The title says it all. Vegas lines are just simply horrible! Sportsbooks will try to rip you off on every aspect of betting; every Book and every Sports. The options are also very limited (no Live, no buying points except American Football, no props, not enough Soccer (Football), list goes on and on). Some of the representatives at the wager counter can be incompetent at times. You have to verbally state everything with accuracy. Not that it's a problem but it is a hassle, even then these reps. can and will get your wager wrong.
If you're thinking about going to Vegas to wager Professionally, I would urge you to think twice. Offshore/online books are soo much better with more options and more sports than Vegas can ever offer. Online also have decent size wager limit. Take my word, Online books can destroy Vegas books with just a stare.
Take frequent trips to Vegas if you have year round Vegas fever. It's only good for vacation. Even then, the sometimes-ignorant Tourist crowd can be questionable.
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The title says it all. Vegas lines are just simply horrible! Sportsbooks will try to rip you off on every aspect of betting; every Book and every Sports. The options are also very limited (no Live, no buying points except American Football, no props, not enough Soccer (Football), list goes on and on). Some of the representatives at the wager counter can be incompetent at times. You have to verbally state everything with accuracy. Not that it's a problem but it is a hassle, even then these reps. can and will get your wager wrong.
If you're thinking about going to Vegas to wager Professionally, I would urge you to think twice. Offshore/online books are soo much better with more options and more sports than Vegas can ever offer. Online also have decent size wager limit. Take my word, Online books can destroy Vegas books with just a stare.
Take frequent trips to Vegas if you have year round Vegas fever. It's only good for vacation. Even then, the sometimes-ignorant Tourist crowd can be questionable.
The title says it all. Vegas lines are just simply horrible! Sportsbooks will try to rip you off on every aspect of betting; every Book and every Sports. The options are also very limited (no Live, no buying points except American Football, no props, not enough Soccer (Football), list goes on and on). Some of the representatives at the wager counter can be incompetent at times. You have to verbally state everything with accuracy. Not that it's a problem but it is a hassle, even then these reps. can and will get your wager wrong.
If you're thinking about going to Vegas to wager Professionally, I would urge you to think twice. Offshore/online books are soo much better with more options and more sports than Vegas can ever offer. Online also have decent size wager limit. Take my word,
Take frequent trips to Vegas if you have year round Vegas fever. It's only good for vacation. Even then, the sometimes-ignorant Tourist crowd can be questionable.
You sound like a tout for Offshore/online sportbooks. Your commentary is totally 'off the grid' and senseless. this is an open forum where opinions,criticism and information are exclusive to LV. Your comparisons are neither justified, nor are they even remotely connected to the realities of a Las Vega SportsBook (frankly speaking, bettors in LV could give a rats azz about a cricket match in Pakistan, and posting it on the board, or a division ll soccer match in Bulgaria) the rest is nothing but Bullshitt; it's clear you most likely have never been inside a LV sportsbook, nor have you ever been to Las Vegas, based on your ridiculous commentary that borderlines on the ludicrous. here's my opinion, based upon the facts, and my career in the industry;
Las Vegas SportBooks are #1 worldwide, second to none. with a commitment to excellence, providing the highest level of professionalism to the sports bettor (The 'Mirage' is an example of 1/64
now go collect your winnings from the wager you made online 3 days ago, it will only take another week to collect, and transfer....
a lame from Europetotally clueless
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:
The title says it all. Vegas lines are just simply horrible! Sportsbooks will try to rip you off on every aspect of betting; every Book and every Sports. The options are also very limited (no Live, no buying points except American Football, no props, not enough Soccer (Football), list goes on and on). Some of the representatives at the wager counter can be incompetent at times. You have to verbally state everything with accuracy. Not that it's a problem but it is a hassle, even then these reps. can and will get your wager wrong.
If you're thinking about going to Vegas to wager Professionally, I would urge you to think twice. Offshore/online books are soo much better with more options and more sports than Vegas can ever offer. Online also have decent size wager limit. Take my word,
Take frequent trips to Vegas if you have year round Vegas fever. It's only good for vacation. Even then, the sometimes-ignorant Tourist crowd can be questionable.
