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    sharpstick
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 3:45 PM ET #26



    Couldn't have been said any better than how dennishopson put it.  
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    Couldn't have been said any better than how dennishopson put it.  
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 5:33 PM ET #27

    Sharp....

    Stating the obvious.

    Funny how far away this guy moved from his original query and mutated the concerns into something else.


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    Sharp....

    Stating the obvious.

    Funny how far away this guy moved from his original query and mutated the concerns into something else.


     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 5:56 PM ET #28

    ....And if it's all about software, there are so many ways to work that as a direction and solution to having your *ahem* professional gambling career,

     ......and you could conduct your alleged said venture from anywhere you want to live and once again never have to ever set foot in Vegas for the purposes of wagering.

    Hard to believe that eventhough none of this was about software initially, but rather to duck how silly the original thought was.....that he doesn't know how to get around ISP locations to bet from somewhere else....

    So, you are going to move to Vegas in order to bet online from the wayy better living situation from your pc in Boulder City.....with Lucky's or LeRoys' lame ass extremely limited betting options north49???

    Yup. That makes sense.




    I am certainly not referring to Handsdown (cool poster) or anyone in this thread per se,  but I think it's hillarious all the people that merely visit here, don't/haven't lived here, and portray themselves as the biggest experts around.

    Once again, even if this was all about wagering and developmental software, which it wasn't.....

    .....said thread starter should already be smart enough to mask his ISP legally from wherever he would want to wager from.

    No one would ever go that far out of their way, move a family to Las Vegas, live in Boulder City,..... all just to be able to wager online with Leroys or Luckys horribly limited options, with their blackberry or pc.... That might be the most galactically stupid thing that I have ever seen.



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    ....And if it's all about software, there are so many ways to work that as a direction and solution to having your *ahem* professional gambling career,

     ......and you could conduct your alleged said venture from anywhere you want to live and once again never have to ever set foot in Vegas for the purposes of wagering.

    Hard to believe that eventhough none of this was about software initially, but rather to duck how silly the original thought was.....that he doesn't know how to get around ISP locations to bet from somewhere else....

    So, you are going to move to Vegas in order to bet online from the wayy better living situation from your pc in Boulder City.....with Lucky's or LeRoys' lame ass extremely limited betting options north49???

    Yup. That makes sense.




    I am certainly not referring to Handsdown (cool poster) or anyone in this thread per se,  but I think it's hillarious all the people that merely visit here, don't/haven't lived here, and portray themselves as the biggest experts around.

    Once again, even if this was all about wagering and developmental software, which it wasn't.....

    .....said thread starter should already be smart enough to mask his ISP legally from wherever he would want to wager from.

    No one would ever go that far out of their way, move a family to Las Vegas, live in Boulder City,..... all just to be able to wager online with Leroys or Luckys horribly limited options, with their blackberry or pc.... That might be the most galactically stupid thing that I have ever seen.



     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:



    No one would ever go that far out of their way, move a family to Las Vegas, live in Boulder City,..... all just to be able to wager online with Leroys or Luckys horribly limited options, with their blackberry or pc.... That might be the most galactically stupid thing that I have ever seen.





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    Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:



    No one would ever go that far out of their way, move a family to Las Vegas, live in Boulder City,..... all just to be able to wager online with Leroys or Luckys horribly limited options, with their blackberry or pc.... That might be the most galactically stupid thing that I have ever seen.





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    Handsdown
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    Posted: May. 3, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #30

    If he wants to move here to bet then that is his choice.  He might have other reasons for wanting to come here, or leave there, that he is choosing not to tell us.  Whatever his reasons, I'm sure he knows what is best for him and his family.

    There are two distinct advantages to betting in Nevada opposed to betting offshore.  One is that you can get your money immediately anytime you want it without having to wait for a check in the mail.  Second is not having to pay withdrawal fees or any fees if your offshore book charges any.  I loved betting with my 5 Dimes account but stopped because of all the horror stories of people not getting their checks on time, or at all, and the constant stream of bullshit you hear from the customer service of those books.  It just became too much trouble and risk than it was worth.

