YEP sounds like the assclowns i dealt with. These pieces of garbage aren't going to pay anything. They are a joke! You are wasting your time, go to a real book! Go to SBG global, or betjamaica, or oddsmaker. Stay away from these losers!
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YEP sounds like the assclowns i dealt with. These pieces of garbage aren't going to pay anything. They are a joke! You are wasting your time, go to a real book! Go to SBG global, or betjamaica, or oddsmaker. Stay away from these losers!
Yeah, dont expect money from this site. I was 1 person backing them and now all i can say is. Play here if you want to wager for fun. They keep telling yu they will send you a check and they just wait for you to keep wagering and lose. Im gonna dumb my entire account in the next 2 days and watch to see if they actually call me to get paid back. Its embarrasing that they probably call me to pay them but when it comes to them paying make up any excuse in the book. I apologize for backing this book and calling them legit.
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Yeah, dont expect money from this site. I was 1 person backing them and now all i can say is. Play here if you want to wager for fun. They keep telling yu they will send you a check and they just wait for you to keep wagering and lose. Im gonna dumb my entire account in the next 2 days and watch to see if they actually call me to get paid back. Its embarrasing that they probably call me to pay them but when it comes to them paying make up any excuse in the book. I apologize for backing this book and calling them legit.
I did not get paid, niether did 2 of my buddies...
I assume if they get 500 new accts and 250 lose. so they do not pay the 250 winners and let's say 100 of the 250 losers acually pay.....bingo 100% profit.......SCAM SCAM SCAM !!!!!!!!1
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I did not get paid, niether did 2 of my buddies...
I assume if they get 500 new accts and 250 lose. so they do not pay the 250 winners and let's say 100 of the 250 losers acually pay.....bingo 100% profit.......SCAM SCAM SCAM !!!!!!!!1
Tom says: you want to bet my friend Tom says: I will have someone at your house so fast you will shit your pants Tom says: who do you think you are fucking with, a bunch of kids? Bevan Grimm says: Ok, Ill pay you when my processor fixed. Ok sir, I will press charges bro, no big deal lmao. Tom says: Pay attention to be as I will say this one time..... Tom says: you think that matters Tom says: you really want to fuck with me Bevan Grimm says: Im going to send a check to credit wagers. I need an address to send the check to. Tom says: I am not anyone you want to act like an asshole to Tom says: no need, i will send my guy there to pick it up Tom says: he charges a fee, but you can afford it Bevan Grimm says: Lmao, thanks for the threat person, we will see what the police think of that. Tom says: I will give you one chance to stop acting like a dick or I can promise you that I will not play games with you any longer Tom says: perfect Tom says: You got it Bevan Grimm says: What happens when someone comes here to kick my ass and I kick there ass? Tom says: you can call all you want fuckhead and no one can help you as you lost, you owe, you are a low life stiff and I will look forward to teaching you respect Tom says: you kidding Tom says: to funny Tom says: you dont get it do you Bevan Grimm says: All your site had to do was pay me when I was up and none of this happens lol. Tom says: listen, you are just a young punk who fucked with the wrong people. You made a big mistake my friend Tom says: you enjoy yourself as I will relay all to Ben this evening. Tom says: cya Tom says: The operator has terminated the chat session
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LMFAO
Tom says: you want to bet my friend Tom says: I will have someone at your house so fast you will shit your pants Tom says: who do you think you are fucking with, a bunch of kids? Bevan Grimm says: Ok, Ill pay you when my processor fixed. Ok sir, I will press charges bro, no big deal lmao. Tom says: Pay attention to be as I will say this one time..... Tom says: you think that matters Tom says: you really want to fuck with me Bevan Grimm says: Im going to send a check to credit wagers. I need an address to send the check to. Tom says: I am not anyone you want to act like an asshole to Tom says: no need, i will send my guy there to pick it up Tom says: he charges a fee, but you can afford it Bevan Grimm says: Lmao, thanks for the threat person, we will see what the police think of that. Tom says: I will give you one chance to stop acting like a dick or I can promise you that I will not play games with you any longer Tom says: perfect Tom says: You got it Bevan Grimm says: What happens when someone comes here to kick my ass and I kick there ass? Tom says: you can call all you want fuckhead and no one can help you as you lost, you owe, you are a low life stiff and I will look forward to teaching you respect Tom says: you kidding Tom says: to funny Tom says: you dont get it do you Bevan Grimm says: All your site had to do was pay me when I was up and none of this happens lol. Tom says: listen, you are just a young punk who fucked with the wrong people. You made a big mistake my friend Tom says: you enjoy yourself as I will relay all to Ben this evening. Tom says: cya Tom says: The operator has terminated the chat session
Has anyone else had these guys call there house lol. Ben basically told me and my family to watch out this is pretty good. Kinda got my mom a bit upset but eh what can you do. Supposedly this guy is going to show up or someone else at my place. I truely wish I knew where this guy lived, because I would fly to his house and beat the living shit out of him lmao. I asked him when my name would be in the paper from being found floating in the river and he hung up on me.
