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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 2:17 AM ET #51

    Hi, this is from one of my affiliate sites....I get paid if you book on expedia but I also have some promo codes that I don't earn a commission on. 
    https://lasvegas.im/las-vegas-hotel-promo-codes

    This is the latest list of Resort Fees...
    https://lasvegas.im/las-vegas-hotel-promo-codes/las-vegas-resort-fees

    Another thing to check for is if there is a large convention it Vegas. That will cause the rates to jacked up. 
    Have you checked Southwest Airlines, they have some good package deals if you book far enough in advance.

    Excalibur has a better location than Circus. Since the Stardust was torn down Circus is in the middle of nowhere. 
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    Hi, this is from one of my affiliate sites....I get paid if you book on expedia but I also have some promo codes that I don't earn a commission on. 
    https://lasvegas.im/las-vegas-hotel-promo-codes

    This is the latest list of Resort Fees...
    https://lasvegas.im/las-vegas-hotel-promo-codes/las-vegas-resort-fees

    Another thing to check for is if there is a large convention it Vegas. That will cause the rates to jacked up. 
    Have you checked Southwest Airlines, they have some good package deals if you book far enough in advance.

    Excalibur has a better location than Circus. Since the Stardust was torn down Circus is in the middle of nowhere. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 9:44 AM ET #52

    Bro, dont worry about bedbugs. Im a las vegan and work in the casino industry. Bills is a clean establishment in a great location. its an older property, but a good deal.
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    Bro, dont worry about bedbugs. Im a las vegan and work in the casino industry. Bills is a clean establishment in a great location. its an older property, but a good deal.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 9:51 AM ET #53

    plus bills has free shuttle bus to gold coast, orleans, and sams town. some great off strip properties with good poker rooms and good value eateries. some of the best cheap buffets in vegas. Gold coast is good cause you can hit the Rio, and Palms right next door.  When done take free shuttle bus back to strip.
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    plus bills has free shuttle bus to gold coast, orleans, and sams town. some great off strip properties with good poker rooms and good value eateries. some of the best cheap buffets in vegas. Gold coast is good cause you can hit the Rio, and Palms right next door.  When done take free shuttle bus back to strip.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 10:50 AM ET #54

    You are fine with Bill's - can't beat the location. You have the right idea on bankroll, spread it around and try it all to have fun. You're gonna leave it there anyway so have fun walking all the casinos. The key to getting a nice buzz is to hang at a casino bar and play video poker for comped drinks. As for poker - if you play at Bill's, Flamingo, Harrah's those are all average games and you won't get taken like you will at Ceasar's, Venetian or where the sharks hang. Since it's your first trip spend the days walking around and hitting all the casinos to see it all, recoup in early evening and then hit the casinos you want to play at night. That's what I do and I've been going 2x a year for the past 12 years - I still enjoy seeing it all - it's the best people watching in the world, both good and bad...
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    You are fine with Bill's - can't beat the location. You have the right idea on bankroll, spread it around and try it all to have fun. You're gonna leave it there anyway so have fun walking all the casinos. The key to getting a nice buzz is to hang at a casino bar and play video poker for comped drinks. As for poker - if you play at Bill's, Flamingo, Harrah's those are all average games and you won't get taken like you will at Ceasar's, Venetian or where the sharks hang. Since it's your first trip spend the days walking around and hitting all the casinos to see it all, recoup in early evening and then hit the casinos you want to play at night. That's what I do and I've been going 2x a year for the past 12 years - I still enjoy seeing it all - it's the best people watching in the world, both good and bad...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 11:06 AM ET #55

    DrRenob and Bosshook, thanks for the reassurance about Bills. My brother and I have decided this is where we are going to stay!

    Bosshook, I have heard the softest poker games are at Bally's, Rio, Flamingo, Mandalay Bay, MGM, Aria...I am by no means a shark but nor am I a fish. Probably an above average player that just doesn't get to play as much as I would like.

    I checked out that allvegaspoker.com and that is a wonderful site regarding poker...basically from what I read there are soft games basically all over the place. But kept reading to stay away from most games at the Orleans and games downtown. Other than that, even at Venetian and Caesars there are easy tables (according to testimonies on the site). I also read that there is a good chance I can find soft games at Bellagio. Thanks for the tips fellas, keep em coming!  