    @Northof49sports  When I was betting soccer, I usually was betting totals and not sides.  Sides are difficult because soccer matches often tie, like you said.  Betting soccer was never something I did seriously, though.  It was more just for fun.  I don't know nearly enough about soccer to bet it seriously.  Sometimes I would bet $50 7-10 team parlays just of all the heaviest favorites.  I actually hit about 50% of those, give or take.  But the whole soccer thing was for fun, not serious betting.
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    If he wants to move here to bet then that is his choice.  He might have other reasons for wanting to come here, or leave there, that he is choosing not to tell us.  Whatever his reasons, I'm sure he knows what is best for him and his family.

    There are two distinct advantages to betting in Nevada opposed to betting offshore.  One is that you can get your money immediately anytime you want it without having to wait for a check in the mail.  Second is not having to pay withdrawal fees or any fees if your offshore book charges any.  I loved betting with my 5 Dimes account but stopped because of all the horror stories of people not getting their checks on time, or at all, and the constant stream of bullshit you hear from the customer service of those books.  It just became too much trouble and risk than it was worth.

    @Northof49sports  When I was betting soccer, I usually was betting totals and not sides.  Sides are difficult because soccer matches often tie, like you said.  Betting soccer was never something I did seriously, though.  It was more just for fun.  I don't know nearly enough about soccer to bet it seriously.  Sometimes I would bet $50 7-10 team parlays just of all the heaviest favorites.  I actually hit about 50% of those, give or take.  But the whole soccer thing was for fun, not serious betting.
     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 1:07 AM ET #31

    @dennisHopson: you're a class-one tool; what's 'masking an ISP', you're a network security expert now, loll ?

    You mean using tunneling/middleware to change your Internet Protocol (IP) address ? 

    Thanks for the attempted tech. lesson, but that old trick won't work with tracking software.  You know, tit-tit, very little, and bore the sh*t out of me with your incoherent drivel.  

    Your repeated rantings as posted here indicate to me that you are also compulsive, a sure sign of a complete loser.  

    You can keep being a tool, I like to slap arrogant twerps around
     

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    @dennisHopson: you're a class-one tool; what's 'masking an ISP', you're a network security expert now, loll ?

    You mean using tunneling/middleware to change your Internet Protocol (IP) address ? 

    Thanks for the attempted tech. lesson, but that old trick won't work with tracking software.  You know, tit-tit, very little, and bore the sh*t out of me with your incoherent drivel.  

    Your repeated rantings as posted here indicate to me that you are also compulsive, a sure sign of a complete loser.  

    You can keep being a tool, I like to slap arrogant twerps around
     

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 1:17 AM ET #32

    @Handsdown: I will PM you regarding a few related topics I'd like your input on, without sycophant salesmen types hanging around.

    End of thread. 

    Thank you for everyone's response.

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    @Handsdown: I will PM you regarding a few related topics I'd like your input on, without sycophant salesmen types hanging around.

    End of thread. 

    Thank you for everyone's response.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 1:39 AM ET #33

    wow,,some late thread anger
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    wow,,some late thread anger
     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 4:58 AM ET #34

    Hillarious.....

    Longwinded drivel, changing topics, software nonsense by overcomplicating the simplest actions to get to a solution of a very small roadblock.

    I should have known when the kid said he had "seven years experience", which means that he's most likely about 24 years old and made a $20 bet on a double digit favorite in the NFL after his 17th birthday sometime.

    Yawn........


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    Hillarious.....

    Longwinded drivel, changing topics, software nonsense by overcomplicating the simplest actions to get to a solution of a very small roadblock.

    I should have known when the kid said he had "seven years experience", which means that he's most likely about 24 years old and made a $20 bet on a double digit favorite in the NFL after his 17th birthday sometime.

