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Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman

I was glued to the TV watching that stuff.  Loved it.

 
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Here's something I've been batting around in my mind... is it possible that we as humans only think that the speed of light is the universal speed limit because for the longest time that is the limit of our ability to measure speed? I mean if light molecules are the fastest thing we were able to measure, now that we can apparently measure time on that small of a size of scale of nanoseconds, perhaps the speed limit gets revised just because of human's increased ability to measure speed and time on a particulate scale?
 
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Humans are measuring things in their terms.  the speed of light, gravity, anti matter...blah blah blah. but what we perceive is just that. our perception of reality. 
 Imagine if there are beings observing us and what they are thinking and what their perception of us is.  

Newton founded some of the basic laws of physics only to be proved wrong by Einstein who in turn mayb proven incorrect about e=mc2.
granted they were intelligent men but they were just that... men.
and men make mistakes...especially when we are merely making observations or measurements..
u ask 10 different people u get 10 different answers...
its not like bumblebees or fish view things the same way we do.
we adapt to our surroundings.
and
we will NEVER know the reasons for being

the universe is probably billions of years old
with BILLIONS of galaxies harboring TRILLIONS of stars with MILLIONS of PLANETS circling them
we are small and insignificant but yet we think we are so important

I love learing about this stuff as much as anyone but I am relegated to that fact that it means nothing.
the earth will b a molten fireball b4 we unlock the secrets of the universe.
I think humans need to spend more time taking care of our small little rock b4 we go venturing into space and polluting another one.
 
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Scientists use brain imaging to reveal the movies in our mind



https://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2011/09/22/brain-movies/
 
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CERN scientists re-run experiment with a few tweaks, confirm results that neutrinos appear to be traveling faster than the speed of light (BBC News link).

The more I thought about it this morning though, the more I wonder if the experiment isn’t plagued with systemic problems. i.e., how do you coordinate the “starting time” with the clock at where the neutrino starts (point A) and ends (point B?). I mean do they have two guys on a telephone saying “ok we start the clock NOW”? (I imagine it has to be a tad more sophisticated than that.)

But here’s the main point that I’ve been grappling with this morning after reading the re-confirmation reports: if we as humans can only “measure” something based on our observation of that, isn’t the fact that the speed of light controls how FAST that information may get to us (in the form of sight or interpretation) make it so that even if something DID move faster than the speed of light, because the light would take a little bit longer to get to us for measurement, that we wouldn’t know that the thing was actually going FASTER than the light it gave off that we can observe? I mean back when Einstein came up with the universal speed limit at the speed of light, he had much cruder measuring/observational ability, didn’t he? So if he was theorizing this, of course he would think that is the speed limit because even if something was faster than the speed of light, we would never observe it until the light reached our eyes?


Sorry if that makes no sense… still not sure I quite have it worked out internally yet.
 
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The earth is flat, fuckers.  see here: https://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

 

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

CERN scientists re-run experiment with a few tweaks, confirm results that neutrinos appear to be traveling faster than the speed of light (BBC News link).

The more I thought about it this morning though, the more I wonder if the experiment isn’t plagued with systemic problems. i.e., how do you coordinate the “starting time” with the clock at where the neutrino starts (point A) and ends (point B?). I mean do they have two guys on a telephone saying “ok we start the clock NOW”? (I imagine it has to be a tad more sophisticated than that.)

But here’s the main point that I’ve been grappling with this morning after reading the re-confirmation reports: if we as humans can only “measure” something based on our observation of that, isn’t the fact that the speed of light controls how FAST that information may get to us (in the form of sight or interpretation) make it so that even if something DID move faster than the speed of light, because the light would take a little bit longer to get to us for measurement, that we wouldn’t know that the thing was actually going FASTER than the light it gave off that we can observe? I mean back when Einstein came up with the universal speed limit at the speed of light, he had much cruder measuring/observational ability, didn’t he? So if he was theorizing this, of course he would think that is the speed limit because even if something was faster than the speed of light, we would never observe it until the light reached our eyes?


Sorry if that makes no sense… still not sure I quite have it worked out internally yet.

Good stuff in this thread kap.  I missed it the first go-around, glad you bumped with the latest update.  I don't have much background in it, but I've always found this stuff interesting and wish I understood it a bit better.

With that being said, (and I don't doubt your thought process at all, just a bit over my head) I read and re-read this post 5 times, and all I can say is it makes my head hurt

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