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    Trump Begins to end Mandatory Vaccinations

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2018 - 1:51 PM ET #1

    Good news follows. From Rumor Mill News. Mainstream will be silent on this. Here you go.

     

    President Trump has created a new division within the Health and Human Services Office for Civil Rights, with the express purpose of banning mandatory vaccinations across the country, and ensuring citizens have a right to choose their own healthcare.

    With the establishment of the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division division on Thursday, Trump has laid the groundwork to dismantle each and every vaccine mandate across the country. Big Pharma’s choke-hold on the nation’s health has been released.

    If you don’t think this new division at the Health and Human Services Office is a big deal, it’s time to think again.

    The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division gives many different groups a big tent under which to fight for our constitutional rights. Christians and libertarians, as well as freethinkers and people of other religious faiths, have a common interest in fighting against Big Pharma’s corrupt health establishment.

    Mainstream media are desperate to keep this news quiet. They don’t want you to know that the president is working to ensure American citizens have a right to choose their own healthcare.

    Pharmaceutical companies provide mainstream media outlets with a huge percentage of their advertising revenue. Big pharmaceutical companies actually spend far more on advertising than research. We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

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    Good news follows. From Rumor Mill News. Mainstream will be silent on this. Here you go.

     

    President Trump has created a new division within the Health and Human Services Office for Civil Rights, with the express purpose of banning mandatory vaccinations across the country, and ensuring citizens have a right to choose their own healthcare.

    With the establishment of the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division division on Thursday, Trump has laid the groundwork to dismantle each and every vaccine mandate across the country. Big Pharma’s choke-hold on the nation’s health has been released.

    If you don’t think this new division at the Health and Human Services Office is a big deal, it’s time to think again.

    The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division gives many different groups a big tent under which to fight for our constitutional rights. Christians and libertarians, as well as freethinkers and people of other religious faiths, have a common interest in fighting against Big Pharma’s corrupt health establishment.

    Mainstream media are desperate to keep this news quiet. They don’t want you to know that the president is working to ensure American citizens have a right to choose their own healthcare.

    Pharmaceutical companies provide mainstream media outlets with a huge percentage of their advertising revenue. Big pharmaceutical companies actually spend far more on advertising than research. We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2018 - 2:35 PM ET #2

    The new Seattle NBA franchise will be called the Phizers or Merkles or Monsantos...rumor mill news

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    The new Seattle NBA franchise will be called the Phizers or Merkles or Monsantos...rumor mill news

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2018 - 8:19 PM ET #3

    Does Canada have mandatory vaccinations packersbackers?
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    Does Canada have mandatory vaccinations packersbackers?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2018 - 9:14 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Does Canada have mandatory vaccinations packersbackers?

    Nothing is mandatory...but if you want your kids to have access to schools, you are basically forced to comply...as far as i am aware...i just do whatever my wife tells me an_tongueout

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Does Canada have mandatory vaccinations packersbackers?

    Nothing is mandatory...but if you want your kids to have access to schools, you are basically forced to comply...as far as i am aware...i just do whatever my wife tells me an_tongueout

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2018 - 4:53 PM ET #5

    I hear you packers. The children will be vaccinated or they will not be allowed to go to school. Medical tyranny!

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    I hear you packers. The children will be vaccinated or they will not be allowed to go to school. Medical tyranny!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 11:57 AM ET #6

    Medical tyranny is at your. doorstep. The Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine Clinic in Sarasota is refusing to treat children who are not vaccinated. Crazy in my opinion. There will/could come a time when medical  care will be denied to anyone not up to date with their required vaccinations.
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    Medical tyranny is at your. doorstep. The Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine Clinic in Sarasota is refusing to treat children who are not vaccinated. Crazy in my opinion. There will/could come a time when medical  care will be denied to anyone not up to date with their required vaccinations.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 1:42 PM ET #7

    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....

     

     

    Murica is going down the toliet 

     

     

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....

     

     

    Murica is going down the toliet 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 2:32 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....     Murica is going down the toliet

    Not true and completely unfair to suggest any parent would do that to their kid...these people are just easily influenced by false info and celebrities who tout quakery...the overall level of ignorance and low IQ in todays society is at an all time high...youre better than this bro...dont make such foolish comments like this an_shake

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....     Murica is going down the toliet

    Not true and completely unfair to suggest any parent would do that to their kid...these people are just easily influenced by false info and celebrities who tout quakery...the overall level of ignorance and low IQ in todays society is at an all time high...youre better than this bro...dont make such foolish comments like this an_shake

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 3:23 PM ET #9

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.
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    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.