    Oh and I don't plan on sleeping a whole lot...so I will basically be exploring, gambling, and eating most of the time I THINK. 
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    DrRenob and Bosshook, thanks for the reassurance about Bills. My brother and I have decided this is where we are going to stay!

    Bosshook, I have heard the softest poker games are at Bally's, Rio, Flamingo, Mandalay Bay, MGM, Aria...I am by no means a shark but nor am I a fish. Probably an above average player that just doesn't get to play as much as I would like.

    I checked out that allvegaspoker.com and that is a wonderful site regarding poker...basically from what I read there are soft games basically all over the place. But kept reading to stay away from most games at the Orleans and games downtown. Other than that, even at Venetian and Caesars there are easy tables (according to testimonies on the site). I also read that there is a good chance I can find soft games at Bellagio. Thanks for the tips fellas, keep em coming!  

    Oh and I don't plan on sleeping a whole lot...so I will basically be exploring, gambling, and eating most of the time I THINK. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 12:16 PM ET #56

    my 2 cents

    downtown and orleans has low cost tourney games with some of the toughest local players......this is a great place to test skills against some of the best without spending a fortune ......

     

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    my 2 cents

    downtown and orleans has low cost tourney games with some of the toughest local players......this is a great place to test skills against some of the best without spending a fortune ......

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 4:47 PM ET #57

    Looked into any weekly suite places?   When I first moved down here a while back there were some right near the strip for like $200-300 for 7 a week and they usually have a kitchen.  
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    Looked into any weekly suite places?   When I first moved down here a while back there were some right near the strip for like $200-300 for 7 a week and they usually have a kitchen.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBiz:

    Looked into any weekly suite places?   When I first moved down here a while back there were some right near the strip for like $200-300 for 7 a week and they usually have a kitchen.  

    Thanks for the tip but I am only staying 4 nights 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBiz:

    Looked into any weekly suite places?   When I first moved down here a while back there were some right near the strip for like $200-300 for 7 a week and they usually have a kitchen.  

    Thanks for the tip but I am only staying 4 nights 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by rpuck1:

    my 2 cents

    downtown and orleans has low cost tourney games with some of the toughest local players......this is a great place to test skills against some of the best without spending a fortune ......

     


    That is a good point. But why would the really skilled players want to play in a low stakes tourney??? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpuck1:

    my 2 cents

    downtown and orleans has low cost tourney games with some of the toughest local players......this is a great place to test skills against some of the best without spending a fortune ......

     


    That is a good point. But why would the really skilled players want to play in a low stakes tourney??? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:25 AM ET #60

    Mother's Day was invented by greeting card companies.  that anyone takes it seriously.
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    Mother's Day was invented by greeting card companies.  that anyone takes it seriously.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 1:27 PM ET #61

    This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck home.
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    This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck home.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 3:38 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by jsab:

    This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck home.


    Lmao...na I am not that cheap...I am just trying to find a little value man. The main reason for that is (I have a pending DUI case and not sure of any fees and fines that will ensue) so I am trying to plan accordingly. I don't have a problem spending coin my friend, just trying to save as much as I can on days, hotels, airfare...that kinda thing. (hence the title of the thread). 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsab:

    This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck home.


    Lmao...na I am not that cheap...I am just trying to find a little value man. The main reason for that is (I have a pending DUI case and not sure of any fees and fines that will ensue) so I am trying to plan accordingly. I don't have a problem spending coin my friend, just trying to save as much as I can on days, hotels, airfare...that kinda thing. (hence the title of the thread). 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 4:08 PM ET #63

    ad- What do they do in Texas for DUI ? In NY they will make you install a camera IN your car and install special ignition and go to consulling and pay fines until your ass bleeds red and the insurance co. hates it when you do that.GL
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    ad- What do they do in Texas for DUI ? In NY they will make you install a camera IN your car and install special ignition and go to consulling and pay fines until your ass bleeds red and the insurance co. hates it when you do that.GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 4:19 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:



    Lmao...na I am not that cheap...I am just trying to find a little value man. The main reason for that is (I have a pending DUI case and not sure of any fees and fines that will ensue) so I am trying to plan accordingly. I don't have a problem spending coin my friend, just trying to save as much as I can on days, hotels, airfare...that kinda thing. (hence the title of the thread). 

