"Shares of E-Trade Financial Corp. lost more than half their value Monday, plunging as the company faces more subprime-related write-downs and as analysts at Citigroup suggest a possible bankruptcy for the online broker".
more subprime coming back to bite these fools
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most active on the NASDAQ and biggest % decliner.
"Shares of E-Trade Financial Corp. lost more than half their value Monday, plunging as the company faces more subprime-related write-downs and as analysts at Citigroup suggest a possible bankruptcy for the online broker".
you will probably get all kinds of vultures circling including the likes of Carl Icahn and others. wouldn't be suprised to even see a "value investor" like Buffet take a position. after all, he once owned a +10% position in US Air
you will probably get all kinds of vultures circling including the likes of Carl Icahn and others. wouldn't be suprised to even see a "value investor" like Buffet take a position. after all, he once owned a +10% position in US Air
People opening new shorts on ETFC today had better be careful
true, clay BUT thier going to get margin calls out the ass. as I remeber when I was a broker, those come out in the mid afternoon so we will see what happens the last hour today.
wouldn't put on a short here BUT wouldn't buy for a "dead cat bounce" either.
People opening new shorts on ETFC today had better be careful
true, clay BUT thier going to get margin calls out the ass. as I remeber when I was a broker, those come out in the mid afternoon so we will see what happens the last hour today.
wouldn't put on a short here BUT wouldn't buy for a "dead cat bounce" either.
Agreed, I wouldn't buy either, but I'd buy long before I went short if a gun's to the head.
Believe me, and you know this better than I being an ex-broker.....there are suckers galore out there today opening up brand new shorts on the news today.
And unless they're nimble as hell and know what they're up against, they're going to take a vicious whipsaw to their account as soon as takeover rumors start flying.
Agreed, I wouldn't buy either, but I'd buy long before I went short if a gun's to the head.
Believe me, and you know this better than I being an ex-broker.....there are suckers galore out there today opening up brand new shorts on the news today.
And unless they're nimble as hell and know what they're up against, they're going to take a vicious whipsaw to their account as soon as takeover rumors start flying.
E-Trade ain't going away.....it'll just get bought out by AMTD. This deal has been in the works for years, and now it'll get done.
The time to short ETFC was back in July.....of course, I didn't do it. Only suckers are shorting today.
Typical.
The suckers who piled on the "short ETFC" train Monday sure as hell got taken.
I didn't have the balls to buy it long for a short term trade when it did get to the 3s on Monday, so I shouldn't run my gdmf-ing mouth. I just sat there looking like an a--hole and did nothing.
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Yeah, Rink, I'd cover here in the mid 3s.
All the takeover rumors will run now.
E-Trade ain't going away.....it'll just get bought out by AMTD. This deal has been in the works for years, and now it'll get done.
The time to short ETFC was back in July.....of course, I didn't do it. Only suckers are shorting today.
Typical.
The suckers who piled on the "short ETFC" train Monday sure as hell got taken.
I didn't have the balls to buy it long for a short term trade when it did get to the 3s on Monday, so I shouldn't run my gdmf-ing mouth. I just sat there looking like an a--hole and did nothing.
looking like the shorts may be correct afterall but were just early on the initial dump. stock down 0.76 tuesday 11-20 @ 3.95. in retro the time to shaort was after that 'dead cat bounce"
looking like the shorts may be correct afterall but were just early on the initial dump. stock down 0.76 tuesday 11-20 @ 3.95. in retro the time to shaort was after that 'dead cat bounce"
got it on my stock watch. want to see what it does close to the previous low (pretty close now). MAY buy EFTC for a trade BUT I think the margin calls will probably take CFC lower. could end up mirroring the ETFC chart.
ETFC is obviously for sale.
got it on my stock watch. want to see what it does close to the previous low (pretty close now). MAY buy EFTC for a trade BUT I think the margin calls will probably take CFC lower. could end up mirroring the ETFC chart.
My opinion here.....so take it for it's worth or isn't.......
The potential up for ETFC due to the takeover yakkety yak is higher than the potential down for ETFC due to financial chaos.
I'll make a decision on this one later in the day, but if it starts to run up quick on volume, then I am getting on baord the train for a quick day trade. Not a HUGE gamble, but 5000 shares looking to close out at day's end and not lose sleep tonight about what could or may not happen. If money is there, then I'm taking it and running.
Rink-
My opinion here.....so take it for it's worth or isn't.......
The potential up for ETFC due to the takeover yakkety yak is higher than the potential down for ETFC due to financial chaos.
I'll make a decision on this one later in the day, but if it starts to run up quick on volume, then I am getting on baord the train for a quick day trade. Not a HUGE gamble, but 5000 shares looking to close out at day's end and not lose sleep tonight about what could or may not happen. If money is there, then I'm taking it and running.
The potential up for ETFC due to the takeover yakkety yak is higher than the potential down for ETFC due to financial chaos.
agree but I might wait a day or so. only reason is I don't think traders are going to want to hold stock over a long weekend considering current market conditions.
The potential up for ETFC due to the takeover yakkety yak is higher than the potential down for ETFC due to financial chaos.
agree but I might wait a day or so. only reason is I don't think traders are going to want to hold stock over a long weekend considering current market conditions.
Not going to be around to post today, but "if" ETFC gets some sort of gap up at the open, then I'm canning it and taking the money. If down or flat from 3.84, then I'll play it by ear.
Cheers
Not going to be around to post today, but "if" ETFC gets some sort of gap up at the open, then I'm canning it and taking the money. If down or flat from 3.84, then I'll play it by ear.
GOOD trade became a GREAT trade friday, clay. 5.28 + 1.02 with half an hour to go on the friday "short" session and an intraday of 5.49
your speculation was correct. CNBC friday.....
"E-Trade Financial, the beleaguered online trader, is in talks to sell itself, according to people familiar with the situation. Bankers say that while there is plenty of interest, it is far from clear whether anything will get done."
GOOD trade became a GREAT trade friday, clay. 5.28 + 1.02 with half an hour to go on the friday "short" session and an intraday of 5.49
your speculation was correct. CNBC friday.....
"E-Trade Financial, the beleaguered online trader, is in talks to sell itself, according to people familiar with the situation. Bankers say that while there is plenty of interest, it is far from clear whether anything will get done."