    Tuna an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.

    Tuna an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 7:58 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.


    Just got mine last week. 

    Bring it on. 
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.


    Just got mine last week. 

    Bring it on. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2018 - 8:00 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Tuna an_light



    And I had 2 tuna sandwiches for lunch. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Tuna an_light



    And I had 2 tuna sandwiches for lunch. 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2018 - 12:13 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.

     

    How much Mercury ???

    How much lead/ toxins are in your shower water 

     

    Better stay up on your shots 

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    If you get a Flu shot in November 2018 you are 90% likely to also have Mercury along with it.

     

    How much Mercury ???

    How much lead/ toxins are in your shower water 

     

    Better stay up on your shots 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....     Murica is going down the toliet
    Not true and completely unfair to suggest any parent would do that to their kid...these people are just easily influenced by false info and celebrities who tout quakery...the overall level of ignorance and low IQ in todays society is at an all time high...youre better than this bro...dont make such foolish comments like this

     

     

    Do u like STATS ????

     

    AS A PARENT I HAVE almost NO RESPECT FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESNT VAX THEIR KIDS ...

     

    A select few are a choice , but passing on Most is POSSIBLE MURDER 

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Anti Vaxers love killing their children ....     Murica is going down the toliet
    Not true and completely unfair to suggest any parent would do that to their kid...these people are just easily influenced by false info and celebrities who tout quakery...the overall level of ignorance and low IQ in todays society is at an all time high...youre better than this bro...dont make such foolish comments like this

     

     

    Do u like STATS ????

     

    AS A PARENT I HAVE almost NO RESPECT FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESNT VAX THEIR KIDS ...

     

    A select few are a choice , but passing on Most is POSSIBLE MURDER 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    Just got mine last week. 

    Bring it on. 

    Right on, GG. 

    Listen to the doctors and CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), DO NOT listen to the politicians.

    Everyone 6 months of age and older should get a flu vaccine every season.--CDC

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm




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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    Just got mine last week. 

    Bring it on. 

    Right on, GG. 

    Listen to the doctors and CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), DO NOT listen to the politicians.

    Everyone 6 months of age and older should get a flu vaccine every season.--CDC

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm




     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2018 - 10:17 AM ET #16

    Europa is right.  Vaccines are among the most important, effective and safest medical advance in history.  Before development of vaccines, millions of people suffer or die from horrible diseases.  Now vaccines save 6 million lives every year.  But anti-vaccination movement by nonexperts have lead to more deaths and suffering.  Opposing vaccination is foolhardy, dangerous, irresponsible and ignorant.
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    Europa is right.  Vaccines are among the most important, effective and safest medical advance in history.  Before development of vaccines, millions of people suffer or die from horrible diseases.  Now vaccines save 6 million lives every year.  But anti-vaccination movement by nonexperts have lead to more deaths and suffering.  Opposing vaccination is foolhardy, dangerous, irresponsible and ignorant.
     
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    I have decided against it and here they do not put you in prison if you have personal reasons not to...what happens if there is an outbreak the people who choose not to vaccinate their kids stay home (which makes no sense but ok).

    There is no need for MANY vaccines, yet the number of vaccines keeps increasing even when there is no reason to give them.

    The issues for me was that the additives in vaccines are dangerous, people are harmed from taking the vaccines and the efficiencies of benefit for vaccines are not proven either...just because you get one does not mean you are immune. I also do not like that you are shooting most often dead pig brain into your body or some other animal and I dont like the idea that animals are infected to manufacture vaccines.

    If there is some outbreak as the bio industry wants you to be afraid of I can promise you that people who were vaccinated will STILL catch whatever it is and people who were not are not guaranteed to catch, NOR spread anything.

    One thing for sure, this hysteria and fear makes a NICE profit for the medical industry.

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    I have decided against it and here they do not put you in prison if you have personal reasons not to...what happens if there is an outbreak the people who choose not to vaccinate their kids stay home (which makes no sense but ok).

    There is no need for MANY vaccines, yet the number of vaccines keeps increasing even when there is no reason to give them.

    The issues for me was that the additives in vaccines are dangerous, people are harmed from taking the vaccines and the efficiencies of benefit for vaccines are not proven either...just because you get one does not mean you are immune. I also do not like that you are shooting most often dead pig brain into your body or some other animal and I dont like the idea that animals are infected to manufacture vaccines.