    Okay my man have a great time. Fair enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:



    Lmao...na I am not that cheap...I am just trying to find a little value man. The main reason for that is (I have a pending DUI case and not sure of any fees and fines that will ensue) so I am trying to plan accordingly. I don't have a problem spending coin my friend, just trying to save as much as I can on days, hotels, airfare...that kinda thing. (hence the title of the thread). 

    Okay my man have a great time. Fair enough!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 4:31 PM ET #65

     I'll let you know when it is officially booked with details
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     I'll let you know when it is officially booked with details
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 6:58 PM ET #66

    [Quote: Originally Posted by jsab] This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck agree
    See you at the window.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jsab] This dude sounds like the type of guy when you go out to lunch or dinner rather than just split the tab,divide it up to the penny.If you are strapped or taht concerned about pinching pennies or as you stae value,I would stay home.It would be like me taking my son to  abaseball game and say no to hotdog and/or soda/snacks. Not trying to insult you my friend but if you are that frugal really stay the fuck agree
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:09 PM ET #67

    Bro... Just be Careful With Your Bankroll... Vegas will Take You Deep If Not Careful, Trust Me... Ugh.. Free Drinks??? Have A Great Time!!!!
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    Bro... Just be Careful With Your Bankroll... Vegas will Take You Deep If Not Careful, Trust Me... Ugh.. Free Drinks??? Have A Great Time!!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:23 PM ET #68

    Just throwing my 2 cents in here because I love talking Vegas and I get there about every other month. 

    First off, I can't say this for sure since I don't know you but it would be very realistic for you to get burned out after 3 or 4 days if this is your first time. I say this because time flies and there is no last cool. You essentially have no idea what time it is ever and a lot of the time you are indoors so it is easy to lose track of time. 

    I love gambling at Bill's. It's probably some of the cheapest table games on the strip and it is the cheapest Hold em you will find. And if I can give you a tip for when you play there(it's $1/.50cent blinds and a minimum $20 buy in which is really cheap and they also have $30 tourneys that start every few hours) is throw the cocktail waitress $5 right off the bat. Most players there are really cheap and only tip .50 cents for every drink and then wonder why she rarely comes around. Give her a $5 chip right off the bat and make eye contact with her and smile and tell her to keep bringing them. Throw her a buck a drink after that. I've had it to the point where I have 3 or 4 drinks in front of me and I had to tell her to stop bringing them for a bit. 

    I personally wouldn't stay at Bill's. I wouldn't mind spending a little bit more money for a better room. I know you don't plan on staying in the room much, but eventually you will hit a wall and want a decent place to crash. Not that the Excalibur is a 5 star resort, but imo, it's better than Bill's. 

    Each place has it's benefits as far as location goes. Excal is closer to MGM, Mandalay, Luxor, all the south end strip places. MGM is great sportsbook and it's fun to bet and catch games there. Bill's is closer to center strip and the cheaper drinking and gambling locations like Harrah's, IP, Flamingo, O'Shea's(really cheap here), etc.

    BTW, don't place sports bets at the IP. Half the time there dry erase board with lines isn't accurate to what line they will give you for an event. It's a pretty shady practice imo. 

    Whatever you decide I hope you have a blast. Make sure you ask about comps and drink tickets and players club memberships. It will usually result in saving on buffets or comped meals and free or bogo drink specials. 


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    Just throwing my 2 cents in here because I love talking Vegas and I get there about every other month. 

    First off, I can't say this for sure since I don't know you but it would be very realistic for you to get burned out after 3 or 4 days if this is your first time. I say this because time flies and there is no last cool. You essentially have no idea what time it is ever and a lot of the time you are indoors so it is easy to lose track of time. 

