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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 8:43 AM ET #1

    Words can't describe this tragedy.  What the hell is wrong with people?  There are lots of questions that need to be answered.  But I find it interesting that this guy knew where the concert was and had a room facing the concert.  This is something that took some planning and wasn't a spur of the moment attack.  This just sucks. 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Words can't describe this tragedy.  What the hell is wrong with people?  There are lots of questions that need to be answered.  But I find it interesting that this guy knew where the concert was and had a room facing the concert.  This is something that took some planning and wasn't a spur of the moment attack.  This just sucks. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:13 AM ET #2

    He was there since 28th of September. 10 rifles found.. always wondered why there’s no surveillance at these hotels. And he must have had a balcony suite? So sad. God rest their souls...God bless the first responders... God bless the families that will forever be torn apart... 
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    He was there since 28th of September. 10 rifles found.. always wondered why there’s no surveillance at these hotels. And he must have had a balcony suite? So sad. God rest their souls...God bless the first responders... God bless the families that will forever be torn apart... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:14 AM ET #3

    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 
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    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:16 AM ET #4

    They definitely have to look through the surveillance cameras.  That takes a lot of time.  They will find out what's up.  It will take a lot of time because he checked in on the 28th.  So they have to carefully look through days of footage.  
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    They definitely have to look through the surveillance cameras.  That takes a lot of time.  They will find out what's up.  It will take a lot of time because he checked in on the 28th.  So they have to carefully look through days of footage.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:24 AM ET #5

    INSANE 

    Just INSANE 

    Prayers for all of those affected 
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    INSANE 

    Just INSANE 

    Prayers for all of those affected 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:38 AM ET #6

    Never mind. He shot through window.. 
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    Never mind. He shot through window.. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 10:02 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 

    It's time to ban automatic weapons in this country, this type of weapons belongs to battle field not on the street. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 

    It's time to ban automatic weapons in this country, this type of weapons belongs to battle field not on the street. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 10:03 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    INSANE 

    Just INSANE 

    Prayers for all of those affected 

    Very well agreed, sir. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    INSANE 

    Just INSANE 

    Prayers for all of those affected 

    Very well agreed, sir. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 10:39 AM ET #9

    I mean surveillance on luggage. Anyone can bring a bomb or weapons to a hotel. They need to have metal detectors and search bags like most hotels do overseas... 
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    I mean surveillance on luggage. Anyone can bring a bomb or weapons to a hotel. They need to have metal detectors and search bags like most hotels do overseas... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 12:19 PM ET #10

    He had semi auto rifles with a 300 dollar add on part to make the guns sound full auto. 
    Unfortunately there's just no law that would have stopped this raging psychopath, and ao matter what they'll figure out a way.

    God awful tragedy.
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    He had semi auto rifles with a 300 dollar add on part to make the guns sound full auto. 
    Unfortunately there's just no law that would have stopped this raging psychopath, and ao matter what they'll figure out a way.

    God awful tragedy.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 1:05 PM ET #11

    ATF allows Slide Fire stocks on AR-15's. Amazing. ..what a bunch of idiots..
    300 bucks and you have a machine gun.
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    ATF allows Slide Fire stocks on AR-15's. Amazing. ..what a bunch of idiots..
    300 bucks and you have a machine gun.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    And here comes the left with the gun control BS. Come and get my gun Democrats....I fuc%ing dare you
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    And here comes the left with the gun control BS. Come and get my gun Democrats....I fuc%ing dare you
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #13

    Why does anybody need a gun. Wait to protect your family from being robbed. Your gun isn't loaded, so are you going to tell the guy that broke into your house, to wait here while I go get my gun and then load it. Plus most of you guys, would be pissing in your pants. BAN ALL GUNS.
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    Why does anybody need a gun. Wait to protect your family from being robbed. Your gun isn't loaded, so are you going to tell the guy that broke into your house, to wait here while I go get my gun and then load it. Plus most of you guys, would be pissing in your pants. BAN ALL GUNS.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:27 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Day-trader1:

