this probably won't come as a great surprise to you, but sandusky was a born again chrsitian before he got busted, when he was freely molesting these kids. maybe now that he is in prison, he will become a re-born again christian. many people in prison are born again christians. i don't know if they get into to heaven.
I wasn't aware that he was born again. I would say this is going to set Christianity back but it's really not surprising anymore.
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
this probably won't come as a great surprise to you, but sandusky was a born again chrsitian before he got busted, when he was freely molesting these kids. maybe now that he is in prison, he will become a re-born again christian. many people in prison are born again christians. i don't know if they get into to heaven.
I wasn't aware that he was born again. I would say this is going to set Christianity back but it's really not surprising anymore.
i know i saw on the news that he was. i can't recall if it was before or after. i do know, at least all of the articles say, that he was pretty religious before he got busted. it could be that he became born again while he was awaiting trial. that's a tactic some people use.
i know i saw on the news that he was. i can't recall if it was before or after. i do know, at least all of the articles say, that he was pretty religious before he got busted. it could be that he became born again while he was awaiting trial. that's a tactic some people use.
yep, according to this crazy religion, he'll be there with his buddy onlygod...
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
yep, according to this crazy religion, he'll be there with his buddy onlygod...
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
so, that sounds right to you? a person leads a good life, but does not believe in "god" goes to "hell", yet a person who commits atrocities goes to "heaven", because they believe?
makes sense to me
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
so, that sounds right to you? a person leads a good life, but does not believe in "god" goes to "hell", yet a person who commits atrocities goes to "heaven", because they believe?
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
If he knew all, why would he let those young boys be raped like that? Why would he instill this sick perversion to even exist in the world?
I don't think we should forgive child molesters or child killers. They are the worst scum on the earth. There is nothing more defenseless than a child, and people are supposed to forgive acts against children because the person asks for forgiveness?
Sandusky hasn't admitted to it because he is so effed in the head that he a) doesn't think he did anything wrong b) really "loved" those young boys and thought he was showing them affection and c) probably still thinks he has a chance at going free somehow, someway.
He is a sick individual and there is absolutely no excuse, none whatsoever for doing that to children. Regardless of how you are raised, what your sexual desires are, or any other excuse. He is scum of the earth and, if there is a heaven, no amount of seeking forgiveness should ever get in there.
And quite honestly if there is a heaven and Sandusky and other perverts were allowed in there, I wouldn't want to be there with them anyway.
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
True repentence. God forgives sinners, that's what he does. Now if he does that, shouldn't we? He's a righteous God that knows all, I'm confident he'll handle ole Jerry fairly. BTW I haven't heard anything but denial from the molester. He won't even admit what he did, let alone ask for forgiveness.
If he knew all, why would he let those young boys be raped like that? Why would he instill this sick perversion to even exist in the world?
I don't think we should forgive child molesters or child killers. They are the worst scum on the earth. There is nothing more defenseless than a child, and people are supposed to forgive acts against children because the person asks for forgiveness?
Sandusky hasn't admitted to it because he is so effed in the head that he a) doesn't think he did anything wrong b) really "loved" those young boys and thought he was showing them affection and c) probably still thinks he has a chance at going free somehow, someway.
He is a sick individual and there is absolutely no excuse, none whatsoever for doing that to children. Regardless of how you are raised, what your sexual desires are, or any other excuse. He is scum of the earth and, if there is a heaven, no amount of seeking forgiveness should ever get in there.
And quite honestly if there is a heaven and Sandusky and other perverts were allowed in there, I wouldn't want to be there with them anyway.
Freewill Train. We're not robots. We have the freewill to make choices and we are born imperfect. We could all be programmed to worship God and do only good. Instead we are given the gift of freewill to choose what path WE decide. If he intervened in any fashion we wouldn't be free. I would love to see some things removed from the equation, but it just doesn't work that way (sorry).
I agree 99% with your post. But He's a forgiving God, we need that. Certainly our shortcomings are nowhere near ole Jerry's (thank the Lord) but God is the ultimate judge, and he's NEVER wrong. I do agree that if you molest children, your done, no second chances, it should be a life sentence because your not wired correctly and ruining a childs life is intolerable and if you cross that line once your not fit to live in our society. I'm sure it pains God greatly that the Jerry's of the world exist.
God will fix up the abused and take away their pain eventually, until then we thrash around in this sick world that gets worse every single day.
I have softened a little in my maturity regarding forgiveness. I love dogs. What Michael Vick did was horrendous, then he lied about it. After he admitted what he did, did his time and asked for forgiveness, who are we to deny him forever?
