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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:00 PM ET #1

    I went to cash a money order from an online account. One cashed, the next was called counterfeit and held. I am going to be contacted now, and I am unsure what to do. I am hoping it is a mistake by the second Post Office, but also concerned about the site. I do not want to post all the details on here now, but does anyone know a site/way I could research and determine if the Money Order is legit?

    It came today, and was dated April 8th 2009....The Postmaster said that this was the  first major concern, and basically treated me like a con artist.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I went to cash a money order from an online account. One cashed, the next was called counterfeit and held. I am going to be contacted now, and I am unsure what to do. I am hoping it is a mistake by the second Post Office, but also concerned about the site. I do not want to post all the details on here now, but does anyone know a site/way I could research and determine if the Money Order is legit?

    It came today, and was dated April 8th 2009....The Postmaster said that this was the  first major concern, and basically treated me like a con artist.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:04 PM ET #2

    PM me about this please.  I sent you a friend request.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    PM me about this please.  I sent you a friend request.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:13 PM ET #3

    Man, that's really disappointing.  I know you don't want to start a scandal, but I think you should share the site with everyone.  I don't think that is crossing the line.

    If it were me, and it were more than a few hundred dollars, I would go ahead and go in and talk to him.  I would say I work with a website that is outside the united states and they sent me this as payment.  If they really press you, say you do web development work and this is payment or a commission for something.
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    Man, that's really disappointing.  I know you don't want to start a scandal, but I think you should share the site with everyone.  I don't think that is crossing the line.

    If it were me, and it were more than a few hundred dollars, I would go ahead and go in and talk to him.  I would say I work with a website that is outside the united states and they sent me this as payment.  If they really press you, say you do web development work and this is payment or a commission for something.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:18 PM ET #4

    VanZack- Message sent, thanks for contacting me

    Kdawg-It was over a few thousand. I have contacted the site, and I assume and hope that they will fix this situation
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    VanZack- Message sent, thanks for contacting me

    Kdawg-It was over a few thousand. I have contacted the site, and I assume and hope that they will fix this situation
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:42 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by MustRisk2Win:

    VanZack- Message sent, thanks for contacting me

    Kdawg-It was over a few thousand. I have contacted the site, and I assume and hope that they will fix this situation

    Keep us updated and best of luck. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustRisk2Win:

    VanZack- Message sent, thanks for contacting me

    Kdawg-It was over a few thousand. I have contacted the site, and I assume and hope that they will fix this situation

    Keep us updated and best of luck. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:46 PM ET #6

    btw, how could that online book sent you a money order dated way back to early 2009? 
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    btw, how could that online book sent you a money order dated way back to early 2009? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 6:57 PM ET #7

    Yeah i was lost there myself,  that is 3 years ago, and why are they sending money orders?  I have heard of checks, wu, mg, instadebit, netteller, moneybookers and all that mess and have gotten most but i have never ever received a money order from any book?
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    Yeah i was lost there myself,  that is 3 years ago, and why are they sending money orders?  I have heard of checks, wu, mg, instadebit, netteller, moneybookers and all that mess and have gotten most but i have never ever received a money order from any book?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 7:06 PM ET #8

    Thanks guys, I am unsure why it was dated so old. I cashed one similar around a month ago, so I never thought twice of it.  Looking back, it was probably stupid of me to not contact the site on. There was 5 money orders sent. I cashed one, had the 1 held, and have 3 more. I contacted the site, and I do not intend or feel comfortable trying to cash any of the remaining 3
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    Thanks guys, I am unsure why it was dated so old. I cashed one similar around a month ago, so I never thought twice of it.  Looking back, it was probably stupid of me to not contact the site on. There was 5 money orders sent. I cashed one, had the 1 held, and have 3 more. I contacted the site, and I do not intend or feel comfortable trying to cash any of the remaining 3
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #9

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    Sent PM
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 7:16 PM ET #10

    Thanks Van, I an going to relax and eat quick. I appreciate your help I wrote a quick reply with additional info. I can send a complete picture of the money order later tonight.  Thanks!!
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    Thanks Van, I an going to relax and eat quick. I appreciate your help I wrote a quick reply with additional info. I can send a complete picture of the money order later tonight.  Thanks!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 9:25 PM ET #11

    what  site did they come from
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    what  site did they come from
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2012 - 11:07 PM ET #12

    The post office code on the Money Order is 347871...Does that mean that it came from Area Code 34787...which would be

    WINTER GARDEN,FL, ZIP Code 34787


    I am trying to figure out ahead of time what I could say when I go back to the Local Post Office (New York). The woman working said "it did not show up in the county records" and also wanted me to know where it was from. I am thinking if I  call USPS, or the Winter Garden office specifically, that hopefully I can get more information


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    The post office code on the Money Order is 347871...Does that mean that it came from Area Code 34787...which would be

    WINTER GARDEN,FL, ZIP Code 34787


    I am trying to figure out ahead of time what I could say when I go back to the Local Post Office (New York). The woman working said "it did not show up in the county records" and also wanted me to know where it was from. I am thinking if I  call USPS, or the Winter Garden office specifically, that hopefully I can get more information


     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 1:22 PM ET #13

    Yes - the first 5 digits on the MO are the zip, and the 6th is the specific post office in that zip if there are more than 1.

