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Killer_B

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 10:12 PM ET #26

The bottom line here is corporations or businesses will do whatever is necessary not to pay an entry level know-nothing $15 an hour. I have no problem with it, it's complete insanity...

BTW I have no problem using kiosks, most of the cashiers are incompetent or look like pirates, I tend to avoid them whenever possible.

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 10:20 PM ET #27

I call BULLSHIT.

When was the last time you were at a Wendy's, McDonalds, Burger King or Taco Bell???

It's OK, you can say it, go ahead.

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 10:39 PM ET #28

NATIONAL BOYCOTT OF WENDY'S...

https://www.pcusa.org/news/2016/5/10/support-grows-national-boycott-wendys-restaurants/

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 10:56 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

NATIONAL BOYCOTT OF WENDY'S...

https://www.pcusa.org/news/2016/5/10/support-grows-national-boycott-wendys-restaurants/

Oh yeah the Presbyterian Church supports it, that will bring Wendys down to it's knees

I will make sure to eat there at least 3 times a week now. Salad or grilled chicken of course. Not going to put myself in an early grave eating that fast food crap

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 11:09 PM ET #30

Wendy's not buying Florida tomatoes.

Buying Mexican tomatoes.

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Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 12:29 AM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

The bottom line here is corporations or businesses will do whatever is necessary not to pay an entry level know-nothing $15 an hour. I have no problem with it, it's complete insanity...

BTW I have no problem using kiosks, most of the cashiers are incompetent or look like pirates, I tend to avoid them whenever possible.

This idea of I can be a better cashier is one that appeals to people that would make good cashiers in life. Seems like angle that can attract people like that should be cashiers

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Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 2:16 PM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:

Oh yeah the Presbyterian Church supports it, that will bring Wendys down to it's knees

I will make sure to eat there at least 3 times a week now. Salad or grilled chicken of course. Not going to put myself in an early grave eating that fast food crap

Finally a very entertaining thread that , unfortunately, I can strongly relate to...

The low quality of people in this industry as a whole is so so sad...but as pointed out numerous times, these jobs are supposively, only steps to better vocations than just customer service..

If only I hadn't gone out back with that cook when I was 13...

Oh well, can't look back at shoulda, woulda, and couldas..... I've been so fortunate to have such a blessed life (like GG) I could NEVER complain..."what a long strange trip it's been"

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Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 3:05 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

I agree with Lippsman.. This is such a no brainer for restauruant owners, and will be coming to fast food places soon, particularly here in CA with $15/hour being phased in. Any difficulty that prior businesses had with kiosks (like Wendy's) could be related to any number of things, including a poorly designed/navigation of the screens. This will be figured out, and a $15/hour employee alternative will force the owner to figure out what issues arise.

This is such an unfortunate outcome ; puts unnecessary pressure on young people that want jobs, but owners realize they are not worth it. Such a novel concept, huh ?

I wonder why people think that minimum wage is supposed to be a living wage ? It's not supposed to be , and its supposed to piss you off enough to better yourself and get yourself a better job. It's called mobility.

People do not "deserve" anything. They deserve what they are "worth" on the open market.

Mobility is not the reason minimum wage jobs exist, nor will it disappear if minimum wage is raised. Mobility is about personal character and personal choices, maybe parenting, but a lot goes into a person making career decisions beyond having a minimum wage job.

It truly is a cultural war we are in. Those that believe people making their own life choices and believe in personal accountability and the other side that believes that govt, outside influences and on this case coroporation a and businesses are responsible for shaping a person's choices and career path.

I never worked a fast food, minimum wage job in my life. Yet I moved upward in all jobs and continue to. I never worked a fast food or minimum wage job ever yet I finished highschool and went to college, finished my undergraduate working a a non-minimum wage job for the school that gave me actual real experience and training for my degree. I never worked a fast food or minimum wage job during my post graduate degree, I worked a full time job that my undergraduate degree afforded me. It was also that job that helped supliment costs of my postgraduate degree.

All with out the Minimum wage experience. And even if I had been paid the Relative $15 equivalent work fast food, I would have still gone to school and still sought to move forward because I believed that I could do more, make more and was willing to work for it. I did not need a business or coporation to piss me of or inspire me.

But it's a cultural view in the end of those that believe in personal respsonsibility and accountability and those that do not

Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

This is such an unfortunate outcome ; puts unnecessary pressure on young people that want jobs, but owners realize they are not worth it. Such a novel concept, huh ?

People do not "deserve" anything. They deserve what they are "worth" on the open market.

But it's a cultural view in the end of those that believe in personal respsonsibility and accountability and those that do not

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Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 5:33 PM ET #34

Min wage is the chain that chokes the lower class and keeps them unable to progress forward.

Not all who are min wage workers are slaves, but the majority are. I worked many QSR jobs when I was younger and was a server during college..its tough work. Usually it is thankless, tiring, smelly, stressful and unrewarding. People get themselves in a bad spot due to choices, or just the cruel nature of mortality..that nothing you did or can do makes it possible to avoid disaster, it happens like that all the time.

The upper class and biz owners need slave labor, whatever the figure is in order to maintain profit margins and pay their risk salaries and returns on their investment. Without a min wage worker, capitalism does not work the same, the advantage and incentive go away if costs go out of line. Its the same reason why corporations have turned to 2 decimal places in serving sizes and play marketing games to fool the public.

Keeping slave labor in place also creates a consumer for higher margin trash food that corps peddle to those who are unable due to time, education or funds to buy and prepare healthy food.

