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    SurfApe
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #3901

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    God would never tell anyone to kill themselves, He is holy and would never make an unholy command. Your question not valid it is incoherent.

     

    Yeah silly, he only tells his followers to commit genocide, murder, rape, infanticide and torture.  Suicide is a no no for gods special lil creatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    God would never tell anyone to kill themselves, He is holy and would never make an unholy command. Your question not valid it is incoherent.

     

    Yeah silly, he only tells his followers to commit genocide, murder, rape, infanticide and torture.  Suicide is a no no for gods special lil creatures.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #3902

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No!...really? Nah...that can't be!...lol

     Thanks for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No!...really? Nah...that can't be!...lol

     Thanks for proving my point.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #3903

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    God would never tell anyone to kill themselves, He is holy and would never make an unholy command. Your question not valid it is incoherent.

     


    I KNEW he would say that.  It is impossible for SJD to understand hypotheticals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    God would never tell anyone to kill themselves, He is holy and would never make an unholy command. Your question not valid it is incoherent.

     


    I KNEW he would say that.  It is impossible for SJD to understand hypotheticals.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #3904

    I will admit anytime anywhere that I do not have all the answers... not sure where you are getting that idea from... anywayssss, 
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    I will admit anytime anywhere that I do not have all the answers... not sure where you are getting that idea from... anywayssss, 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:03 PM ET #3905

    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

     Thanks for proving my point.

       

    Hey are you by any chance related to system?...hihihihihihi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

     Thanks for proving my point.

       

    Hey are you by any chance related to system?...hihihihihihi!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:05 PM ET #3906

    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:

    I will admit anytime anywhere that I do not have all the answers... not sure where you are getting that idea from... anywayssss, 

    I get the idea from your arrogant certitude regarding the topic at hand.  I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person in real life, but I don't know you, so i will form my opinions based upon what you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:

    I will admit anytime anywhere that I do not have all the answers... not sure where you are getting that idea from... anywayssss, 

    I get the idea from your arrogant certitude regarding the topic at hand.  I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person in real life, but I don't know you, so i will form my opinions based upon what you post.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:08 PM ET #3907

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

       

    Hey are you by any chance related to system?...hihihihihihi!

    verbal incontinence at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

       

    Hey are you by any chance related to system?...hihihihihihi!

    verbal incontinence at its finest.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:08 PM ET #3908

    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    I get the idea from your arrogant certitude regarding the topic at hand.  I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person in real life, but I don't know you, so i will form my opinions based upon what you post.


     Understandable, and I am sorry I have come across like that, because the "arrogance" I have portrayed today (if you want to call it that) is not how I have responded in here or any other place, and it is not how I want to conduct myself as a Christian or a human being. Thanks for pointing that out to me. This is my last post today as I am going to be with family and friends for New Years. Happy New Years 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    I get the idea from your arrogant certitude regarding the topic at hand.  I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person in real life, but I don't know you, so i will form my opinions based upon what you post.


     Understandable, and I am sorry I have come across like that, because the "arrogance" I have portrayed today (if you want to call it that) is not how I have responded in here or any other place, and it is not how I want to conduct myself as a Christian or a human being. Thanks for pointing that out to me. This is my last post today as I am going to be with family and friends for New Years. Happy New Years 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:09 PM ET #3909

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    I KNEW he would say that.  It is impossible for SJD to understand hypotheticals.

    Invalid statement...proposer deliberately mocking & ridiculing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    I KNEW he would say that.  It is impossible for SJD to understand hypotheticals.

    Invalid statement...proposer deliberately mocking & ridiculing

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:09 PM ET #3910

    You know what's funny is in my question itself, I explicitly accounted for the fact that SJD may say "god would never say that." I said I know it violates a commandment, but to put that aside and answer the question as if it would apply. But SJD is so incredibly stupid that he cannot answer the question. I EXPLICITLY SAID TO FOCUS SOLELY ON THE QUESTION AS IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. So, again, ANSWER THE QUESTION.
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    You know what's funny is in my question itself, I explicitly accounted for the fact that SJD may say "god would never say that." I said I know it violates a commandment, but to put that aside and answer the question as if it would apply. But SJD is so incredibly stupid that he cannot answer the question. I EXPLICITLY SAID TO FOCUS SOLELY ON THE QUESTION AS IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. So, again, ANSWER THE QUESTION.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #3911

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You say their lifestyle is sinful. I disagree. Your logic for why their lifestyle is sinful is that god said so. So I ask you, if it was in the bible that god said all men should kill themselves at 50 years old, would you kill yourself at age 50. Don't give me any nonsense regarding how that conflicts with a commandment. Just straight up, if that was in the bible and to be taken literally, what would you do?

