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    "GUN CONTROL" makes the problem much worse

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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2012 - 6:33 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    It says a lot about you that you have a hard on for a guy that has to resort to making things up and when he gets challenged to back up his BS he tries to change the subject and then disappears when he can’t.

    Since your special friend is MIA, perhaps you’d like to take up his mantle.  Here you go, slick:

    Do you have proof to support your claim that “99.99% of gun owners don’t have the courage to kill another person in an open environment” or are you just talking out of you’re a$$?

    Take away guns, huh?  There are over 300 million guns in America and a lot of gun owners have a “come and take it” attitude.  How exactly do you propose the government takes away the guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    It says a lot about you that you have a hard on for a guy that has to resort to making things up and when he gets challenged to back up his BS he tries to change the subject and then disappears when he can’t.

    Since your special friend is MIA, perhaps you’d like to take up his mantle.  Here you go, slick:

    Do you have proof to support your claim that “99.99% of gun owners don’t have the courage to kill another person in an open environment” or are you just talking out of you’re a$$?

    Take away guns, huh?  There are over 300 million guns in America and a lot of gun owners have a “come and take it” attitude.  How exactly do you propose the government takes away the guns?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2013 - 10:17 AM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:


    99.99 percent of gun owners don't have the courage to kill another person in an open environment!
    This isn't a closed setting with imobile targets at a gun range! 
    Evil is the problem, of course! you don't give people the chance to be evil! You take away guns! 

    There inlies the problem with your statement.  Gun control will not take away guns from the bad guys, only the good guys.

    If a deranged idiot is determined to do stupid stuff, he/she will find the way to do stupid stuff.  Illegal guns are always available to those that seek them out. 

    More gun control will simply make firearms more restrictive and more expensive to the good guys... in the end every liberal solution tends to make the situation worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:


    99.99 percent of gun owners don't have the courage to kill another person in an open environment!
    This isn't a closed setting with imobile targets at a gun range! 
    Evil is the problem, of course! you don't give people the chance to be evil! You take away guns! 

    There inlies the problem with your statement.  Gun control will not take away guns from the bad guys, only the good guys.

    If a deranged idiot is determined to do stupid stuff, he/she will find the way to do stupid stuff.  Illegal guns are always available to those that seek them out. 

    More gun control will simply make firearms more restrictive and more expensive to the good guys... in the end every liberal solution tends to make the situation worse.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2013 - 6:58 AM ET #128

    Yea, gun control doesn't work. It was an isolated incident.

    If a country has less than 100 guns, like Japan or Great Britain, then you can ban guns.

    But America is different, there are millions of guns, gun ban won't work for America. Hundreds of years too late.

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    Yea, gun control doesn't work. It was an isolated incident.

    If a country has less than 100 guns, like Japan or Great Britain, then you can ban guns.

    But America is different, there are millions of guns, gun ban won't work for America. Hundreds of years too late.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2013 - 6:20 PM ET #129

    So, Illinois will be voting on a ban on 90% of guns tomorrow.  The thing is, most Illinois residents have no clue.  They want to ban all semi auto rifles and pistols.  So that is pretty much every gun. 
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    So, Illinois will be voting on a ban on 90% of guns tomorrow.  The thing is, most Illinois residents have no clue.  They want to ban all semi auto rifles and pistols.  So that is pretty much every gun. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2013 - 12:25 AM ET #130

    New York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.

    Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.

    "Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

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    New York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.

    Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.

    "Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 4:38 AM ET #131

    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    And it seems about half the time mwhite82 is one of the anti-2A people on the receiving end yet he keeps coming back for me.  The guy must be a masochist.

    Oh well, I will happily oblige him yet again.

