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     If you want the law and different institutions (like schools for example) to arrest and suspend kids for wearing shirts that do not violate present school policy or break any laws, then I guess that's your stance.  I just don't understand that reasoning.  How many shirts are out there that might offend other students and teachers?  Can I wear this, can I wear that?  You see the problem?  This is why policies are in place.  To set limits and boundaries.  To make it clear what the rules are.  He wasn't breaking any rules. 

What gives anyone in the school the right to tell a student to leave school grounds for wearing something that doesn't violate school policy?  And why was he arrested when he didn't break any laws?  Please answer that.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:

Steel,

Quick question...

If I worked for you, and wore a tee shirt to work everyday that said: (In Big Bold lettering)

Only the STUPID Smoke Pot... FACT!!!

Would you support my Right to Freedom of Speech? Or would you as my employer be against Freedom of Speech and tell me not to wear the shirt.

Test of honesty...


Great question.  If I had no policy in place, I would laugh and tell you it was a funny shirt.  In a professional setting of course I would suggest you wear something more professional and I'd probably force it just like any office would.  If you worked for me as a landscaper, I wouldn't care. 

Consistency is key.  I think that's why I have a problem with this school. 

They're saying "Well... we don't like the shirt, and although we have a policy that prohibits violent messages and your shirt doesn't have a violent message, we still want you to take it off."

It's not consistent.  He wasn't breaking school policy.

 
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My experience going to school probably differs than the majority of the people on covers.  I went to elementary/high school on a military base, yet the teachers were civilian, so it wasn't like going to the naval academy or anything.  But all our parents were military or government civilians assigned to the military base (this was overseas).  In that school, if the teacher told you your clothing was inappropriate for school, you simply took that sh*t off or flipped it inside out.  End of story.  You either respected the school authorities (teachers, principals) or you came in the next day with your legal guardian.  If that didn't fix the problem, your dad or mom would have a little meeting with his/her military commander to make sure the kid got straightened out.  Back then was a different day ... but the kids in my school didn't do stupid sh*t that the kids do now in the civilian world.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

My experience going to school probably differs than the majority of the people on covers.  I went to elementary/high school on a military base, yet the teachers were civilian, so it wasn't like going to the naval academy or anything.  But all our parents were military or government civilians assigned to the military base (this was overseas).  In that school, if the teacher told you your clothing was inappropriate for school, you simply took that sh*t off or flipped it inside out.  End of story.  You either respected the school authorities (teachers, principals) or you came in the next day with your legal guardian.  If that didn't fix the problem, your dad or mom would have a little meeting with his/her military commander to make sure the kid got straightened out.  Back then was a different day ... but the kids in my school didn't do stupid sh*t that the kids do now in the civilian world.  



 
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I guess what upsets me with this situation is that there's no respect for the school authorities.  This isn't about the second amendment, or any amendment ... it's not about your rights or his rights.  It doesn't matter that there was no policy for that particular shirt, or if they made a judgment call on his particular shirt on that particular day.  When a teacher tells you to do something, just do it.  In this case, they said don't wear that shirt again.  It should of ended at that.  Who cares whatz on that shirt ... it could of been a shirt about love & peace, gun rights, a simple nike logo, i could give two sh*tz less ... if my kid wore it again to school when they asked him not too ... i would of given him a swift and decisive @ss whippin ... he would of learned respect the old fashioned way ... addressing teachers-superiors-elders as mr., mrs., sirs and mams ... end of story
 
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stupid kid...enough of the NRA already steel
 
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Jmw59... it's just a debate. That's why I created the thread.

 
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I believe in paddling a kid too. I know for a fact it was a great deterrent for me. And all that happened was a really sore âss for the next 20 minutes.
 
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This incident fits the same mentality with the kid that was sent home for drawing a picture of a gun - he school said that violated their zero tolerance policy.

In another instance, a student wore a Marine Corps t-shirt. Their brother is in Afghanistan. The school told the student to turn it inside out because the crossed sabers on the shirt were <gasp> offensive.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Coin Toss:

This incident fits the same mentality with the kid that was sent home for drawing a picture of a gun - he school said that violated their zero tolerance policy.

In another instance, a student wore a Marine Corps t-shirt. Their brother is in Afghanistan. The school told the student to turn it inside out because the crossed sabers on the shirt were offensive.

 

Any school that prohibits a kid from wearing a Marine t- shirt would not have any of my kids as students.You could bank on that.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

Jmw59... it's just a debate. That's why I created the thread.


my bad bro  didn't mean to stomp on your thread
 
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^^^ It's all good dude :)

 
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Coin toss... that's what I mean. I just don't get it. People take things too far. They get carried away. This zero tolerance büllshit. I heard of a 3rd grade girl getting suspended for the bringing a plastic knife in her lunch to cut her sandwich.

It's like everybody's brains have fallen out of their friggin heads and they can't think logically. How are you going to suspend a 10 year old girl for having a plastic butter knife, or a boy for drawing a gun? These people have clearly lost the ability to think rationally in order to make sound decisions. In my opinion, they're idiots.

 
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And obviously people are getting ridiculous about clothing. There's no reason for that Marine Corps shirt to be turned inside out and there's no reason the NRA shirt should have been a problem. Get these people out of our school systems. As far as I'm concerned they're fückin' Commies.

 
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This obviously has nothing to do with the dress code of the school.  rather is has to do solely with the teacher having a personal vendetta against the NRA.  Teachers should absolutely be respected by their students but should leave their individual agendas in the parking lot.  Nothing more than overreaching progressive hypocrisy in education forum.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by potter36:

This obviously has nothing to do with the dress code of the school.  rather is has to do solely with the teacher having a personal vendetta against the NRA.  Teachers should absolutely be respected by their students but should leave their individual agendas in the parking lot.  Nothing more than overreaching progressive hypocrisy in education forum.

With all due respect, your conclusion is just nuts.

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