Thanks
I need Vegas advice...
- Is there anyway to get comped before the action?
- Do you know of any cheap flight deals or packages that ends up being cheaper?
- Does the $20 credit card sandwich work?
- Where can you drink for free in the sportsbook?
- Where are the good but cheap buffets?
- Where are the good restaurants with good steak and wine?
- Any good shows I should take in? Musicals? Comedy Clubs? Anyway to get tickets at a good price?
- What do you guys say about strip clubs/hookers? Worth it or not?
Let me know if I should keep going or if you get my drift now...
- Is there anyway to get comped before the action?
- Do you know of any cheap flight deals or packages that ends up being cheaper?
- Does the $20 credit card sandwich work?
- Where can you drink for free in the sportsbook?
- Where are the good but cheap buffets?
- Where are the good restaurants with good steak and wine?
- Any good shows I should take in? Musicals? Comedy Clubs? Anyway to get tickets at a good price?
- What do you guys say about strip clubs/hookers? Worth it or not?
Let me know if I should keep going or if you get my drift now...
I'm not trying to be a dick, but please read through the forum postings a little bit. Just reading the first 3-4 pages should answer at least 3/4 of those questions.
Everybody around here is happy to help, but give us a little effort too. If there's something that's not quite covered or you're not sure about then, please ask.
I know there are flight posts, $20 trick posts, drinks/sportsbook posts, good restaurant posts, show/ticket posts, and strip clubs posts.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but please read through the forum postings a little bit. Just reading the first 3-4 pages should answer at least 3/4 of those questions.
Everybody around here is happy to help, but give us a little effort too. If there's something that's not quite covered or you're not sure about then, please ask.
I know there are flight posts, $20 trick posts, drinks/sportsbook posts, good restaurant posts, show/ticket posts, and strip clubs posts.
I don't know how I could be anymore clear...? But I'll lay it out more specifically:
- Is there anyway to get comped before the action?
- Do you know of any cheap flight deals or packages that ends up being cheaper?
- Does the $20 credit card sandwich work?
- Where can you drink for free in the sportsbook?
- Where are the good but cheap buffets? Try The Orleans or one of the Station Casinos Monday thru Saturday. Sundays are usually quite a bit more for brunch.
- Where are the good restaurants with good steak and wine?
- Any good shows I should take in? Musicals? Comedy Clubs? Anyway to get tickets at a good price?
- What do you guys say about strip clubs/hookers? Worth it or not?
Let me know if I should keep going or if you get my drift now...
Here is a link for some values:
I don't know how I could be anymore clear...? But I'll lay it out more specifically:
- Is there anyway to get comped before the action?
- Do you know of any cheap flight deals or packages that ends up being cheaper?
- Does the $20 credit card sandwich work?
- Where can you drink for free in the sportsbook?
- Where are the good but cheap buffets? Try The Orleans or one of the Station Casinos Monday thru Saturday. Sundays are usually quite a bit more for brunch.
- Where are the good restaurants with good steak and wine?
- Any good shows I should take in? Musicals? Comedy Clubs? Anyway to get tickets at a good price?
- What do you guys say about strip clubs/hookers? Worth it or not?
Let me know if I should keep going or if you get my drift now...
Here is a link for some values:
I'm assuming you are in Ontario. If you fly out of London or Toronto, check out Westjet. If you are close to the MI border, take Allegiant out of Grand Rapids.
Stay at an IP, Hooters, Excalibur, etc. A quality room costs money.
Comps are pretty much impossible up front. Do yourself a favor and join the M Life program for MGM. Then hit the Detroit MGM and get rated. In this economy, you will start getting offers for Vegas MGM hotels with comps. I am a minnow, but get rated because I have a tendency to spend my entire day in a blackjack pit.
If you want free drinks at a sportsbook but only play minimum bets, plan on playing the ponies...and tip the cocktail waitresses well. They won't come back if you are cheap.