    Yawn........


     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 2:20 PM ET #35

    i'll try again to end thread without getting backstabbed by the obvious suspect.

    @dennisHopson: I know u'll be back when u lose, yet again, so here's one last kiss-off for ur pleasure...  keep a dictionary nearby and keep reading this thread over and over again, which is often in ur case..  ur 2 obvious, solve ur compulsive/money problems and GET A LIFE although it's probably 2 late for u !!!.. 

    @nc1capper: sorry...  but this guy is out to lunch and too obvious... classless, pompous, lordly, biggety type, masking major deficiencies... motivating though...  but I'm advised.

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    i'll try again to end thread without getting backstabbed by the obvious suspect.

    @dennisHopson: I know u'll be back when u lose, yet again, so here's one last kiss-off for ur pleasure...  keep a dictionary nearby and keep reading this thread over and over again, which is often in ur case..  ur 2 obvious, solve ur compulsive/money problems and GET A LIFE although it's probably 2 late for u !!!.. 

    @nc1capper: sorry...  but this guy is out to lunch and too obvious... classless, pompous, lordly, biggety type, masking major deficiencies... motivating though...  but I'm advised.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2011 - 6:10 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    wow,,some late thread anger


    something new to you?

    ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    wow,,some late thread anger


    something new to you?

    ;)

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2011 - 9:53 PM ET #37

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    Posted: May. 12, 2011 - 6:06 PM ET #38

    eating popcorn
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    eating popcorn
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2011 - 4:45 PM ET #39

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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2011 - 8:21 PM ET #40

    listen bottom line is this Nevada is very nice state but not the las vegas area, too much so cal scum is what put this city into its ruination (nba all star game 2007 started the real fall) , if you want to try the state go to Carson City, great location the weather is way better than down here but if you want southern nevada go to laughlin instead .

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    listen bottom line is this Nevada is very nice state but not the las vegas area, too much so cal scum is what put this city into its ruination (nba all star game 2007 started the real fall) , if you want to try the state go to Carson City, great location the weather is way better than down here but if you want southern nevada go to laughlin instead .

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2011 - 1:21 PM ET #41

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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2011 - 7:10 PM ET #42


    Yavapai

    Yes, I like NV's wide open desert/mountain landscape.  It's foreboding but awesome. 

    Carson City, isn't that near where the Donner party got lost in snow ?, the great white 'Nevada' ...  When I leave Canada, I don't want to even feel a chill, much less severe winter weather.  Heho..  I'll check out Laughlin though Thanks buddy.
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    Yavapai

    Yes, I like NV's wide open desert/mountain landscape.  It's foreboding but awesome. 

    Carson City, isn't that near where the Donner party got lost in snow ?, the great white 'Nevada' ...  When I leave Canada, I don't want to even feel a chill, much less severe winter weather.  Heho..  I'll check out Laughlin though Thanks buddy.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #43

    northof49sports      i think any real sports better is better off living in nevada. any of these so called A+ online books could be gone with your money in the blink of the eye,in nevada these books are regulated you are going to get paid .i think it could work for you northof49sports. some people om here have special interest  in online sportsbooks and the gravey train is coming to an end,and its going to hurt real bad. you seem to be one of the ones on here that have a straight head,forget about the tool,he has special interest. go for it man
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    northof49sports      i think any real sports better is better off living in nevada. any of these so called A+ online books could be gone with your money in the blink of the eye,in nevada these books are regulated you are going to get paid .i think it could work for you northof49sports. some people om here have special interest  in online sportsbooks and the gravey train is coming to an end,and its going to hurt real bad. you seem to be one of the ones on here that have a straight head,forget about the tool,he has special interest. go for it man
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2011 - 1:55 PM ET #44

    hopeigetpaid

    yeah, where are the talking heads championing these so called A+ onlinebooks now ?  I thought these special interest lobbyists were supposed to be convincing, lol...

