As a whole , trying to gamble and win on-line is one BIG JOKE ! I've tried since 1998 and have gotten paid ZERO TIMES . The Free No-Deposit bonuses offered by on-line gaming sites is ONE BIG SCAM . They all come along with RIDICULOUS CASH-OUT OPTIONS , and when you DO FOLLOW the Requirements needed to cash-out , you never get paid . I have given up on gambling my own money in on-line casinos , and prefer regular land-based casinos 100 % . At least there , you get your money as soon as you win . There are no casinos in Ohio , but I'd rather travel more than 100 miles to one than to throw my money away on-line.
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As a whole , trying to gamble and win on-line is one BIG JOKE ! I've tried since 1998 and have gotten paid ZERO TIMES . The Free No-Deposit bonuses offered by on-line gaming sites is ONE BIG SCAM . They all come along with RIDICULOUS CASH-OUT OPTIONS , and when you DO FOLLOW the Requirements needed to cash-out , you never get paid . I have given up on gambling my own money in on-line casinos , and prefer regular land-based casinos 100 % . At least there , you get your money as soon as you win . There are no casinos in Ohio , but I'd rather travel more than 100 miles to one than to throw my money away on-line.
So you used one of these shady books offering you hundreds of free dollars and high bonus etc etc etc .... well thats what happen. Use only top notch books and you would not be saying this.
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So you used one of these shady books offering you hundreds of free dollars and high bonus etc etc etc .... well thats what happen. Use only top notch books and you would not be saying this.
I have been playing on-line since there has been playing on line. I understand how you feel, and back when a rookie, I made the mistakes of looking for big bonuses, and all of the bells and whistles. I lost alot of money in those days but it was a learning experience I hope I can share to save others the same pain.
1. Don't play at on-line casinos period. I realize many may be legit, but why wade through a bunch of fixed programs to find a good one. I won't even play at the casinos of some of the books that are A+ and I wager on sports at.
2. You don't need bonuses. If a book is willing to pay your fee for transfering money to them be happy with that. Think about it,, why does a book offer 25, 50, and even 100% bonuses? Simple to generate post up money. Why do they need the post up money? Because they are flat on there ass and need it to pay current winners if they even do that, but usally it is so tough to get money out of them that their game is eventually you will give in play until you lose it.
3, The books promoted by Covers, SBR, EOG are only promoted because they pay these sites to advertise. Yes there are times when the owners of these sites step in and help a player collect but with a solid book there should never be a need to have someone help you collect.
4. Trust your fellow brothers and sisters that have experienced the world of good and bad books and listen closely to what they say. If you do, more than likely your wagering experience on-line will be hassle free.
* With all of this said BOS still ha my 16K that I'll never see. Their trustee is talking if we're lucky pennies on the dollar. This is one big reason I only play certain places now and follow off-shore news regularly for info that might tip me off to an issue.
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Zippo
I have been playing on-line since there has been playing on line. I understand how you feel, and back when a rookie, I made the mistakes of looking for big bonuses, and all of the bells and whistles. I lost alot of money in those days but it was a learning experience I hope I can share to save others the same pain.
1. Don't play at on-line casinos period. I realize many may be legit, but why wade through a bunch of fixed programs to find a good one. I won't even play at the casinos of some of the books that are A+ and I wager on sports at.
2. You don't need bonuses. If a book is willing to pay your fee for transfering money to them be happy with that. Think about it,, why does a book offer 25, 50, and even 100% bonuses? Simple to generate post up money. Why do they need the post up money? Because they are flat on there ass and need it to pay current winners if they even do that, but usally it is so tough to get money out of them that their game is eventually you will give in play until you lose it.
3, The books promoted by Covers, SBR, EOG are only promoted because they pay these sites to advertise. Yes there are times when the owners of these sites step in and help a player collect but with a solid book there should never be a need to have someone help you collect.
4. Trust your fellow brothers and sisters that have experienced the world of good and bad books and listen closely to what they say. If you do, more than likely your wagering experience on-line will be hassle free.
* With all of this said BOS still ha my 16K that I'll never see. Their trustee is talking if we're lucky pennies on the dollar. This is one big reason I only play certain places now and follow off-shore news regularly for info that might tip me off to an issue.
I have been playing on-line since there has been playing on line. I understand how you feel, and back when a rookie, I made the mistakes of looking for big bonuses, and all of the bells and whistles. I lost alot of money in those days but it was a learning experience I hope I can share to save others the same pain.
1. Don't play at on-line casinos period. I realize many may be legit, but why wade through a bunch of fixed programs to find a good one. I won't even play at the casinos of some of the books that are A+ and I wager on sports at.
2. You don't need bonuses. If a book is willing to pay your fee for transfering money to them be happy with that. Think about it,, why does a book offer 25, 50, and even 100% bonuses? Simple to generate post up money. Why do they need the post up money? Because they are flat on there ass and need it to pay current winners if they even do that, but usally it is so tough to get money out of them that their game is eventually you will give in play until you lose it.
3, The books promoted by Covers, SBR, EOG are only promoted because they pay these sites to advertise. Yes there are times when the owners of these sites step in and help a player collect but with a solid book there should never be a need to have someone help you collect.
