deposit 50-100 bucks, Ive never played big with them.
How the hell is that a lot of the action? My roomate talks about wanting to start betting, I wont refer him to a good book b/c Ive had accounts with them and if I want to reupp and start betting with them again I cant have someone else logging into a different account from my home. The only other good one I havent heard loads of smack talked about is Pinny and they dont take US players and I played with them back in the day.
Now locals might on the whole in the USA have a bigger handle than the Vegas books combined but if you think theres more being wagered online your wrong, if there was BM wouldnt call me so much looking for a 100 buck deposit even though I am a small ass fish to them.
And this is no me talking smack about those books I love them both, I also like Intertops they have paid me back in the day thats a nice little one to have some money in even if they dont have the perks and I dont think they are linked to another book.
(I love BM I just dont want to put in 25 or 50 b/c it will distract me from my real gambling with my dudes, Illl throw a grand in with them and Bet Jam when I can afford to so I can line shop a little and bet first and second halfs which I cant do with my locals).
You think I would ever deposit a cent with a place where I have heard more than 1 person on here complain about???
Of course there are variables within a game and of course they miss plenty. You are the probably the same guy who looked at the Indi/Houston box score week 1 with a total of 58 and said, "wow that flew over!" without realizing the game was a foot away from going under the total of 47.
I've won and lost enough NBA totals to know how tight the lines can be there. Are they occasionally way off? Yup, but more often than not they are spot on.
See...guys like you, like to think you are on an equal playing field with the books and that sportsbetting is 100% based on talent and the other variables between the lines. That's fine. Keep up that narcissistic thinking.
You think Houston vs Oakland this week is a line to draw equal action? FIne put your money on Houston and come back here Sunday Night and complain how you "got moosed." It humors me every week when it happens...
Yup. Vegas is always willing to take the chance of th epublic getting smoked on these. VEgas rarely gets their clocks cleaned. The one instance I can think of is last year when the Pats played in London and smoked Tampa and Indy covered too, and they were all crying in gaming today that they were a week from going out of buisiness.
You don't think someone from somewhere could have slipped Ricky Dobbs of Navy who has no chance of going to the NFL 50k to fumble on the 1 yard line twice and make sure they dont cover on the Sunday before NFL starts and everyone is going to be taking the Naval Academy?
Obviously most of the time the line makers are happy to let the games themselves played out but they are a buisiness who must protect themselves and they will take any opportunity possible to screw the public.
Its tougher for them to do in the Pros, this week Vegas needed Ryan Fitzpatric to be motivated to cover against the Pats, they could have gotten crushed on that game but didnt and raked it in. In college they ccan protect themselves easier in similar games, (epsecially basketball) the Navy and Dobbs is a good example, another would be last years SDST-Air Force game if anyone remembers that Im sure the secondary for Air Force were influenced by someone.
People are smartening up, why do you tihnk reverse line movement is the new line movement?
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No you are just a moron..... vegas is not vegas, vegas is a city which holds casinos.... if you go to the MGM and ask what the spread for the OU/TEXAS game they will say -3.5 and then walk across to the Paris and they will have it at -4....
Sorry buddy but if pinnacle was the end all be all of sports gambling they would have more than just a shitty website..... look at current odds for the OU/TEXAS game.... there might be 4 vegas hotels that have it at -4 and another 5 that have it at -3.5.... sorry but they are not looking at pinnacle and asking " so what should i do boss?"
Yup. Vegas is always willing to take the chance of th epublic getting smoked on these. VEgas rarely gets their clocks cleaned. The one instance I can think of is last year when the Pats played in London and smoked Tampa and Indy covered too, and they were all crying in gaming today that they were a week from going out of buisiness.
You don't think someone from somewhere could have slipped Ricky Dobbs of Navy who has no chance of going to the NFL 50k to fumble on the 1 yard line twice and make sure they dont cover on the Sunday before NFL starts and everyone is going to be taking the Naval Academy?
Obviously most of the time the line makers are happy to let the games themselves played out but they are a buisiness who must protect themselves and they will take any opportunity possible to screw the public.
Its tougher for them to do in the Pros, this week Vegas needed Ryan Fitzpatric to be motivated to cover against the Pats, they could have gotten crushed on that game if someone on the Pats picked him on his last TD drive but didnt and raked it in. In college they ccan protect themselves easier in similar games, (epsecially basketball) the Navy and Dobbs is a good example, another would be last years SDST-Air Force game if anyone remembers that Im sure the secondary for Air Force were influenced by someone.
People are smartening up, why do you tihnk reverse line movement is the new line movement?
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