After El Chapo will the government ever get serious about war on drugs

You're going to have to show me these stats that you say "overwhelmingly" show the resources are spent going after dealers when the stats posted in this thread from the FBI showed that 82% of drug arrests are possession cases.

With about half of those arrests being marijuana possession.

You don't seriously think the DEA is tracking down your next door neighbor for smoking weed?

When was the last time you saw a DEA task force take down a fellow for having pot to smoke.  They are not wasting time or money doing his.  They could care less about him. Trust me.  This is common sense. 

the DEA is a tiny part of the money and resources spent on the war on drugs.  if you want to discuss who is spending time, money and resources on the war on drugs, you'd focus on the thousands of police departments around the country that make the overwhelming majority of drug arrests. 

if it was just the DEA involved, we wouldn't have this ridiculously liberal waste of money, time, resources and infrastructure.

my mind is made up because i know how the system works.  but if you have these numbers, you can start by supporting your argument and responding to my request for stats in post 76. 

Also to show even the Liberal BHO is spending more on it:

Huh?  Of course the 'thousands of local police depts' make more arrests.  There are more of them. But most of the local depts are chasing small time or just happening upon users. They are not tracking down users. 

It's funny how entrenched some people are that their "war" right. My theory Is has more to do with who started it and then politics than the efficacy. Especially when the discussion becomes around numbers and reality

of course he is. liberal, big government programs snowball. 

i guess him saying he's going to spend all that money to target producers and dealers sounds better than spending billions to arrest possessors at an 82% rate.  what a novel idea.

let us know how this groundbreaking plan works out when the next round of drug arrests numbers come out. 


as to your post 83, i'm not sure what you're talking about for most of it but as to your last question, i do have a solution.  and i've stated it at least once already.  here it is again.

1. legalize marijuana.

2. get rid of mandatory minimum sentences for drug cases

3. stop spending so much time, money and resources on possession cases. 

4. for the possession cases that are made, send them to treatment rather than jail and don't give them criminal convictions just for possession.

that would be a start

Ok. Those are fine. 

Please don't pretend to not comprehend the post.  It is fairly straight forward as I have said it more than once and more than one way. 

i know i say this a lot, but i have no idea what you are talking about with this question.  what specific question do you have for me now?



also, i have no idea how you define left and right, liberal and conservative, but i guess that's another matter.

You say legalize marijuana and and stop mandatory sentencing and stop charging users. And send users to rehab (whether they want it or not?)

oh, i see the misunderstanding.

my alternatives apply to all illegal drugs with the exception of #1.  i would only legalize marijuana. 

According to the National Institute On Drug Abuse marijuana as a "gateway drug." However, most people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, "harder" substances...   Most not all...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-el-chapo-jailbreak-mexico-20150717-story.html

Here it comes today. Seven people arrested either guards or jail employees they did not specify helping him escape.  You knew it was coming.  More government workers.  If they aren't going to enforce the laws why don't they just legalize it.  We might as well just let everyone do what they want. 

It's funny to me though you guys say drug charges are non violent stuff.  That new york guy killed a sheriff that's violence.  The guy that got off on cocaine charges killed a cop Omaha. 

It reminds me of stuff like this.  https://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/09/feds-slain-dallas-man-had-900000-stashed-in-safes-28-million-in-narcotics-sales-recorded-on-detailed-ledgers.html/

A guy selling drugs gets shot and killed by a guy that watches people working for drug cartels and robs them.  So what happens to the guy that robbed him someone shot and killed him to.  Drugs are insanely dumb.  All they lead to is robberies, murders, and corruption.

You don't see someone say well that guy robbed that house because he drank a pepsi.  Or that guy robbed that church because he just smoked a pall mall, or because he just robbed a 7/11 because he was up on orange juice.  Drugs lead to violence. 

You don't see little Timmy go rob a burger king employee because he has 900,000 dollars of cash in a safe at his home.  If they aren't going to enforce the laws then I just say legalize it because what they have going now is honestly a joke.  Karma will catch you sooner or later whether it's now or 20 years down the road.

What I love about this situation is our infatuation with millions of people coming from this country to bring their corruption with them. The Mexican government is corrupt to it's core, you think when they large numbers get here that it won't be corrupt?

No