    I love gambling at Bill's. It's probably some of the cheapest table games on the strip and it is the cheapest Hold em you will find. And if I can give you a tip for when you play there(it's $1/.50cent blinds and a minimum $20 buy in which is really cheap and they also have $30 tourneys that start every few hours) is throw the cocktail waitress $5 right off the bat. Most players there are really cheap and only tip .50 cents for every drink and then wonder why she rarely comes around. Give her a $5 chip right off the bat and make eye contact with her and smile and tell her to keep bringing them. Throw her a buck a drink after that. I've had it to the point where I have 3 or 4 drinks in front of me and I had to tell her to stop bringing them for a bit. 

    I personally wouldn't stay at Bill's. I wouldn't mind spending a little bit more money for a better room. I know you don't plan on staying in the room much, but eventually you will hit a wall and want a decent place to crash. Not that the Excalibur is a 5 star resort, but imo, it's better than Bill's. 

    Each place has it's benefits as far as location goes. Excal is closer to MGM, Mandalay, Luxor, all the south end strip places. MGM is great sportsbook and it's fun to bet and catch games there. Bill's is closer to center strip and the cheaper drinking and gambling locations like Harrah's, IP, Flamingo, O'Shea's(really cheap here), etc.

    BTW, don't place sports bets at the IP. Half the time there dry erase board with lines isn't accurate to what line they will give you for an event. It's a pretty shady practice imo. 

    Whatever you decide I hope you have a blast. Make sure you ask about comps and drink tickets and players club memberships. It will usually result in saving on buffets or comped meals and free or bogo drink specials. 


     
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    *call(not cool)
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    *call(not cool)
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:27 PM ET #70

    if you havent cemented any plans yet , if your looking for a good time of year rate wise its monday during the all star break in baseball.

     

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    if you havent cemented any plans yet , if your looking for a good time of year rate wise its monday during the all star break in baseball.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yavapai:

    if you havent cemented any plans yet , if your looking for a good time of year rate wise its monday during the all star break in baseball.

     


    Thanks for the tip. But the only thing that IS cemented is the dates...May 6-10 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yavapai:

    if you havent cemented any plans yet , if your looking for a good time of year rate wise its monday during the all star break in baseball.

     


    Thanks for the tip. But the only thing that IS cemented is the dates...May 6-10 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Just throwing my 2 cents in here because I love talking Vegas and I get there about every other month. 

    First off, I can't say this for sure since I don't know you but it would be very realistic for you to get burned out after 3 or 4 days if this is your first time. I say this because time flies and there is no last cool. You essentially have no idea what time it is ever and a lot of the time you are indoors so it is easy to lose track of time. 

    I love gambling at Bill's. It's probably some of the cheapest table games on the strip and it is the cheapest Hold em you will find. And if I can give you a tip for when you play there(it's $1/.50cent blinds and a minimum $20 buy in which is really cheap and they also have $30 tourneys that start every few hours) is throw the cocktail waitress $5 right off the bat. Most players there are really cheap and only tip .50 cents for every drink and then wonder why she rarely comes around. Give her a $5 chip right off the bat and make eye contact with her and smile and tell her to keep bringing them. Throw her a buck a drink after that. I've had it to the point where I have 3 or 4 drinks in front of me and I had to tell her to stop bringing them for a bit. 

    I personally wouldn't stay at Bill's. I wouldn't mind spending a little bit more money for a better room. I know you don't plan on staying in the room much, but eventually you will hit a wall and want a decent place to crash. Not that the Excalibur is a 5 star resort, but imo, it's better than Bill's. 

    Each place has it's benefits as far as location goes. Excal is closer to MGM, Mandalay, Luxor, all the south end strip places. MGM is great sportsbook and it's fun to bet and catch games there. Bill's is closer to center strip and the cheaper drinking and gambling locations like Harrah's, IP, Flamingo, O'Shea's(really cheap here), etc.

    BTW, don't place sports bets at the IP. Half the time there dry erase board with lines isn't accurate to what line they will give you for an event. It's a pretty shady practice imo. 

    Whatever you decide I hope you have a blast. Make sure you ask about comps and drink tickets and players club memberships. It will usually result in saving on buffets or comped meals and free or bogo drink specials. 



