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    slikstiks99
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:36 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    My question is how many sites were seized when Bush was in office? The answer is none. It's the Obama justice Dept doing all this bullshit. Sure the UIGEA was passed under Bush admin but lots of the so called liberal Dems voted for it so guess they should take some heat also. But Barbarossa is that typical Dem lover that blames everything on Bush. Remember the Obama justice dept. can ignore the law if they want to but they don't so i guess Bush must be pushing them to do it.....HA HA. So the question is why are they doing it. Remember if they seize the assets of those sites it goes into the USA treasury. Guess Obama gets his wish to tax the rich even though they don't reside in the USA. 


    Blame goes to the snakes that snuck it into a bill. That would be Republicans trying to force some crooked idea of "values" on the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josbran:

    My question is how many sites were seized when Bush was in office? The answer is none. It's the Obama justice Dept doing all this bullshit. Sure the UIGEA was passed under Bush admin but lots of the so called liberal Dems voted for it so guess they should take some heat also. But Barbarossa is that typical Dem lover that blames everything on Bush. Remember the Obama justice dept. can ignore the law if they want to but they don't so i guess Bush must be pushing them to do it.....HA HA. So the question is why are they doing it. Remember if they seize the assets of those sites it goes into the USA treasury. Guess Obama gets his wish to tax the rich even though they don't reside in the USA. 


    Blame goes to the snakes that snuck it into a bill. That would be Republicans trying to force some crooked idea of "values" on the nation.
     
    joanne12
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2012 - 9:47 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:



    Blame goes to the snakes that snuck it into a bill. That would be Republicans trying to force some crooked idea of "values" on the nation.
    republicans started all this son,but libtards like you continue to ignore the fact that the dems have made everything much much worse,offshore is dead now,stop drinking the kool aid and quit looking for a handout like all you left wing scumbags do
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    Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:



    Blame goes to the snakes that snuck it into a bill. That would be Republicans trying to force some crooked idea of "values" on the nation.
    republicans started all this son,but libtards like you continue to ignore the fact that the dems have made everything much much worse,offshore is dead now,stop drinking the kool aid and quit looking for a handout like all you left wing scumbags do
     
    PaulKersey
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 7:44 AM ET #28

    FIRST OF ALL...before you waste time reading 200 rants against Calvin Ayre, remember this is only about another carefully planned U.S. DOJ message against the "illegal U.S. offshore industry" and it's biggest name. How the "Al Capone" of the Offshore industry gave the finger to the Feds for so many years. Unless you have $$ in a BoDog/Bovada account, nobody would really care whether it was Calvin Ayre or Calvin Klein being indicted.

    Albert Einstein once said: " Insanity is doing the same thing over & over again expecting different results."

    POINT: Until the U.S. passes legislation to LEGALIZE AND REGULATE ONLINE WAGERING your money always has and always will be at huge risk. The smart thing is evaluating where is the least possible risk and who are the most reliable offshore books under current conditions. But NO guarantees whatsoever! 

    And for you "LOCALS" guys..don't think a local Calvin can't stiff you forever anytime as well.

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    FIRST OF ALL...before you waste time reading 200 rants against Calvin Ayre, remember this is only about another carefully planned U.S. DOJ message against the "illegal U.S. offshore industry" and it's biggest name. How the "Al Capone" of the Offshore industry gave the finger to the Feds for so many years. Unless you have $$ in a BoDog/Bovada account, nobody would really care whether it was Calvin Ayre or Calvin Klein being indicted.

    Albert Einstein once said: " Insanity is doing the same thing over & over again expecting different results."

    POINT: Until the U.S. passes legislation to LEGALIZE AND REGULATE ONLINE WAGERING your money always has and always will be at huge risk. The smart thing is evaluating where is the least possible risk and who are the most reliable offshore books under current conditions. But NO guarantees whatsoever! 

    And for you "LOCALS" guys..don't think a local Calvin can't stiff you forever anytime as well.

     
    BillyO
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 10:23 AM ET #29

    Calvin brought this all on to himself & the industry - his ego is so big he had to place himself on all the key media outlets - where as other books owners stay behind the scenes & simply offer a good product & service to the average sports bettor.

    With no Calvin in the industry - most of this would not have happened - also keep in mind Calvin was caught smuggling drugs into Canada & sold out his family to keep out of jail - and is banned from being a Director of any company in BC as he was caught manipulating stock prices.

    Any player who leaves $$ in Bovada is crazy - they are closing in on this brand as well.

    Still lots of good options for sports bettors to deal with - and those books are waiting for all the ex bodog/bovada players to join there service.
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    Calvin brought this all on to himself & the industry - his ego is so big he had to place himself on all the key media outlets - where as other books owners stay behind the scenes & simply offer a good product & service to the average sports bettor.

