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    POLL: IS CITI A BUY AT $29.44???

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    KOAJ
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 1:35 PM ET #51

    chris dodd just mentioned nationalization in the last half hour...asshole. mkts made another leg down

    assholes...all of them

    if they dont forgive the mortgage, Bama will pay for yours...dont worry
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    chris dodd just mentioned nationalization in the last half hour...asshole. mkts made another leg down

    assholes...all of them

    if they dont forgive the mortgage, Bama will pay for yours...dont worry
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 2:22 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    chris dodd just mentioned nationalization in the last half hour...asshole. mkts made another leg down

    assholes...all of them

    if they dont forgive the mortgage, Bama will pay for yours...dont worry


    I wish...lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    chris dodd just mentioned nationalization in the last half hour...asshole. mkts made another leg down

    assholes...all of them

    if they dont forgive the mortgage, Bama will pay for yours...dont worry


    I wish...lol


     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #53

    well I wonder what they will name the Mets new ballpark IF Citi gets nationalized? it's close to the Whitestone area of Flushing so how about "Whitestone Taxpayers Field" aka WTF!!!
     
    C stock hit an interday of 1.61. current with a hour and a half to go, 1.98
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    well I wonder what they will name the Mets new ballpark IF Citi gets nationalized? it's close to the Whitestone area of Flushing so how about "Whitestone Taxpayers Field" aka WTF!!!
     
    C stock hit an interday of 1.61. current with a hour and a half to go, 1.98
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 3:10 PM ET #54


     Maybe BAC can take it over...

    Meanwhile, Bank of America (BAC 3.49, -0.44) gets an added boost as Rochdale Financial Analyst Richard Bove , on CNBC, says "Bank of America is one of best buys he's ever seen on the NYSE."

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     Maybe BAC can take it over...

    Meanwhile, Bank of America (BAC 3.49, -0.44) gets an added boost as Rochdale Financial Analyst Richard Bove , on CNBC, says "Bank of America is one of best buys he's ever seen on the NYSE."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 3:12 PM ET #55

    dick bove is a complete loon

    he's been consistently wrong for the last 18 months

    rink - what happens when they take the TARP out at Citi Field?


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    dick bove is a complete loon

    he's been consistently wrong for the last 18 months

    rink - what happens when they take the TARP out at Citi Field?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 3:13 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


     Maybe BAC can take it over...

    Meanwhile, Bank of America (BAC 3.49, -0.44) gets an added boost as Rochdale Financial Analyst Richard Bove , on CNBC, says "Bank of America is one of best buys he's ever seen on the NYSE."



    I agree totally, at 2.50ish that was a HOT buy no doubt.

    They have said that the loan will be repaid in 3 yrs and I dont see them swirling at all, C is swirling..not BAC or WFC or ZION etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:


     Maybe BAC can take it over...

    Meanwhile, Bank of America (BAC 3.49, -0.44) gets an added boost as Rochdale Financial Analyst Richard Bove , on CNBC, says "Bank of America is one of best buys he's ever seen on the NYSE."



    I agree totally, at 2.50ish that was a HOT buy no doubt.

    They have said that the loan will be repaid in 3 yrs and I dont see them swirling at all, C is swirling..not BAC or WFC or ZION etc etc.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 4:00 PM ET #57

    white house trying to talk down nationalization.
     
    BAC should have stuck to their guns when they found out just how deeply fucked up Merrill was. Paulson threatened them with "no soup for you" when they wanted to back out. they should have just told King Henry "....and you little dog too" and walked.
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    white house trying to talk down nationalization.
     
    BAC should have stuck to their guns when they found out just how deeply fucked up Merrill was. Paulson threatened them with "no soup for you" when they wanted to back out. they should have just told King Henry "....and you little dog too" and walked.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #58

    I think a nationalization plan is the right thing to do here.  These banks are just too damn fucked up. and all these loans and shit are pouring good money after bad. 
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    I think a nationalization plan is the right thing to do here.  These banks are just too damn fucked up. and all these loans and shit are pouring good money after bad. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 4:42 PM ET #59

    What I dont get is that these banks/institutions didnt have insurance on these investments?