Lastly, there are some phenomenal strip clubs in Vegas. If that is your thing, bring some cash. They are not cheap and you will be outbidded by every other MF in the room. It's called "pesonality"...if you have the pesos, the girls will find your personality compelling.
Do yourself a solid and read the first 2 pages of this forum. They will be more detailed. Vegas is not cheap, my friend. You can do it on a budget, but you get what you pay for.
I'm assuming you are in Ontario. If you fly out of London or Toronto, check out Westjet. If you are close to the MI border, take Allegiant out of Grand Rapids.
Stay at an IP, Hooters, Excalibur, etc. A quality room costs money.
Comps are pretty much impossible up front. Do yourself a favor and join the M Life program for MGM. Then hit the Detroit MGM and get rated. In this economy, you will start getting offers for Vegas MGM hotels with comps. I am a minnow, but get rated because I have a tendency to spend my entire day in a blackjack pit.
If you want free drinks at a sportsbook but only play minimum bets, plan on playing the ponies...and tip the cocktail waitresses well. They won't come back if you are cheap.
Lastly, there are some phenomenal strip clubs in Vegas. If that is your thing, bring some cash. They are not cheap and you will be outbidded by every other MF in the room. It's called "pesonality"...if you have the pesos, the girls will find your personality compelling.
Do yourself a solid and read the first 2 pages of this forum. They will be more detailed. Vegas is not cheap, my friend. You can do it on a budget, but you get what you pay for.
@Wilbur - My bankroll will be $5000; I'll probably roll that over about 5 times over a week so my action will be somewhere in the neighbourhood of 25k... Sure, it's not megabucks but I'd figured somewhere would comp me for that kind of action? No? At least free drinks?
@Jimmag - Thanks bro, great link! Exactly what I was looking for!
@MickeyRivers - I like to spend when it's worth it and I work in the industry so I tip handsomely but I'm also a student with a budget and it'd be nice to get the inside tips on where to go. Thanks for your snobby ass remark though, I wouldn't want to go to your bars anyways by the sounds of it!
@ECUhomer - Good advice but I'm not cheap, I just like a bargain. Like I said, my bankroll will be $5000 and I'll probably tack on another $2000 for airfare, hotel, and fun; but if I can save or find a bargain, then that's what I will do. Vegas is killing right now so I just want to know who wants my business the most and how they'll attract it. I'll probably avoid the stripclubs from what you've said...
@Wilbur - My bankroll will be $5000; I'll probably roll that over about 5 times over a week so my action will be somewhere in the neighbourhood of 25k... Sure, it's not megabucks but I'd figured somewhere would comp me for that kind of action? No? At least free drinks?
@Jimmag - Thanks bro, great link! Exactly what I was looking for!
@MickeyRivers - I like to spend when it's worth it and I work in the industry so I tip handsomely but I'm also a student with a budget and it'd be nice to get the inside tips on where to go. Thanks for your snobby ass remark though, I wouldn't want to go to your bars anyways by the sounds of it!
@ECUhomer - Good advice but I'm not cheap, I just like a bargain. Like I said, my bankroll will be $5000 and I'll probably tack on another $2000 for airfare, hotel, and fun; but if I can save or find a bargain, then that's what I will do. Vegas is killing right now so I just want to know who wants my business the most and how they'll attract it. I'll probably avoid the stripclubs from what you've said...
Well any place you stay, get a players card of some sort and gamble there. If you really do roll over $25k at their property/properties, then you have a chance at getting something comped when you go to check out of your hotel room. If not, you should at least get comps for future trips. Try some of the harrahs lower end properties (ballys, flamingo, harrahs).
Every casino brings free drinks on the playing floor, as long as you're tipping.
Again, for shows and hotels, it's all about your preference and what you want to pay.
www.travelzoo.com is helpful if you click the LV links off the main page.
