What about the proposed "dark matter" that supposedly occupies over 90 some odd percent of space that hasn't been captured yet?
One of the biggest mysteries left in science... all of our theories say it should be there or else gravity would collapse the entire universe into a Big Crunch. The problem is how to we measure it? No one has been able to directly observe it yet.
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Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:
What about the proposed "dark matter" that supposedly occupies over 90 some odd percent of space that hasn't been captured yet?
One of the biggest mysteries left in science... all of our theories say it should be there or else gravity would collapse the entire universe into a Big Crunch. The problem is how to we measure it? No one has been able to directly observe it yet.
One of the biggest mysteries left in science... all of our theories say it should be there or else gravity would collapse the entire universe into a Big Crunch. The problem is how to we measure it? No one has been able to directly observe it yet.
Exactly kap. Also with this theory, the universe would be expanding infinitely if not for dark matter that slows down the expansion. Many bright minds suggests that eventually the expansion will come to a halt and that the Big Crunch is inevitable. Obviously the universe is still in it's infancy and thus the universe is still expanding at the current time.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
One of the biggest mysteries left in science... all of our theories say it should be there or else gravity would collapse the entire universe into a Big Crunch. The problem is how to we measure it? No one has been able to directly observe it yet.
Exactly kap. Also with this theory, the universe would be expanding infinitely if not for dark matter that slows down the expansion. Many bright minds suggests that eventually the expansion will come to a halt and that the Big Crunch is inevitable. Obviously the universe is still in it's infancy and thus the universe is still expanding at the current time.
I think the Big Crunch is an inevitability as well.... just a gut feeling though. I think that a prior Big Crunch would certainly explain the Big Bang, you know?
The other thought I had -- maybe dark matter doesn't exist, but the expansion is merely a result of the force that ejected matter out away from the center of the Big Bang? The amount of energy released in the Big Bang was really beyond our realm of understanding -- maybe that energy is still forcing out the outer realms of the universe and will eventually stop as it loses force over long periods of time? Maybe we've had Big Crunch, then Big Bang, ad infinitum?
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kickinA, love the science talk
I think the Big Crunch is an inevitability as well.... just a gut feeling though. I think that a prior Big Crunch would certainly explain the Big Bang, you know?
The other thought I had -- maybe dark matter doesn't exist, but the expansion is merely a result of the force that ejected matter out away from the center of the Big Bang? The amount of energy released in the Big Bang was really beyond our realm of understanding -- maybe that energy is still forcing out the outer realms of the universe and will eventually stop as it loses force over long periods of time? Maybe we've had Big Crunch, then Big Bang, ad infinitum?
Kickin, what do you think about this theory? I'll try to do my best of talking my way through it.
Scientists know that when a star
dies, what really happens is that it collapses in on itself because the force
of its gravity is so large secondary to the super denseness of the compact
mass, which pulls in everything remotely close to it. What happens after that?
The star EXPLODES and creates a supernova, ejecting material all over the
Universe.
How is not that just a small
scale example of a Big Crunch/Big Bang cycle?
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Kickin, what do you think about this theory? I'll try to do my best of talking my way through it.
Scientists know that when a star
dies, what really happens is that it collapses in on itself because the force
of its gravity is so large secondary to the super denseness of the compact
mass, which pulls in everything remotely close to it. What happens after that?
The star EXPLODES and creates a supernova, ejecting material all over the
Universe.
How is not that just a small
scale example of a Big Crunch/Big Bang cycle?
Well many physicists do suggests that perhaps the Big Bang is a direct result of matters that has been enveloped by super massive black holes all over, possibly from some parallel universe. What goes in one way must come out another, sort of logic behind this.
Big Crunch leading to Big Bang, ad infinitum......That certainly makes a lot of sense similar to a yoyo being strung up and down with the contraction and expansion. However where does that leave gravity?
My little brother is one of those brainiacs and he digs physics so whenever he pays a visit, these topics do come up. Bright kid.
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Well many physicists do suggests that perhaps the Big Bang is a direct result of matters that has been enveloped by super massive black holes all over, possibly from some parallel universe. What goes in one way must come out another, sort of logic behind this.
Big Crunch leading to Big Bang, ad infinitum......That certainly makes a lot of sense similar to a yoyo being strung up and down with the contraction and expansion. However where does that leave gravity?