And Sys, of course the person that commits atrocities could never get to heaven because they just believe. Just believing gets you nowhere. You have to LIVE like it and I'm pretty sure committing atrocities would exempt you from entering God's paradise quite quickly. The other person that leads a good live that doesn't believe in God is another completely different situation. I don't think they will both be treated the same IMO (and that's all I have is an opinion).
Freewill Train. We're not robots. We have the freewill to make choices and we are born imperfect. We could all be programmed to worship God and do only good. Instead we are given the gift of freewill to choose what path WE decide. If he intervened in any fashion we wouldn't be free. I would love to see some things removed from the equation, but it just doesn't work that way (sorry).
I agree 99% with your post. But He's a forgiving God, we need that. Certainly our shortcomings are nowhere near ole Jerry's (thank the Lord) but God is the ultimate judge, and he's NEVER wrong. I do agree that if you molest children, your done, no second chances, it should be a life sentence because your not wired correctly and ruining a childs life is intolerable and if you cross that line once your not fit to live in our society. I'm sure it pains God greatly that the Jerry's of the world exist.
God will fix up the abused and take away their pain eventually, until then we thrash around in this sick world that gets worse every single day.
I have softened a little in my maturity regarding forgiveness. I love dogs. What Michael Vick did was horrendous, then he lied about it. After he admitted what he did, did his time and asked for forgiveness, who are we to deny him forever?
And Sys, of course the person that commits atrocities could never get to heaven because they just believe. Just believing gets you nowhere. You have to LIVE like it and I'm pretty sure committing atrocities would exempt you from entering God's paradise quite quickly. The other person that leads a good live that doesn't believe in God is another completely different situation. I don't think they will both be treated the same IMO (and that's all I have is an opinion).
Freewill Train. We're not robots. We have the freewill to make choices and we are born imperfect. We could all be programmed to worship God and do only good. Instead we are given the gift of freewill to choose what path WE decide. If he intervened in any fashion we wouldn't be free. I would love to see some things removed from the equation, but it just doesn't work that way (sorry).
I agree 99% with your post. But He's a forgiving God, we need that. Certainly our shortcomings are nowhere near ole Jerry's (thank the Lord) but God is the ultimate judge, and he's NEVER wrong. I do agree that if you molest children, your done, no second chances, it should be a life sentence because your not wired correctly and ruining a childs life is intolerable and if you cross that line once your not fit to live in our society. I'm sure it pains God greatly that the Jerry's of the world exist.
God will fix up the abused and take away their pain eventually, until then we thrash around in this sick world that gets worse every single day.
I have softened a little in my maturity regarding forgiveness. I love dogs. What Michael Vick did was horrendous, then he lied about it. After he admitted what he did, did his time and asked for forgiveness, who are we to deny him forever?
And Sys, of course the person that commits atrocities could never get to heaven because they just believe. Just believing gets you nowhere. You have to LIVE like it and I'm pretty sure committing atrocities would exempt you from entering God's paradise quite quickly. The other person that leads a good live that doesn't believe in God is another completely different situation. I don't think they will both be treated the same IMO (and that's all I have is an opinion).
sorry, but you're making up your own rules now. according to christianity, you will go to heaven if you repent your sins and give yourself to jesus christ...so, yes, people that commit atrocities can get into heaven...
and things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say they are better...
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Freewill Train. We're not robots. We have the freewill to make choices and we are born imperfect. We could all be programmed to worship God and do only good. Instead we are given the gift of freewill to choose what path WE decide. If he intervened in any fashion we wouldn't be free. I would love to see some things removed from the equation, but it just doesn't work that way (sorry).
I agree 99% with your post. But He's a forgiving God, we need that. Certainly our shortcomings are nowhere near ole Jerry's (thank the Lord) but God is the ultimate judge, and he's NEVER wrong. I do agree that if you molest children, your done, no second chances, it should be a life sentence because your not wired correctly and ruining a childs life is intolerable and if you cross that line once your not fit to live in our society. I'm sure it pains God greatly that the Jerry's of the world exist.
God will fix up the abused and take away their pain eventually, until then we thrash around in this sick world that gets worse every single day.
I have softened a little in my maturity regarding forgiveness. I love dogs. What Michael Vick did was horrendous, then he lied about it. After he admitted what he did, did his time and asked for forgiveness, who are we to deny him forever?
And Sys, of course the person that commits atrocities could never get to heaven because they just believe. Just believing gets you nowhere. You have to LIVE like it and I'm pretty sure committing atrocities would exempt you from entering God's paradise quite quickly. The other person that leads a good live that doesn't believe in God is another completely different situation. I don't think they will both be treated the same IMO (and that's all I have is an opinion).
sorry, but you're making up your own rules now. according to christianity, you will go to heaven if you repent your sins and give yourself to jesus christ...so, yes, people that commit atrocities can get into heaven...
and things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say they are better...