Well any place you stay, get a players card of some sort and gamble there. If you really do roll over $25k at their property/properties, then you have a chance at getting something comped when you go to check out of your hotel room. If not, you should at least get comps for future trips. Try some of the harrahs lower end properties (ballys, flamingo, harrahs).
Every casino brings free drinks on the playing floor, as long as you're tipping.
Again, for shows and hotels, it's all about your preference and what you want to pay.
www.travelzoo.com is helpful if you click the LV links off the main page.
I remember reading only a few places give free drinks at the sportsbook, can't seem to find the post though... anyone know off hand? I'll hit the tables a bit but I'm definitely more of a sports guy and that's where I'll rollover my dough.
Bellagio I was told does not....everywhere I've been though I have to lay 100 bucks or so for a drink ticket but generally the guys at the window will give you two or three....sniff out the more generous ones....a tip or two will help.
If you got 5k to play with and you feel you'll be rolling it over that many times I'd fucking not worry too much about a 7-8 dollar drink
I remember reading only a few places give free drinks at the sportsbook, can't seem to find the post though... anyone know off hand? I'll hit the tables a bit but I'm definitely more of a sports guy and that's where I'll rollover my dough.
Bellagio I was told does not....everywhere I've been though I have to lay 100 bucks or so for a drink ticket but generally the guys at the window will give you two or three....sniff out the more generous ones....a tip or two will help.
If you got 5k to play with and you feel you'll be rolling it over that many times I'd fucking not worry too much about a 7-8 dollar drink
DJ,
My apologies. I had it in my head that you were looking to live off $100 a day. Your bankroll will do you well.
As mentioned before, I am a minnow. My max bet is a nickel...but I am more comfortable with buck bets. If you intend to lay some heavy action at a book vice the tables, ensure they are AWARE, i.e. players card, etc. I'm unsure exactly how one would get rated at a book though because my action is too small to even register on the richter scale...so I don't bother.
Again...any offers I ever get are based on my BJ time.
DJ,
My apologies. I had it in my head that you were looking to live off $100 a day. Your bankroll will do you well.
As mentioned before, I am a minnow. My max bet is a nickel...but I am more comfortable with buck bets. If you intend to lay some heavy action at a book vice the tables, ensure they are AWARE, i.e. players card, etc. I'm unsure exactly how one would get rated at a book though because my action is too small to even register on the richter scale...so I don't bother.
Again...any offers I ever get are based on my BJ time.
Bellagio I was told does not....everywhere I've been though I have to lay 100 bucks or so for a drink ticket but generally the guys at the window will give you two or three....sniff out the more generous ones....a tip or two will help.
If you got 5k to play with and you feel you'll be rolling it over that many times I'd fucking not worry too much about a 7-8 dollar drink
God damnit, why is everyone so fucking negative? Like I said... I'm not cheap but I'd rather save money if I can. So if there's a book willing to drink me for free, why would I play anywhere else? Besides, ten or twenty 7-8 dollar drinks in a day is a bet wasted and therefore potential money wasted.
Bellagio I was told does not....everywhere I've been though I have to lay 100 bucks or so for a drink ticket but generally the guys at the window will give you two or three....sniff out the more generous ones....a tip or two will help.
If you got 5k to play with and you feel you'll be rolling it over that many times I'd fucking not worry too much about a 7-8 dollar drink
God damnit, why is everyone so fucking negative? Like I said... I'm not cheap but I'd rather save money if I can. So if there's a book willing to drink me for free, why would I play anywhere else? Besides, ten or twenty 7-8 dollar drinks in a day is a bet wasted and therefore potential money wasted.
dj....
No negativity, no hating...just some honest advice....AND, once again, I have to say that I find no connection, whatsoever, between betting sports and getting drunk.
If you drink beer, then hang out in the racebook, make a few $2 bets, tip the waitress a buck and she'll keep bringing you beers as long as you play a couple of horses...Bet the favorite to show.
If you drink shots or mixed drinks, then be prepared for lousy booze...usually watered-down and ALWAYS "bottom shelf" from the service bar.
