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    Steve stevens

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    BIGSUB7
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2014 - 2:31 PM ET #1

    What a fraud this guy is. On the 1st episode his client loses 20k on Miami -9 vs unc BUT then the next day he plays 60k to win on Seattle -6.5 vs Arizona . Funny thing is they played the same day and there's no way he could of got the game in. What a clown
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    What a fraud this guy is. On the 1st episode his client loses 20k on Miami -9 vs unc BUT then the next day he plays 60k to win on Seattle -6.5 vs Arizona . Funny thing is they played the same day and there's no way he could of got the game in. What a clown
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2014 - 7:42 PM ET #2

    https://www.businessinsider.com/cnbc-betting-show-star-fraud-2013-7
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2014 - 2:23 AM ET #3

    him and his father are hilarious...
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    him and his father are hilarious...
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2014 - 8:07 PM ET #4

    Other fraudulent or shady things:

    1) All of their ATS picks are favorites, usually big chalk. His arguments for why he likes a big favorite is usually of the "they're way better" variety, ignoring the fact that that's why the spread is so large to begin with.

    2) They change their attitude on if they should bet the same amount each game or double up after a loss depending on how secure they are that the client will stay a client, or how much time is left in their Las Vegas stay.

    3) We almost never see Stevens study stats, and he rarely watches games. We see him deal with his employees and family so much - where does he find the time? He doesn't.

    4) They usually buy the hook, even when it's awful value. Paying 10 cents to make it -8.5 instead of -9 in a NFL game - what a waste of money!

    5) When they do buy the hook, it's not reflected when the bet and amount wagered is written on the screen. For example, when a client is betting 20K but buying the hook, it's written on screen as $22,000 to win $20,000, when it should read $24,000 to win $20,000.

    6) He's been roughly a coin flip in his picks.

    7) He says that without new clients his business can't survive. This implies that his picks aren't good enough to bet himself, and that his old clients are always leaving.

    It seems like he makes picks on gut and hits roughly half. When they lose, he breaks even. When they win, he gets a whopping 50% of profit. It's a nice scam that requires zero skill in picking games to thrive.

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    Other fraudulent or shady things:

    1) All of their ATS picks are favorites, usually big chalk. His arguments for why he likes a big favorite is usually of the "they're way better" variety, ignoring the fact that that's why the spread is so large to begin with.

    2) They change their attitude on if they should bet the same amount each game or double up after a loss depending on how secure they are that the client will stay a client, or how much time is left in their Las Vegas stay.

    3) We almost never see Stevens study stats, and he rarely watches games. We see him deal with his employees and family so much - where does he find the time? He doesn't.

    4) They usually buy the hook, even when it's awful value. Paying 10 cents to make it -8.5 instead of -9 in a NFL game - what a waste of money!

    5) When they do buy the hook, it's not reflected when the bet and amount wagered is written on the screen. For example, when a client is betting 20K but buying the hook, it's written on screen as $22,000 to win $20,000, when it should read $24,000 to win $20,000.

    6) He's been roughly a coin flip in his picks.

    7) He says that without new clients his business can't survive. This implies that his picks aren't good enough to bet himself, and that his old clients are always leaving.

    It seems like he makes picks on gut and hits roughly half. When they lose, he breaks even. When they win, he gets a whopping 50% of profit. It's a nice scam that requires zero skill in picking games to thrive.

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