If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

For us practicing Christians, death holds no fear for us. The Bible tells us to focus on the afterlife and not the world we live in now.

This world is all temporary, heaven is not.

For a Christian our rewards are eternal and we can choose where we are going by first accepting Jesus Christ as Our Lord Savior, secondly acknowledging and repenting our sins before God and lastly having a close relationship with the Lord.

The only reason to fear death is if you haven't followed those 3 steps I mentioned.

With all that I have said, I would be more inclined to believe that Dr. Collins has no fear of his death. After all he is a Christian.

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Its so funny how that even though you say that - you laugh at other people who just bieieve in something else.  I believe in unicorns and dragons.  You cant prove they dont exist.

So absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

But yet evidence tells you unicorns and dragons dont exist.

And here I am yet again debating logic with a person void of logic.  What could I possibly present to you to suddenly understand logic?  You have proven yourself over and over to be totally void of logic.

Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

the genius mind has a fine line, Dr. Collins went to church as a child for the music, the seeds were planted. Dr. Collins greatest emotion is the fear of death, this is what the desert goat herders discovered thousands of years ago, the power to control with fear. Dr. Collins is aware of his misogynistic, racist, sexist bibical god but because of his fear he chooses to go to the pew and listen to joel osteen's sugar coated stories. It is a pacifier for Dr. Collins fear of death.

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Every abortion that happens is another soul in heaven.

What kind of asshole are you to demand that that soul go through the torture of earth before his reward, when he can get it right away?  What is wrong with you?  You should be thrilled at abortions.  Another direct entrance to heaven without the relative pain of earth. 

So hippocritical of you christians.

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

You are nutty.

Ok, what can we say to such a person? All we can do is appeal to scientific values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over. If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?"

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

After all these pages of posts, you still cannot distinguish between something that is testable and somethng that is not testable....

After all this time you still dont know?

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Can science tell that a painting is beautiful ?

Can science tell me that i like blonde looking girls more than brunettes?

Can science tell me that cheating on a partber is wrong?

Can science tell why i like chocolate more than vanilla but my brother likes vanilla more than chocolate?

Do you want to continue to appeal to scientisim or should i stop?

Cmon man, after all these posts you still havent learnt a thing?

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

What PART of the bible do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE IT SAYS "THOU SHALL NOT KILL"?

Do you understand what that means? Or do you need someone to teach you?

DOes God say to kill so souls go to heavan?

I didnt think your  intelligence was this low.....

 

 

Quote Originally Posted by SALTY:

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Shouldnt you be out there ripping off and stealing cash off girls? Or maybe bagging out old senile men?

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Hey dopes, newsflash - YOU ARENT DOING THE KILLING.

So why do you STOP a soul from going to heaven? 

If you decide you dont want an abortion - fine.  But why are you stopping an innocent soul from going directly to heaven?

Come on logic boys.

Quote Originally Posted by SALTY:

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Are you that dumb? Really are you that dumb?

How does a soul get to heavan? uhm, the person must die first, how does that happen?

An abortion is murder.....

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

You arent very smart are you.

An aborted fetus goes straight to heaven.  You arent having the abortion, someone else is.

So why do you fight so hard to have all of these lucky aborted fetus souls to have to suffer on earth by being born, instead of going directly to heaven?

You should be thrilled that your neighbor is having an abortion.  It is one more lucky lottery winning soul getting a free ticket to heaven.  Who are you to stop that?  God said "thou shall not kill", he never said it was your responsibility from stopping your neighbor from having an abortion.

Think about it before responding.  I dont want to have to explain this for a 4th time.

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

You arent very smart are you.

An aborted fetus goes straight to heaven.  You arent having the abortion, someone else is.

Of course i am not having the abortion, but WHOEVER has an abortion for non health related issues is murdering there child. The bible says not to murder.....It doesnt give conditions,ie,  murder if you think the soul is going to go to heavan..... How is that different to me murdering a 5-6 year old that hasnt sinned?

So why do you fight so hard to have all of these lucky aborted fetus souls to have to suffer on earth by being born, instead of going directly to heaven?

LOL, i believe my mum will go to heavan, should i go and kill her? Or my 10 yr old nephew, should i kill her as well? lol

How about i go and murder the pope or when mother Theresa was alive....After all, i believe they are going to heavan, let me go and kill then all......

You should be thrilled that your neighbor is having an abortion.  It is one more lucky lottery winning soul getting a free ticket to heaven.  Who are you to stop that?  God said "thou shall not kill", he never said it was your responsibility from stopping your neighbor from having an abortion.

Oh dear, where is Gods condition that states , kill if you think the soul is going to heavan? Is this what atheism is about? And they say they are the line of reasoning.......

Think about it before responding.  I dont want to have to explain this for a 4th time.

Even though the bible plain flatly says that killing is not allowed under any circumstances, you are making rules where if you think the soul is going to go to heavan it is allowed to be killed OR, by letting the baby live, it is an injustice to the soul, youre better off killing it.......So by that reasoning, why dont i just go on a killing spree killing everyone i think is going to heavan.........

Atheism

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Does it make you feel good about yourself when you steal cash from woman and bag out senile old men? Do you look at yourself in the mirror , flex your muscles and tell yourself how tough you are......?

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Bible says - DO NOT MURDER....it doesnt give conditions, ie, if you think the soul is going to heavan, then kill it OR, if you think the baby is going to live a hard life, kill it.......

DO NOT KILL........That doesnt give you a license to kill based on what you think is good for the other person......

Are some people really that stupid?

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

I remember once i said, what if everyone in the world followed the 10 commandments to the letter of the law, would the world be a better place?

The question i got was, what if you had to lie to save a life from being killed........

Uhm, if everyone followed the commandments to the letter of the law, would someone be in a position to get killed and needed a lie to get off it?

It is exactly the same here, if the bible says do not kill, then NO baby woukd get killed (non health) regardless of the reason....

The person who wants to kill to send souls to heavan is believing one part of the bible, while disobeying another part of the bible...

Is this what this website has become?