If you are playing in the casino, but not the hi-limit area, you will get free drinks with the same poor results on quality.
...and if you don't care about the quality, or don't know the difference, then I have to go back to my original question/observation...."What's the connection between betting sports and getting drunk?"
I know and have many sharps/pros as friends/acquaintances....Not one of them drinks more than one beer when actively betting; and to make money in this town, you have to be aware and active, non-emotional, when you are in the books.
dj....
No negativity, no hating...just some honest advice....AND, once again, I have to say that I find no connection, whatsoever, between betting sports and getting drunk.
If you drink beer, then hang out in the racebook, make a few $2 bets, tip the waitress a buck and she'll keep bringing you beers as long as you play a couple of horses...Bet the favorite to show.
If you drink shots or mixed drinks, then be prepared for lousy booze...usually watered-down and ALWAYS "bottom shelf" from the service bar.
If you are playing in the casino, but not the hi-limit area, you will get free drinks with the same poor results on quality.
...and if you don't care about the quality, or don't know the difference, then I have to go back to my original question/observation...."What's the connection between betting sports and getting drunk?"
I know and have many sharps/pros as friends/acquaintances....Not one of them drinks more than one beer when actively betting; and to make money in this town, you have to be aware and active, non-emotional, when you are in the books.
I am by no means a sharp or a pro anyways... I'm a break even bettor basically, which is why Vegas is perfect for me; if I break even but get comped, I'm winning. Call me Charlie Sheen!
I am by no means a sharp or a pro anyways... I'm a break even bettor basically, which is why Vegas is perfect for me; if I break even but get comped, I'm winning. Call me Charlie Sheen!
God damnit, why is everyone so fucking negative? Like I said... I'm not cheap but I'd rather save money if I can. So if there's a book willing to drink me for free, why would I play anywhere else? Besides, ten or twenty 7-8 dollar drinks in a day is a bet wasted and therefore potential money wasted.
Not negative. Never said you were cheap. Enjoy the trip![]()
God damnit, why is everyone so fucking negative? Like I said... I'm not cheap but I'd rather save money if I can. So if there's a book willing to drink me for free, why would I play anywhere else? Besides, ten or twenty 7-8 dollar drinks in a day is a bet wasted and therefore potential money wasted.
Not negative. Never said you were cheap. Enjoy the trip![]()
OK dj, a little more observation here for you.......
Since you have never been here, then...trust me...you have never been exposed to the depth and breadth of sports betting that you will experience. I don't care if your "local" is your uncle...Vegas and the options that it offers is unique.
There is no way that you can use that "cap in the morning, make my own lines, bet my games, get drunk" method and turn your bankroll over 5 times in this town. The temptations and range of what you will experience will have you chasing before the second day is over.
You are a "square"...nothing wrong with that...But, understand, this town was built by and for squares....If you think that you can break even, then expect to lose. If you understand that, expectantly, you will lose....then you can have a chance to win.
Please try to understand that last sentence....I see this everyday; my associates see it everyday.
No hating, no bashing, no negativity...just the reality of Vegas.
OK dj, a little more observation here for you.......
Since you have never been here, then...trust me...you have never been exposed to the depth and breadth of sports betting that you will experience. I don't care if your "local" is your uncle...Vegas and the options that it offers is unique.
There is no way that you can use that "cap in the morning, make my own lines, bet my games, get drunk" method and turn your bankroll over 5 times in this town. The temptations and range of what you will experience will have you chasing before the second day is over.
You are a "square"...nothing wrong with that...But, understand, this town was built by and for squares....If you think that you can break even, then expect to lose. If you understand that, expectantly, you will lose....then you can have a chance to win.
Please try to understand that last sentence....I see this everyday; my associates see it everyday.
No hating, no bashing, no negativity...just the reality of Vegas.
My combined record my last 2 trips to vegas was 17-2 on straight plays +60 units at least...