    Any update on this?

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    Yes - the first 5 digits on the MO are the zip, and the 6th is the specific post office in that zip if there are more than 1.

    Any update on this?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 1:31 PM ET #14

    I have been paid with money orders from books before. I believe I know who yours may have come from and I really hope it is just a matter of it's age making it tough to verify and being suspicious. 
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    I have been paid with money orders from books before. I believe I know who yours may have come from and I really hope it is just a matter of it's age making it tough to verify and being suspicious. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 1:44 PM ET #15

    I'm not saying no books pay in money orders because i have no idea,  just know that i have never been paid by them or as it even as a option that i recall.  I hope it all works out for you man.
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    I'm not saying no books pay in money orders because i have no idea,  just know that i have never been paid by them or as it even as a option that i recall.  I hope it all works out for you man.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 1:46 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHERNATION12:

    I have been paid with money orders from books before. I believe I know who yours may have come from and I really hope it is just a matter of it's age making it tough to verify and being suspicious. 

    Im pretty sure this is the case.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHERNATION12:

    I have been paid with money orders from books before. I believe I know who yours may have come from and I really hope it is just a matter of it's age making it tough to verify and being suspicious. 

    Im pretty sure this is the case.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 4:34 PM ET #17

    Just got home from work. Update: (I am going to just use real #s, because fake ones confuse me and everyone else)

    5 payout Money Order all dated 2009 I received were for:
    530, 615, 616, 818, 819

    After talking to the site, who has been great to me for years, I definitely believe that they are 100% legit.

    update on each money order:
    530-cashed today at local post office, no problem
    615-cashed yesterday at local post office, no problem
    616-I have (with #s stamped on the back, I will explain in a minute)
    818-I have (with #s stamped on the back, I will explain in a minute)
    819-confescated (sp?) as fake yesterday at post office 10 miles from here. The cash drawer here was not enough, so I was recommended to go to the post office there. One question asked was "what is 253 printed on the back?" my response "I have no idea to be honest"

    After trying to deposit today, I was again told no, and the #'s on the back were explained to me at Pathfinder, my local bank. 253 is the teller # that was going to deposit my check, prior to seeing the 2009 date and deciding not to. Also stating/noting that the just having one seemingly random company name for a sender was very suspicious for a 3 year old money order.

    Upon keeping #819 and accusing me of fraud, one main point from the post worker was the 253 printed on the back that I could not account for. I now know that the # was printed by my bank, prior to deciding not to deposit them for me.

    Thoughts going through my mind now:
    Thankfully I have gotten over 1100 of them in cash, and only deposited 450

    The 3 that have Pathfinder Bank logos on the back, I hope does not stop me from cashing the others. About 5% of my mind worries that somehow after seeing the other dates etc. and now these issues, the post office worker who has cashed them each day will feel I am somehow fucking over the system or screwing with him.

    And all of me wishes I never tried to deposit them in the  first place. What a mess 2 down, 3 to go.


    On a side note....The 2 that already were paid to me in cash. I wonder how long those will take to clear and somehow be documented as "legit" with a record, so that I could use those as proof that all 5 are real


    Thanks for the advice and help guys, I appreciate it
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    Just got home from work. Update: (I am going to just use real #s, because fake ones confuse me and everyone else)

    5 payout Money Order all dated 2009 I received were for:
    530, 615, 616, 818, 819

    After talking to the site, who has been great to me for years, I definitely believe that they are 100% legit.

    update on each money order:
    530-cashed today at local post office, no problem
    615-cashed yesterday at local post office, no problem
    616-I have (with #s stamped on the back, I will explain in a minute)
    818-I have (with #s stamped on the back, I will explain in a minute)
    819-confescated (sp?) as fake yesterday at post office 10 miles from here. The cash drawer here was not enough, so I was recommended to go to the post office there. One question asked was "what is 253 printed on the back?" my response "I have no idea to be honest"

    After trying to deposit today, I was again told no, and the #'s on the back were explained to me at Pathfinder, my local bank. 253 is the teller # that was going to deposit my check, prior to seeing the 2009 date and deciding not to. Also stating/noting that the just having one seemingly random company name for a sender was very suspicious for a 3 year old money order.

    Upon keeping #819 and accusing me of fraud, one main point from the post worker was the 253 printed on the back that I could not account for. I now know that the # was printed by my bank, prior to deciding not to deposit them for me.