    I DO like Pinny, they've never f*cked me over, but can't just have one account in this biz, rest I DON'T like one bit. 

    Also agree on your other point.  I'd rather have my money protected by a U.S. state regulatory board and a U.S.-based incorporation than a Dutch island in the Caribbean, or a country where there are no regulations for internet gambling, e.g., Costa Rica.

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    hopeigetpaid

    yeah, where are the talking heads championing these so called A+ onlinebooks now ?  I thought these special interest lobbyists were supposed to be convincing, lol...

    I DO like Pinny, they've never f*cked me over, but can't just have one account in this biz, rest I DON'T like one bit. 

    Also agree on your other point.  I'd rather have my money protected by a U.S. state regulatory board and a U.S.-based incorporation than a Dutch island in the Caribbean, or a country where there are no regulations for internet gambling, e.g., Costa Rica.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2011 - 3:51 PM ET #45

    If you are a serious bettor you can not beat LV.You can walk up to 1 of many books bet 10k and get paid in 2-3 hours later. How is having a phone account at one book any different then being locked into 1 online account unless you split your bankroll? The beauty of LV is you can find your best # up/down the blvd.

    Back in the 80's I had money at GaryAustins the only sportsbook to fold and take the players money with it. The fucking degenerate bet all the money he had on accounts on the StLouis cards in the worldseries and the KC royals won. That was an independant race/sports book not like now.

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    If you are a serious bettor you can not beat LV.You can walk up to 1 of many books bet 10k and get paid in 2-3 hours later. How is having a phone account at one book any different then being locked into 1 online account unless you split your bankroll? The beauty of LV is you can find your best # up/down the blvd.

    Back in the 80's I had money at GaryAustins the only sportsbook to fold and take the players money with it. The fucking degenerate bet all the money he had on accounts on the StLouis cards in the worldseries and the KC royals won. That was an independant race/sports book not like now.

     
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    i have been sports betting ,about 17 years.i started with the local bookie slash want to be mob / guy.it was ok he always paid but if you got hot and won a bunch of his money there would be a littel bad vibes.then i started placeing bets online and loved it,but there were alot of times i had to sweat the payouts .man could tell some story"s .one book slow paid me for 4 months almost 15000 and it cost them a 8000.00 mistake unreal .but been to las vegas twice in past 4years and freaked when i went to the sports books there,very nice.realy like the no sweat the payout ,game over go ticket window money in hand .now that a good feeling.was out there last month and was at the rio sportsbook and went up to the guy at the window and said will you take a 20.000 bet he said sure this is vegas man will take anything,and i said really .he said yes .then we talked about the tax and irs rules and stuff he was really cool guy .i was very happy what i found out ,most sports books out there at the moment dont report to irs,if they are a satlelite company,some are some arent,one told me if the payout is over 5000 they report but was told by the guy come up a couple times with smaller tickets ,i said is that allowed he said we dont care. so much more to tell but as you see i suck typeing,with my eyes .but vegas rocks man when it comes to sportsbetting,they ,online books can keep all there prop bets i will stick with the real deal,nothing compares to vegas sports books.
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    i have been sports betting ,about 17 years.i started with the local bookie slash want to be mob / guy.it was ok he always paid but if you got hot and won a bunch of his money there would be a littel bad vibes.then i started placeing bets online and loved it,but there were alot of times i had to sweat the payouts .man could tell some story"s .one book slow paid me for 4 months almost 15000 and it cost them a 8000.00 mistake unreal .but been to las vegas twice in past 4years and freaked when i went to the sports books there,very nice.realy like the no sweat the payout ,game over go ticket window money in hand .now that a good feeling.was out there last month and was at the rio sportsbook and went up to the guy at the window and said will you take a 20.000 bet he said sure this is vegas man will take anything,and i said really .he said yes .then we talked about the tax and irs rules and stuff he was really cool guy .i was very happy what i found out ,most sports books out there at the moment dont report to irs,if they are a satlelite company,some are some arent,one told me if the payout is over 5000 they report but was told by the guy come up a couple times with smaller tickets ,i said is that allowed he said we dont care. so much more to tell but as you see i suck typeing,with my eyes .but vegas rocks man when it comes to sportsbetting,they ,online books can keep all there prop bets i will stick with the real deal,nothing compares to vegas sports books.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 5:12 PM ET #47