    With no Calvin in the industry - most of this would not have happened - also keep in mind Calvin was caught smuggling drugs into Canada & sold out his family to keep out of jail - and is banned from being a Director of any company in BC as he was caught manipulating stock prices.

    Any player who leaves $$ in Bovada is crazy - they are closing in on this brand as well.

    Still lots of good options for sports bettors to deal with - and those books are waiting for all the ex bodog/bovada players to join there service.
     
    rarafromphilly
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 12:28 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Lock_City:


    That's why you gotta find a local
    why do you dudes always pipe up these locals?nothing is more convienient then online betting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Lock_City:


    That's why you gotta find a local
    why do you dudes always pipe up these locals?nothing is more convienient then online betting.
     
    PaddyMacR
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 5:43 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyO:

    Calvin brought this all on to himself & the industry - his ego is so big he had to place himself on all the key media outlets - where as other books owners stay behind the scenes & simply offer a good product & service to the average sports bettor.

    With no Calvin in the industry - most of this would not have happened - also keep in mind Calvin was caught smuggling drugs into Canada & sold out his family to keep out of jail - and is banned from being a Director of any company in BC as he was caught manipulating stock prices.

    Any player who leaves $$ in Bovada is crazy - they are closing in on this brand as well.

    Still lots of good options for sports bettors to deal with - and those books are waiting for all the ex bodog/bovada players to join there service.

    Small correction there Billy.

    Calvin was not caught smuggling drugs into Canada. That was me. Nobody sold anybody else out, and particularly not Calvin.

    Other than that, bang on, especially the bit about having money in Bovada. Playing pin the tail on the donkey on the freeway is safer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyO:

    Calvin brought this all on to himself & the industry - his ego is so big he had to place himself on all the key media outlets - where as other books owners stay behind the scenes & simply offer a good product & service to the average sports bettor.

    With no Calvin in the industry - most of this would not have happened - also keep in mind Calvin was caught smuggling drugs into Canada & sold out his family to keep out of jail - and is banned from being a Director of any company in BC as he was caught manipulating stock prices.

    Any player who leaves $$ in Bovada is crazy - they are closing in on this brand as well.

    Still lots of good options for sports bettors to deal with - and those books are waiting for all the ex bodog/bovada players to join there service.

    Small correction there Billy.

    Calvin was not caught smuggling drugs into Canada. That was me. Nobody sold anybody else out, and particularly not Calvin.

    Other than that, bang on, especially the bit about having money in Bovada. Playing pin the tail on the donkey on the freeway is safer.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2012 - 5:53 PM ET #32

    You people are going crazy over a seized domain, any gambling site that uses .com is in much more jeopardy.

    What FACTS do you have that Bovada won't be around much longer?
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    You people are going crazy over a seized domain, any gambling site that uses .com is in much more jeopardy.

    What FACTS do you have that Bovada won't be around much longer?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2012 - 1:54 AM ET #33

    I remember when they had Bodog commercials for the World Series of Poker

    If they got rid of the DOJ personnel running this operation, got rid of 1/2 the cops, brought all the troops home, legalized drugs to get 1/2 the prison population back on the street......

    Used all those people to build roads instead of policing, killing people, or rotting in jail.....

    We'd get rid of the deficit instantly and our country would be back.

    But......it ain't gonna happen cause we got a sh!t bag in office who doesn't care about anything other than making a good speech and staying in office.  And there are douche bags everywhere in Congress who just know how get $ so they can lie to the average voting American idiot

    Country's going down and in a hurry.  It's laughable that we think of ourselves as the best country in the world-hell you can place a bet in England or almost anywhere in the world but you can't in the "free" USA unless you're in Vegas.  I'll be around when the country's gonna crash, and it's gonna crash and hard in less than 10 years people because we can't sustain our debt.

    Sorry for the political rant...I'm sad to see what happened to Calvin Ayre or anyone running nothing but a betting site
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    I remember when they had Bodog commercials for the World Series of Poker

    If they got rid of the DOJ personnel running this operation, got rid of 1/2 the cops, brought all the troops home, legalized drugs to get 1/2 the prison population back on the street......

    Used all those people to build roads instead of policing, killing people, or rotting in jail.....

    We'd get rid of the deficit instantly and our country would be back.

    But......it ain't gonna happen cause we got a sh!t bag in office who doesn't care about anything other than making a good speech and staying in office.  And there are douche bags everywhere in Congress who just know how get $ so they can lie to the average voting American idiot

    Country's going down and in a hurry.  It's laughable that we think of ourselves as the best country in the world-hell you can place a bet in England or almost anywhere in the world but you can't in the "free" USA unless you're in Vegas.  I'll be around when the country's gonna crash, and it's gonna crash and hard in less than 10 years people because we can't sustain our debt.