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Has anyone else had these guys call there house lol. Ben basically told me and my family to watch out this is pretty good. Kinda got my mom a bit upset but eh what can you do. Supposedly this guy is going to show up or someone else at my place. I truely wish I knew where this guy lived, because I would fly to his house and beat the living shit out of him lmao. I asked him when my name would be in the paper from being found floating in the river and he hung up on me.
Has anyone else had these guys call there house lol. Ben basically told me and my family to watch out this is pretty good. Kinda got my mom a bit upset but eh what can you do. Supposedly this guy is going to show up or someone else at my place. I truely wish I knew where this guy lived, because I would fly to his house and beat the living shit out of him lmao. I asked him when my name would be in the paper from being found floating in the river and he hung up on me.
Please keep updating the story. That shit is funny
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Quote Originally Posted by bgrimm101:
Has anyone else had these guys call there house lol. Ben basically told me and my family to watch out this is pretty good. Kinda got my mom a bit upset but eh what can you do. Supposedly this guy is going to show up or someone else at my place. I truely wish I knew where this guy lived, because I would fly to his house and beat the living shit out of him lmao. I asked him when my name would be in the paper from being found floating in the river and he hung up on me.
Please keep updating the story. That shit is funny
Hes emailed me today saying how I can pay him 1500 and keep using the book or 1000 and never use the book again. This guy is scrapping. After 1 day willing to cut the debt into 1/3 sounds desperate to me no. Too bad there is no debt.
Here is the most recent email:
All communications are over sir. You had your chance and we are done. I will talk with your mommie and daddy this week and get this resolved as this email was the last straw. I am sure mommie will take care of her little boy and if not we will for sure. You are just to stupid and the time for communication is over.
This is getting absurd. If me and this guy were face to face I would start punching him and might not stop till there is no life left in him. I feel bad that I might have to get our phone number changed though.
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Hes emailed me today saying how I can pay him 1500 and keep using the book or 1000 and never use the book again. This guy is scrapping. After 1 day willing to cut the debt into 1/3 sounds desperate to me no. Too bad there is no debt.
Here is the most recent email:
All communications are over sir. You had your chance and we are done. I will talk with your mommie and daddy this week and get this resolved as this email was the last straw. I am sure mommie will take care of her little boy and if not we will for sure. You are just to stupid and the time for communication is over.
This is getting absurd. If me and this guy were face to face I would start punching him and might not stop till there is no life left in him. I feel bad that I might have to get our phone number changed though.
YEP the assholes of the world are exactly like that, he called me but found out real quick that i was not taking nor listening to his shit. He is a foulmouthed, arrogant, prick named Ben and he shut up and hung up real quick after f this and fthat. I got the last laugh though. I never even was a customer because they were too stupid to send messages to the right email. He said so i guess i am too stupid to hit reply and it goes right back to you and i said , well evidently you are because i don't know who you emailed but it wasn't me!! What a bunch of losers, they aren't going to come to your house or anybody else's because they are loudmouth scum and lowlifes, trying to steal people's money. He found out real quick who was boss! They are great for entertainment value though. i had him speechless and so pissed he just hung up and i never heard from them again. And to boot i never ever even got my account opened because they were too stupid to even do that! What a bunch of losers, Oh yes Big bad Ben Whooooooo! now everyone is scared LOL what a bunch of assclowns! Yeah legitimate business my ass!
