Jpero, all pothead arguments aside. One is legal and one is not. Plain and simple. I have a TS security clearance. I can drink but I'll get shit canned for smoking pot. So guess what, I don't smoke pot. Its called the rules.
Anyone with a halfway decent career that is willing to put it at jeopardy to smoke pot is a complete dumbass.
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Jpero, all pothead arguments aside. One is legal and one is not. Plain and simple. I have a TS security clearance. I can drink but I'll get shit canned for smoking pot. So guess what, I don't smoke pot. Its called the rules.
Anyone with a halfway decent career that is willing to put it at jeopardy to smoke pot is a complete dumbass.
Vulture unless you understand how and why marijuana is illegal then you are arguing a losing battle..... here is a little hint: Alcohol companies provide millions/billions of dollars to keep it illegal because they dont want to have a competing drug on the market. The same with pharmaceutical companies because marijuana would cause them to lose out on billions of dollars and eliminate products of those companies.
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies. In the next 10-15 years I would wager that marijuana become decriminalized, if not legal. The argument of its illegal is bogus. Every single person does something illegal everyday of their lives.
Isn't online gambling illegal?? Speeding?? Not crossing the street at a cross walk?? The illegal argument is laughable when knowing how ridiculous it is that marijuana is illegal compared to other things being legal.
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Vulture unless you understand how and why marijuana is illegal then you are arguing a losing battle..... here is a little hint: Alcohol companies provide millions/billions of dollars to keep it illegal because they dont want to have a competing drug on the market. The same with pharmaceutical companies because marijuana would cause them to lose out on billions of dollars and eliminate products of those companies.
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies. In the next 10-15 years I would wager that marijuana become decriminalized, if not legal. The argument of its illegal is bogus. Every single person does something illegal everyday of their lives.
Isn't online gambling illegal?? Speeding?? Not crossing the street at a cross walk?? The illegal argument is laughable when knowing how ridiculous it is that marijuana is illegal compared to other things being legal.
I'm not debating whether it should be illegal or not. The fact remains that it is. Can you deny that? Can you deny the fact that an employer can fire you testing positive for it? Of course you can't; that's just the way it is. All the other jail house lawyer mumbo jumbo stuff is just smoke (pardon the pun) and mirrors. You can whine all you want about lobbyists and how safe it is; who cares. Its illegal, you can be fired for it and anyone that puts pot ahead of their career is a dumbass.
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I'm not debating whether it should be illegal or not. The fact remains that it is. Can you deny that? Can you deny the fact that an employer can fire you testing positive for it? Of course you can't; that's just the way it is. All the other jail house lawyer mumbo jumbo stuff is just smoke (pardon the pun) and mirrors. You can whine all you want about lobbyists and how safe it is; who cares. Its illegal, you can be fired for it and anyone that puts pot ahead of their career is a dumbass.
You're basically saying that you like smoking pot more than your job. What a dipshit.
What I am saying is that after 4 years of being a good little boy, and now getting high for the first time in many years, I truly miss it. It makes me a happier person and anyone around me can see that. I wake up at 5AM every goddamn day, and 4 years of that lifestyle(and commute), has made me a rotten and bitter cocksucker. Anyone who has known me knows that there was the pre-job Wally, and the rundown, burnt out, post-job Wally who has become a hermit because theres just not enough time in the day for work, commute, family, girlfriend, hobbies, social life, etc etc. If smoking a bowl once a week after work or on a Friday night makes me a happier person, then I'm gonna take a chance.
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Quote Originally Posted by TheVulture:
You're basically saying that you like smoking pot more than your job. What a dipshit.
What I am saying is that after 4 years of being a good little boy, and now getting high for the first time in many years, I truly miss it. It makes me a happier person and anyone around me can see that. I wake up at 5AM every goddamn day, and 4 years of that lifestyle(and commute), has made me a rotten and bitter cocksucker. Anyone who has known me knows that there was the pre-job Wally, and the rundown, burnt out, post-job Wally who has become a hermit because theres just not enough time in the day for work, commute, family, girlfriend, hobbies, social life, etc etc. If smoking a bowl once a week after work or on a Friday night makes me a happier person, then I'm gonna take a chance.
Like these big wig stiffs running these companies have never done it or don't drink alcohol, or have never broke a small petty law. Come on.
