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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 4:57 PM ET #1

    I guess we are in Feb now arent we?

    Tough trading long this market..not much to be positive about, I am close to selling a few speculative positions..
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I guess we are in Feb now arent we?

    Tough trading long this market..not much to be positive about, I am close to selling a few speculative positions..
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 5:05 PM ET #2

    CSCO burped, down 7% in after hours..more NAZ selling tomorrow.
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    CSCO burped, down 7% in after hours..more NAZ selling tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #3

    Wallstreetcappers what do you think about American Funds Growth A investment of $1000 ??????
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    Wallstreetcappers what do you think about American Funds Growth A investment of $1000 ??????
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 5:16 PM ET #4

    Why A shares? That is taking 3% right off the top.

    Are they outperforming the SPX for a large cap fund?

    Compare the fund to the S&P and see if the fees and load make it worth it..remember that most mutual funds have loads and yearly fees, somtimes these costs and illiquidity make it not worth the while.

    Illiquidity meaning many funds have trading restrictions..if you sell before a certain date you get dinged with a fee.
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    Why A shares? That is taking 3% right off the top.

    Are they outperforming the SPX for a large cap fund?

    Compare the fund to the S&P and see if the fees and load make it worth it..remember that most mutual funds have loads and yearly fees, somtimes these costs and illiquidity make it not worth the while.

    Illiquidity meaning many funds have trading restrictions..if you sell before a certain date you get dinged with a fee.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 5:24 PM ET #5

    They charged $50 up front fee  and I can pull it when ever I want to with no penalty at all.  I am trying to get into investing a little so I am not to familiar with it so I put $1000 in it to see what happens
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    They charged $50 up front fee  and I can pull it when ever I want to with no penalty at all.  I am trying to get into investing a little so I am not to familiar with it so I put $1000 in it to see what happens
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 5:26 PM ET #6

    Well looks like you are signed up. For your age I am sure that is fine.

    Is that 50 bucks a load credit that can be carried to another family fund?

    Meaning usually when you are charged a load, if you trade it from one fund to another, you dont pay the load again if it is to another member of the mutual fund family.
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    Well looks like you are signed up. For your age I am sure that is fine.

    Is that 50 bucks a load credit that can be carried to another family fund?

    Meaning usually when you are charged a load, if you trade it from one fund to another, you dont pay the load again if it is to another member of the mutual fund family.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 7:00 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    CSCO burped, down 7% in after hours..more NAZ selling tomorrow.

     

    Yep.......  My timing is impeccable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    CSCO burped, down 7% in after hours..more NAZ selling tomorrow.

     

    Yep.......  My timing is impeccable.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 7:05 PM ET #8

    i've bought csco all the way down,,not stopping now
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    i've bought csco all the way down,,not stopping now
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 7:08 PM ET #9

    I concur...

    Get CSCO into the teens, that is a 50% return waiting to happen.
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    I concur...

    Get CSCO into the teens, that is a 50% return waiting to happen.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2008 - 7:49 PM ET #10

    ACUS:  For any of you keeping track, and I have no idea why you would be, I believe something will be happening here very soon, and it better as they are probably down to their last $25 million in the bank. 
     
    Yesterday, according to their SEC filings, the exec's at ACUS LOADED themselves up with stock options, exercisable at 57 cents a share.  They also, on the same day according to the filing, ammended all their employment k's so it broadens the rights of execs to receive pay and benefits if they leave the company due to a "change of control" or other "good cause" - including pay cuts.
    It appears to me a buyout is forthcoming.   A week or so back, I doubled down on my original position and averaged my pps down to a whopping 98 cents.  Hopfully the company is worth that much to someone and I can at least break-even on this turd.
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    ACUS:  For any of you keeping track, and I have no idea why you would be, I believe something will be happening here very soon, and it better as they are probably down to their last $25 million in the bank. 
     
    Yesterday, according to their SEC filings, the exec's at ACUS LOADED themselves up with stock options, exercisable at 57 cents a share.  They also, on the same day according to the filing, ammended all their employment k's so it broadens the rights of execs to receive pay and benefits if they leave the company due to a "change of control" or other "good cause" - including pay cuts.
    It appears to me a buyout is forthcoming.   A week or so back, I doubled down on my original position and averaged my pps down to a whopping 98 cents.  Hopfully the company is worth that much to someone and I can at least break-even on this turd.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 8:27 AM ET #11

    could be a fuckin mess 2day,,,,,,,,,futures
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    could be a fuckin mess 2day,,,,,,,,,futures
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 9:21 AM ET #12


      I think it is probably wise to keep in mind that there is no evidence that the essential problem that started this mess will be significantly addressed much less cured any time soon.

     When I think of the proposed $600/person "solution," I laugh. Most of the people I have asked told me they were going to either a.save it b.pay debt off with it. Nobody has said "spend it" much less "pay part of a new mortgage with it." The housing mess is a long long term mess, not suited to ADD addled publics.

     And like Samuel Johnson's definition of a patron (one who looks with unconcern on a man struggling for life in the water, and, when he has reached ground, encumbers him with help.), if it ever materializes it will be  unnecessary.

     
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      I think it is probably wise to keep in mind that there is no evidence that the essential problem that started this mess will be significantly addressed much less cured any time soon.

     When I think of the proposed $600/person "solution," I laugh. Most of the people I have asked told me they were going to either a.save it b.pay debt off with it. Nobody has said "spend it" much less "pay part of a new mortgage with it." The housing mess is a long long term mess, not suited to ADD addled publics.

