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    TRUMP pulls U.S.A. out of Paris Accord

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    BWS77
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 7:00 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:


    The coal miners are pretty irrelevant.  Bottom line, India wanted 2 trillion in aid before even considering taking any steps to curb pollution.  It was a terrible agreement that shlt all over American taxpayers. 

    Liberals can each send personal checks to China, India and Germany if they want to.  Maybe you'll save the planet half of 1 degree in the next 80 years.  Good luck.

    Wait, wait, wait....    I thought this was about saving jobs!   "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Trump screamed...   Now you say they are irrelevant?  

    Do you even know what you are angry about?   
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:


    The coal miners are pretty irrelevant.  Bottom line, India wanted 2 trillion in aid before even considering taking any steps to curb pollution.  It was a terrible agreement that shlt all over American taxpayers. 

    Liberals can each send personal checks to China, India and Germany if they want to.  Maybe you'll save the planet half of 1 degree in the next 80 years.  Good luck.

    Wait, wait, wait....    I thought this was about saving jobs!   "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Trump screamed...   Now you say they are irrelevant?  

    Do you even know what you are angry about?   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 7:02 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump supporters who can't spell GED know more about climate change, global warming, whatever you want to call it than elon musk and neil degrasse tyson, two of the the smartest people on the planet. 


    also, what drugs was trump on today.

    he's talking about clean coal

    and throws in a complete lie for his idiot followers that has nothing to do with the climate issue.  he says his tax bill is doing well in congress.  there is no tax bill.  how stupid does he think his supporters are?  wait, he's actually right about that one. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump supporters who can't spell GED know more about climate change, global warming, whatever you want to call it than elon musk and neil degrasse tyson, two of the the smartest people on the planet. 


    also, what drugs was trump on today.

    he's talking about clean coal

    and throws in a complete lie for his idiot followers that has nothing to do with the climate issue.  he says his tax bill is doing well in congress.  there is no tax bill.  how stupid does he think his supporters are?  wait, he's actually right about that one. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 7:22 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    The "promissory note" from the U.S.A. has just been canceled. 

    In other words, other countries need to get their shlt together, we're not their ATM anymore.

    Got to set Term Limits!

    Not re-new PUBLIC UNION contracts.

    Government Bureaucracy, cut down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation.

    Number of Government Employees Now Surpasses Manufacturing Jobs by 9,977,000, There are 2.1 million federal civilian employees.

    As far as  this climate..... it's a hoax

    Obama buys a house for 8.1 million, cash. wake up-america
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    The "promissory note" from the U.S.A. has just been canceled. 

    In other words, other countries need to get their shlt together, we're not their ATM anymore.

    Got to set Term Limits!

    Not re-new PUBLIC UNION contracts.

    Government Bureaucracy, cut down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation.

    Number of Government Employees Now Surpasses Manufacturing Jobs by 9,977,000, There are 2.1 million federal civilian employees.

    As far as  this climate..... it's a hoax

    Obama buys a house for 8.1 million, cash. wake up-america
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 7:25 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Wait, wait, wait....    I thought this was about saving jobs!   "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Trump screamed...   Now you say they are irrelevant?  

    Do you even know what you are angry about?   

    We burn coal very cleanly and efficiently.. nothing wrong with coal.  It just doesn't make sense to give away trillions to possible, at best, cool the earth a half of a degree by 2100.  Meanwhile, India takes, Europe takes, and everyone but the U.S. pollutes.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Wait, wait, wait....    I thought this was about saving jobs!   "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Trump screamed...   Now you say they are irrelevant?  

    Do you even know what you are angry about?   

    We burn coal very cleanly and efficiently.. nothing wrong with coal.  It just doesn't make sense to give away trillions to possible, at best, cool the earth a half of a degree by 2100.  Meanwhile, India takes, Europe takes, and everyone but the U.S. pollutes.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 7:26 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:


    Got to set Term Limits!

    Not re-new PUBLIC UNION contracts.

    Government Bureaucracy, cut down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation.

