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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 10:46 PM ET #426

    @icemantbi

     Sorry....had a friend come by and sit in the back yard around Race 4 time.....you into soccer?

    So am I in a big way and know tendencies too...

     

    I am on PSV tomorrow to win at home....hit it hard but also played 2-2 , 3-3 and less for 1-1 correct score to back up....$200 to win 

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     Sorry....had a friend come by and sit in the back yard around Race 4 time.....you into soccer?

    So am I in a big way and know tendencies too...

     

    I am on PSV tomorrow to win at home....hit it hard but also played 2-2 , 3-3 and less for 1-1 correct score to back up....$200 to win 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 10:49 PM ET #427

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     I loved the 5....the other thing I do...I watch some races from the previous week....ask for Mohawk and a date and you can watch every race from the previous week

     

    I learned how to do this last couple of years and it made a big difference....I don't always do it but I did for tonight

     

    That being said, I left $160 on the table by being stubborn that a 3 yr old wouldn't beat older mares who have proven themselves ....oh well....see you tomorrow

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    @icemantbi

     I loved the 5....the other thing I do...I watch some races from the previous week....ask for Mohawk and a date and you can watch every race from the previous week

     

    I learned how to do this last couple of years and it made a big difference....I don't always do it but I did for tonight

     

    That being said, I left $160 on the table by being stubborn that a 3 yr old wouldn't beat older mares who have proven themselves ....oh well....see you tomorrow

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 3:54 PM ET #428

    Tuesday Conditions:

    West wind about 10-13 mph gusts....directly into the face of horses leaving the gate and finish the long stretch......this favours horses who leave on good fractions and horses who like to take the lead on the backstretch before the half

     

    Very warm tonight but the humidex is drier so might see some horses blast and win on the engine like BUZZ did the other night 

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    Tuesday Conditions:

    West wind about 10-13 mph gusts....directly into the face of horses leaving the gate and finish the long stretch......this favours horses who leave on good fractions and horses who like to take the lead on the backstretch before the half

     

    Very warm tonight but the humidex is drier so might see some horses blast and win on the engine like BUZZ did the other night 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 4:35 PM ET #429

    Got an 'instinct' gut call on a KEY that is 9-2 in a wide open race...so I will play it for $1 likely with some others .....after capping the first couple of races...really liking the potential for a big payout tonight

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    Got an 'instinct' gut call on a KEY that is 9-2 in a wide open race...so I will play it for $1 likely with some others .....after capping the first couple of races...really liking the potential for a big payout tonight

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 5:56 PM ET #430

    Absolutely love tonight.....a couple of horses that could be KEYED but are 9-2 and 6-1 in the book....I see even a reasonable 10-1 play as a potential KEY

     

    Not overthinking this....3 Plays, barring any major equipment or driver changes:

     

    20 cent plays:

    347 / ALL /1 / 578 / 14 = $30.40

    347/ 267 / 1/ 578 / 148 = $16.20

    34 / 267 / 1 / 1456789 / 14 = $16.80

    347/ 267 / 135 / 578/ 148 = $48.60

     

    Overall Cost = $112

     

    If it comes 34 / 267 / 1 / 578 / 14 >>> will have an 80 cent play.... this would cost $7.20 for 20 cent play and $36 for a $1 play but the beauty is....the way I have set that up above...you can win on at least 2 tickets with some bombs or 1 ticket with one significant bomb

     

    I think the Trotter in Race #3  > 1 horse is tonnes the best if it can get off of the gate with Chris and last week with Randy was to get a flatline and see that it did not break > look what Christoforou did in the qualifier an_speechless

     

    In race #2 > I really really like #7 to win at first asking with JMAC and MacKintosh training....look at qualifiers and first time with this combo....even before it raced well with the old trainer!

     

    In race #4 > Sylvain Grenier is kicking himself off and putting JMAC on at a discount claimer at 6-1 morning line and when this happens, a horse usually wins as the trainer expects to recoup on the win cash as well...