Better? More people died in wars in the 20th century than every century combined.
Better? Millions have died from AIDS since 1982.
Better? Many nations have enough weapons to end the world. Perhaps you've noticed Iran can't wait to wipe Israel off the map. (Their words not mine) and if it brings the end of the world - so be it.
How about the recent earthquakes that killed hundreds of thousands. Haiti, Japan.
Nearly every government on earth is bankrupt, they just don't know it yet.
Our own country (supposedly free and peaceful) had 16,000+ murders last year.
Abortion - 54,559,615 terminated since 1973.
Train wonders why God allows the Jerry Sandusky's to exist when our own country has a total like that of extermination of little boys & girls.
But you claim things are better today huh, sure wouldn't like to see if they were worse?
If you truly repent for your sins your will be forgiven. I don't think you'll waltz right into heaven with a "Got away with that one attitude however".
Better? More people died in wars in the 20th century than every century combined.
Better? Millions have died from AIDS since 1982.
Better? Many nations have enough weapons to end the world. Perhaps you've noticed Iran can't wait to wipe Israel off the map. (Their words not mine) and if it brings the end of the world - so be it.
How about the recent earthquakes that killed hundreds of thousands. Haiti, Japan.
Nearly every government on earth is bankrupt, they just don't know it yet.
Our own country (supposedly free and peaceful) had 16,000+ murders last year.
Abortion - 54,559,615 terminated since 1973.
Train wonders why God allows the Jerry Sandusky's to exist when our own country has a total like that of extermination of little boys & girls.
But you claim things are better today huh, sure wouldn't like to see if they were worse?
If you truly repent for your sins your will be forgiven. I don't think you'll waltz right into heaven with a "Got away with that one attitude however".
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
Society is speeding on the HIghway to Hell IMO.
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
Society is speeding on the HIghway to Hell IMO.
answer me this...would you rather live now or during any other time period in history? If you say any other time period, then that is your opinion, but I would rather live now...
there have always been bad people, diseases, disasters, abortion, and wars...I would say the technology and scientific discovery makes living now much better than living in the past...
you keep living your life thinking how bad everything is and how you'll soon be in a better place, and I'll live mine enjoying the life I have now, knowing it's the only one I'll have...
I love how you talk about not judging, and then look at one person and their appearance, and know what they're all about... especially at 18 or 19
by the way, people have been tattooing their bodies for thousands of years...
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
Society is speeding on the HIghway to Hell IMO.
answer me this...would you rather live now or during any other time period in history? If you say any other time period, then that is your opinion, but I would rather live now...
there have always been bad people, diseases, disasters, abortion, and wars...I would say the technology and scientific discovery makes living now much better than living in the past...
you keep living your life thinking how bad everything is and how you'll soon be in a better place, and I'll live mine enjoying the life I have now, knowing it's the only one I'll have...
I love how you talk about not judging, and then look at one person and their appearance, and know what they're all about... especially at 18 or 19
by the way, people have been tattooing their bodies for thousands of years...
answer me this...would you rather live now or during any other time period in history? If you say any other time period, then that is your opinion, but I would rather live now...
there have always been bad people, diseases, disasters, abortion, and wars...I would say the technology and scientific discovery makes living now much better than living in the past...
you keep living your life thinking how bad everything is and how you'll soon be in a better place, and I'll live mine enjoying the life I have now, knowing it's the only one I'll have...
I love how you talk about not judging, and then look at one person and their appearance, and know what they're all about... especially at 18 or 19
by the way, people have been tattooing their bodies for thousands of years...
i might consider the idea that i'd rather have been in my early 20's in the sixties. i was in my 20's in the early 90's when all the aids hysteria was going around and tio be honest, i think it slowed me down a little (although it could have just been my inability to get the job done at times, who's to say). also, people had a better attitide about drugs bacjk then, not as many uptight people. also seemed to be less religion influenced politics, i.e., the do as i say, not as i do crowd, but i could be wrong about that. i mean, did they ever have a table where the likes of santorum,. bachmannia, rick perry, herman cain, and romney sat around it and theyw ere conwsidered presidential hopefuls rather than people watching a checkers game at a nuthouse or a scientific experiment? maybe, but it happened recently and it was a horror show.
i think the food was healthier back then and less genetically engineered garbage corrupting the food supply.
i bet it was cheaper to live in california back then and that's where the Church of ClubDirt headquarters really needs to be.
the wife gave me an ipad for my birthday two years ago. i have no use for it.
i do like the internet though and satellite tv and the soccer and being able to place a bet on my phone.