My little brother is one of those brainiacs and he digs physics so whenever he pays a visit, these topics do come up. Bright kid.
Its hard to know what our universe is... we could be a molecule under the fingernail of a large being and we could have universes under our own. Time and size are two things we cannot understand and/or grasp. Its hard to predict a possible ending until we know actually what we are and what the origin is. We have mathematically traced things back to an instant... but we philosophically cannot see past that particular point.
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Its hard to know what our universe is... we could be a molecule under the fingernail of a large being and we could have universes under our own. Time and size are two things we cannot understand and/or grasp. Its hard to predict a possible ending until we know actually what we are and what the origin is. We have mathematically traced things back to an instant... but we philosophically cannot see past that particular point.
Yeah kap, that certainly makes a lot of sense. And imagine a hypernova that is even bigger than that of a supernova. However due to the lack of these gigantic stars (formulative stages, gravity, and lack of star building materials) that is well over 100 times our sun, these are a rarity. But those gamma rays that bursts out of these huge dying stars can literally fry our planet and life as we know it would be obsolete instantaneously. Science has observed and captured these, but fortunately it's from other far off galaxies, that we've been spared.
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Yeah kap, that certainly makes a lot of sense. And imagine a hypernova that is even bigger than that of a supernova. However due to the lack of these gigantic stars (formulative stages, gravity, and lack of star building materials) that is well over 100 times our sun, these are a rarity. But those gamma rays that bursts out of these huge dying stars can literally fry our planet and life as we know it would be obsolete instantaneously. Science has observed and captured these, but fortunately it's from other far off galaxies, that we've been spared.
Gravity would still be in existence in a cycle of Big Crunch/Big Bang, kickin -- gravity would be responsible for the Crunch itself because the force of gravity would get stronger as the mass of the point in space where the Bang would occur became more and more dense. Similar to just what we see with a collapsing star and supernova
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Gravity would still be in existence in a cycle of Big Crunch/Big Bang, kickin -- gravity would be responsible for the Crunch itself because the force of gravity would get stronger as the mass of the point in space where the Bang would occur became more and more dense. Similar to just what we see with a collapsing star and supernova
Its hard to know what our universe is... we could be a molecule under the fingernail of a large being and we could have universes under our own. Time and size are two things we cannot understand and/or grasp. Its hard to predict a possible ending until we know actually what we are and what the origin is. We have mathematically traced things back to an instant... but we philosophically cannot see past that particular point.
Like a grain of sand on a beach.
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
Its hard to know what our universe is... we could be a molecule under the fingernail of a large being and we could have universes under our own. Time and size are two things we cannot understand and/or grasp. Its hard to predict a possible ending until we know actually what we are and what the origin is. We have mathematically traced things back to an instant... but we philosophically cannot see past that particular point.
Even though I don't believe in Christ as devine... I do not rule out the possibility of a higher race of beings. Would it be that far fetched to think we could be entertainment for a higher race of beings? Or we were created by another race of beings?
Something created the universe .... the real question is who or what did
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Even though I don't believe in Christ as devine... I do not rule out the possibility of a higher race of beings. Would it be that far fetched to think we could be entertainment for a higher race of beings? Or we were created by another race of beings?
Something created the universe .... the real question is who or what did
Even though I don't believe in Christ as devine... I do not rule out the possibility of a higher race of beings. Would it be that far fetched to think we could be entertainment for a higher race of beings? Or we were created by another race of beings?
Something created the universe .... the real question is who or what did
I think we can rule out the Klingons on that, sparty.
In regards to our creator. It's very possible that an advance alien race landed here eons ago and mated with our ancestors, the Cro- Magnons, Neanderthals, person- erectus, etc. thus leading to our creation as we know it today. We all could very well be by- products of alien genes and not of this planet wholely like when the Europeans came over and mated with the native indians.
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
Even though I don't believe in Christ as devine... I do not rule out the possibility of a higher race of beings. Would it be that far fetched to think we could be entertainment for a higher race of beings? Or we were created by another race of beings?
Something created the universe .... the real question is who or what did
I think we can rule out the Klingons on that, sparty.
In regards to our creator. It's very possible that an advance alien race landed here eons ago and mated with our ancestors, the Cro- Magnons, Neanderthals, person- erectus, etc. thus leading to our creation as we know it today. We all could very well be by- products of alien genes and not of this planet wholely like when the Europeans came over and mated with the native indians.