    Will update if major changes.....they should be released in the next 20 minutes

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    Absolutely love tonight.....a couple of horses that could be KEYED but are 9-2 and 6-1 in the book....I see even a reasonable 10-1 play as a potential KEY

     

    Not overthinking this....3 Plays, barring any major equipment or driver changes:

     

    20 cent plays:

    347 / ALL /1 / 578 / 14 = $30.40

    347/ 267 / 1/ 578 / 148 = $16.20

    34 / 267 / 1 / 1456789 / 14 = $16.80

    347/ 267 / 135 / 578/ 148 = $48.60

     

    Overall Cost = $112

     

    If it comes 34 / 267 / 1 / 578 / 14 >>> will have an 80 cent play.... this would cost $7.20 for 20 cent play and $36 for a $1 play but the beauty is....the way I have set that up above...you can win on at least 2 tickets with some bombs or 1 ticket with one significant bomb

     

    I think the Trotter in Race #3  > 1 horse is tonnes the best if it can get off of the gate with Chris and last week with Randy was to get a flatline and see that it did not break > look what Christoforou did in the qualifier an_speechless

     

    In race #2 > I really really like #7 to win at first asking with JMAC and MacKintosh training....look at qualifiers and first time with this combo....even before it raced well with the old trainer!

     

    In race #4 > Sylvain Grenier is kicking himself off and putting JMAC on at a discount claimer at 6-1 morning line and when this happens, a horse usually wins as the trainer expects to recoup on the win cash as well...

    Will update if major changes.....they should be released in the next 20 minutes

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 6:13 PM ET #431

    UPDATE:

    Race #1 > both 3 and 4 have favourable equipment changes

    Race #2 > #1 which is Luc Roy's horse trained by Moreau has a blind bridle so I think he is going for it!!

     

    No other significant changes except for in Race #3 > the #9 horse with Sylvain and Ben B. is SCRatched

     

    Tweaking my plays slightly...

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    UPDATE:

    Race #1 > both 3 and 4 have favourable equipment changes

    Race #2 > #1 which is Luc Roy's horse trained by Moreau has a blind bridle so I think he is going for it!!

     

    No other significant changes except for in Race #3 > the #9 horse with Sylvain and Ben B. is SCRatched

     

    Tweaking my plays slightly...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 7:49 PM ET #432

    So far > 4 / 2 (#7 almost nipped this horse on the wire at 5-1) 

    Race 3 about to go off

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    So far > 4 / 2 (#7 almost nipped this horse on the wire at 5-1) 

    Race 3 about to go off

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 7:54 PM ET #433

    #1 goes three wide at the half and wins EASILY in race #3!!!!!

     

    I have an 80 center alive bro...

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    #1 goes three wide at the half and wins EASILY in race #3!!!!!

     

    I have an 80 center alive bro...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 8:16 PM ET #434

    #5 at 6-1 morning line with 1st time JMAC looks unreal....huge hold....dropping down and now made favourite but was third fave before the post parade

     

    Horse punchers live see it.....and JMAC has not won a race tonight

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    #5 at 6-1 morning line with 1st time JMAC looks unreal....huge hold....dropping down and now made favourite but was third fave before the post parade

     

    Horse punchers live see it.....and JMAC has not won a race tonight

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 8:34 PM ET #435

    Ahhh shit...the brought in the #3 and I got a $40 pick3 2x.....it was my 4th favourite horse in the race

     

    Pick5s are paying over $500 , 600 and 700 for top 3 trotters

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    Ahhh shit...the brought in the #3 and I got a $40 pick3 2x.....it was my 4th favourite horse in the race

     

    Pick5s are paying over $500 , 600 and 700 for top 3 trotters

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 9:34 PM ET #436

    Wow you just missed the pick 5, the #3 in the 4th kiles ya.

    Busy tonight but will be back at er on Thursday an_cheers

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    Wow you just missed the pick 5, the #3 in the 4th kiles ya.

    Busy tonight but will be back at er on Thursday an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 10:52 PM ET #437

    Fuck!!!.... I know...I had this picked out with this one > why did I not add the 3....I like it!!

     

    34 / 267 / 1 / 1456789 / 14 = $16.80

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    Fuck!!!.... I know...I had this picked out with this one > why did I not add the 3....I like it!!

     

    34 / 267 / 1 / 1456789 / 14 = $16.80

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 4:06 PM ET #438

    Thursday Weather:

    - N to NW wind about 7-10 mph tonight and no rain likely until around the 6-8th races....

    - very warm so I expect that anything is possible with little wind resistance down the lane and the wind can be used in places to assist a move to the front

     

    Similar weather occurred on Tuesday and we saw a mix bag of racing styles but mostly front speed was effective 

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    Thursday Weather:

    - N to NW wind about 7-10 mph tonight and no rain likely until around the 6-8th races....