    Number of Government Employees Now Surpasses Manufacturing Jobs by 9,977,000, There are 2.1 million federal civilian employees.

    As far as  this climate..... it's a hoax

    Obama buys a house for 8.1 million, cash. wake up-america

    Stick that in your private jet, Leonardo Dicaprio! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:


    Got to set Term Limits!

    Not re-new PUBLIC UNION contracts.

    Government Bureaucracy, cut down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation.

    Number of Government Employees Now Surpasses Manufacturing Jobs by 9,977,000, There are 2.1 million federal civilian employees.

    As far as  this climate..... it's a hoax

    Obama buys a house for 8.1 million, cash. wake up-america

    Stick that in your private jet, Leonardo Dicaprio! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 8:09 PM ET #31

    Elon Musk has quit the Trump advisory council. Hmmm...always quick to act when the financial side of a decision doesn't benefit you. Right Mr. Musk? Of course I am. They're all hypocrites.


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    Elon Musk has quit the Trump advisory council. Hmmm...always quick to act when the financial side of a decision doesn't benefit you. Right Mr. Musk? Of course I am. They're all hypocrites.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 8:14 PM ET #32

    Oh and let's not forget that the federal gov't collects 20 cents per gallon of fuel dispensed in this country and the states take another 30 cents. Yes, 50 cents of every gallon of fuel you buy is a tax. Of course they don't want to kill the cash cow which is petroleum. At least not yet. 
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    Oh and let's not forget that the federal gov't collects 20 cents per gallon of fuel dispensed in this country and the states take another 30 cents. Yes, 50 cents of every gallon of fuel you buy is a tax. Of course they don't want to kill the cash cow which is petroleum. At least not yet. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 8:35 PM ET #33

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Getty3] Oh and let's not forget that the federal gov't collects 20 cents per gallon of fuel dispensed in this country and the states take another 30 cents. Yes, 50 cents of every gallon of fuel you buy is a tax. Of course they don't want to kill the cash cow which is petroleum. At least not yet.  [/Quote ]

    80% at least for payroll......

    In recent years, almost every state and the federal government have increased tobacco taxes. The average state cigarette tax is currently $1.60 per pack, but rates vary widely from 17 cents in Missouri to $4.35 in New York. On April 1, 2009, the federal cigarette tax increased by 62 cents, to $1.01 per pack. NOW
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Getty3] Oh and let's not forget that the federal gov't collects 20 cents per gallon of fuel dispensed in this country and the states take another 30 cents. Yes, 50 cents of every gallon of fuel you buy is a tax. Of course they don't want to kill the cash cow which is petroleum. At least not yet.  [/Quote ]

    80% at least for payroll......

    In recent years, almost every state and the federal government have increased tobacco taxes. The average state cigarette tax is currently $1.60 per pack, but rates vary widely from 17 cents in Missouri to $4.35 in New York. On April 1, 2009, the federal cigarette tax increased by 62 cents, to $1.01 per pack. NOW
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 8:50 PM ET #34

    Good day for Mr. Trump to stand up to the Globalists.. O'bama would have fit right in !

      As Trump correctly pointed out, we are already getting cleaner for the last several years because of the declining use of coal vs. Nat Gas.  Nat Gas is about 50% cleaner than coal, and nat gas is being used in increasing amounts ; that trend is not going anywhere. 

    It's all about "fairness" , and Trump made that point abundantly clear.  Getting cleaner is already being accomplished, but getting even "more"  cleaner at the expense of U.S. jobs is not something we're interested in.   Great job, Mr. Trump.. No sense in singing up for a reduction of up to 25% of carbon emissions by 2025,  if others are not held to the same standard.  


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    Good day for Mr. Trump to stand up to the Globalists.. O'bama would have fit right in !

      As Trump correctly pointed out, we are already getting cleaner for the last several years because of the declining use of coal vs. Nat Gas.  Nat Gas is about 50% cleaner than coal, and nat gas is being used in increasing amounts ; that trend is not going anywhere. 