You sound like a tout for Offshore/online sportbooks. Your commentary is totally 'off the grid' and senseless. this is an open forum where opinions,criticism and information are exclusive to LV. Your comparisons are neither justified, nor are they even remotely connected to the realities of a Las Vega SportsBook (frankly speaking, bettors in LV could give a rats azz about a cricket match in Pakistan, and posting it on the board, or a division ll soccer match in Bulgaria) the rest is nothing but Bullshitt; it's clear you most likely have never been inside a LV sportsbook, nor have you ever been to Las Vegas, based on your ridiculous commentary that borderlines on the ludicrous. here's my opinion, based upon the facts, and my career in the industry;
Las Vegas SportBooks are #1 worldwide, second to none. with a commitment to excellence, providing the highest level of professionalism to the sports bettor (The 'Mirage' is an example of 1/64
now go collect your winnings from the wager you made online 3 days ago, it will only take another week to collect, and transfer....
there is nothing like a Vegas Book, Nothing like it in the world,
As to live betting and in game betting Last I checked all the cantor books have that and GTECH struck a deal with MGM Resorts in February to have online and live betting by September
What if i like the other side of the games you like?
Then the lines are perfect for me.
unless the lines differ by a point or 2 on every game then that is an immature statement.
Reason why I love Vegas Books as opposed to offshore
1) I know im getting paid immediately following the game if I wish to collect then.
Offshore, you get the run around and worse you are limited to how much you can withdraw.
2) I get to watch every game played
that equals 2nd half or live betting/ingame betting opportunities I may have missed watching at home or a sports bar with limited TVs
3) the air is electric in a sportsbook
you are sitting there with other know it all gamblers who are taking there shot and having the time of their lives or reliving their horrific bad beats.
4) when the games are over You can take a cab ride or a drive to wine and dine at restaurants owned by celebrity chefs or even Michelin star rated Chefs.
Yeah, I think Ill stick to Vegas and have a blast twice a year
October 15 thru the 20th
and then again divisional round of the playoffs and National championship game January 8 thru 12th
Completely agree Sports Network,
there is nothing like a Vegas Book, Nothing like it in the world,
As to live betting and in game betting Last I checked all the cantor books have that and GTECH struck a deal with MGM Resorts in February to have online and live betting by September
What if i like the other side of the games you like?
Then the lines are perfect for me.
unless the lines differ by a point or 2 on every game then that is an immature statement.
Reason why I love Vegas Books as opposed to offshore
1) I know im getting paid immediately following the game if I wish to collect then.
Offshore, you get the run around and worse you are limited to how much you can withdraw.
2) I get to watch every game played
that equals 2nd half or live betting/ingame betting opportunities I may have missed watching at home or a sports bar with limited TVs
3) the air is electric in a sportsbook
you are sitting there with other know it all gamblers who are taking there shot and having the time of their lives or reliving their horrific bad beats.
4) when the games are over You can take a cab ride or a drive to wine and dine at restaurants owned by celebrity chefs or even Michelin star rated Chefs.
Yeah, I think Ill stick to Vegas and have a blast twice a year
October 15 thru the 20th
and then again divisional round of the playoffs and National championship game January 8 thru 12th
Good points. I always check lines online when I am in vegas before I make a bet in a book. Many times, the lines are better in Vegas. In fact, when a line starts to move online, it lags in Vegas. For example last year there was a football total that I liked. I saw online that it moved to 44.5 from 42 in the course of the last couple hours. I went into the sportsbook and it was still at 42, albeit at -120. I still played the over. The game ended up scoring 44 points.
Lines move slower in Vegas than online, and that is something you can take advantage of.
Good points. I always check lines online when I am in vegas before I make a bet in a book. Many times, the lines are better in Vegas. In fact, when a line starts to move online, it lags in Vegas. For example last year there was a football total that I liked. I saw online that it moved to 44.5 from 42 in the course of the last couple hours. I went into the sportsbook and it was still at 42, albeit at -120. I still played the over. The game ended up scoring 44 points.
Lines move slower in Vegas than online, and that is something you can take advantage of.