    If there is some outbreak as the bio industry wants you to be afraid of I can promise you that people who were vaccinated will STILL catch whatever it is and people who were not are not guaranteed to catch, NOR spread anything.

    One thing for sure, this hysteria and fear makes a NICE profit for the medical industry.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2018 - 11:52 PM ET #18

    There are far more problems from mercury than flu shots....public eater from reservoirs here in Maine we are told to eat no more than 4 fresh fish meals a month not to eat the livers of moose and deer due to high mercury concentration.  Because they drink rain water from ponds streams ect. 

    Animals don't live as long as Humans. We drink that same water. Ugly business of withholding the truth . Flu shots and vaccines are known to have hi mercury concentrations yet they will not stopinjecting this poison into our children and then the effects of the poisoning can easily be represented by adhd or autism leafing to psychosis.   And there is pig pharma with more drugs to push on our youth. The practice to me is a refined form of Evil. I was a kid we received like 10 vaccines and boosters today nearly 100.   

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    There are far more problems from mercury than flu shots....public eater from reservoirs here in Maine we are told to eat no more than 4 fresh fish meals a month not to eat the livers of moose and deer due to high mercury concentration.  Because they drink rain water from ponds streams ect. 

    Animals don't live as long as Humans. We drink that same water. Ugly business of withholding the truth . Flu shots and vaccines are known to have hi mercury concentrations yet they will not stopinjecting this poison into our children and then the effects of the poisoning can easily be represented by adhd or autism leafing to psychosis.   And there is pig pharma with more drugs to push on our youth. The practice to me is a refined form of Evil. I was a kid we received like 10 vaccines and boosters today nearly 100.   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2018 - 12:31 AM ET #19


    This may or may not refer to you wallstreet...

    It has been recognized for many years that people 65 years and older are at greater risk of serious complications from the flu compared with young, healthy adults because human immune defenses become weaker with age. While flu seasons can vary in severity, during most seasons, people 65 years and older bear the greatest burden of severe flu disease. In recent years, for example, it’s estimated that between about 70 percent and 90 percent of seasonal flu-related deaths have occurred in people 65 years and older and between 50 percent and 70 percent of seasonal flu-related hospitalizations have occurred among people in that age group. So influenza is often quite serious for people 65 and older.
    ~~~~~CDC

    I am close enough to this age group to pay attention.
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    This may or may not refer to you wallstreet...

    It has been recognized for many years that people 65 years and older are at greater risk of serious complications from the flu compared with young, healthy adults because human immune defenses become weaker with age. While flu seasons can vary in severity, during most seasons, people 65 years and older bear the greatest burden of severe flu disease. In recent years, for example, it’s estimated that between about 70 percent and 90 percent of seasonal flu-related deaths have occurred in people 65 years and older and between 50 percent and 70 percent of seasonal flu-related hospitalizations have occurred among people in that age group. So influenza is often quite serious for people 65 and older.
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    I am close enough to this age group to pay attention.
     
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    It is also highly recommended for 65 years or older people to get pneumococcal vaccine, says CDC.
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    It is also highly recommended for 65 years or older people to get pneumococcal vaccine, says CDC.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2018 - 2:43 AM ET #21

    "If there is some outbreak as the bio industry wants you to be afraid of I can promise you that people who were vaccinated will STILL catch whatever it is and people who were not are not guaranteed to catch, NOR spread anything"

    The point is that while a flu vaccination is not guaranteed to stop you from catching the Flu it will most certainly lessen the severity and allow you to recover more quickly.


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    "If there is some outbreak as the bio industry wants you to be afraid of I can promise you that people who were vaccinated will STILL catch whatever it is and people who were not are not guaranteed to catch, NOR spread anything"

    The point is that while a flu vaccination is not guaranteed to stop you from catching the Flu it will most certainly lessen the severity and allow you to recover more quickly.


     
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    Several myths about vaccines.  First, vaccines can make kids sick.  According to Pediatrics journal, 50% chance of temporary side effect such as rash or swelling at injection site.  1% chance of serious reaction.  Benefits outweigh risks.  According to Institute of medicine, the research claiming vaccines cause autism is debunked and retracted due to flawed methodology. 

    Secondly, getting too many vaccines could overwhelm or weaken immune system.  People are exposed to far more germs from the environment than from vaccines which prepare body for better defense against germs after a few weeks.  But not getting vaccines at optimal times may increase risk of diseases spreading.  Vacinating entire population further reduces risks.