    Hey man I'm open game.... But I also pride myself on being athletic, sportsman, full of competition... So when you bring a gun into the arena where do you fall? A box, needing a bullshit weapon to defend yourself. How bout hands on, legit combat? Exactly a box that can only defend yourself w/ a gun, tough guy I see!!! YOU ARE the ESSENSE of why we need some type of gun laws. I have no problem w/ your 44 but I do have a problem w/ your gun that has 100 rounds. As my brother said "If you're in it for the hunt of big game, well let's provide you with 2 shots and if you miss well then that makes it a SPORT!" You vs a lion/bear, hey man it's sport and winner take all...Otherwise it's a box game w/ a 100 clip round, and you're pretty much scum of the earth, IMO!!!

    LOL, I'll just tag you w/ my nuke nxt time you wanna express 2nd Amendment BS that you clearly don't even understand! More power to ya w/ a single shot muscut! That's what the law allows, beyond that is all your BS made-up hype! Understand the Constitiution b4 you spout your ignorance my friend!!! Ignorance will destroy this country 1 day, because of folks like YOU IMO!!! Nice that you destroy a country that you supposedly love, Congrats....

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    And it seems about half the time mwhite82 is one of the anti-2A people on the receiving end yet he keeps coming back for me.  The guy must be a masochist.

    Oh well, I will happily oblige him yet again.

    Hey man I'm open game.... But I also pride myself on being athletic, sportsman, full of competition... So when you bring a gun into the arena where do you fall? A box, needing a bullshit weapon to defend yourself. How bout hands on, legit combat? Exactly a box that can only defend yourself w/ a gun, tough guy I see!!! YOU ARE the ESSENSE of why we need some type of gun laws. I have no problem w/ your 44 but I do have a problem w/ your gun that has 100 rounds. As my brother said "If you're in it for the hunt of big game, well let's provide you with 2 shots and if you miss well then that makes it a SPORT!" You vs a lion/bear, hey man it's sport and winner take all...Otherwise it's a box game w/ a 100 clip round, and you're pretty much scum of the earth, IMO!!!

    LOL, I'll just tag you w/ my nuke nxt time you wanna express 2nd Amendment BS that you clearly don't even understand! More power to ya w/ a single shot muscut! That's what the law allows, beyond that is all your BS made-up hype! Understand the Constitiution b4 you spout your ignorance my friend!!! Ignorance will destroy this country 1 day, because of folks like YOU IMO!!! Nice that you destroy a country that you supposedly love, Congrats....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 4:41 AM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    More children are killed by drowning each year than are killed by guns yet I don’t see any highly emotionally groups that are completely devoid of logic screaming for us to ban swimming pools.   

    Hmm…

    Provide facts on that idea my friend, I doubt that's legit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    More children are killed by drowning each year than are killed by guns yet I don’t see any highly emotionally groups that are completely devoid of logic screaming for us to ban swimming pools.   

    Hmm…

    Provide facts on that idea my friend, I doubt that's legit....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 4:45 AM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Oh, so because a madman didn’t intentionally drown the children, it’s ok that they are dead and it’s not worthy of attention?   

    Wise up.

    More children drown every year than are killed by guns, yet there’s no highly emotionally groups that are completely devoid of logic screaming for us to ban swimming pools. Do some research and tell me I’m wrong.

    I doubt you're reading facts correctly, IMAGINE THAT, but if you are the point is not mistakes people made by their own hand but choices gun KLLLERS made by theirs! More people die from guns than any other method in this country, I dare you to dispute that GENIUS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Oh, so because a madman didn’t intentionally drown the children, it’s ok that they are dead and it’s not worthy of attention?   

    Wise up.

    More children drown every year than are killed by guns, yet there’s no highly emotionally groups that are completely devoid of logic screaming for us to ban swimming pools. Do some research and tell me I’m wrong.

    I doubt you're reading facts correctly, IMAGINE THAT, but if you are the point is not mistakes people made by their own hand but choices gun KLLLERS made by theirs! More people die from guns than any other method in this country, I dare you to dispute that GENIUS!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 4:49 AM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    That’s the point, chuckles.  Attempting to ban guns in America is moronic just as attempting to ban cars or swimming pools would be.  Should we attempt to do so anyway because it might save lives?  How would it even be done?  How would it be enforced?