Sports Network... Sounds to me like YOU ARE the Tout for Vegas sportsbooks. The Mirage?? Pleassse! because that Book is still counting numbers in their head to put in "To Win" wager amount. The older lady with the glasses from there messed up my buddy's wager so bad by counting and calculating in her head and picked a different line. He didn't have a time to check it because some old guy was riding up on him to put in his $20 losing horse wager. When he confronted the Manager about it... Well, he only got a free buffet ticket because the game was already in progress.
Out of date, over priced lines and skimping out on Totals.
Which one of the Manager are you, bud?
As for me.... I'm in no way affiliated with any Offshore Books. If you read my initial post, I did not specifically mention any Books. I just generalized it. Yes, Online Books are far better than greedier useless books.
Sports Network... Sounds to me like YOU ARE the Tout for Vegas sportsbooks. The Mirage?? Pleassse! because that Book is still counting numbers in their head to put in "To Win" wager amount. The older lady with the glasses from there messed up my buddy's wager so bad by counting and calculating in her head and picked a different line. He didn't have a time to check it because some old guy was riding up on him to put in his $20 losing horse wager. When he confronted the Manager about it... Well, he only got a free buffet ticket because the game was already in progress.
Out of date, over priced lines and skimping out on Totals.
Which one of the Manager are you, bud?
As for me.... I'm in no way affiliated with any Offshore Books. If you read my initial post, I did not specifically mention any Books. I just generalized it. Yes, Online Books are far better than greedier useless books.
Mafioso... I guess you're doing one thing right. You're doing the right thing by only feeding into your Vegas fever and going there only twice a year. If you tell me you don't have an Online Book that you frequently wager on, I know you're just lying your teeth off.
I agree about the Sportbook environment and how it's full of live around the game time. But those "know-it-all" you described are life long losers who are donating their pension money to Vegas.
You're THAT Tourist twice a year. That's it.
Mafioso... I guess you're doing one thing right. You're doing the right thing by only feeding into your Vegas fever and going there only twice a year. If you tell me you don't have an Online Book that you frequently wager on, I know you're just lying your teeth off.
I agree about the Sportbook environment and how it's full of live around the game time. But those "know-it-all" you described are life long losers who are donating their pension money to Vegas.
Mafioso... I guess you're doing one thing right. You're doing the right thing by only feeding into your Vegas fever and going there only twice a year. If you tell me you don't have an Online Book that you frequently wager on, I know you're just lying your teeth off.
I agree about the Sportbook environment and how it's full of live around the game time. But those "know-it-all" you described are life long losers who are donating their pension money to Vegas.
You're THAT Tourist twice a year. That's it.
Chill out bra, everybody is a lifelong loser if they bet sports. It's just a matter if you lose a little or you are a degen and lose your life savings. Nobody beats the vig long run.
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:
Mafioso... I guess you're doing one thing right. You're doing the right thing by only feeding into your Vegas fever and going there only twice a year. If you tell me you don't have an Online Book that you frequently wager on, I know you're just lying your teeth off.
I agree about the Sportbook environment and how it's full of live around the game time. But those "know-it-all" you described are life long losers who are donating their pension money to Vegas.
You're THAT Tourist twice a year. That's it.
Chill out bra, everybody is a lifelong loser if they bet sports. It's just a matter if you lose a little or you are a degen and lose your life savings. Nobody beats the vig long run.
Guys... What I'm trying to get at here is that Vegas has horrific Spread Money and Total lines. I'm completely serious. Yes, I did make a comparison with online books. But that doesn't mean I'm a Tout or promoting any Online book in particular.
However, these guys above are defending Vegas books as if their lives depend on it and promoting books and other things. They have also made personal attacks towards me along the way so I had to defend my initial post.
Vegas is a chaos and their lines are horrific. And the representatives at the counter can be rude or incompetent. I cannot stress that enough. Good for vacation and occasional wager here and there to check out the scene. But if you want to make good money with far better lines and options for wagering... Then online books are the way to go. Please take my word on it.
Guys... What I'm trying to get at here is that Vegas has horrific Spread Money and Total lines. I'm completely serious. Yes, I did make a comparison with online books. But that doesn't mean I'm a Tout or promoting any Online book in particular.
However, these guys above are defending Vegas books as if their lives depend on it and promoting books and other things. They have also made personal attacks towards me along the way so I had to defend my initial post.