I remember when I was younger that I didnt concentrate much on the quality of the food I ate or the ingredients in those foods. Now I am looking at most every ingredient list, I take the time to prepare foods and purchase things which are healthy and better for my family. People who are stuck on the bottom are LESS able to focus on that second tier type concerns because as what was mentioned above...MIN wage isnt meant to be a living wage, so those stuck in this position are forced to work more than one job and are less able, motivated, whatever to better themselves, prepare healthy food and take care of needs.

Its disgusting for sure, I hate seeing people making really bad decisions but unfortunately society will always exist with a gap between those who are in a bad spot like this and those who are not.

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Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 9:40 PM ET #35

I hang out with out of different people and one group of international folks always seem to have a different perspective on a lot of these issues.

First off they would say that working two jobs is a privilege, you would be lucky to be able to find two steady jobs that can accommodate your schedule and pay you. They say that America is so full of opportunity that no one should be on welfare. They laugh at Americans in their trailor parks collecting their welfare, ebt and fake disability or trying to cash in on settlements. Anything other than actually working. Mind you these international guys are minorities and ESL. so for them the idea that considering the challenges, socially, racially and linguistically, the idea of any white on the govt tab is completely inexcusable. Yet the majority of the wefare in the country goes to the trailer park welfare white culture that has multiple generations of doing this.

Second they said that what idiot wouldn't want a higher minimum wage for themsleves and everyone? When people are given the prospect of them and others making more money, who would say no thank you to that? How stupid and disconnected from reality do you have to be to not want more money for yourselves and others? Maybe this would take some of the trailer park white majority of America that is the tax payers burden off of welfare because they couldn't make excuses about not making enough money to make working worth it vs collecting Thier govt checks.

Third they said that the effects on prices, corporations whatever are not the issue. Smart businesses will succeed, stupid ones will fail. Smart people will figure out how to succeed as things change and stupid people will not and fail and need to grasp to status quo because they can't evolve and figure it out. The weak are absolutely terrified of change because it requires effort on their part and they know that the smart people will figure out how to succeed while they are completely lost.

They would say, protecting businesses? That we need to condition people to convince to move upward? Is this even America?

I hang out with out of different people and one group of international folks always seem to have a different perspective on a lot of these issues.

They would say, protecting businesses? That we need to condition people to convince to move upward? Is this even America?

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 8:47 AM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

Do you understand that the Corporate CEO to Workers ratio used to be 30-1 back in 1970? Here we are about half a century forward and the ratio is now 500-1. Have workers wages increased 16 fold also? Hardly. The Middle Class worker has been systematically assassinated.

Ironically the best example of free-market Capitalism is the Japan Model. If a Japanese CEO skrews up he is shamed to the point of suicide. The American Model has the CEO getting a pat on the back for grabbing the available Corporate Welfare.

I am not up to speed on the Verizon situation and not qualified to comment. Obviously it affects you more in NJ than myself here in CT.

Very good point Goose

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 3:21 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

Sheetz on the East Coast has been using these for years.

Same with Wawa and other places, but the comparison isnt very good, that is for sandwich orders and wraps, very small volume vs a place like Wendy's.

mainman11111

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 4:27 PM ET #38

1/40 kids these days has autism
1/50 kids is bipolar
1/33 has adhd
1/7 is on dope
1/10 is on prescribed drugs
1/10 comes from a broken family
1/8 has a felony record
1/4 thinks we should give them the world

and then you got
ADD, learning disabilities, alcohol...... etc etc...
i can go on and on and on...

dl36

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 4:55 PM ET #39

1/16 aliases pretend to have a medical or clinical

Background posing as a doctor or some other medical professional

mainman11111

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #40

ignorance is bliss

america has come a long way...

mainman11111

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 5:25 PM ET #41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2L7q5IqthM

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grocery store with no employees!

view it and weep it

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Posted: May. 17, 2016 - 7:16 AM ET #42

Another example. May not like it---but it is the wave of the future. The guy also seems to like the accuracy and convenience.

www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-grou

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Posted: May. 17, 2016 - 8:31 AM ET #43

Employee-Less Store.

More sh!t going out the front door than is paid for.

Owner is a DOPE.

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dl36

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Posted: May. 17, 2016 - 2:33 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Another example. May not like it---but it is the wave of the future. The guy also seems to like the accuracy and convenience.

www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-grou

Isn't this what the OP posted from the beginning?

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Posted: May. 17, 2016 - 5:13 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Isn't this what the OP posted from the beginning?

Haha! Yes it is. I copied wrong link.

Raiders22

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Posted: May. 17, 2016 - 5:15 PM ET #46

This is the other one I saw:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fast-food-workers-becoming-obsolete-182914617.html

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 11:00 AM ET #47

The Safeway by my house is too short staffed to man the self checkout kiosks on most days, so I will place a large majority of my items on the scanner and press the "no bar code" button. I will then put on the code for bananas, and essentially pay .39 to .49 cents a pound for all of my groceries. Can't beat 20 pounds of crab legs for 9.80. Some would scream "corporate fukks," but I would scream "seize the opportunity.

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 12:40 PM ET #48

Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

The Safeway by my house is too short staffed to man the self checkout kiosks on most days, so I will place a large majority of my items on the scanner and press the "no bar code" button. I will then put on the code for bananas, and essentially pay .39 to .49 cents a pound for all of my groceries. Can't beat 20 pounds of crab legs for 9.80. Some would scream "corporate fukks," but I would scream "seize the opportunity.

I scream common thief