Thats possible... I think theory based on the development of ancient Egypt considers that possible. The pyramids were pmathematically perfect...something we probably couldn't do today if we tried.
I'm hoping Mr. Spock arrives anyday now with the answers to some of these questions
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Thats possible... I think theory based on the development of ancient Egypt considers that possible. The pyramids were pmathematically perfect...something we probably couldn't do today if we tried.
I'm hoping Mr. Spock arrives anyday now with the answers to some of these questions
Thats possible... I think theory based on the development of ancient Egypt considers that possible. The pyramids were pmathematically perfect...something we probably couldn't do today if we tried.
I'm hoping Mr. Spock arrives anyday now with the answers to some of these questions
Not only the Pyramids of Egypt, but what about those stone figures, the Moai on Easter Island. How were the ancient Polynesians able to move and stand them up? Even with modern technologies, I doubt those feats could be duplicated. Truly bizarre.
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
Thats possible... I think theory based on the development of ancient Egypt considers that possible. The pyramids were pmathematically perfect...something we probably couldn't do today if we tried.
I'm hoping Mr. Spock arrives anyday now with the answers to some of these questions
Not only the Pyramids of Egypt, but what about those stone figures, the Moai on Easter Island. How were the ancient Polynesians able to move and stand them up? Even with modern technologies, I doubt those feats could be duplicated. Truly bizarre.
I have to admit, physics was never my strong suit, but how could they supposedly accelerate something 60 nanoseconds faster than light if that theory is correct?
Therein lies the rub.....
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
I have to admit, physics was never my strong suit, but how could they supposedly accelerate something 60 nanoseconds faster than light if that theory is correct?
I believe that we were transported from Mars...human life may have started there...as mentioned...we may very well be the by product of aliens...Mars was once a thriving planet with oceans and has elements of past life...possible asteriod impact could have caused a devastating calamity pushing it into a different orbit...some of the are craters on mars are miles deep...and mountains higher than any on earth...mars probes have and still are sending back info...there seems to be remnants of statues,cities and other unexplained phenom's... we cant even explore and conquer our own universe let alone the countless ones that lie past ours...there is no end to this fabric...food for thought...
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I believe that we were transported from Mars...human life may have started there...as mentioned...we may very well be the by product of aliens...Mars was once a thriving planet with oceans and has elements of past life...possible asteriod impact could have caused a devastating calamity pushing it into a different orbit...some of the are craters on mars are miles deep...and mountains higher than any on earth...mars probes have and still are sending back info...there seems to be remnants of statues,cities and other unexplained phenom's... we cant even explore and conquer our own universe let alone the countless ones that lie past ours...there is no end to this fabric...food for thought...
I think we can rule out the Klingons on that, sparty.
In regards to our creator. It's very possible that an advance alien race landed here eons ago and mated with our ancestors, the Cro- Magnons, Neanderthals, person- erectus, etc. thus leading to our creation as we know it today. We all could very well be by- products of alien genes and not of this planet wholely like when the Europeans came over and mated with the native indians.
If aliens landed here eons ago and decided to mate with our ancestors they must have been horny bastards. Not trying to be funny here.The only way i see them doing that is if it for some reason they were made to do it, or knew they had to. cant see them doing for the joy.
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Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:
I think we can rule out the Klingons on that, sparty.
In regards to our creator. It's very possible that an advance alien race landed here eons ago and mated with our ancestors, the Cro- Magnons, Neanderthals, person- erectus, etc. thus leading to our creation as we know it today. We all could very well be by- products of alien genes and not of this planet wholely like when the Europeans came over and mated with the native indians.
If aliens landed here eons ago and decided to mate with our ancestors they must have been horny bastards. Not trying to be funny here.The only way i see them doing that is if it for some reason they were made to do it, or knew they had to. cant see them doing for the joy.
I've often wondered if in fact we would ever discover something that could travel faster than light. I've actually never ruled out the possibility. Obviously Einstein was highly intelligent. But how could he make a statement like that about the universe when we've explored about a trillionth of 1% of it?
Thanks for the post. I'm gonna keep an eye on this.
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I've often wondered if in fact we would ever discover something that could travel faster than light. I've actually never ruled out the possibility. Obviously Einstein was highly intelligent. But how could he make a statement like that about the universe when we've explored about a trillionth of 1% of it?
Thanks for the post. I'm gonna keep an eye on this.
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