    Not that MBI and ABK are in great shape..but I have to wonder why they were so heavily leveraged and werent insured?


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    What I dont get is that these banks/institutions didnt have insurance on these investments?

    Not that MBI and ABK are in great shape..but I have to wonder why they were so heavily leveraged and werent insured?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 7:59 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    white house trying to talk down nationalization.
     
    BAC should have stuck to their guns when they found out just how deeply fucked up Merrill was. Paulson threatened them with "no soup for you" when they wanted to back out. they should have just told King Henry "....and you little dog too" and walked.


      Exactly...I think Lewis was strongarmed into the deal, even if it was a deal he had long wanted to make...he was told to do it or else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    white house trying to talk down nationalization.
     
    BAC should have stuck to their guns when they found out just how deeply fucked up Merrill was. Paulson threatened them with "no soup for you" when they wanted to back out. they should have just told King Henry "....and you little dog too" and walked.


      Exactly...I think Lewis was strongarmed into the deal, even if it was a deal he had long wanted to make...he was told to do it or else...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 7:09 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    I think a nationalization plan is the right thing to do here.  These banks are just too damn fucked up. and all these loans and shit are pouring good money after bad. 


    by nationalizing we pour more good money after bad

    let them fail gently, default the bad debt and let them restructure everything in ch 11
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    I think a nationalization plan is the right thing to do here.  These banks are just too damn fucked up. and all these loans and shit are pouring good money after bad. 


    by nationalizing we pour more good money after bad

    let them fail gently, default the bad debt and let them restructure everything in ch 11
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 8:38 AM ET #62

    Bank of America Corp. Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis, under siege from investors on concern the company may be taken over by the U.S. government, said he doesn’t need any more federal assistance and can “make it through this downturn on our own.”

    Lewis, speaking in a memorandum to employees yesterday as his stock price plummeted as much as 36 percent, said he aimed to “prove cynics and critics wrong” by spurning attempts at nationalization. Bank of America, the biggest U.S. bank by assets, has already received $45 billion in bank rescue funds.

    The 61-year-old banker defended the independence of his Charlotte, North Carolina-based lender as concern mounted that takeovers will wipe out shareholders of financial companies. New York-based Citigroup Inc., the No. 3 bank by assets, also slid as much as 36 percent yesterday.

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    Bank of America Corp. Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis, under siege from investors on concern the company may be taken over by the U.S. government, said he doesn’t need any more federal assistance and can “make it through this downturn on our own.”

    Lewis, speaking in a memorandum to employees yesterday as his stock price plummeted as much as 36 percent, said he aimed to “prove cynics and critics wrong” by spurning attempts at nationalization. Bank of America, the biggest U.S. bank by assets, has already received $45 billion in bank rescue funds.

    The 61-year-old banker defended the independence of his Charlotte, North Carolina-based lender as concern mounted that takeovers will wipe out shareholders of financial companies. New York-based Citigroup Inc., the No. 3 bank by assets, also slid as much as 36 percent yesterday.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 2:57 PM ET #63

    What I dont get is that these banks/institutions didnt have insurance on these investments?
     
    sorry Walls BUT I gotta LAUGH at THAT one. you mean like AIG "credit default swaps"? we have already discussed how those gonophs ran an undercapitalized, unregulated casino. the banks could have had oodles of their "insurance" and it would have been WORTHLESS.
     
    IF your talking stocks I guess they could have gone long some puts or short ETF's BUT for the mortgage bonds the CDS's were a JOKE.
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    What I dont get is that these banks/institutions didnt have insurance on these investments?
     
    sorry Walls BUT I gotta LAUGH at THAT one. you mean like AIG "credit default swaps"? we have already discussed how those gonophs ran an undercapitalized, unregulated casino. the banks could have had oodles of their "insurance" and it would have been WORTHLESS.
     