4. Trust your fellow brothers and sisters that have experienced the world of good and bad books and listen closely to what they say. If you do, more than likely your wagering experience on-line will be hassle free.
* With all of this said BOS still ha my 16K that I'll never see. Their trustee is talking if we're lucky pennies on the dollar. This is one big reason I only play certain places now and follow off-shore news regularly for info that might tip me off to an issue.
I agree with everyhing you say, especially the point about the recommened books promoted from the web sites.
I have started using some books such as Carib, and I find them better than the recommened books.
I am not touting them at all, but throwing out their name to make an example.
By the way who is BOS?
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Quote Originally Posted by Bondjamesbond:
Zippo
I have been playing on-line since there has been playing on line. I understand how you feel, and back when a rookie, I made the mistakes of looking for big bonuses, and all of the bells and whistles. I lost alot of money in those days but it was a learning experience I hope I can share to save others the same pain.
1. Don't play at on-line casinos period. I realize many may be legit, but why wade through a bunch of fixed programs to find a good one. I won't even play at the casinos of some of the books that are A+ and I wager on sports at.
2. You don't need bonuses. If a book is willing to pay your fee for transfering money to them be happy with that. Think about it,, why does a book offer 25, 50, and even 100% bonuses? Simple to generate post up money. Why do they need the post up money? Because they are flat on there ass and need it to pay current winners if they even do that, but usally it is so tough to get money out of them that their game is eventually you will give in play until you lose it.
3, The books promoted by Covers, SBR, EOG are only promoted because they pay these sites to advertise. Yes there are times when the owners of these sites step in and help a player collect but with a solid book there should never be a need to have someone help you collect.
4. Trust your fellow brothers and sisters that have experienced the world of good and bad books and listen closely to what they say. If you do, more than likely your wagering experience on-line will be hassle free.
* With all of this said BOS still ha my 16K that I'll never see. Their trustee is talking if we're lucky pennies on the dollar. This is one big reason I only play certain places now and follow off-shore news regularly for info that might tip me off to an issue.
I agree with everyhing you say, especially the point about the recommened books promoted from the web sites.
I have started using some books such as Carib, and I find them better than the recommened books.
I am not touting them at all, but throwing out their name to make an example.
BOS is or I should say Bet on Sports they folded about 3 years ago when their CEO was arrested while having a lay over in the US, Texas I believe. They prosecuted him out of the St Louis US attorneys office. One day I have my money there and was wagering, the next I was told they couldn't take any wagers that day which turned into weeks which turned into liquidation of the company and all of its subsidarary books. I still get emails from the company handling it but basically saying I'll get nothing.
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BOS is or I should say Bet on Sports they folded about 3 years ago when their CEO was arrested while having a lay over in the US, Texas I believe. They prosecuted him out of the St Louis US attorneys office. One day I have my money there and was wagering, the next I was told they couldn't take any wagers that day which turned into weeks which turned into liquidation of the company and all of its subsidarary books. I still get emails from the company handling it but basically saying I'll get nothing.
I should also mention I use 2 locals as well for outs. I know Joanne12 is completely against them, but if you have one well recommended, and start small you will find out how reliable they are and go from there.
But definately need accounts at 2-3 solid books.
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Rockdog, you take a hit also?
I should also mention I use 2 locals as well for outs. I know Joanne12 is completely against them, but if you have one well recommended, and start small you will find out how reliable they are and go from there.
When you play in a casino in vegas or atlantic city, your playing blackjack or what ever your game is...for what 5or6 hours at a pop? Most of us have access to our computers 24 hours a day. Your going to lose. Eventually the house will win. Just like if we played at atlantic city everyday we would lose everything!!!! Just something to think about. Don't abuse it, keep it a part time hobby and you'll be ok.;) I love BJ!!!! Great fing book!!! Good luck all.
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When you play in a casino in vegas or atlantic city, your playing blackjack or what ever your game is...for what 5or6 hours at a pop? Most of us have access to our computers 24 hours a day. Your going to lose. Eventually the house will win. Just like if we played at atlantic city everyday we would lose everything!!!! Just something to think about. Don't abuse it, keep it a part time hobby and you'll be ok.;) I love BJ!!!! Great fing book!!! Good luck all.
Diamond and VIP are also two books that I have never had a problem with once the initial "send me a copy, et cetera". People tend to forget that they need to protect themselves as well.
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Diamond and VIP are also two books that I have never had a problem with once the initial "send me a copy, et cetera". People tend to forget that they need to protect themselves as well.
I was using Bodog, but will no longer use them after it took them 3 months to send me my payout. I'm glad they did make good, but they were having lots of problems last year just before football season. I have no idea if they've corrected their problems or not.
Since then I've been using sportsbetting.com. I highly recommend them. I've never had a problem, and i've been using them for 8 months now.
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I was using Bodog, but will no longer use them after it took them 3 months to send me my payout. I'm glad they did make good, but they were having lots of problems last year just before football season. I have no idea if they've corrected their problems or not.
Since then I've been using sportsbetting.com. I highly recommend them. I've never had a problem, and i've been using them for 8 months now.
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