    It's all about "fairness" , and Trump made that point abundantly clear.  Getting cleaner is already being accomplished, but getting even "more"  cleaner at the expense of U.S. jobs is not something we're interested in.   Great job, Mr. Trump.. No sense in singing up for a reduction of up to 25% of carbon emissions by 2025,  if others are not held to the same standard.  


     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 11:02 PM ET #35

    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......


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    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......


     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 11:10 PM ET #36

    ^ It was a brilliant comment, 'Slim.

    Even as the leftists are sure to correct that the city of Pittsburgh voted for o'bama (err.. Clinton).  Shocker , where is their free government handout ?  

    Most folks know that Trump was talking about the hardworking coalminers that make up a good portion of the PA voters. 

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    ^ It was a brilliant comment, 'Slim.

    Even as the leftists are sure to correct that the city of Pittsburgh voted for o'bama (err.. Clinton).  Shocker , where is their free government handout ?  

    Most folks know that Trump was talking about the hardworking coalminers that make up a good portion of the PA voters. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2017 - 11:36 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......



    Another nonsense quote from Trump...    the Climate Change Conference was held in Paris, hence the naming.    Signed in New York USA by 174 countries.    


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......



    Another nonsense quote from Trump...    the Climate Change Conference was held in Paris, hence the naming.    Signed in New York USA by 174 countries.    


     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 12:25 AM ET #38

    Who gives a Sh@t 'BWS.  The namesake of the agreement has Paris written all over it. 
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    Who gives a Sh@t 'BWS.  The namesake of the agreement has Paris written all over it. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 12:42 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Another nonsense quote from Trump...    the Climate Change Conference was held in Paris, hence the naming.    Signed in New York USA by 174 countries.    




    175 countries you forgot to include Zimbabwe.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Another nonsense quote from Trump...    the Climate Change Conference was held in Paris, hence the naming.    Signed in New York USA by 174 countries.    




    175 countries you forgot to include Zimbabwe.............
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 12:55 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump supporters who can't spell GED know more about climate change, global warming, whatever you want to call it than elon musk and neil degrasse tyson, two of the the smartest people on the planet. 


    also, what drugs was trump on today.

    he's talking about clean coal

    and throws in a complete lie for his idiot followers that has nothing to do with the climate issue.  he says his tax bill is doing well in congress.  there is no tax bill.  how stupid does he think his supporters are?  wait, he's actually right about that one. 


    Once again, President Trump has continued to keep his word to the American people who elected him ... President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord was keeping the promise he made on the campaign trail...

    Winning !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump supporters who can't spell GED know more about climate change, global warming, whatever you want to call it than elon musk and neil degrasse tyson, two of the the smartest people on the planet. 


    also, what drugs was trump on today.

    he's talking about clean coal

    and throws in a complete lie for his idiot followers that has nothing to do with the climate issue.  he says his tax bill is doing well in congress.  there is no tax bill.  how stupid does he think his supporters are?  wait, he's actually right about that one. 


    Once again, President Trump has continued to keep his word to the American people who elected him ... President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord was keeping the promise he made on the campaign trail...

    Winning !!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 1:08 AM ET #41

    The specific terms of this agreement have the U.S sending billions of dollars a year to China, India, which are 2 of the biggest air polluters in the world..and China and India don't have to lower their emission rates. How would that solve climate change in the U.S.?    Its a bad deal,  it just doesn't make any sense.  


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    The specific terms of this agreement have the U.S sending billions of dollars a year to China, India, which are 2 of the biggest air polluters in the world..and China and India don't have to lower their emission rates. How would that solve climate change in the U.S.?    Its a bad deal,  it just doesn't make any sense.  


     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 7:49 AM ET #42

    The withdrawl doesnt happen overnight, the US is still in the accord until nov 2020, the exact date might (?) be the day after the next US ellection. The US could be out of the accord earlier, one yr, if they were to pull out of the 1992 UN framework convention of climate change. 

