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    Trump Begins to end Mandatory Vaccinations

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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2020 - 9:10 AM ET #126

    World health organization calls anti-vaccine movement one of the top threats to global health.  In common, anti-vaxers and anti-maskers use century old arguments.  First, minimize threat of a disease.  Secondly, claim vaccine or mask causes illnesses or is ineffective.  Third, declare vaccination or mask-wearing is part of a larger conspiracy.  Fourth, use alternative or pseudoscience authority to legitimize weak arguments. 

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    World health organization calls anti-vaccine movement one of the top threats to global health.  In common, anti-vaxers and anti-maskers use century old arguments.  First, minimize threat of a disease.  Secondly, claim vaccine or mask causes illnesses or is ineffective.  Third, declare vaccination or mask-wearing is part of a larger conspiracy.  Fourth, use alternative or pseudoscience authority to legitimize weak arguments. 

     
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    So far, early rollout of vaccination has been a fiasco.  By end of year, almost 2 million Americans received vaccines.  Far short of 20 million promised by Trump administration.  At current pace, herd immunity won't be reached until after 10 years according to George Washington university estimate.  Problem is that public health infrastructure is inadequate and fragmented.  Risky to rely on underfunded states to administer vaccines.  Only federal government has the resources to handle a national problem.  But Trump administration refuses to accept responsibility.

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    So far, early rollout of vaccination has been a fiasco.  By end of year, almost 2 million Americans received vaccines.  Far short of 20 million promised by Trump administration.  At current pace, herd immunity won't be reached until after 10 years according to George Washington university estimate.  Problem is that public health infrastructure is inadequate and fragmented.  Risky to rely on underfunded states to administer vaccines.  Only federal government has the resources to handle a national problem.  But Trump administration refuses to accept responsibility.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2021 - 8:30 PM ET #128

    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.

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    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.

    Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated.

    Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.

     

    Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died 

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.

     

    Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.   Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died

    so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ? 

    “It’s not a lie, if you believe it”
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.   Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died

    so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2021 - 8:16 AM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.   Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ?

    Lessen the symptoms is the key ...I'd much rather be tired for a few days than dead or a life altering illness 

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden thanks Americans who have been vaccinated for doing their patriotic duty as over 140 million Americans have received at least one vaccine shot.  In update, Center for disease control says vaccinated people can go maskless outdoors except in crowds.  But masks are still recommended indoors in crowded buildings where 90% of virus transmission occurs.  Return toward some normacy is another reason to be vaccinated. Make sure to wear those masks, those who got the shot. No really, you’re “vaccinated” and all, buuuuut, just in case you know, make sure to wear that mask.   Unfortunately us vaccinated will continue to wear masks Indoors until the rest if you catch up ...I'd feel horrible if I passed on the virus to someone who wasn't vaccinated and they died so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ?

    Lessen the symptoms is the key ...I'd much rather be tired for a few days than dead or a life altering illness 

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2021 - 10:11 AM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ?

    Various vaccine myths on the internet.  First, Reuters fact check debunks the myth that mRNA vaccines aren't vaccines.  Actually, mRNA vaccines fit Center for disease control definition that a vaccine must stimulate the immune system into producing immunity to a disease and protects the person from the disease.   95% efficacy after 2 doses administered.

    Secondly, one myth is that clinical trials only show vaccine effectiveness for mild cases but not severe cases of disease.  Food drug administration gave approval after both cases tested in phase 3 clinical trials involving over 40,000 people at 153 sites around the world.

    Third, continuation of mask wearing doesn't prove vaccines don't work.  Since new variants are more contagious, public health experts need to be more cautious in loosening restrictions.  So far, prematurely relaxing restrictions  lead to another wave in pandemic. 

    Fourth, virus mutates so fast that a vaccine could never work.  No evidence that mutations negate vaccine benefits entirely.

    Fifth, another myth is that mRNA vaccines change human DNA.  Don't expect people to turn into monkeys after vaccination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    so basically the vaccine lessens the symptoms , doesn’t prevent getting it or transmitting it. The fuck is the point of the vaccine ?

    Various vaccine myths on the internet.  First, Reuters fact check debunks the myth that mRNA vaccines aren't vaccines.  Actually, mRNA vaccines fit Center for disease control definition that a vaccine must stimulate the immune system into producing immunity to a disease and protects the person from the disease.   95% efficacy after 2 doses administered.

    Secondly, one myth is that clinical trials only show vaccine effectiveness for mild cases but not severe cases of disease.  Food drug administration gave approval after both cases tested in phase 3 clinical trials involving over 40,000 people at 153 sites around the world.

    Third, continuation of mask wearing doesn't prove vaccines don't work.  Since new variants are more contagious, public health experts need to be more cautious in loosening restrictions.  So far, prematurely relaxing restrictions  lead to another wave in pandemic. 

    Fourth, virus mutates so fast that a vaccine could never work.  No evidence that mutations negate vaccine benefits entirely.

    Fifth, another myth is that mRNA vaccines change human DNA.  Don't expect people to turn into monkeys after vaccination.

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