Vegas is a chaos and their lines are horrific. And the representatives at the counter can be rude or incompetent. I cannot stress that enough. Good for vacation and occasional wager here and there to check out the scene. But if you want to make good money with far better lines and options for wagering... Then online books are the way to go. Please take my word on it.
Chill out bra, everybody is a lifelong loser if they bet sports. It's just a matter if you lose a little or you are a degen and lose your life savings. Nobody beats the vig long run.
speak for yourself......
Quote Originally Posted by Bling:
Chill out bra, everybody is a lifelong loser if they bet sports. It's just a matter if you lose a little or you are a degen and lose your life savings. Nobody beats the vig long run.
Any way, Badboy has some more good points about Vegas books. I just bumped a thread from my horrible Cantor Venitien Sportsbook experience from a couple football seasons ago. Check it out.
I forgot, everybody on Covers is a winner.
Any way, Badboy has some more good points about Vegas books. I just bumped a thread from my horrible Cantor Venitien Sportsbook experience from a couple football seasons ago. Check it out.
Mafioso... Yes, the line is different by 1 or 2 points, sometimes more in NBA & WNBA. The final score always come out way off than their lines.
If they are shading the line 2 points one way a sharp capper would know how to take advantage of that and find value on the other side. You act like because the team you like isnt getting the line you want then it's a bad line. What about the guy playing the other team against you? He's like, hell ya I love Vegas lines! Maybe Vegas has more squares to worry about so they shade their lines harder to square plays.
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:
Mafioso... Yes, the line is different by 1 or 2 points, sometimes more in NBA & WNBA. The final score always come out way off than their lines.
If they are shading the line 2 points one way a sharp capper would know how to take advantage of that and find value on the other side. You act like because the team you like isnt getting the line you want then it's a bad line. What about the guy playing the other team against you? He's like, hell ya I love Vegas lines! Maybe Vegas has more squares to worry about so they shade their lines harder to square plays.
Any way, Badboy has some more good points about Vegas books. I just bumped a thread from my horrible Cantor Venitien Sportsbook experience from a couple football seasons ago. Check it out.
Venetian is horrible! You got this bald chubby representative who acts like a tough guy and doesn't want to leave his street personality on the street. And you got incompetent push over management with slacker crew who are always hanging/hiding out in the back. CG technology?? Yea right!
One good thing about Venetian is their TV screen. That's it.
Quote Originally Posted by Bling:
I forgot, everybody on Covers is a winner.
Any way, Badboy has some more good points about Vegas books. I just bumped a thread from my horrible Cantor Venitien Sportsbook experience from a couple football seasons ago. Check it out.
Venetian is horrible! You got this bald chubby representative who acts like a tough guy and doesn't want to leave his street personality on the street. And you got incompetent push over management with slacker crew who are always hanging/hiding out in the back. CG technology?? Yea right!
One good thing about Venetian is their TV screen. That's it.
If they are shading the line 2 points one way a sharp capper would know how to take advantage of that and find value on the other side. You act like because the team you like isnt getting the line you want then it's a bad line. What about the guy playing the other team against you? He's like, hell ya I love Vegas lines! Maybe Vegas has more squares to worry about so they shade their lines harder to square plays.
Most of the time my picks win when the lines are way off like that. But it's Basketball, bud. Games can be won and lost by missed and made free-throws. You want to get the best line possible and Vegas skimp them out like no other. Vegas just simply lack of value and courage.
Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:
If they are shading the line 2 points one way a sharp capper would know how to take advantage of that and find value on the other side. You act like because the team you like isnt getting the line you want then it's a bad line. What about the guy playing the other team against you? He's like, hell ya I love Vegas lines! Maybe Vegas has more squares to worry about so they shade their lines harder to square plays.
Most of the time my picks win when the lines are way off like that. But it's Basketball, bud. Games can be won and lost by missed and made free-throws. You want to get the best line possible and Vegas skimp them out like no other. Vegas just simply lack of value and courage.
I guess there aren't anymore comments on Vegas and how horrible the lines are there. Vegas your grand pappy once knew is GONE! It's filled with tourism filth with zombies walking endlessly to no where! Don't believe me? Go there and find out. Make sure to hang out with slot players and buffet munchers for me.