What a world we live in where banks are concerned about their employees smoking a little Marijuana yet they continually screw their clients HAND OVER FIST.
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These fucking companies doing drug testing.
Like these big wig stiffs running these companies have never done it or don't drink alcohol, or have never broke a small petty law. Come on.
What a world we live in where banks are concerned about their employees smoking a little Marijuana yet they continually screw their clients HAND OVER FIST.
Like these big wig stiffs running these companies have never done it or don't drink alcohol, or have never broke a small petty law. Come on.
What a world we live in where banks are concerned about their employees smoking a little Marijuana yet they continually screw their clients HAND OVER FIST.
Fucking A. I like your style, Mac. Win some money tomorrow!
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
These fucking companies doing drug testing.
Like these big wig stiffs running these companies have never done it or don't drink alcohol, or have never broke a small petty law. Come on.
What a world we live in where banks are concerned about their employees smoking a little Marijuana yet they continually screw their clients HAND OVER FIST.
Fucking A. I like your style, Mac. Win some money tomorrow!
I really do hope you get fired. Then I hope you come and post on here about how unfair it is and its everyone else's fault like lobbyists (what a joke). But don't worry, Wendy's is always hiring.
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I really do hope you get fired. Then I hope you come and post on here about how unfair it is and its everyone else's fault like lobbyists (what a joke). But don't worry, Wendy's is always hiring.
Dude, I've done a lot of research about this very subject. Read an interesting article in a law/criminal justice journal about the reliability of urine tests. Their conclusion was that the whole "30 days" rule that seems to be the general accepted timeline for THC metabolites to be undetectable is totally false. Their tests revealed that even heavy daily smokers only had >25 manograms (the typical cutoff for a positive test) in less than 17 days. They 30 days claim is used by the manufacturers of that "detox" bullshit.
THC is a fat soluable compound that is stored in the body's fat and slowly released over time. Nothing masks it, nothing makes it get out of your system faster other than a revved up metabolism.
I say that if you only smoke occassionally, 2 weeks should be enough time to get under the 25 manogram threshold.
There are test strips that you can buy online to test yourself. they are relitively cheap and accurate.
From my understanding, the urine test goes like this. Once you piss, the company will immediately test for temperature and specific gravity. Temp is to make sure your sample actually came from inside your body and the specific gravity is to make sure your test isn't too dilute. I'm not too sure what happens if you fail either of these tests. I think thaty may make you piss again with someone watching.
Once a good sample has been obtained, it is usually sent to a lab with hundreds of other samples and tested with strips that have a compound on them in which they THC metabolites compete to bind to. too much THC metabolites=a red strip and a positive test. Now, this isn't an immediate positive test as false positives occur fairly often so any positive sample is sent for further testing by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry which is a specific test and highly accurate. If the sample is positive here...you're fucked.
Quite an education huh? My take....those detox products are a waste of money. Timing is everything, keep the metabolism revved (exercise, eating) keep yourself trim (THC stored in fat) and drink plenty of water, just not too much on test day.
Good Luck and stay high!
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Dude, I've done a lot of research about this very subject. Read an interesting article in a law/criminal justice journal about the reliability of urine tests. Their conclusion was that the whole "30 days" rule that seems to be the general accepted timeline for THC metabolites to be undetectable is totally false. Their tests revealed that even heavy daily smokers only had >25 manograms (the typical cutoff for a positive test) in less than 17 days. They 30 days claim is used by the manufacturers of that "detox" bullshit.
THC is a fat soluable compound that is stored in the body's fat and slowly released over time. Nothing masks it, nothing makes it get out of your system faster other than a revved up metabolism.
I say that if you only smoke occassionally, 2 weeks should be enough time to get under the 25 manogram threshold.
There are test strips that you can buy online to test yourself. they are relitively cheap and accurate.
From my understanding, the urine test goes like this. Once you piss, the company will immediately test for temperature and specific gravity. Temp is to make sure your sample actually came from inside your body and the specific gravity is to make sure your test isn't too dilute. I'm not too sure what happens if you fail either of these tests. I think thaty may make you piss again with someone watching.