    30 states are moving ahead with carbon targets, business is still on board with the targets. Trumps decision will have little impact on the climate. Nothing will change. 

    The agreement is non binding, countries sign it, appear to be good global citizens then do little in the way of carbon reduction. Our prime minister ( who is little more than a walking/talking vag ina) signed it, then signed three pipeline deals that pump enough oil to make these targets unreachable.

    Every person on the planet has the option to reduce their carbon footprint, but few will part with their bottled water, kuerig coffee pods, gas powered vehicles and the like.

    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  ot much in the way of action. 



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    The withdrawl doesnt happen overnight, the US is still in the accord until nov 2020, the exact date might (?) be the day after the next US ellection. The US could be out of the accord earlier, one yr, if they were to pull out of the 1992 UN framework convention of climate change. 

    30 states are moving ahead with carbon targets, business is still on board with the targets. Trumps decision will have little impact on the climate. Nothing will change. 

    The agreement is non binding, countries sign it, appear to be good global citizens then do little in the way of carbon reduction. Our prime minister ( who is little more than a walking/talking vag ina) signed it, then signed three pipeline deals that pump enough oil to make these targets unreachable.

    Every person on the planet has the option to reduce their carbon footprint, but few will part with their bottled water, kuerig coffee pods, gas powered vehicles and the like.

    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  ot much in the way of action. 



     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 8:02 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The withdrawl doesnt happen overnight, the US is still in the accord until nov 2020, the exact date might (?) be the day after the next US ellection. The US could be out of the accord earlier, one yr, if they were to pull out of the 1992 UN framework convention of climate change. 

    30 states are moving ahead with carbon targets, business is still on board with the targets. Trumps decision will have little impact on the climate. Nothing will change. 

    The agreement is non binding, countries sign it, appear to be good global citizens then do little in the way of carbon reduction. Our prime minister ( who is little more than a walking/talking vag ina) signed it, then signed three pipeline deals that pump enough oil to make these targets unreachable.

    Every person on the planet has the option to reduce their carbon footprint, but few will part with their bottled water, kuerig coffee pods, gas powered vehicles and the like.

    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  ot much in the way of action. 


    This ^^^ 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The withdrawl doesnt happen overnight, the US is still in the accord until nov 2020, the exact date might (?) be the day after the next US ellection. The US could be out of the accord earlier, one yr, if they were to pull out of the 1992 UN framework convention of climate change. 

    30 states are moving ahead with carbon targets, business is still on board with the targets. Trumps decision will have little impact on the climate. Nothing will change. 

    The agreement is non binding, countries sign it, appear to be good global citizens then do little in the way of carbon reduction. Our prime minister ( who is little more than a walking/talking vag ina) signed it, then signed three pipeline deals that pump enough oil to make these targets unreachable.

    Every person on the planet has the option to reduce their carbon footprint, but few will part with their bottled water, kuerig coffee pods, gas powered vehicles and the like.

    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  ot much in the way of action. 


    This ^^^ 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 8:14 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Who gives a Sh@t 'BWS.  The namesake of the agreement has Paris written all over it. 

    Anyone with half a brain realizes it's just another 'rah-rah' quote to fire up the guy wearing a USA flag tank top (that was most likely made in China) to think that Trump actually cares about him.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Who gives a Sh@t 'BWS.  The namesake of the agreement has Paris written all over it. 

    Anyone with half a brain realizes it's just another 'rah-rah' quote to fire up the guy wearing a USA flag tank top (that was most likely made in China) to think that Trump actually cares about him.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Anyone with half a brain realizes it's just another 'rah-rah' quote to fire up the guy wearing a USA flag tank top (that was most likely made in China) to think that Trump actually cares about him.   

    Agreed ... similar to the black men in Chicago wearing the over-sized white t-shirts were made to think that Obama cared for them 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    Anyone with half a brain realizes it's just another 'rah-rah' quote to fire up the guy wearing a USA flag tank top (that was most likely made in China) to think that Trump actually cares about him.   