I'm gonna finish what I started when I first came in here. I'm gonna post majority of my plays on here. You guys will be begging for my picks. I cap every sports if I see fit. I get lines better than Vegas and I'm gonna show you guys who the real picaddily winner is.
I guess there aren't anymore comments on Vegas and how horrible the lines are there. Vegas your grand pappy once knew is GONE! It's filled with tourism filth with zombies walking endlessly to no where! Don't believe me? Go there and find out. Make sure to hang out with slot players and buffet munchers for me.
I'm gonna finish what I started when I first came in here. I'm gonna post majority of my plays on here. You guys will be begging for my picks. I cap every sports if I see fit. I get lines better than Vegas and I'm gonna show you guys who the real picaddily winner is.
I guess there aren't anymore comments on Vegas and how horrible the lines are there. Vegas your grand pappy once knew is GONE! It's filled with tourism filth with zombies walking endlessly to no where! Don't believe me? Go there and find out. Make sure to hang out with slot players and buffet munchers for me.
I'm gonna finish what I started when I first came in here. I'm gonna post majority of my plays on here. You guys will be begging for my picks. I cap every sports if I see fit. I get lines better than Vegas and I'm gonna show you guys who the real picaddily winner is.
Dude, dont be so full of yourself.
Most of us here bet our own games, We beg no one for their picks.
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:
I guess there aren't anymore comments on Vegas and how horrible the lines are there. Vegas your grand pappy once knew is GONE! It's filled with tourism filth with zombies walking endlessly to no where! Don't believe me? Go there and find out. Make sure to hang out with slot players and buffet munchers for me.
I'm gonna finish what I started when I first came in here. I'm gonna post majority of my plays on here. You guys will be begging for my picks. I cap every sports if I see fit. I get lines better than Vegas and I'm gonna show you guys who the real picaddily winner is.
Dude, dont be so full of yourself.
Most of us here bet our own games, We beg no one for their picks.
WHY on earth would you post 'picks' in the Las Vegas forum??? Covers has a forum for each sport, and this is not one of them! what's wrong, not getting enough attention? or are you seeking unwarranted recognition? Whatever... do as you please, post all the picks your heart desires, you may last 3 or 4 days max before you vanish with embarrasment (I've read hundreds of threads like this, nothing new, but this is a first for TLVF) the best to you always, may you prosper in your quest to become "the real picadilly winner" whatever the fukc that is suppose to mean;;BTW have you ever even been to LV? (what hotel?) have you ever placed a bet in a LV SportsBook? (which one?) I seriously believe your doing nothing more than blowing smoke out your azz, and talking degenerated shitt on the way..your IP# shows your broadcasting from Europe, your attitude shows your extremely mis-informed....Zombies? Slot Players? Buffet Munchers? (what the fukc are you talking about) what era are you living in?
WHY on earth would you post 'picks' in the Las Vegas forum??? Covers has a forum for each sport, and this is not one of them! what's wrong, not getting enough attention? or are you seeking unwarranted recognition? Whatever... do as you please, post all the picks your heart desires, you may last 3 or 4 days max before you vanish with embarrasment (I've read hundreds of threads like this, nothing new, but this is a first for TLVF) the best to you always, may you prosper in your quest to become "the real picadilly winner" whatever the fukc that is suppose to mean;;BTW have you ever even been to LV? (what hotel?) have you ever placed a bet in a LV SportsBook? (which one?) I seriously believe your doing nothing more than blowing smoke out your azz, and talking degenerated shitt on the way..your IP# shows your broadcasting from Europe, your attitude shows your extremely mis-informed....Zombies? Slot Players? Buffet Munchers? (what the fukc are you talking about) what era are you living in?
WHY on earth would you post 'picks' in the Las Vegas forum??? Covers has a forum for each sport, and this is not one of them! what's wrong, not getting enough attention? or are you seeking unwarranted recognition? Whatever... do as you please, post all the picks your heart desires, you may last 3 or 4 days max before you vanish with embarrasment (I've read hundreds of threads like this, nothing new, but this is a first for TLVF) the best to you always, may you prosper in your quest to become "the real picadilly winner" whatever the fukc that is suppose to mean;;BTW have you ever even been to LV? (what hotel?) have you ever placed a bet in a LV SportsBook? (which one?) I seriously believe your doing nothing more than blowing smoke out your azz, and talking degenerated shitt on the way..your IP# shows your broadcasting from Europe, your attitude shows your extremely mis-informed....Zombies? Slot Players? Buffet Munchers? (what the fukc are you talking about) what era are you living in?