    Really appreciate the words Ktrain. I have lived in dorms and apartments with 3 dudes the last 5 years so I think I will be okay with Bills (lodging wise). Also, I am positive I will not be get burnt out, Vegas is the Mecca for gamblers...me making this trip will be like the first time a Muslim actually does take the pilgrimage to the real Mecca .  I will definitely keep that in mind about tipping the gals at Bills IF I play poker there...from what I read its not the most profitable experience because of the high number of small stacks at the table. Any suggestions on where to find some of the softest tables from your experience playing NLHE Ktrain? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Just throwing my 2 cents in here because I love talking Vegas and I get there about every other month. 

    First off, I can't say this for sure since I don't know you but it would be very realistic for you to get burned out after 3 or 4 days if this is your first time. I say this because time flies and there is no last cool. You essentially have no idea what time it is ever and a lot of the time you are indoors so it is easy to lose track of time. 

    I love gambling at Bill's. It's probably some of the cheapest table games on the strip and it is the cheapest Hold em you will find. And if I can give you a tip for when you play there(it's $1/.50cent blinds and a minimum $20 buy in which is really cheap and they also have $30 tourneys that start every few hours) is throw the cocktail waitress $5 right off the bat. Most players there are really cheap and only tip .50 cents for every drink and then wonder why she rarely comes around. Give her a $5 chip right off the bat and make eye contact with her and smile and tell her to keep bringing them. Throw her a buck a drink after that. I've had it to the point where I have 3 or 4 drinks in front of me and I had to tell her to stop bringing them for a bit. 

    I personally wouldn't stay at Bill's. I wouldn't mind spending a little bit more money for a better room. I know you don't plan on staying in the room much, but eventually you will hit a wall and want a decent place to crash. Not that the Excalibur is a 5 star resort, but imo, it's better than Bill's. 

    Each place has it's benefits as far as location goes. Excal is closer to MGM, Mandalay, Luxor, all the south end strip places. MGM is great sportsbook and it's fun to bet and catch games there. Bill's is closer to center strip and the cheaper drinking and gambling locations like Harrah's, IP, Flamingo, O'Shea's(really cheap here), etc.

    BTW, don't place sports bets at the IP. Half the time there dry erase board with lines isn't accurate to what line they will give you for an event. It's a pretty shady practice imo. 

    Whatever you decide I hope you have a blast. Make sure you ask about comps and drink tickets and players club memberships. It will usually result in saving on buffets or comped meals and free or bogo drink specials. 



    Really appreciate the words Ktrain. I have lived in dorms and apartments with 3 dudes the last 5 years so I think I will be okay with Bills (lodging wise). Also, I am positive I will not be get burnt out, Vegas is the Mecca for gamblers...me making this trip will be like the first time a Muslim actually does take the pilgrimage to the real Mecca .  I will definitely keep that in mind about tipping the gals at Bills IF I play poker there...from what I read its not the most profitable experience because of the high number of small stacks at the table. Any suggestions on where to find some of the softest tables from your experience playing NLHE Ktrain? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 12:37 AM ET #73

    great players love the game.....and many do not have a huge bankroll because they were successful in other parts of their life......

    they do bankroll management

    they are players not gamblers.......you will learn more from them then the typical gambler POS

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    great players love the game.....and many do not have a huge bankroll because they were successful in other parts of their life......

    they do bankroll management

    they are players not gamblers.......you will learn more from them then the typical gambler POS

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2012 - 1:35 AM ET #74

    Bills is definitely not a place to try and win significant money. It's a place to get drunk and and bull shit with people for cheap. I guess if I was going to try and make some serious coin I would look to MGM or Mandalay(although there probably won't be a ton of games here. I played at the Aria one night and that place was packed all night(i got kicked out around 4 or 5 am there my only night playing) and they had no shortage of games or players and were even opening up new tables into the early AM.
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    Bills is definitely not a place to try and win significant money. It's a place to get drunk and and bull shit with people for cheap. I guess if I was going to try and make some serious coin I would look to MGM or Mandalay(although there probably won't be a ton of games here. I played at the Aria one night and that place was packed all night(i got kicked out around 4 or 5 am there my only night playing) and they had no shortage of games or players and were even opening up new tables into the early AM.
     
     
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    Thanks Ktrain, I will look into those.

    Dare I ask what you got kicked out of Aria for? 
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    Thanks Ktrain, I will look into those.

    Dare I ask what you got kicked out of Aria for? 
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