    Agreed ... similar to the black men in Chicago wearing the over-sized white t-shirts were made to think that Obama cared for them 
     
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    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  not much in the way of action.  

    The boys/girls of Washington give "Lip Service," no thoughts of the people Trump is talking of! This Paris/USA/Who cares agreement was/is a scheme the majority of Americans are clueless on.

    Politicians need to be voted out b/c they are good for only themselves. I see no reason why the things they vote on can't be voted on by the People with the same results weekly/monthly. One Representative from each State and this person works a 40 hour week with 1 week Vacation not 3 months.

    We will vote what is best for ourselves just as they do now. Trump tries but "As The World Turns" now in Washington is not about the people it is a soap opera and a book will be published 10-15 years later speaking reality.

    Wake-up, I always said; don't re-new any contracts. Let those PUBLIC UNIONS strike. I wouldn't hesitate crossing that line. I'm positive anyone unemployed or working now and paying 100% of their Health Ins. would take a job paying $25 an hour and pay as they go........

    I will go now and let those who are probably working for the Government reply
     
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    People like to conform it is human nature, a lot of lip service is paid to the notion of evironmental awareness, but  not much in the way of action.  

    The boys/girls of Washington give "Lip Service," no thoughts of the people Trump is talking of! This Paris/USA/Who cares agreement was/is a scheme the majority of Americans are clueless on.

    Politicians need to be voted out b/c they are good for only themselves. I see no reason why the things they vote on can't be voted on by the People with the same results weekly/monthly. One Representative from each State and this person works a 40 hour week with 1 week Vacation not 3 months.

    We will vote what is best for ourselves just as they do now. Trump tries but "As The World Turns" now in Washington is not about the people it is a soap opera and a book will be published 10-15 years later speaking reality.

    Wake-up, I always said; don't re-new any contracts. Let those PUBLIC UNIONS strike. I wouldn't hesitate crossing that line. I'm positive anyone unemployed or working now and paying 100% of their Health Ins. would take a job paying $25 an hour and pay as they go........

    I will go now and let those who are probably working for the Government reply
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 8:48 AM ET #47

    Whenever I feel upset about something completely out of my control and want to whine like you Liberals, George Carlin always cheers me up.

    He's spot on about that it's all about self-righteous White, Bourgeois Liberals that really don't really give a sh!t about the environment.  

    George Carlin on Global Warming:  Enjoy (starts around the 1:40 mark).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4


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    Whenever I feel upset about something completely out of my control and want to whine like you Liberals, George Carlin always cheers me up.

    He's spot on about that it's all about self-righteous White, Bourgeois Liberals that really don't really give a sh!t about the environment.  

    George Carlin on Global Warming:  Enjoy (starts around the 1:40 mark).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4


     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 10:07 AM ET #48

    Carlin is absolutely correct.
    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Carlin is absolutely correct.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 10:37 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    Carlin is absolutely correct.

    as is Trump......... both tell/told it like it tiz

    Carlin had a history of cardiac problems spanning three decades. These included three heart attacks (in 1978, 1982, and 1991),

    I had my 1st in 2011 2nd 2016 3rd ???





































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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    Carlin is absolutely correct.

    as is Trump......... both tell/told it like it tiz

    Carlin had a history of cardiac problems spanning three decades. These included three heart attacks (in 1978, 1982, and 1991),

    I had my 1st in 2011 2nd 2016 3rd ???





































     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2017 - 10:37 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......




    this was the third dumbest comment after "clean coal" and the comment about his (nonexistent) tax bill doing well in congress.

    1. the citizens of paris have nothing to do with this.  that's just where it was signed.

    2. pittsburgh isn't even remotely a coal town.  the mayor of pittsburgh set this idiot straight on that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris," said President Trump.......




    this was the third dumbest comment after "clean coal" and the comment about his (nonexistent) tax bill doing well in congress.

    1. the citizens of paris have nothing to do with this.  that's just where it was signed.

    2. pittsburgh isn't even remotely a coal town.  the mayor of pittsburgh set this idiot straight on that.



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