Im not surprised you showed up. You seem to pay attention and recognize me. I guess you're a defender of Vegas. Well... Defenders always surrender and bend over backwards on the wagering counter while calculating "To Win" amount wager in their head only to give out wrong amount on the ticket.
Folks, Vegas is all FORM with NO SUBSTANCE. Much similar to that of clean cut guys in nice suit and stiffed up neck-ties. They know nothing. Vegas is over priced with greed and hectic with local tourism. Don't not go to Vegas or wager in rip-off sportsbooks. You will regret it with a hangover the next day.
Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:
WHY on earth would you post 'picks' in the Las Vegas forum??? Covers has a forum for each sport, and this is not one of them! what's wrong, not getting enough attention? or are you seeking unwarranted recognition? Whatever... do as you please, post all the picks your heart desires, you may last 3 or 4 days max before you vanish with embarrasment (I've read hundreds of threads like this, nothing new, but this is a first for TLVF) the best to you always, may you prosper in your quest to become "the real picadilly winner" whatever the fukc that is suppose to mean;;BTW have you ever even been to LV? (what hotel?) have you ever placed a bet in a LV SportsBook? (which one?) I seriously believe your doing nothing more than blowing smoke out your azz, and talking degenerated shitt on the way..your IP# shows your broadcasting from Europe, your attitude shows your extremely mis-informed....Zombies? Slot Players? Buffet Munchers? (what the fukc are you talking about) what era are you living in?
Im not surprised you showed up. You seem to pay attention and recognize me. I guess you're a defender of Vegas. Well... Defenders always surrender and bend over backwards on the wagering counter while calculating "To Win" amount wager in their head only to give out wrong amount on the ticket.
Folks, Vegas is all FORM with NO SUBSTANCE. Much similar to that of clean cut guys in nice suit and stiffed up neck-ties. They know nothing. Vegas is over priced with greed and hectic with local tourism. Don't not go to Vegas or wager in rip-off sportsbooks. You will regret it with a hangover the next day.
Dude, you are an absolute imbecile. Keep trusting the offshore game and get burned hard one day. Vegas, that's not even in the thought process. Post a bad line somehow by mistake and they eat it. As opposed to the silly offshore game where they rule it no action. Also Vegas cannot profile you If you bet more dogs than favorites or unders than overs. Vegas doesn't adjust the lines accoding to your play. I remember years ago. When you were still swimming in your dad's nut sack. A place called grand central sports offshore book Gave me a total of 194.5 for an nba game and gave a friend of mine a line of 197.5 He liked to bet overs. I loved unders. Bam we caught them and posted our findings at bettorsworld that was one of the very few forums back then.
Point is betting God lol Vegas can not and does not profile you. Yes I have an offshore account but Vegas is and always will be king as my comfort level of getting paid and not ripped off makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. So your argument is dead right there. Let this thread die like your money will for sure when something goes wrong in your offshore world.
Dude, you are an absolute imbecile. Keep trusting the offshore game and get burned hard one day. Vegas, that's not even in the thought process. Post a bad line somehow by mistake and they eat it. As opposed to the silly offshore game where they rule it no action. Also Vegas cannot profile you If you bet more dogs than favorites or unders than overs. Vegas doesn't adjust the lines accoding to your play. I remember years ago. When you were still swimming in your dad's nut sack. A place called grand central sports offshore book Gave me a total of 194.5 for an nba game and gave a friend of mine a line of 197.5 He liked to bet overs. I loved unders. Bam we caught them and posted our findings at bettorsworld that was one of the very few forums back then.
Point is betting God lol Vegas can not and does not profile you. Yes I have an offshore account but Vegas is and always will be king as my comfort level of getting paid and not ripped off makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. So your argument is dead right there. Let this thread die like your money will for sure when something goes wrong in your offshore world.
is an example of 1/64 
totally clueless
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