    Post 3816. And what does SJD do? Completely ignores the POINT of the question and focuses on whatever it is he wants to focus on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You say their lifestyle is sinful. I disagree. Your logic for why their lifestyle is sinful is that god said so. So I ask you, if it was in the bible that god said all men should kill themselves at 50 years old, would you kill yourself at age 50. Don't give me any nonsense regarding how that conflicts with a commandment. Just straight up, if that was in the bible and to be taken literally, what would you do?

    Post 3816. And what does SJD do? Completely ignores the POINT of the question and focuses on whatever it is he wants to focus on.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:13 PM ET #3912

    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:


     Understandable, and I am sorry I have come across like that, because the "arrogance" I have portrayed today (if you want to call it that) is not how I have responded in here or any other place, and it is not how I want to conduct myself as a Christian or a human being. Thanks for pointing that out to me. This is my last post today as I am going to be with family and friends for New Years. Happy New Years 

    Yeah, i'm out too.  Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean that i dislike you personally.  Happy new year to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:


     Understandable, and I am sorry I have come across like that, because the "arrogance" I have portrayed today (if you want to call it that) is not how I have responded in here or any other place, and it is not how I want to conduct myself as a Christian or a human being. Thanks for pointing that out to me. This is my last post today as I am going to be with family and friends for New Years. Happy New Years 

    Yeah, i'm out too.  Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean that i dislike you personally.  Happy new year to everyone.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:17 PM ET #3913

    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    Yeah, i'm out too.  Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean that i dislike you personally.  Happy new year to everyone.


    I take it back, THIS is my last post tonight lol

    I respect that SurfApe  Enjoy the night
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    Yeah, i'm out too.  Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean that i dislike you personally.  Happy new year to everyone.


    I take it back, THIS is my last post tonight lol

    I respect that SurfApe  Enjoy the night
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:21 PM ET #3914

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    So, again, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

    I did answer your question. Are you having trouble comprehending it?

    Let me repeat my answer, I said your question not valid it is incoherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    So, again, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

    I did answer your question. Are you having trouble comprehending it?

    Let me repeat my answer, I said your question not valid it is incoherent.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:25 PM ET #3915

    Fine. Since your brain is too undeveloped to comprehend hypotheticals, how about this. If god said at the age of 50 every man must jump off a bridge into the water below or he won't be saved, would you do it?
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    Fine. Since your brain is too undeveloped to comprehend hypotheticals, how about this. If god said at the age of 50 every man must jump off a bridge into the water below or he won't be saved, would you do it?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 8:25 PM ET #3916

    Hey yall      HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    I love to stick around and chat but we have to go to a New Year's Eve party.

    I'll come by to chat in the New Year...how's that?

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    Hey yall      HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    I love to stick around and chat but we have to go to a New Year's Eve party.

    I'll come by to chat in the New Year...how's that?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 9:16 PM ET #3917

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    You say we believe in magic without a magician. You believe in magic with a magician and with no explanation as to how the magician was created, except that he is eternal...which somehow makes this theory more credible?

    So, before our current cosmology understandings, atheists always maintained the universe was eternal, meaning it is possible something was eternal........Now that it is proven the universe is not eternal, i say God is eternal, but something is not allowed to be eternal all of a sudden.

    Oh how the rules change......

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    You say we believe in magic without a magician. You believe in magic with a magician and with no explanation as to how the magician was created, except that he is eternal...which somehow makes this theory more credible?

    So, before our current cosmology understandings, atheists always maintained the universe was eternal, meaning it is possible something was eternal........Now that it is proven the universe is not eternal, i say God is eternal, but something is not allowed to be eternal all of a sudden.

    Oh how the rules change......

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 9:55 PM ET #3918

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    So, before our current cosmology understandings, atheists always maintained the universe was eternal, meaning it is possible something was eternal........Now that it is proven the universe is not eternal, i say God is eternal, but something is not allowed to be eternal all of a sudden.

    Oh how the rules change......


    It was believed to be infinite until it was proven otherwise.  This is how science works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    So, before our current cosmology understandings, atheists always maintained the universe was eternal, meaning it is possible something was eternal........Now that it is proven the universe is not eternal, i say God is eternal, but something is not allowed to be eternal all of a sudden.