    I mean surveillance on luggage. Anyone can bring a bomb or weapons to a hotel. They need to have metal detectors and search bags like most hotels do overseas... 


    in all honesty, I thought IF we had a "mass casualty" event in my town, it would be a suitcase bomb on a casino floor OR more likely in a crowded sportsbook on a major football weekend like the NFL playoffs or Super Bowl OR during "March Madness"

    btw. I believe that the Wynn hotels now DO screen baggage and have metal detectors at their main entrances. never been to one of Steve Wynn's over priced "ripoff" joints BUT that is what I have heard

    btw, the absolute LAST thing Las Vegas needs is for that goof Donald Trump to come out here and do his usual political "grandstanding" after a tragedy  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day-trader1:

    I mean surveillance on luggage. Anyone can bring a bomb or weapons to a hotel. They need to have metal detectors and search bags like most hotels do overseas... 


    in all honesty, I thought IF we had a "mass casualty" event in my town, it would be a suitcase bomb on a casino floor OR more likely in a crowded sportsbook on a major football weekend like the NFL playoffs or Super Bowl OR during "March Madness"

    btw. I believe that the Wynn hotels now DO screen baggage and have metal detectors at their main entrances. never been to one of Steve Wynn's over priced "ripoff" joints BUT that is what I have heard

    btw, the absolute LAST thing Las Vegas needs is for that goof Donald Trump to come out here and do his usual political "grandstanding" after a tragedy  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:42 PM ET #15

    Jeusez Chriist-I can't believe all the Nancys on the site.After all the Hillarys ban all the Guns and confiscate all the Guns......Thats When I'm Going to Need MY Guns!!! Thats what the 2nd is all about in the visionary wisdom of the authors of the Constitution.
    Hillary Clinton in her never-ending Book Tour/Apology Campaign to sell horsesh*t to the horses,took less then 10 hours to pull out the old scripts on why America needs to Ban Guns.....for that alone we must never consider their rant.
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    Jeusez Chriist-I can't believe all the Nancys on the site.After all the Hillarys ban all the Guns and confiscate all the Guns......Thats When I'm Going to Need MY Guns!!! Thats what the 2nd is all about in the visionary wisdom of the authors of the Constitution.
    Hillary Clinton in her never-ending Book Tour/Apology Campaign to sell horsesh*t to the horses,took less then 10 hours to pull out the old scripts on why America needs to Ban Guns.....for that alone we must never consider their rant.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:48 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    ATF allows Slide Fire stocks on AR-15's. Amazing. ..what a bunch of idiots..
    300 bucks and you have a machine gun.

    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    ATF allows Slide Fire stocks on AR-15's. Amazing. ..what a bunch of idiots..
    300 bucks and you have a machine gun.

    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:55 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 

    He played high stakes video poker.

    Eric Paddock in an interview in Orlando, Florida, says his 64-year-old brother once "texted me a picture that he won $40,000 on a slot machine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    And how does this guy get 10 automatic weapons?  This guy has a roommate who is out of the country at the moment.  If he had a roommate, he probably didn't have much money to throw around to buy fully automatic weapons.  I'm sure that would cost a lot of money.  I'm gonna guess someone else was involved. 

    He played high stakes video poker.

    Eric Paddock in an interview in Orlando, Florida, says his 64-year-old brother once "texted me a picture that he won $40,000 on a slot machine."

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 3:24 PM ET #18

    Apparently he had once petitioned the Nevada Wagering Board for an action involving a Casino. 
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    Apparently he had once petitioned the Nevada Wagering Board for an action involving a Casino. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 3:37 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 

    If he wasn't able to use his AR15 full or semi autos he would just blow the place up and kill even more people.. There's no solution for these kinds of monsters. None. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 

    If he wasn't able to use his AR15 full or semi autos he would just blow the place up and kill even more people.. There's no solution for these kinds of monsters. None. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 3:43 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    And here comes the left with the gun control BS. Come and get my gun Democrats....I fuc%ing dare you

    Didn't even take you 24 hours to make a complete @ss of yourself again.   Go away for good this time.  You're not needed here    
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    And here comes the left with the gun control BS. Come and get my gun Democrats....I fuc%ing dare you

    Didn't even take you 24 hours to make a complete @ss of yourself again.   Go away for good this time.  You're not needed here    
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 3:47 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:


    If he wasn't able to use his AR15 full or semi autos he would just blow the place up and kill even more people.. There's no solution for these kinds of monsters. None. 