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
answer me this...would you rather live now or during any other time period in history? If you say any other time period, then that is your opinion, but I would rather live now...
there have always been bad people, diseases, disasters, abortion, and wars...I would say the technology and scientific discovery makes living now much better than living in the past...
you keep living your life thinking how bad everything is and how you'll soon be in a better place, and I'll live mine enjoying the life I have now, knowing it's the only one I'll have...
I love how you talk about not judging, and then look at one person and their appearance, and know what they're all about... especially at 18 or 19
by the way, people have been tattooing their bodies for thousands of years...
i might consider the idea that i'd rather have been in my early 20's in the sixties. i was in my 20's in the early 90's when all the aids hysteria was going around and tio be honest, i think it slowed me down a little (although it could have just been my inability to get the job done at times, who's to say). also, people had a better attitide about drugs bacjk then, not as many uptight people. also seemed to be less religion influenced politics, i.e., the do as i say, not as i do crowd, but i could be wrong about that. i mean, did they ever have a table where the likes of santorum,. bachmannia, rick perry, herman cain, and romney sat around it and theyw ere conwsidered presidential hopefuls rather than people watching a checkers game at a nuthouse or a scientific experiment? maybe, but it happened recently and it was a horror show.
i think the food was healthier back then and less genetically engineered garbage corrupting the food supply.
i bet it was cheaper to live in california back then and that's where the Church of ClubDirt headquarters really needs to be.
the wife gave me an ipad for my birthday two years ago. i have no use for it.
i do like the internet though and satellite tv and the soccer and being able to place a bet on my phone.
i might consider the idea that i'd rather have been in my early 20's in the sixties. i was in my 20's in the early 90's when all the aids hysteria was going around and tio be honest, i think it slowed me down a little (although it could have just been my inability to get the job done at times, who's to say). also, people had a better attitide about drugs bacjk then, not as many uptight people. also seemed to be less religion influenced politics, i.e., the do as i say, not as i do crowd, but i could be wrong about that. i mean, did they ever have a table where the likes of santorum,. bachmannia, rick perry, herman cain, and romney sat around it and theyw ere conwsidered presidential hopefuls rather than people watching a checkers game at a nuthouse or a scientific experiment? maybe, but it happened recently and it was a horror show.
i think the food was healthier back then and less genetically engineered garbage corrupting the food supply.
i bet it was cheaper to live in california back then and that's where the Church of ClubDirt headquarters really needs to be.
the wife gave me an ipad for my birthday two years ago. i have no use for it.
i do like the internet though and satellite tv and the soccer and being able to place a bet on my phone.
well, no time period is perfect brother club, but you make some good points. I would consider that too
the soccer is definitely better now!
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i might consider the idea that i'd rather have been in my early 20's in the sixties. i was in my 20's in the early 90's when all the aids hysteria was going around and tio be honest, i think it slowed me down a little (although it could have just been my inability to get the job done at times, who's to say). also, people had a better attitide about drugs bacjk then, not as many uptight people. also seemed to be less religion influenced politics, i.e., the do as i say, not as i do crowd, but i could be wrong about that. i mean, did they ever have a table where the likes of santorum,. bachmannia, rick perry, herman cain, and romney sat around it and theyw ere conwsidered presidential hopefuls rather than people watching a checkers game at a nuthouse or a scientific experiment? maybe, but it happened recently and it was a horror show.
i think the food was healthier back then and less genetically engineered garbage corrupting the food supply.
i bet it was cheaper to live in california back then and that's where the Church of ClubDirt headquarters really needs to be.
the wife gave me an ipad for my birthday two years ago. i have no use for it.
i do like the internet though and satellite tv and the soccer and being able to place a bet on my phone.
well, no time period is perfect brother club, but you make some good points. I would consider that too
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
Society is speeding on the HIghway to Hell IMO.
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
It's not impossible but this is a tough explanation to someone who I don't think is a believer. If every micron in his being repents, asks for forgiveness for being the monster that he apparently is, then who are you to deny the creator of heaven and earth to handle it His way? I'll try to take care of my own garden and leave the rest of it to Him.
The Bible states you will be judged as you judge. I just learned that fairly recently and I'm trying to remove myself from judging situations like this, it'll take care of itself, I'm quite confident.
No, I don't think you sit around waiting for me to post but that sentence -
"things are no worse now then they were centuries ago, I would say
they are better..."
is just plain unacceptable to me. You get out much? You see what
humanity is "progressing" into?
I've never seen so many lost souls in my life.
People gladly enslave themselves now.