    Oh how the rules change......


    It was believed to be infinite until it was proven otherwise.  This is how science works.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 10:04 PM ET #3919

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    It was believed to be infinite until it was proven otherwise.  This is how science works.

    Soooo, what are you saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    It was believed to be infinite until it was proven otherwise.  This is how science works.

    Soooo, what are you saying?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 10:10 PM ET #3920

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Soooo, what are you saying?


    The difference is you're making a crazy, untestable claim based on a supernatural world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Soooo, what are you saying?


    The difference is you're making a crazy, untestable claim based on a supernatural world.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 10:29 PM ET #3921

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    The difference is you're making a crazy, untestable claim based on a supernatural world.

    And you are making a claim that the supernatural can be disproven..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    The difference is you're making a crazy, untestable claim based on a supernatural world.

    And you are making a claim that the supernatural can be disproven..........

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 10:55 PM ET #3922

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And you are making a claim that the supernatural can be disproven..........


    STOP TWISTING WORDS AROUND!!

    When did I say that?!?  I even said the word "untestable" in the post you QUOTED.  Just because it can't be disproven doesn't make it any less stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And you are making a claim that the supernatural can be disproven..........


    STOP TWISTING WORDS AROUND!!

    When did I say that?!?  I even said the word "untestable" in the post you QUOTED.  Just because it can't be disproven doesn't make it any less stupid.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    Your hubris is astounding.  Ironic that we atheists possess the humbleness that you christians preach about.  Admitting that you do not have all the answers is not weakness.  Believing that you know something as fact sans any evidence is folly.

    It's called chops boys. Surfape has got 'em. You don't. Watch, and learn...
    I'd rather be playing D&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    Your hubris is astounding.  Ironic that we atheists possess the humbleness that you christians preach about.  Admitting that you do not have all the answers is not weakness.  Believing that you know something as fact sans any evidence is folly.

    It's called chops boys. Surfape has got 'em. You don't. Watch, and learn...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 7:29 PM ET #3924

    SURFAPE- You have got to be the most ignorant arrogant SOB on this thread. There is nothing else to prove. If you don't believe in God so be it. But your put downs and dismissive remarks only show how fearful you are about people who actually believe in the TRUTH. If you don't accept it thats your business but don't come on here and put us down because you have become Anti-God. When your pathetic ass is on your death bed you will realize the TRUTH and just how foolish you have become. Good luck to all you pathetic Atheist! This is an argument that will lose unfortunately we wont be there when the TRUTH slaps your pathetic butts in the face!
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    SURFAPE- You have got to be the most ignorant arrogant SOB on this thread. There is nothing else to prove. If you don't believe in God so be it. But your put downs and dismissive remarks only show how fearful you are about people who actually believe in the TRUTH. If you don't accept it thats your business but don't come on here and put us down because you have become Anti-God. When your pathetic ass is on your death bed you will realize the TRUTH and just how foolish you have become. Good luck to all you pathetic Atheist! This is an argument that will lose unfortunately we wont be there when the TRUTH slaps your pathetic butts in the face!
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 7:34 PM ET #3925

    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    It's called chops boys. Surfape has got 'em. You don't. Watch, and learn...
    JAGERFURY- I am still waiting for you to show me where on this thread that I made a racist remark to people of color or have made any disrespectful remarks towards women. Don't make accusations if you're not willing to back them up. You atheist always talk this "proof and evidence" crap and then turn around and make unfounded statements yourselves. You my friend are the biggest hypocrite of them all. I'm still waiting for you to prove your statement or maybe since you want to talk about "chops". Maybe you should grow a pair and quit talking trash. How about retracting that statement to preserve a modicum of respect for yourself. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    It's called chops boys. Surfape has got 'em. You don't. Watch, and learn...
    JAGERFURY- I am still waiting for you to show me where on this thread that I made a racist remark to people of color or have made any disrespectful remarks towards women. Don't make accusations if you're not willing to back them up. You atheist always talk this "proof and evidence" crap and then turn around and make unfounded statements yourselves. You my friend are the biggest hypocrite of them all. I'm still waiting for you to prove your statement or maybe since you want to talk about "chops". Maybe you should grow a pair and quit talking trash. How about retracting that statement to preserve a modicum of respect for yourself. 
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