    norrthof49sports check out this story i found today,i nthink vegas sports books are going to improve alot very soon,here a link check it out.            https://www.eog.com/news/full-article.aspx?id=49878
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    norrthof49sports check out this story i found today,i nthink vegas sports books are going to improve alot very soon,here a link check it out.            https://www.eog.com/news/full-article.aspx?id=49878
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2011 - 7:36 PM ET #48

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    The sportsbook industry as we know it is going through a paradigm shift in the U.S.

    These Wall St.-backed software systems are the new players in town, being built to regulate, process, and tax gambling in NV and eventually in other states.  Soon, you don't need to walk the Strip anymore, can live anywhere in NV, get volume-based spreads, and bet from anywhere using any comm. tech. you want, but you will have to pay taxes and surcharges to NV on your winnings. 

    Once the NV-based systems are up and running, all offshore books who accept U.S. residents will be in even greater danger of eradication/seizures/bankruptcies through new, stricter, and more enforceable guidelines.  These guidelines would form new state and federal legislation that would increase criminal convictions, civil penalties, credit rating downgrades, and so on (depending on the amount of shadow $$) against gamblers/syndicates who hold offshore accounts for what will be regarded as tax evasion/laundering activities. 

    Simply put, this plan is about tax revitalization at corporate, federal and state levels. Wall St. banks/LV/NV/U.S. all need facelifts everybody knows.  Arguments over morality have very little substance.

    The U.S. gambling industry could evolve into a structural, bureaucratic and tax-generating legal system a la UK/Europe as they can't afford not to tax this large and unregulated industry anymore.

    I don't have a problem paying regulatory taxes on gambling winnings, because these taxes would serve to protect my investment, and go to programs to fix infrastructure, schools, public services, etc. -- these areas are the main concerns in recessions.

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    hopeigetpaid

    The sportsbook industry as we know it is going through a paradigm shift in the U.S.

    These Wall St.-backed software systems are the new players in town, being built to regulate, process, and tax gambling in NV and eventually in other states.  Soon, you don't need to walk the Strip anymore, can live anywhere in NV, get volume-based spreads, and bet from anywhere using any comm. tech. you want, but you will have to pay taxes and surcharges to NV on your winnings. 

    Once the NV-based systems are up and running, all offshore books who accept U.S. residents will be in even greater danger of eradication/seizures/bankruptcies through new, stricter, and more enforceable guidelines.  These guidelines would form new state and federal legislation that would increase criminal convictions, civil penalties, credit rating downgrades, and so on (depending on the amount of shadow $$) against gamblers/syndicates who hold offshore accounts for what will be regarded as tax evasion/laundering activities. 

    Simply put, this plan is about tax revitalization at corporate, federal and state levels. Wall St. banks/LV/NV/U.S. all need facelifts everybody knows.  Arguments over morality have very little substance.

    The U.S. gambling industry could evolve into a structural, bureaucratic and tax-generating legal system a la UK/Europe as they can't afford not to tax this large and unregulated industry anymore.

    I don't have a problem paying regulatory taxes on gambling winnings, because these taxes would serve to protect my investment, and go to programs to fix infrastructure, schools, public services, etc. -- these areas are the main concerns in recessions.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2011 - 7:43 PM ET #49

    The new rates for gambling capital gains tax would use a graduated scale I imagine, and would be low enough, at least initially, to gain public support/political backing.
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    The new rates for gambling capital gains tax would use a graduated scale I imagine, and would be low enough, at least initially, to gain public support/political backing.
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