    That will require more extra difficult training to execute a blow up job to kill more people, apparently. With multiple military assault automatic guns in his hand would make him much easier to kill mass people, very unfortunately. As i've said, these AR-15 full or semi are for the purpose of combat field not on the street. Certainly, law enforcement would agree with the point here.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:


    If he wasn't able to use his AR15 full or semi autos he would just blow the place up and kill even more people.. There's no solution for these kinds of monsters. None. 

    That will require more extra difficult training to execute a blow up job to kill more people, apparently. With multiple military assault automatic guns in his hand would make him much easier to kill mass people, very unfortunately. As i've said, these AR-15 full or semi are for the purpose of combat field not on the street. Certainly, law enforcement would agree with the point here.    
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 3:57 PM ET #22

    I hate to say it, but you just can't watch everyone a hundred percent of the time and put metal detectors at the entrance to every building.  At least SO FAR, there was no reason this guy should have been on any watch list.  

    That said, I am curious to learn more about the details of this (ie. how he got his hands on all these weapons, etc.).  

    The dude let loose so much fire that the smoke set off the detector in his room.  I can't even fathom the horror all those people must have felt. 
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    I hate to say it, but you just can't watch everyone a hundred percent of the time and put metal detectors at the entrance to every building.  At least SO FAR, there was no reason this guy should have been on any watch list.  

    That said, I am curious to learn more about the details of this (ie. how he got his hands on all these weapons, etc.).  

    The dude let loose so much fire that the smoke set off the detector in his room.  I can't even fathom the horror all those people must have felt. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 4:24 PM ET #23

    [Quote: Originally Posted by HutchEmAll] I hate to say it, but you just can't watch everyone a hundred percent of the time and put metal detectors at the entrance to every building.  At least SO FAR, there was no reason this guy should have been on any watch list.  

    That said, I am curious to learn more about the details of this (ie. how he got his hands on all these weapons, etc.).  

    Probably a fanatic gun collector. You know the types that have a whole room filled with AR's and misc others. Then he starts adding bump fire stocks and promptly goes insane. 
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by HutchEmAll] I hate to say it, but you just can't watch everyone a hundred percent of the time and put metal detectors at the entrance to every building.  At least SO FAR, there was no reason this guy should have been on any watch list.  

    That said, I am curious to learn more about the details of this (ie. how he got his hands on all these weapons, etc.).  

    Probably a fanatic gun collector. You know the types that have a whole room filled with AR's and misc others. Then he starts adding bump fire stocks and promptly goes insane. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 4:37 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 

    did they confirm what the weapons were? that he was using a side fire/AR combo? or that they were fully auto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Yeah, that kind of weapons are designed for combat use, not on our neighbors, Search. It's not about left or right, this is all about the sense of security for us. 

    did they confirm what the weapons were? that he was using a side fire/AR combo? or that they were fully auto?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 4:52 PM ET #25

    The dude let loose so much fire that the smoke set off the detector in his room.  I can't even fathom the horror all those people must have felt.

    I was wondering HOW Las Vegas SWAT was able to find the shooters room so quickly. the Mandalay Bay one of THE biggest hotels on the strip. thank God they found him relatively fast

    overall gotta give the Las Vegas police and other law enforcement a huge for their actions
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    The dude let loose so much fire that the smoke set off the detector in his room.  I can't even fathom the horror all those people must have felt.

    I was wondering HOW Las Vegas SWAT was able to find the shooters room so quickly. the Mandalay Bay one of THE biggest hotels on the strip. thank God they found him relatively fast

    overall gotta give the Las Vegas police and other law enforcement a huge for their actions
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