Once a good sample has been obtained, it is usually sent to a lab with hundreds of other samples and tested with strips that have a compound on them in which they THC metabolites compete to bind to. too much THC metabolites=a red strip and a positive test. Now, this isn't an immediate positive test as false positives occur fairly often so any positive sample is sent for further testing by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry which is a specific test and highly accurate. If the sample is positive here...you're fucked.
Quite an education huh? My take....those detox products are a waste of money. Timing is everything, keep the metabolism revved (exercise, eating) keep yourself trim (THC stored in fat) and drink plenty of water, just not too much on test day.
Dude, I've done a lot of research about this very subject. Read an interesting article in a law/criminal justice journal about the reliability of urine tests. Their conclusion was that the whole "30 days" rule that seems to be the general accepted timeline for THC metabolites to be undetectable is totally false. Their tests revealed that even heavy daily smokers only had >25 manograms (the typical cutoff for a positive test) in less than 17 days. They 30 days claim is used by the manufacturers of that "detox" bullshit.
THC is a fat soluable compound that is stored in the body's fat and slowly released over time. Nothing masks it, nothing makes it get out of your system faster other than a revved up metabolism.
I say that if you only smoke occassionally, 2 weeks should be enough time to get under the 25 manogram threshold.
There are test strips that you can buy online to test yourself. they are relitively cheap and accurate.
From my understanding, the urine test goes like this. Once you piss, the company will immediately test for temperature and specific gravity. Temp is to make sure your sample actually came from inside your body and the specific gravity is to make sure your test isn't too dilute. I'm not too sure what happens if you fail either of these tests. I think thaty may make you piss again with someone watching.
Once a good sample has been obtained, it is usually sent to a lab with hundreds of other samples and tested with strips that have a compound on them in which they THC metabolites compete to bind to. too much THC metabolites=a red strip and a positive test. Now, this isn't an immediate positive test as false positives occur fairly often so any positive sample is sent for further testing by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry which is a specific test and highly accurate. If the sample is positive here...you're fucked.
Quite an education huh? My take....those detox products are a waste of money. Timing is everything, keep the metabolism revved (exercise, eating) keep yourself trim (THC stored in fat) and drink plenty of water, just not too much on test day.
Good Luck and stay high!
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Dude, I've done a lot of research about this very subject. Read an interesting article in a law/criminal justice journal about the reliability of urine tests. Their conclusion was that the whole "30 days" rule that seems to be the general accepted timeline for THC metabolites to be undetectable is totally false. Their tests revealed that even heavy daily smokers only had >25 manograms (the typical cutoff for a positive test) in less than 17 days. They 30 days claim is used by the manufacturers of that "detox" bullshit.
THC is a fat soluable compound that is stored in the body's fat and slowly released over time. Nothing masks it, nothing makes it get out of your system faster other than a revved up metabolism.
I say that if you only smoke occassionally, 2 weeks should be enough time to get under the 25 manogram threshold.
There are test strips that you can buy online to test yourself. they are relitively cheap and accurate.
From my understanding, the urine test goes like this. Once you piss, the company will immediately test for temperature and specific gravity. Temp is to make sure your sample actually came from inside your body and the specific gravity is to make sure your test isn't too dilute. I'm not too sure what happens if you fail either of these tests. I think thaty may make you piss again with someone watching.
Once a good sample has been obtained, it is usually sent to a lab with hundreds of other samples and tested with strips that have a compound on them in which they THC metabolites compete to bind to. too much THC metabolites=a red strip and a positive test. Now, this isn't an immediate positive test as false positives occur fairly often so any positive sample is sent for further testing by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry which is a specific test and highly accurate. If the sample is positive here...you're fucked.
Quite an education huh? My take....those detox products are a waste of money. Timing is everything, keep the metabolism revved (exercise, eating) keep yourself trim (THC stored in fat) and drink plenty of water, just not too much on test day.
Vulture unless you understand how and why marijuana is illegal then you are arguing a losing battle..... here is a little hint: Alcohol companies provide millions/billions of dollars to keep it illegal because they dont want to have a competing drug on the market. The same with pharmaceutical companies because marijuana would cause them to lose out on billions of dollars and eliminate products of those companies.
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies. In the next 10-15 years I would wager that marijuana become decriminalized, if not legal. The argument of its illegal is bogus. Every single person does something illegal everyday of their lives.