    IF your talking stocks I guess they could have gone long some puts or short ETF's BUT for the mortgage bonds the CDS's were a JOKE.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2009 - 5:28 AM ET #64

    Both C and BAC are insolvent they will both die without government intervention, if either goes to 0 the worldwide financial system with be thrown into chaos ...yes worse than it already is. Im just waiting for a "reputable" books bank to fail then the shit will really hit the fan in the land of degens.
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    Both C and BAC are insolvent they will both die without government intervention, if either goes to 0 the worldwide financial system with be thrown into chaos ...yes worse than it already is. Im just waiting for a "reputable" books bank to fail then the shit will really hit the fan in the land of degens.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2009 - 11:27 AM ET #65

    under a buck
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    under a buck
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2009 - 11:33 AM ET #66

    Yup and really should be zero

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    Yup and really should be zero

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2009 - 11:55 AM ET #67

    Well, there is a massive ton of short interest on both C, BAC, and GE--------any good news and the market makers will have a field day forcing shorts to cover.
     
    I damn sure am not saying to get long those 3, but I am saying to forget trying to short them-----that could be a total disaster first thing in the morning.
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    Well, there is a massive ton of short interest on both C, BAC, and GE--------any good news and the market makers will have a field day forcing shorts to cover.
     
    I damn sure am not saying to get long those 3, but I am saying to forget trying to short them-----that could be a total disaster first thing in the morning.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #68

    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.
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    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2009 - 11:21 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.

    So far so good.....am going to hold my breath, close my eyes, and pray------probably through the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.

    So far so good.....am going to hold my breath, close my eyes, and pray------probably through the weekend.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2009 - 7:21 AM ET #70

     GL man...really planning on holding through the weekend??

     Keep yer fingers crossed...

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     GL man...really planning on holding through the weekend??

     Keep yer fingers crossed...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2009 - 9:21 AM ET #71

    my buddy got long FAS a few days ago at 2.60 or so

    bastard is up 40%
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    my buddy got long FAS a few days ago at 2.60 or so

    bastard is up 40%
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2009 - 7:04 PM ET #72

    I don't know, Vermeer.  May get scared and bail out tomorrow or Friday.
     
    Can't bitch about a 50% gain in a week.  Sorry ass beggars like I can't be choosy nor greedy.
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    I don't know, Vermeer.  May get scared and bail out tomorrow or Friday.
     
    Can't bitch about a 50% gain in a week.  Sorry ass beggars like I can't be choosy nor greedy.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #73

     Nice going on C...that is a nice nice week!!

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     Nice going on C...that is a nice nice week!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.

    Going to bail out of Citibank (C) in pre-market this early AM at 1.85.

    Can't bitch about that.

    Going to pay taxes on it and put the rest in 10 oz gold bullion bars.

    "Eventually," shorts are going to get tired of covering this rally, which has no economic underpinnings and is based entirely on the fact that negativity was off the charts.  Not going to wait around and watch C go from 1.85 to 1.25 as soon as that farking dummy "Obama" runs his mouth again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Could be the dumbest trade I could do here, but I just ante-d up at with C at 1.04 risking 10k.
     
    I just think the negativity is off the charts, and anything could set off a short covering bomb.
     
    Time will tell.  Good luck to me.

    Going to bail out of Citibank (C) in pre-market this early AM at 1.85.

    Can't bitch about that.

    Going to pay taxes on it and put the rest in 10 oz gold bullion bars.

    "Eventually," shorts are going to get tired of covering this rally, which has no economic underpinnings and is based entirely on the fact that negativity was off the charts.  Not going to wait around and watch C go from 1.85 to 1.25 as soon as that farking dummy "Obama" runs his mouth again.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2009 - 10:00 AM ET #75

    nice trade ccl. my buddy dumped out of his FAS this morning

    doubled in 3 days
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    nice trade ccl. my buddy dumped out of his FAS this morning

    doubled in 3 days
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