    Third, vaccines contain dangerous ingredients.  Most vaccines don't have mercury.  Ethylmercury in thimerosol preservative is not dangerous and leaves body in a few days according to WHO and CDC.  According to University of Rochester, children who took vaccines with thimerosol have mercury levels below EPA safety limits.  Ethylmercury is not the same health hazard as toxic methylmercury which can accumulate in body.  That is like comparing alcohol in wine with antifreeze.  Besides, mercury exposure is greater from air, water and fish.
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    Several myths about vaccines.  First, vaccines can make kids sick.  According to Pediatrics journal, 50% chance of temporary side effect such as rash or swelling at injection site.  1% chance of serious reaction.  Benefits outweigh risks.  According to Institute of medicine, the research claiming vaccines cause autism is debunked and retracted due to flawed methodology. 

    Secondly, getting too many vaccines could overwhelm or weaken immune system.  People are exposed to far more germs from the environment than from vaccines which prepare body for better defense against germs after a few weeks.  But not getting vaccines at optimal times may increase risk of diseases spreading.  Vacinating entire population further reduces risks.

    Third, vaccines contain dangerous ingredients.  Most vaccines don't have mercury.  Ethylmercury in thimerosol preservative is not dangerous and leaves body in a few days according to WHO and CDC.  According to University of Rochester, children who took vaccines with thimerosol have mercury levels below EPA safety limits.  Ethylmercury is not the same health hazard as toxic methylmercury which can accumulate in body.  That is like comparing alcohol in wine with antifreeze.  Besides, mercury exposure is greater from air, water and fish.
     
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    US center for disease control measures effectiveness of vaccines annually.  Most vaccines are 90% effective such as for measles.  However effectiveness of flu vaccines can vary from 10% to 60% depending on how well vaccine matches mutating viruses each year.  Overall, vaccination reduces risk of flu illness by 50%. 

    As recommended for decades, vaccination is still the best way to protect people against the flu.  Benefits of vaccines far outweigh risks of natural infection.   Also no evidences that vaccines cause  diabetes, HIV, multiple scelerosis, cancer or the disease it is supposed to prevent.


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    US center for disease control measures effectiveness of vaccines annually.  Most vaccines are 90% effective such as for measles.  However effectiveness of flu vaccines can vary from 10% to 60% depending on how well vaccine matches mutating viruses each year.  Overall, vaccination reduces risk of flu illness by 50%. 

    As recommended for decades, vaccination is still the best way to protect people against the flu.  Benefits of vaccines far outweigh risks of natural infection.   Also no evidences that vaccines cause  diabetes, HIV, multiple scelerosis, cancer or the disease it is supposed to prevent.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2018 - 8:49 AM ET #24

    The following is a sad, shocking story. New York State Senator Jose Peralta dies of septic shock and then organ failure after taking the flu shot. Peralta was 47. Peralta promoted the greatness of the flu shot on Twitter before his sudden demise. My humble advice follows. Please have your life insurance policy paid in full before taking the flu shot. At least the beneficiary will benefit by your unnecessary death.
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    The following is a sad, shocking story. New York State Senator Jose Peralta dies of septic shock and then organ failure after taking the flu shot. Peralta was 47. Peralta promoted the greatness of the flu shot on Twitter before his sudden demise. My humble advice follows. Please have your life insurance policy paid in full before taking the flu shot. At least the beneficiary will benefit by your unnecessary death.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2018 - 11:06 AM ET #25

    According to NYpost, his widow says doctors don't really know what happened to Jose Peralta.  Too early for final conclusions.  Possibly heart attack?  Mystery infection causing septic shock might be from common cold or ear infection? 

    Very rare for any vaccine leading to death.  Perhaps, risk is one in a million vaccines.  Vaccines are always monitored for safety and doctors can prevent adverse reactions by screening patients with preexisting conditions. Historically, many deaths have been prevented by vaccination of populations..
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    According to NYpost, his widow says doctors don't really know what happened to Jose Peralta.  Too early for final conclusions.  Possibly heart attack?  Mystery infection causing septic shock might be from common cold or ear infection? 

    Very rare for any vaccine leading to death.  Perhaps, risk is one in a million vaccines.  Vaccines are always monitored for safety and doctors can prevent adverse reactions by screening patients with preexisting conditions. Historically, many deaths have been prevented by vaccination of populations..
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