     And like Samuel Johnson's definition of a patron (one who looks with unconcern on a man struggling for life in the water, and, when he has reached ground, encumbers him with help.), if it ever materializes it will be  unnecessary.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 10:15 AM ET #13

    But banks have been preemptively slashing the values on their subprime-linked securities, figuring many of those guarantees won't materialize. And unless the ratings of Ambac and MBIA fall several notches to junk status, the additional losses for big banks would total between $30 billion and $40 billion. It's not an insignificant sum. But it's still far less than the $100 billion in writedowns Wall Street has already taken. As a result, many banks may be calculating that any losses they suffer could be less than the tens of billions Dinallo is demanding to prop up Ambac and MBIA.

    Investors, then, may have to brace for more pain, though it's not likely to be crippling. "A bailout is not going to happen," says Robert B. Lamb, a professor at New York University's Stern School of Business. "The downgrades are inevitable, and investors will have to take losses."

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    But banks have been preemptively slashing the values on their subprime-linked securities, figuring many of those guarantees won't materialize. And unless the ratings of Ambac and MBIA fall several notches to junk status, the additional losses for big banks would total between $30 billion and $40 billion. It's not an insignificant sum. But it's still far less than the $100 billion in writedowns Wall Street has already taken. As a result, many banks may be calculating that any losses they suffer could be less than the tens of billions Dinallo is demanding to prop up Ambac and MBIA.

    Investors, then, may have to brace for more pain, though it's not likely to be crippling. "A bailout is not going to happen," says Robert B. Lamb, a professor at New York University's Stern School of Business. "The downgrades are inevitable, and investors will have to take losses."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #14

    romney drops out,market goes up,,temporarily im sure
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    romney drops out,market goes up,,temporarily im sure
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #15

    boiler - a unified RNC behind mccain and a congress that will probably stay dem is a good thing

    gridlock
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    boiler - a unified RNC behind mccain and a congress that will probably stay dem is a good thing

    gridlock
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #16

    well, i guess i'm in IDMI for the long haul now wallstreetcapper!  hopefully we'll get another 250% up day soon. 
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    well, i guess i'm in IDMI for the long haul now wallstreetcapper!  hopefully we'll get another 250% up day soon. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #17

    why the mkt has run the last 90 minutes:

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- After coming up one vote short on their bill on Wednesday, Senate Democrats agreed Thursday to an economic stimulus bill backed by the Republican minority. The plan is similar to the House-passed measure, but would give tax rebate checks to seniors, veterans and disabled people. The bill also has provisions to prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving rebates. The Republican measure does not include an extension of unemployment benefits that was in the defeated Senate bill, nor does it give tax breaks for energy conservation. A vote on the floor on the Senate could come as soon as Thursday
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    why the mkt has run the last 90 minutes:

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- After coming up one vote short on their bill on Wednesday, Senate Democrats agreed Thursday to an economic stimulus bill backed by the Republican minority. The plan is similar to the House-passed measure, but would give tax rebate checks to seniors, veterans and disabled people. The bill also has provisions to prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving rebates. The Republican measure does not include an extension of unemployment benefits that was in the defeated Senate bill, nor does it give tax breaks for energy conservation. A vote on the floor on the Senate could come as soon as Thursday
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 2:46 PM ET #18

     

    I think this market is grasping for anything that will take people's minds off reality.Not that fantasy is a bad thing...it made an awful lot of money for a lot of people the past few years.
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    I think this market is grasping for anything that will take people's minds off reality.Not that fantasy is a bad thing...it made an awful lot of money for a lot of people the past few years.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:13 PM ET #19

    Wow..

    Big selloff over the last hour or so.

    Gunners..me too...thats ok for me, I see promise for what they are doing, and their burn rate is quite slow. I will add tomorrow I am sure.
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    Wow..

    Big selloff over the last hour or so.

    Gunners..me too...thats ok for me, I see promise for what they are doing, and their burn rate is quite slow. I will add tomorrow I am sure.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:19 PM ET #20

    keep me abreast of what you do.  not that i will follow your every move, but i'd be interested to know, if you don't mind. 
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    keep me abreast of what you do.  not that i will follow your every move, but i'd be interested to know, if you don't mind. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:27 PM ET #21

    No problem..

    Whenever people have interest I always post my trades..some suck, some dont.

    haha
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    No problem..

    Whenever people have interest I always post my trades..some suck, some dont.

    haha
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:33 PM ET #22

    this market =
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    this market =
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 3:40 PM ET #23

    This is thin, wild, wacky trading to say the least.
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    This is thin, wild, wacky trading to say the least.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2008 - 4:45 PM ET #24

    my CMO long just reported some nice earnings, beating estimates.  rate cuts are extremely good for this company and they haven't even realized all that yet.  i will probably hold this until the next earnings release, at least.  i'm long from $13.66, but only 100 shares.  wish i had bought more, i'm hoping for a double up. 
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    my CMO long just reported some nice earnings, beating estimates.  rate cuts are extremely good for this company and they haven't even realized all that yet.  i will probably hold this until the next earnings release, at least.  i'm long from $13.66, but only 100 shares.  wish i had bought more, i'm hoping for a double up. 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2008 - 8:33 AM ET #25

    added some  more IDMI myself yesterday....think a buyout will come long before an EMEA or FDA decision late this year.  Big pharma will know if it's worth the gamble and gobble them up if the promise is there.  $6 a share maybe?
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    added some  more IDMI myself yesterday....think a buyout will come long before an EMEA or FDA decision late this year.  Big pharma will know if it's worth the gamble and gobble them up if the promise is there.  $6 a share maybe?
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