No one else does it, they gladly mutiliate their own body. wtf?
Seen a punk today, couldn't of been 18 or 19, tats down both arms, clothes
looked like he should be a clown. I wouldn't consider employing him to
wash my car. Maybe he's the salt of the earth but I don't think so, I know
what that looks like and he ain't it.
What's he going to do for a living? Where's your priorities at Johnson?
Naturally, you guys would take that bait that I'm not allowed to judge a shitbag that clearly wants me to think he's a shitbag. This judging isn't even close to judging what people do that harm others. The kid insists on looking like a pirate, go for it. I get to call him on it though. That example was given for where society is going today, would love to see his parents (if there are any). I'm am allowed to have an opinion on someone that enslaves themself.
I love you guys, how about the 54M abortions. Nothing to say about that, but I get the big time-out because a kid that wants to look like a shitbag, accomplishes it and I call him on it.
No timeouts left.
Naturally, you guys would take that bait that I'm not allowed to judge a shitbag that clearly wants me to think he's a shitbag. This judging isn't even close to judging what people do that harm others. The kid insists on looking like a pirate, go for it. I get to call him on it though. That example was given for where society is going today, would love to see his parents (if there are any). I'm am allowed to have an opinion on someone that enslaves themself.
I love you guys, how about the 54M abortions. Nothing to say about that, but I get the big time-out because a kid that wants to look like a shitbag, accomplishes it and I call him on it.
In terms of who is going to go where, ie, Sandusky going to hell...No one knows. People throwing things at Sandusky, just remember.......
James 4:12
"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbour?"
Secondly....
James 2:10
"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it."
I know one thing,. God is perfect in his love and perfect in his justice.
Now lets turn the tables for a second. Under Atheism, what Sandusky has done is not objectively wrong, it is merely an opinion that he has done wrong but not absolutely wrong. This is no different to an opinion where one person finds Kim Kardashian more attractive than Kate Upton. That's all it is under atheism. Just one opinion over another. They aren't right or wrong, just like if I find Kate Upton more attractive than Kim Kardashian. I aint wrong, just a preference.
Also, under atheism, Sandusky is just a bag of chemicals like all of us. It just so happens to be that his chemicals in his body react in a different way to others due to external stimuli. Why is he to blame? It is just the cards evolution have dealt him. Not his fault, and to blame him for what he did as being wrong is contradictory to morality under atheism, which is subjective.
Its unfortunate that I have to use Sandusky as an example, but this example shows the double standards atheists have , the ones who have I had dialogue with. This proves their arguments have so many holes in it...
In terms of who is going to go where, ie, Sandusky going to hell...No one knows. People throwing things at Sandusky, just remember.......
James 4:12
"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbour?"
Secondly....
James 2:10
"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it."
I know one thing,. God is perfect in his love and perfect in his justice.
Now lets turn the tables for a second. Under Atheism, what Sandusky has done is not objectively wrong, it is merely an opinion that he has done wrong but not absolutely wrong. This is no different to an opinion where one person finds Kim Kardashian more attractive than Kate Upton. That's all it is under atheism. Just one opinion over another. They aren't right or wrong, just like if I find Kate Upton more attractive than Kim Kardashian. I aint wrong, just a preference.
Also, under atheism, Sandusky is just a bag of chemicals like all of us. It just so happens to be that his chemicals in his body react in a different way to others due to external stimuli. Why is he to blame? It is just the cards evolution have dealt him. Not his fault, and to blame him for what he did as being wrong is contradictory to morality under atheism, which is subjective.
Its unfortunate that I have to use Sandusky as an example, but this example shows the double standards atheists have , the ones who have I had dialogue with. This proves their arguments have so many holes in it...
Speaking of Sandusky and religion, let me ask you this: If Sandusky repents, confesses, and converts to Christianity, does he get to go to Heaven?
Conversely, does an average guy, like me, who has never done anything even remotely close to what Sandusky did and just lived an average life, yet isn't religious, go to hell?
There is no real clear indication either way.
Anyone suggesting that you are guaranteed to go to Heaven under any circumstance is engaging in a misrepresentation. It is never said or suggested that you will get into Heaven merely by repenting or confessing.
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Speaking of Sandusky and religion, let me ask you this: If Sandusky repents, confesses, and converts to Christianity, does he get to go to Heaven?
Conversely, does an average guy, like me, who has never done anything even remotely close to what Sandusky did and just lived an average life, yet isn't religious, go to hell?
There is no real clear indication either way.
Anyone suggesting that you are guaranteed to go to Heaven under any circumstance is engaging in a misrepresentation. It is never said or suggested that you will get into Heaven merely by repenting or confessing.
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