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YEP the assholes of the world are exactly like that, he called me but found out real quick that i was not taking nor listening to his shit. He is a foulmouthed, arrogant, prick named Ben and he shut up and hung up real quick after f this and fthat. I got the last laugh though. I never even was a customer because they were too stupid to send messages to the right email. He said so i guess i am too stupid to hit reply and it goes right back to you and i said , well evidently you are because i don't know who you emailed but it wasn't me!! What a bunch of losers, they aren't going to come to your house or anybody else's because they are loudmouth scum and lowlifes, trying to steal people's money. He found out real quick who was boss! They are great for entertainment value though. i had him speechless and so pissed he just hung up and i never heard from them again. And to boot i never ever even got my account opened because they were too stupid to even do that! What a bunch of losers, Oh yes Big bad Ben Whooooooo! now everyone is scared LOL what a bunch of assclowns! Yeah legitimate business my ass!
LOL everyone be scared of Ben. If I was owed money, I wouldn't tell the person I was coming to their house lmao. This guy is complete scum. Tommorow he will let me bet again if I send him $500 lmao. I hope he sends someone to my house. I would love to see some guy getting handcuffed on my front steps lmao. The funniest part is this: Chances anything happens = 0% lmao. Ben if you read this, this is what I want to do to you. I want to give you a beating then when you are on the ground crying like a bitch, I would piss on you and then spit on your face. You are truely the biggest scumbag I have ever heard from in my entire life.
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LOL everyone be scared of Ben. If I was owed money, I wouldn't tell the person I was coming to their house lmao. This guy is complete scum. Tommorow he will let me bet again if I send him $500 lmao. I hope he sends someone to my house. I would love to see some guy getting handcuffed on my front steps lmao. The funniest part is this: Chances anything happens = 0% lmao. Ben if you read this, this is what I want to do to you. I want to give you a beating then when you are on the ground crying like a bitch, I would piss on you and then spit on your face. You are truely the biggest scumbag I have ever heard from in my entire life.
Just got a call from ben, they screwed me on horse racing for the last time, tolded them in the past to adust central times for mid west tracks, they would be ahead by at least a race and i would get shut out 45min before post, anyway played around with site for 3 months never won or lost,today i bet a race at tampa and the race already ran (yeah i knew it), they caught it and closed my acount at -358 to date and said i need to make payment arrangement, yea if i was up i seriously doubt they would have paid me, this shit is too funny. I followed covers about this site and never could confirm payout.
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Just got a call from ben, they screwed me on horse racing for the last time, tolded them in the past to adust central times for mid west tracks, they would be ahead by at least a race and i would get shut out 45min before post, anyway played around with site for 3 months never won or lost,today i bet a race at tampa and the race already ran (yeah i knew it), they caught it and closed my acount at -358 to date and said i need to make payment arrangement, yea if i was up i seriously doubt they would have paid me, this shit is too funny. I followed covers about this site and never could confirm payout.
Like KinKAID... I read the majority (actually, all) of the this thread and I wanna give it a go too.
Seems like there has only been once case of not getting paid and he hasn't even come back to confirm it and the Stiff list is about the worst that happens if you don't pay.
I find it funny how many people are on the Stiffs list, yet they still continue to operate... and DuY having his picture up there is too fucking funny.
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Like KinKAID... I read the majority (actually, all) of the this thread and I wanna give it a go too.
Seems like there has only been once case of not getting paid and he hasn't even come back to confirm it and the Stiff list is about the worst that happens if you don't pay.
I find it funny how many people are on the Stiffs list, yet they still continue to operate... and DuY having his picture up there is too fucking funny.
some of these stories of "ben" calling up people and threatening them is having me in tears. i want to open an acct, lose on purpose and record the phone calls and post it on youtube and turn it into a series.
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some of these stories of "ben" calling up people and threatening them is having me in tears. i want to open an acct, lose on purpose and record the phone calls and post it on youtube and turn it into a series.
some of these stories of "ben" calling up people and threatening them is having me in tears. i want to open an acct, lose on purpose and record the phone calls and post it on youtube and turn it into a series.
Even better... WIN, CASH... THEN LOSE. That makes you a Super Stiff instead of a Regular Stiff. Ben gets super pissed at that.
Haha Ben called me my first day, seemed like a stand-up guy to me. Funny that he was running the live chat at the beginning because he sounds like such a businessman... and whereas now, guys like Rafa and Carlos do the live chat haha.