    Thoughts going through my mind now:
    Thankfully I have gotten over 1100 of them in cash, and only deposited 450

    The 3 that have Pathfinder Bank logos on the back, I hope does not stop me from cashing the others. About 5% of my mind worries that somehow after seeing the other dates etc. and now these issues, the post office worker who has cashed them each day will feel I am somehow fucking over the system or screwing with him.

    And all of me wishes I never tried to deposit them in the  first place. What a mess 2 down, 3 to go.


    On a side note....The 2 that already were paid to me in cash. I wonder how long those will take to clear and somehow be documented as "legit" with a record, so that I could use those as proof that all 5 are real


    Thanks for the advice and help guys, I appreciate it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 4:47 PM ET #18

    Jeesh.

    I would call the PO and be pissed.  Why are they holding your money?

    Then I would go to your bank and be pissed.  Why wont they cash them?  PO money orders never expire.

    I would certainly take the 2 back that they stamped and tell them you are now fucked and that they need to deposit them.

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    Jeesh.

    I would call the PO and be pissed.  Why are they holding your money?

    Then I would go to your bank and be pissed.  Why wont they cash them?  PO money orders never expire.

    I would certainly take the 2 back that they stamped and tell them you are now fucked and that they need to deposit them.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 4:50 PM ET #19

    BTW - a MO has to be endorsed like any other check.  If you do not endorse it, your bank has a stamp that they endorse it with.

    I am near certain that this is the stamp on the back of your MO.  And I am also near certain that your PO thought you were trying to cash a MO that was already cashed years ago (because of the date).

    Once they realize that it has never been cashe - and you explain that the dummies at your bank stamped it but wouldnt deposit it - you will get your money from the PO.

    But I would still go down to your bank and demand they make it right - because an endorsed MO by your bank can only be reconciled by your bank.  Tell them this really fucked you up - and be aggessive and pissed.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    BTW - a MO has to be endorsed like any other check.  If you do not endorse it, your bank has a stamp that they endorse it with.

    I am near certain that this is the stamp on the back of your MO.  And I am also near certain that your PO thought you were trying to cash a MO that was already cashed years ago (because of the date).

    Once they realize that it has never been cashe - and you explain that the dummies at your bank stamped it but wouldnt deposit it - you will get your money from the PO.

    But I would still go down to your bank and demand they make it right - because an endorsed MO by your bank can only be reconciled by your bank.  Tell them this really fucked you up - and be aggessive and pissed.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #20

    It all seems clear now.

    The PO thinks you came across some old MO's, that were cashed at Pathmark years ago - and you are trying to "double cash" them.

    They should already know that it has never been cashed.

    But your bank are morons.  You need to go there and tell them.  And not nicely.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    It all seems clear now.

    The PO thinks you came across some old MO's, that were cashed at Pathmark years ago - and you are trying to "double cash" them.

    They should already know that it has never been cashed.

    But your bank are morons.  You need to go there and tell them.  And not nicely.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #21

    i agree with you vanzack on what happened,  why is it that people that work at banks and post offices think they know everything and are keyholders of the world or something lol  I just don't get it.
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    i agree with you vanzack on what happened,  why is it that people that work at banks and post offices think they know everything and are keyholders of the world or something lol  I just don't get it.
     
    MAC316
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 5:38 PM ET #22

    Just another example of far too many dumbasses in the world,  everywhere you turn it seems! 
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    Just another example of far too many dumbasses in the world,  everywhere you turn it seems! 
     
    josbran
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 5:51 PM ET #23

    Trying to cash a three year old money order is shear lunacy!!
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    Trying to cash a three year old money order is shear lunacy!!
     
    MustRisk2Win
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 5:54 PM ET #24

    That does make sense. I will be attempting to cash a 3rd 2009 money order tomorrow at the local post office. They do look kind of sketchy with only 1 word written for the sender. I am hopeful that this all works out.

    As for the woman who acted like superwoman for catching me, I will contact her last. I want to have all my situations/people lined up before I contact them. She was a huge bitch to me from the start, and I have no patience left to talk 2 her
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    That does make sense. I will be attempting to cash a 3rd 2009 money order tomorrow at the local post office. They do look kind of sketchy with only 1 word written for the sender. I am hopeful that this all works out.

    As for the woman who acted like superwoman for catching me, I will contact her last. I want to have all my situations/people lined up before I contact them. She was a huge bitch to me from the start, and I have no patience left to talk 2 her
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 6:04 PM ET #25

    if i remember correctly, usps money orders expire after 180 days.

     

    three years?

    if you were incarcerated you couldve had someone deposit these for you.

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    if i remember correctly, usps money orders expire after 180 days.

     

    three years?

    if you were incarcerated you couldve had someone deposit these for you.

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