Of course this is a couple years ago, and it was only over the course of my 3 or 4 days total, but my point is : it can be done (turning your bankroll over, that is)
My combined record my last 2 trips to vegas was 17-2 on straight plays +60 units at least...
Of course this is a couple years ago, and it was only over the course of my 3 or 4 days total, but my point is : it can be done (turning your bankroll over, that is)
Well as far as strip clubs/hookers/sex party's/...........![]()
where to begin....Larry's Villa
a ol time locals vegas fav or the new hustler club
and all points in between....my personal fav from 15-20 years ago was Olympic Gardens.....great value with a flashy bankroll
understand you will pay...believe me, you can have anything direct to your room for a modeling and entertainer fee......millions just look in the yellow pages under entertainers, models ect.......
Before you think about rolling over your bank-roll 5 times a week, think about the millions that have tried before you
the books will open awaiting your arrrival
...have a good day and good luck.........Just tell any cabbie Larry Villa's....when inside ask for Destiny and tell her rickster sent ya![]()
![]()
Well as far as strip clubs/hookers/sex party's/...........![]()
where to begin....Larry's Villa
a ol time locals vegas fav or the new hustler club
and all points in between....my personal fav from 15-20 years ago was Olympic Gardens.....great value with a flashy bankroll
understand you will pay...believe me, you can have anything direct to your room for a modeling and entertainer fee......millions just look in the yellow pages under entertainers, models ect.......
Before you think about rolling over your bank-roll 5 times a week, think about the millions that have tried before you
the books will open awaiting your arrrival
...have a good day and good luck.........Just tell any cabbie Larry Villa's....when inside ask for Destiny and tell her rickster sent ya![]()
![]()
There is no way that you can use that "cap in the morning, make my own lines, bet my games, get drunk" method and turn your bankroll over 5 times in this town. The temptations and range of what you will experience will have you chasing before the second day is over.
You are a "square"...nothing wrong with that...But, understand, this town was built by and for squares....If you think that you can break even, then expect to lose. If you understand that, expectantly, you will lose....then you can have a chance to win.
Please try to understand that last sentence....I see this everyday; my associates see it everyday.
No hating, no bashing, no negativity...just the reality of Vegas.
Temptations and chasing are non-existent to me... I lose every other day (on average) and have no problem with it. In the long run, I win money.
I'm not a square, nor a sharp... but I do make money from this. I've just been breaking even for the past 4 months. Just a small blip on the map really. Besides, I always try to understate rather than overstate which is why I said I'm a break even bettor.
And for rickster, I hope you don't think I meant I will win 5x my bankroll. I simply mean that I will likely bet through it 5x.
For everyone that for some reason thinks I'm going to lose my nuts simply because I'm in Vegas, check out my thread where I've been keeping meticulous track of my bets since last summer. Nothings going to change when I go to Vegas.
There is no way that you can use that "cap in the morning, make my own lines, bet my games, get drunk" method and turn your bankroll over 5 times in this town. The temptations and range of what you will experience will have you chasing before the second day is over.
You are a "square"...nothing wrong with that...But, understand, this town was built by and for squares....If you think that you can break even, then expect to lose. If you understand that, expectantly, you will lose....then you can have a chance to win.
Please try to understand that last sentence....I see this everyday; my associates see it everyday.
No hating, no bashing, no negativity...just the reality of Vegas.
Temptations and chasing are non-existent to me... I lose every other day (on average) and have no problem with it. In the long run, I win money.
I'm not a square, nor a sharp... but I do make money from this. I've just been breaking even for the past 4 months. Just a small blip on the map really. Besides, I always try to understate rather than overstate which is why I said I'm a break even bettor.
And for rickster, I hope you don't think I meant I will win 5x my bankroll. I simply mean that I will likely bet through it 5x.
For everyone that for some reason thinks I'm going to lose my nuts simply because I'm in Vegas, check out my thread where I've been keeping meticulous track of my bets since last summer. Nothings going to change when I go to Vegas.
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