    - very warm so I expect that anything is possible with little wind resistance down the lane and the wind can be used in places to assist a move to the front

     

    Similar weather occurred on Tuesday and we saw a mix bag of racing styles but mostly front speed was effective 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 4:47 PM ET #439

    Change in forecast....in last hour

    Thunderstorm here and potential there too from 7-8pm but also shifting winds from N to S and increasing 

     

    If track is sloppy...shy away from friend end speed a little less as the inside slows

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    Change in forecast....in last hour

    Thunderstorm here and potential there too from 7-8pm but also shifting winds from N to S and increasing 

     

    If track is sloppy...shy away from friend end speed a little less as the inside slows

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:26 PM ET #440

    Race #1 - depending on condition, they could screw around here but two horses are the class                 >   #2 , 4

    Upset potential: 356710

     

    Race #2 - everyone and his sister is going to be gaga with #3's times and lets face it, it is a $440K yearling so yes, it fits but this is the home track that is 2 seconds slower than the Meadowlands so two other horses fit > #7 for sure and especially with the fact it keeps on improving and has hopples to help it and they raced cautiously....

     

    But I really like ETERNAL LEE #4 which will be racing its 3rd race lifetime....look what the others did in their third race...this horse with the right trip could win this race in 154 ' 3 flat!! BEWARE and do not leave out since trotters can shave 3-5 seconds of improvement sometimes if they are already fast and this one is!!

     

    Race #3 - some more babies....love it 

    - definitely take 248 .....and you have to put the Jack Darling horse in with Jodi #7 because sometimes they start one of their horses this way....leave him on the rail and then all of a sudden the horse races aggro and shaves 2 seconds off....very well bred and I was frustrated how it raced its last race

    -there are other OSS horses in that race but they do not have the closing back halfs to stress this top 4 

     

     

     

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    Race #1 - depending on condition, they could screw around here but two horses are the class                 >   #2 , 4

    Upset potential: 356710

     

    Race #2 - everyone and his sister is going to be gaga with #3's times and lets face it, it is a $440K yearling so yes, it fits but this is the home track that is 2 seconds slower than the Meadowlands so two other horses fit > #7 for sure and especially with the fact it keeps on improving and has hopples to help it and they raced cautiously....

     

    But I really like ETERNAL LEE #4 which will be racing its 3rd race lifetime....look what the others did in their third race...this horse with the right trip could win this race in 154 ' 3 flat!! BEWARE and do not leave out since trotters can shave 3-5 seconds of improvement sometimes if they are already fast and this one is!!

     

    Race #3 - some more babies....love it 

    - definitely take 248 .....and you have to put the Jack Darling horse in with Jodi #7 because sometimes they start one of their horses this way....leave him on the rail and then all of a sudden the horse races aggro and shaves 2 seconds off....very well bred and I was frustrated how it raced its last race

    -there are other OSS horses in that race but they do not have the closing back halfs to stress this top 4 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:31 PM ET #441

    Made some money on soccer plays today, now let's blow it on the ponies an_roll_laugh hope we have a profitable evening.  I should be able to catch the whole card tonight

     

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    Made some money on soccer plays today, now let's blow it on the ponies an_roll_laugh hope we have a profitable evening.  I should be able to catch the whole card tonight

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:39 PM ET #442

    Race #4 - racing for over $60 000

    #1 and #4 fit and in fact, if the track is off....#4 grinds down the lane and can upset #1 for sure!!...this horse is impressive as you will see what i mean down the lane...it keeps coming

    - Mr Fritter #5 is getting close so you never know 

    -I am not gaga over the morning line fave from Meadowlands..but it has to go in 

    -yes to # 6 

     

    Is this race an ALL RACE???

    -#8 with JMAC has a shot but I don't it can get there on this field and likely will battle at least 3-4 horses for position and with a track/rain as a question mark, do you put these outside horses in unless they can close? 

    - I think your #7 Red Overbach actually can win here too since Phil Hudon is a Trot training /driving specialist

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    Race #4 - racing for over $60 000

    #1 and #4 fit and in fact, if the track is off....#4 grinds down the lane and can upset #1 for sure!!...this horse is impressive as you will see what i mean down the lane...it keeps coming

    - Mr Fritter #5 is getting close so you never know 

    -I am not gaga over the morning line fave from Meadowlands..but it has to go in 

    -yes to # 6 

     

    Is this race an ALL RACE???

    -#8 with JMAC has a shot but I don't it can get there on this field and likely will battle at least 3-4 horses for position and with a track/rain as a question mark, do you put these outside horses in unless they can close? 