    Drugs are illegal.  How’s that going?  Hell, studies show that many children report it’s easier for them to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.

    Like I said in the post addressed to you that you refused to respond to: none of you loudmouth anti-2A types are offering up any real solutions.  It’s just a bunch of generic emotional comments and personal insults.

     

    Clearly we should give up!!! I mean try once and do the right thing, yet give up if not for immediate results... That's my mottto as well, darn trying if it didn't work in 5 yr's... Ignorance is but a joke, and we all are laughing at you my man SS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    That’s the point, chuckles.  Attempting to ban guns in America is moronic just as attempting to ban cars or swimming pools would be.  Should we attempt to do so anyway because it might save lives?  How would it even be done?  How would it be enforced?

    Drugs are illegal.  How’s that going?  Hell, studies show that many children report it’s easier for them to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.

    Like I said in the post addressed to you that you refused to respond to: none of you loudmouth anti-2A types are offering up any real solutions.  It’s just a bunch of generic emotional comments and personal insults.

     

    Clearly we should give up!!! I mean try once and do the right thing, yet give up if not for immediate results... That's my mottto as well, darn trying if it didn't work in 5 yr's... Ignorance is but a joke, and we all are laughing at you my man SS!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 4:55 AM ET #135

    I really don't even care, STATS back my point up that if you posses a gun you are sum 5x more likely to die of a gunshot.... Well I beg that most you fools own guns and a good 20%+ of you will die because of your ignorance...More power to ya!!! Common sense man, If a guy holds me up w/ a gun and I pull out cash I probably live, but if your MACHO man pulls out a gun then 1 of you likely dies... Genius I'll take my chances on that situation since $150 cash in my wallet isn't worth my life, IMO...Tho your a macho ignorant darn and that 150 probably is more valuable than your intelligence...JESUS CHRIST....C'mon MAN???
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    I really don't even care, STATS back my point up that if you posses a gun you are sum 5x more likely to die of a gunshot.... Well I beg that most you fools own guns and a good 20%+ of you will die because of your ignorance...More power to ya!!! Common sense man, If a guy holds me up w/ a gun and I pull out cash I probably live, but if your MACHO man pulls out a gun then 1 of you likely dies... Genius I'll take my chances on that situation since $150 cash in my wallet isn't worth my life, IMO...Tho your a macho ignorant darn and that 150 probably is more valuable than your intelligence...JESUS CHRIST....C'mon MAN???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 5:02 AM ET #136

    I love my words getting changed for sum BS PC garbage, yet my guns/ammo are totally cool no matter what age comprehension... I'll let my Lab shoot off some rounds, any problem? Now if I question an AR 15 w/ 50 rounds well then I clearly comprehend finding that right to fire those off... You cats are beyond a joke and I hope you enjoy your last couple months cuz ur ignorance won't be tolerated much more...Seriously WTF????
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    I love my words getting changed for sum BS PC garbage, yet my guns/ammo are totally cool no matter what age comprehension... I'll let my Lab shoot off some rounds, any problem? Now if I question an AR 15 w/ 50 rounds well then I clearly comprehend finding that right to fire those off... You cats are beyond a joke and I hope you enjoy your last couple months cuz ur ignorance won't be tolerated much more...Seriously WTF????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 5:23 AM ET #137

    SS....I should probably roll-over since you got the cat Search on your side, jesus christ what a powerful intelligent duo... HAHAHAHA... You 2 are the exact reason y we need a ban on certain weapons (cmon search are you really claiming total sanity) I luv you man but you w/ a weapon not what I wanna see!!!