    Sorry for the political rant...I'm sad to see what happened to Calvin Ayre or anyone running nothing but a betting site
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2012 - 12:51 PM ET #34

    Screw the GOP!!!!!
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    Screw the GOP!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by BURG2VEGAS:

    if you played at bodog your a square, where is becky now? no lets go gov.christie get ur fat ass in federal court and make this happen
      Do you even know what your talking about?  Bodogs slow line movement and square player base makes it the perfect place to bet middles and get huge value on underdogs.  Bodog = $$$ , If your sharp enough to get it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURG2VEGAS:

    if you played at bodog your a square, where is becky now? no lets go gov.christie get ur fat ass in federal court and make this happen
      Do you even know what your talking about?  Bodogs slow line movement and square player base makes it the perfect place to bet middles and get huge value on underdogs.  Bodog = $$$ , If your sharp enough to get it!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2012 - 1:07 PM ET #36

    Locals are by far the most convenient way to wager. No WU, MG , you don't need to wait for shady checks or cash shady checks. 9 times out of ten you dont even need to post up.
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    Locals are by far the most convenient way to wager. No WU, MG , you don't need to wait for shady checks or cash shady checks. 9 times out of ten you dont even need to post up.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2012 - 7:29 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by joanne12:

    republicans started all this son,but libtards like you continue to ignore the fact that the dems have made everything much much worse,offshore is dead now,stop drinking the kool aid and quit looking for a handout like all you left wing scumbags do

     

    Ladyboy, you need to check your facts. You mad?

     

    What you need to do is understand that

    a) The GOP made online gaming illegal

    b) The feds did attack online gaming while Bush was in office (they went after payment processors and Bodog back then)

    c) Congressmen like Rick Renzi (voted 98% with Bush) told me that online gaming supports terrorism (a talking point repeated by the morons on Fox)

    d) The primary proponents of online gaming bills are Democrats. Yes, Joe Barton is a Republican, but that's why the AGA got him to sponsor that bill. He's a token Republican.

    e) ALL the GOP leaders are anti-online gaming. Cantor, Boehner, Kyl, Romney, Santorum, Newt. Why? Money from the brick and mortar side. If confused, please google  this phrase "Sheldon Adelson and Newt Gingrigh millions". Remember, Adelson is anti-gaming.

    Conclusion: The Dems are not doing a great job in online gaming, but if it were up to the GOP, we'd all be in prison by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joanne12:

    republicans started all this son,but libtards like you continue to ignore the fact that the dems have made everything much much worse,offshore is dead now,stop drinking the kool aid and quit looking for a handout like all you left wing scumbags do

     

    Ladyboy, you need to check your facts. You mad?

     

    What you need to do is understand that

    a) The GOP made online gaming illegal

    b) The feds did attack online gaming while Bush was in office (they went after payment processors and Bodog back then)

    c) Congressmen like Rick Renzi (voted 98% with Bush) told me that online gaming supports terrorism (a talking point repeated by the morons on Fox)

    d) The primary proponents of online gaming bills are Democrats. Yes, Joe Barton is a Republican, but that's why the AGA got him to sponsor that bill. He's a token Republican.

    e) ALL the GOP leaders are anti-online gaming. Cantor, Boehner, Kyl, Romney, Santorum, Newt. Why? Money from the brick and mortar side. If confused, please google  this phrase "Sheldon Adelson and Newt Gingrigh millions". Remember, Adelson is anti-gaming.

    Conclusion: The Dems are not doing a great job in online gaming, but if it were up to the GOP, we'd all be in prison by now.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 8:17 AM ET #38

    Like I said In a previous post the Obama justice dept. can just not choose to go after these sites if they are in favor of internet gambling. So all you GOP haters and Obama lovers should call the White house and complain to them about taking away your right to bet on sports. Bet it won't get you to far because any money seized goes into the US treasury and we know how much this president like spending other peoples money.
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    Like I said In a previous post the Obama justice dept. can just not choose to go after these sites if they are in favor of internet gambling. So all you GOP haters and Obama lovers should call the White house and complain to them about taking away your right to bet on sports. Bet it won't get you to far because any money seized goes into the US treasury and we know how much this president like spending other peoples money.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2012 - 1:48 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by rosshuff:

    Screw the GOP!!!!!


    You are half right
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosshuff:

    Screw the GOP!!!!!