Isn't online gambling illegal?? Speeding?? Not crossing the street at a cross walk?? The illegal argument is laughable when knowing how ridiculous it is that marijuana is illegal compared to other things being legal.
arguing that something should be legal cause u can get away with other illegal things is just plain stupid
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Quote Originally Posted by jpero:
Vulture unless you understand how and why marijuana is illegal then you are arguing a losing battle..... here is a little hint: Alcohol companies provide millions/billions of dollars to keep it illegal because they dont want to have a competing drug on the market. The same with pharmaceutical companies because marijuana would cause them to lose out on billions of dollars and eliminate products of those companies.
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies. In the next 10-15 years I would wager that marijuana become decriminalized, if not legal. The argument of its illegal is bogus. Every single person does something illegal everyday of their lives.
Isn't online gambling illegal?? Speeding?? Not crossing the street at a cross walk?? The illegal argument is laughable when knowing how ridiculous it is that marijuana is illegal compared to other things being legal.
arguing that something should be legal cause u can get away with other illegal things is just plain stupid
have been a union officer for over 20 years and have seen and heard of all the tricks and let me tell you from experience that there is NOTHING THAST WORKS OUT THERE TODAY.
BEST OF LUCK PAL YOU NEED TO STOP SMOKING THAT SHIT AGAIN
Wrong....You're an idiot.
GNC has a about 4 products that you slug down about 20-30 ounces after having drank a shitload of cranberry juice water etc. You just have to time it so that you are taking your piss test between 2-4 hours after drinking. About $40 a bottle. I smoked some herb (I do about once every year maybe) 2 days before a drug test and I passed easily.......
I know the owner of the store personally and he said only 3 people out of 1000 that he sold in in a year failed only because they didn't follow the instructions........
He almost pays his rent selling those $40 of detox shit....Funny as hell.
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Quote Originally Posted by yock1571:
have been a union officer for over 20 years and have seen and heard of all the tricks and let me tell you from experience that there is NOTHING THAST WORKS OUT THERE TODAY.
BEST OF LUCK PAL YOU NEED TO STOP SMOKING THAT SHIT AGAIN
Wrong....You're an idiot.
GNC has a about 4 products that you slug down about 20-30 ounces after having drank a shitload of cranberry juice water etc. You just have to time it so that you are taking your piss test between 2-4 hours after drinking. About $40 a bottle. I smoked some herb (I do about once every year maybe) 2 days before a drug test and I passed easily.......
I know the owner of the store personally and he said only 3 people out of 1000 that he sold in in a year failed only because they didn't follow the instructions........
He almost pays his rent selling those $40 of detox shit....Funny as hell.
Once again, I don't smoke pot, but it's my belief that it's not as harmful to the body as say,...uh, how much alcohol I consume. I don't get hammered all the time, but I'm definitely a social drinker, drink cabernet at home , and like to go out and really have a shit load of fun (intoxicated) usually a couple nights a week shooting some stick and doing shots with friends and shit.
...but I challenge anyone to put up a link in this thread regarding anyone from getting cancer from smoking weed long or short term. Pony up all you guys judging people that smoke herb. You won't find it.
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Once again, I don't smoke pot, but it's my belief that it's not as harmful to the body as say,...uh, how much alcohol I consume. I don't get hammered all the time, but I'm definitely a social drinker, drink cabernet at home , and like to go out and really have a shit load of fun (intoxicated) usually a couple nights a week shooting some stick and doing shots with friends and shit.
...but I challenge anyone to put up a link in this thread regarding anyone from getting cancer from smoking weed long or short term. Pony up all you guys judging people that smoke herb. You won't find it.
You make the point well. Especially the post about how getting up at 5am makes you a bitter cocksucker ... if you want to smoke a little weed to be happy then damn it, do it!
Vulture YOU STINK.
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You make the point well. Especially the post about how getting up at 5am makes you a bitter cocksucker ... if you want to smoke a little weed to be happy then damn it, do it!
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These fucking companies doing drug testing.
, and like to go out and really have a shit load of fun (intoxicated) usually a couple nights a week shooting some stick and doing shots with friends and shit.
Pony up all you guys judging people that smoke herb. You won't find it. 
YOU STINK. 
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