    Now we can argue all day on constitional law, granted you will claim more recent viewpoints from biased judges, NOT THOSE OF THE FOUNDERS, rather certain political subjects. The law stated a muscut as a part of a defined militia! Granted you may follow what certain conservative judge forced interpretation, but that really wasn't the founders intent and if you exclaim otherwise then you're just bullshitting yourself! That's the real deal yo, and otherwise your just a fraud, exclaiming fraudulent viewpoints! Study the law/constition if you doubt me, my friend!!! Of course you cannot, that's way beyond your pay grade of intelligence!!! I don't wanna take away your guns, just magazines of 30+ rounds.

    Please explain y U need to have a magazine larger than 20 rounds? Cuz you want to shoot at a range doesn't pass any smell test... Have some human dignity w/ your decision, my man! Ur ignorance/defiance will destroy you in the end my friend

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    SS....I should probably roll-over since you got the cat Search on your side, jesus christ what a powerful intelligent duo... HAHAHAHA... You 2 are the exact reason y we need a ban on certain weapons (cmon search are you really claiming total sanity) I luv you man but you w/ a weapon not what I wanna see!!!

    Now we can argue all day on constitional law, granted you will claim more recent viewpoints from biased judges, NOT THOSE OF THE FOUNDERS, rather certain political subjects. The law stated a muscut as a part of a defined militia! Granted you may follow what certain conservative judge forced interpretation, but that really wasn't the founders intent and if you exclaim otherwise then you're just bullshitting yourself! That's the real deal yo, and otherwise your just a fraud, exclaiming fraudulent viewpoints! Study the law/constition if you doubt me, my friend!!! Of course you cannot, that's way beyond your pay grade of intelligence!!! I don't wanna take away your guns, just magazines of 30+ rounds.

    Please explain y U need to have a magazine larger than 20 rounds? Cuz you want to shoot at a range doesn't pass any smell test... Have some human dignity w/ your decision, my man! Ur ignorance/defiance will destroy you in the end my friend

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 5:30 AM ET #138

    I'd cry for your BS, but I can only laugh at your ignorance.. Cmon MAN!!!
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    I'd cry for your BS, but I can only laugh at your ignorance.. Cmon MAN!!!
     
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    Ur all a waste of my time.... I got nothing to persuade the dumbest of the dumb, Sorry.... Ignorant a'holes!!!! Congrats of showing your stupidity!!!! WTF, man, get rid of these paranoid, ingnorant, foolish tools.. Otherwise we r destined for garbage if they get their way..... Tremendous paranoid country is in your hands SS and friends... Genius concepts are all around from these intelligent cats!!! It's a sad story that fools can collect such weapons of destruction, at least I'm not a kid defending myself against MORONS! What a shame they have put on this country. GL my friends, kill eachother, at least I'lll survive to see another day, dumbfuck radicals!!!!

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    Ur all a waste of my time.... I got nothing to persuade the dumbest of the dumb, Sorry.... Ignorant a'holes!!!! Congrats of showing your stupidity!!!! WTF, man, get rid of these paranoid, ingnorant, foolish tools.. Otherwise we r destined for garbage if they get their way..... Tremendous paranoid country is in your hands SS and friends... Genius concepts are all around from these intelligent cats!!! It's a sad story that fools can collect such weapons of destruction, at least I'm not a kid defending myself against MORONS! What a shame they have put on this country. GL my friends, kill eachother, at least I'lll survive to see another day, dumbfuck radicals!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2013 - 5:44 AM ET #140

    Peace Out, beyond comprehension of SS and others... Bullets go down in their thougts, fooolish fantasies!!!

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    Peace Out, beyond comprehension of SS and others... Bullets go down in their thougts, fooolish fantasies!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 2:51 PM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:

    New York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.

    Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.

    "Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

    Kind of funny coming from a guy trying to ban soft drinks in servings more than 16 ounces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:

    New York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.

    Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.

    "Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."