    You are half right
     
    GoldenGater5x
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2012 - 3:41 PM ET #40

    So does that mean that people won't be paid from Bodog any more ? I don't bet to big and I have some money in there .. Just wondering what I should do next ?? 
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    So does that mean that people won't be paid from Bodog any more ? I don't bet to big and I have some money in there .. Just wondering what I should do next ?? 
     
    braves5795
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 1:49 PM ET #41

    go local
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    go local
     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 2:46 PM ET #42

    I am 1 NCAA Tournament away from saying the hell with sports betting. I lost a pretty penny when BOS went under and it is just going to continue until the US has it legalized with books paying taxes on profit and players being taxed on reported winnings and yes your winning will be reported.
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    I am 1 NCAA Tournament away from saying the hell with sports betting. I lost a pretty penny when BOS went under and it is just going to continue until the US has it legalized with books paying taxes on profit and players being taxed on reported winnings and yes your winning will be reported.
     
    GoldenGater5x
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 2:53 PM ET #43

    Does that mean i cant cash out what i have in there ?? 
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    Does that mean i cant cash out what i have in there ?? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 3:08 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenGater5x:

    Does that mean i cant cash out what i have in there ?? 

    Stop being ignorant my dude. Bodog is now Bovada. 

    You have an account on Bovada, not Bodog. Everything is like it use to be, you can cashout fine.

    The Feds are after Calvin Ayre, who really has nothing to do with Bovada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenGater5x:

    Does that mean i cant cash out what i have in there ?? 

    Stop being ignorant my dude. Bodog is now Bovada. 

    You have an account on Bovada, not Bodog. Everything is like it use to be, you can cashout fine.

    The Feds are after Calvin Ayre, who really has nothing to do with Bovada.
     
    MrDigitio
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 3:24 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by braves5795:

    go local
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    Quote Originally Posted by braves5795:

    go local
     
    PaddyMacR
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2012 - 5:49 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    The Feds are after Calvin Ayre, who really has nothing to do with Bovada.

    Does somebody pay you to peddle these malignant lies? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    The Feds are after Calvin Ayre, who really has nothing to do with Bovada.

    Does somebody pay you to peddle these malignant lies? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 10:14 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:




    your friend   GW BUSH took care of business , not Obama

    do your homework , fool

    Obama is too busy apologizing to every other country out there and having tea parties in the white house as he kisses their asses. Clown cant leave office fast enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:




    your friend   GW BUSH took care of business , not Obama

    do your homework , fool

    Obama is too busy apologizing to every other country out there and having tea parties in the white house as he kisses their asses. Clown cant leave office fast enough.
     
    4u2win
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2012 - 3:43 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:




    your friend   GW BUSH took care of business , not Obama

    do your homework , fool

    You are right my friend. Nice to see some people who know the facts.

    Best thing that ever happened to sports betting, was online wagering. You can only lose what you have....sorry BOOKIES, and you can buy points, better lines, bet 24 hours a day etc. and Bush ruined it, YET all the illigal BOOKIES survive....I wonder why!!!!! read between the lines....BIG fucken J O K E

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:




    your friend   GW BUSH took care of business , not Obama

    do your homework , fool

    You are right my friend. Nice to see some people who know the facts.

    Best thing that ever happened to sports betting, was online wagering. You can only lose what you have....sorry BOOKIES, and you can buy points, better lines, bet 24 hours a day etc. and Bush ruined it, YET all the illigal BOOKIES survive....I wonder why!!!!! read between the lines....BIG fucken J O K E

     

     
    mainmanmainman2
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2012 - 5:06 PM ET #49

    bovada survives!
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    bovada survives!
     
     
    jwsone
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2012 - 5:23 AM ET #50

    Yeah great fucking country we live in. Great scam the gov't has going. Make as much money as you want, and we'll take 30/35% every week and tell you where to spend what you have left. How many millions go back to Mexico and other 3rd world countries every week. Its harder to get money into the U.S. then to get it out. mmmmmm. That's the problem with the offshore business. find a way to get around the banking system (lol) and these companys wouldn't have any problems. The gov't and the powers to be, you really think they want anyone to make any substantial amount of money. If you were selling pencils on the street corner and making millions they'd find something illegal about it. lt always comes down to the buck. The more you have the less it devalues there's
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    Yeah great fucking country we live in. Great scam the gov't has going. Make as much money as you want, and we'll take 30/35% every week and tell you where to spend what you have left. How many millions go back to Mexico and other 3rd world countries every week. Its harder to get money into the U.S. then to get it out. mmmmmm. That's the problem with the offshore business. find a way to get around the banking system (lol) and these companys wouldn't have any problems. The gov't and the powers to be, you really think they want anyone to make any substantial amount of money. If you were selling pencils on the street corner and making millions they'd find something illegal about it. lt always comes down to the buck. The more you have the less it devalues there's
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