    - I think your #7 Red Overbach actually can win here too since Phil Hudon is a Trot training /driving specialist

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:43 PM ET #443

    @icemantbi

     Nice!!...I worked on my NCAAF handicapping and forum....laid off soccer and probably will except for 3 games this weekend:

    -Southampton is scoring well and could surprise this year > paying 2.8 on the road

    -love Celta Vigo at 2.4 at home vs Ath. Bilbao who are not traditionally good on the road and just had a tough game with Barcelona so this is a letdown game

    -Montpellier is a joy to watch....attack all the time and have beautiful setups....they will tie or upset @ Lille who has a new coach and lost some key scorers and still playing ok....but this game will be fun to bet and watch at 3.5 win and 3.0 tie

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    @icemantbi

     Nice!!...I worked on my NCAAF handicapping and forum....laid off soccer and probably will except for 3 games this weekend:

    -Southampton is scoring well and could surprise this year > paying 2.8 on the road

    -love Celta Vigo at 2.4 at home vs Ath. Bilbao who are not traditionally good on the road and just had a tough game with Barcelona so this is a letdown game

    -Montpellier is a joy to watch....attack all the time and have beautiful setups....they will tie or upset @ Lille who has a new coach and lost some key scorers and still playing ok....but this game will be fun to bet and watch at 3.5 win and 3.0 tie

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:52 PM ET #444

    I'm following DJ in soccer he has been money so far this year an_cheers

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    I'm following DJ in soccer he has been money so far this year an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:53 PM ET #445

    I like Mr. Fritter it's only a matter of time before he gets a win

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    I like Mr. Fritter it's only a matter of time before he gets a win

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 5:54 PM ET #446

    Race #5 - as soon as I saw better post and #1 retaining JMAC....I love it....its ready to pop

    -BEWARE #5 ....remember I liked this horse but then it broke off gate but look at its unreal recovery down the lane....the qualifier with the trainer is stunning and this horse if it behaves might be able to do 153'1 in its second race!

    -67 have to go in ...don't get all excited about times for #7....it has trouble finishing races and 0 - 15 

    -#8 is a horse I would not put in, but would bet FLAT if still alive since the trainer is 0 - 27 and it does not have quite enough horsepower down the lane to get the job done

     

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    Race #5 - as soon as I saw better post and #1 retaining JMAC....I love it....its ready to pop

    -BEWARE #5 ....remember I liked this horse but then it broke off gate but look at its unreal recovery down the lane....the qualifier with the trainer is stunning and this horse if it behaves might be able to do 153'1 in its second race!

    -67 have to go in ...don't get all excited about times for #7....it has trouble finishing races and 0 - 15 

    -#8 is a horse I would not put in, but would bet FLAT if still alive since the trainer is 0 - 27 and it does not have quite enough horsepower down the lane to get the job done

     

    ......WATCHING FOR PROGRAM CHANGES and then will show you what I am playing

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 6:19 PM ET #447

    Looking forward to your final plays an_cheers

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    Looking forward to your final plays an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 6:47 PM ET #448

    Making 4 plays: (main play first)

    4 /

    347 /

    2478 ...and #6, #5 and #1 on a total hunch this is the race they mess around ...if not convinced, Key#4 but #2 has an equipment change with hopples in so likely the horse is going to try to pace evenly off the gate 

     1456/

    57  = $33.60

     

     Ticket #2:

    4 / 347 / 2478 / 146 / 1678 = $28.80

    Ticket #3:

    24610 / 347 / 24 / 146 / 57 = $28.80

    Ticket #4:

    246 / 347 / 24 / 145689 / 7 = $21.60

     

    BOL....have a chance at an 80 cent win or other combos spending $105 tonight

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    Making 4 plays: (main play first)

    4 /

    347 /

    2478 ...and #6, #5 and #1 on a total hunch this is the race they mess around ...if not convinced, Key#4 but #2 has an equipment change with hopples in so likely the horse is going to try to pace evenly off the gate 

     1456/

    57  = $33.60

     

     Ticket #2:

    4 / 347 / 2478 / 146 / 1678 = $28.80

    Ticket #3:

    24610 / 347 / 24 / 146 / 57 = $28.80

    Ticket #4:

    246 / 347 / 24 / 145689 / 7 = $21.60

     

    BOL....have a chance at an 80 cent win or other combos spending $105 tonight

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 7:12 PM ET #449

    #4 is the opening winner.  Good call

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    #4 is the opening winner.  Good call

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2021 - 7:13 PM ET #450

    I added #2 toy ticket wasn't even close to the finish

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    I added #2 toy ticket wasn't even close to the finish

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