    Kind of funny coming from a guy trying to ban soft drinks in servings more than 16 ounces.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 2:52 PM ET #142

    Quote Originally Posted by mwhit82:

    Provide facts on that idea my friend, I doubt that's legit....

    https://extranosalley.com/?p=36321

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwhit82:

    Provide facts on that idea my friend, I doubt that's legit....

    https://extranosalley.com/?p=36321

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 3:08 PM ET #143

    mwhit82,

    We have been down this road before.  You’re getting you’re a$$ kicked in a gun related thread, then later you get drunk/high and out of frustration you rattle off a bunch of nonsensical ramblings at 2-4 in the morning.  Although at least this time you didn’t randomly bring up Sarah Palin and make post after post trashing her and her family.

    If you want to sober up and at least attempt to have a somewhat intelligent discussion on the matter it would be my pleasure to knock you around again.

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    mwhit82,

    We have been down this road before.  You’re getting you’re a$$ kicked in a gun related thread, then later you get drunk/high and out of frustration you rattle off a bunch of nonsensical ramblings at 2-4 in the morning.  Although at least this time you didn’t randomly bring up Sarah Palin and make post after post trashing her and her family.

    If you want to sober up and at least attempt to have a somewhat intelligent discussion on the matter it would be my pleasure to knock you around again.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2013 - 7:20 PM ET #144

    SS,
    Would your neighbors describe you as "a quiet neighbor who mostly keeps to himself"?


    Just curious.
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    SS,
    Would your neighbors describe you as "a quiet neighbor who mostly keeps to himself"?


    Just curious.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by konabuzz:

    SS,
    Would your neighbors describe you as "a quiet neighbor who mostly keeps to himself"?


    Just curious.

    Quite?  Probably.

    Mostly keeps to myself?  Probably not.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by konabuzz:

    SS,
    Would your neighbors describe you as "a quiet neighbor who mostly keeps to himself"?


    Just curious.

    Quite?  Probably.

    Mostly keeps to myself?  Probably not.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2013 - 7:18 PM ET #146

    heard the guy in norway played world of warcraft all day and night and the guy in sandy hook played modern warefare or w/e its called all day

    those two korean guys were crazy in the dome. onh goh is on trial as we speak in the bay areaaaaaaaaaaaa
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    heard the guy in norway played world of warcraft all day and night and the guy in sandy hook played modern warefare or w/e its called all day

    those two korean guys were crazy in the dome. onh goh is on trial as we speak in the bay areaaaaaaaaaaaa
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    heard the guy in norway played world of warcraft all day and night and the guy in sandy hook played modern warefare or w/e its called all day

    those two korean guys were crazy in the dome. onh goh is on trial as we speak in the bay areaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Correlation vs causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    heard the guy in norway played world of warcraft all day and night and the guy in sandy hook played modern warefare or w/e its called all day

    those two korean guys were crazy in the dome. onh goh is on trial as we speak in the bay areaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Correlation vs causation.

     
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    The United States is the top weapon exporter in the world.  But are weapons making the world safer or more dangerous? 

    In murders, the 3 most common methods are guns first followed by knives and beatings.  Bombs are rarely used and harder to obtain.  But guns are more reliable. Harder to kill with knives or beatings.  In recent months, all 20 children survived knife attack in China but all children died from gun shooting at U.S. school.

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    The United States is the top weapon exporter in the world.  But are weapons making the world safer or more dangerous? 

    In murders, the 3 most common methods are guns first followed by knives and beatings.  Bombs are rarely used and harder to obtain.  But guns are more reliable. Harder to kill with knives or beatings.  In recent months, all 20 children survived knife attack in China but all children died from gun shooting at U.S. school.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2013 - 11:08 AM ET #149

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Correlation vs causation.



    Correlation does not equal Causation

    my Psyche prof has a dance to this concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Correlation vs causation.



    Correlation does not equal Causation

    my Psyche prof has a dance to this concept.
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