Their casino is actually so fixed/crooked. Like, why do online casinos even have both kinds of roulette? They clearly don't just expect suckers to play the American version when there is a European version right beside it.... so I know the software has them probably at the same house advantage... something like 20% or something retarded.
I like to do a system where you play left(bottom) and middle columns and red. The right(top) column is mostly red.
Get it red, and in your columns = +20 Get it black, and in your columns = even Get it red, but not in your column = -10 Get it on the 'death numbers' (0, 6, 15, 24, 33) = -30
Not the greatest system but it limits your losses and lets you play for awhile... SHOULDA SEEN HOW MANY DEATH NUMBERS CAME UP. I was through my bankroll in like 8 spins... just because the system immediately recognized my system and it's weakness and exploited. The ONLY time I ever won was when I was wagering the last of my funds... I assume to try and hook me.
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Quote Originally Posted by hanziman:
some of these stories of "ben" calling up people and threatening them is having me in tears. i want to open an acct, lose on purpose and record the phone calls and post it on youtube and turn it into a series.
Even better... WIN, CASH... THEN LOSE. That makes you a Super Stiff instead of a Regular Stiff. Ben gets super pissed at that.
Haha Ben called me my first day, seemed like a stand-up guy to me. Funny that he was running the live chat at the beginning because he sounds like such a businessman... and whereas now, guys like Rafa and Carlos do the live chat haha.
Their casino is actually so fixed/crooked. Like, why do online casinos even have both kinds of roulette? They clearly don't just expect suckers to play the American version when there is a European version right beside it.... so I know the software has them probably at the same house advantage... something like 20% or something retarded.
I like to do a system where you play left(bottom) and middle columns and red. The right(top) column is mostly red.
Get it red, and in your columns = +20 Get it black, and in your columns = even Get it red, but not in your column = -10 Get it on the 'death numbers' (0, 6, 15, 24, 33) = -30
Not the greatest system but it limits your losses and lets you play for awhile... SHOULDA SEEN HOW MANY DEATH NUMBERS CAME UP. I was through my bankroll in like 8 spins... just because the system immediately recognized my system and it's weakness and exploited. The ONLY time I ever won was when I was wagering the last of my funds... I assume to try and hook me.
this is not about being a stiff dumbass, this is about these crooks and who really gives a rat's ass about what pisses that prick Ben off? Nobody cares about that blowhard loser or this pathetic excuse for a site. It is the most unprofessional and biggest trash there has ever been. You are a total dumbass if you think Ben is a standup guy and as for running the chat in the beginning, there is only a couple of guys, probably 2 or 3 at the most but one for sure. All of them are a bunch of unprofessional, foulmouthed, losers and so are you if you think they are so great.
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this is not about being a stiff dumbass, this is about these crooks and who really gives a rat's ass about what pisses that prick Ben off? Nobody cares about that blowhard loser or this pathetic excuse for a site. It is the most unprofessional and biggest trash there has ever been. You are a total dumbass if you think Ben is a standup guy and as for running the chat in the beginning, there is only a couple of guys, probably 2 or 3 at the most but one for sure. All of them are a bunch of unprofessional, foulmouthed, losers and so are you if you think they are so great.
lol... Live Chat is there to answer your questions within seconds. Sometimes they are slow to adjust lines, sometimes they have +EV edges when I compare it to Pinnacle. And on top of that, it's credit!
It's there to make money.
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lol... Live Chat is there to answer your questions within seconds. Sometimes they are slow to adjust lines, sometimes they have +EV edges when I compare it to Pinnacle. And on top of that, it's credit!
make money i have no problem with but to be assholes, unprofessional, and to steal money is totally unacceptable, you know nothing anyways so i am not wasting my time debating with someone whom is not worthy. Waste your time and money if you wish to deal with the scum of the earth, or maybe you are part of them. Either way i will just go on dealing with reputable and honest people while you deal with self absorbed blowhards and lowlifes who needs to get their asses kicked.
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make money i have no problem with but to be assholes, unprofessional, and to steal money is totally unacceptable, you know nothing anyways so i am not wasting my time debating with someone whom is not worthy. Waste your time and money if you wish to deal with the scum of the earth, or maybe you are part of them. Either way i will just go on dealing with reputable and honest people while you deal with self absorbed blowhards and lowlifes who needs to get their asses kicked.
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