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    onarush
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 3:43 PM ET #1

    My brother opened an account around turkey day.... There was an issue regarding his card.... A rep called back, he gave all his personal info over the phone.... Deposit still pending at this point.... His bank called numerous times over the weekend about multiple fraudulent charges/overdrafts.... I questioned him about the use of his card to this point... Claims it's a brand new account and card.... He is going into the bank today to see what happened.... I'll return with all the facts when I see him..... 
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    My brother opened an account around turkey day.... There was an issue regarding his card.... A rep called back, he gave all his personal info over the phone.... Deposit still pending at this point.... His bank called numerous times over the weekend about multiple fraudulent charges/overdrafts.... I questioned him about the use of his card to this point... Claims it's a brand new account and card.... He is going into the bank today to see what happened.... I'll return with all the facts when I see him..... 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 3:45 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 3:47 PM ET #3

    They are very professional with credit card deposits in my experiences with them.
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    They are very professional with credit card deposits in my experiences with them.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 3:50 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    They are very professional with credit card deposits in my experiences with them.

    I've also heard alot of the same....

    This could be an isolated incident with a particular rep..... 

    I just can't see how his else his info could've been obtained with the card being brand new....
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    They are very professional with credit card deposits in my experiences with them.

    I've also heard alot of the same....

    This could be an isolated incident with a particular rep..... 

    I just can't see how his else his info could've been obtained with the card being brand new....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 4:02 PM ET #5

    They accept credit cards for deposits from US members?
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    They accept credit cards for deposits from US members?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 4:05 PM ET #6

    I lost $900 a few months back in fraudulent charges after making a small deposit on fulltilt poker.... All the money was returned to my account after a 2-3 week investigation..... I hope they do the same for him.... He isn't in a position financially to recover from this.... He shouldn't have been putting his money in action to begin with.... All this was obviously done behind my back.... He didn't come to me til after his bank called.... Kid is only 22, lives with me, and I've pretty much been his father figure growing up.....
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    I lost $900 a few months back in fraudulent charges after making a small deposit on fulltilt poker.... All the money was returned to my account after a 2-3 week investigation..... I hope they do the same for him.... He isn't in a position financially to recover from this.... He shouldn't have been putting his money in action to begin with.... All this was obviously done behind my back.... He didn't come to me til after his bank called.... Kid is only 22, lives with me, and I've pretty much been his father figure growing up.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 4:10 PM ET #7

    He may have been shopping other online books and making attempts at depositing left right and center. If BetUS had anything at all to do with it I'd like to know.

    I seriously doubt it though. Their lines are high and the reps are not always on the level, but they don't mess with fraud.

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    He may have been shopping other online books and making attempts at depositing left right and center. If BetUS had anything at all to do with it I'd like to know.

    I seriously doubt it though. Their lines are high and the reps are not always on the level, but they don't mess with fraud.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 4:51 PM ET #8

    The problem is that the Bank is not letting the offshore deposit go through because most U.S. banks have blocked many of the deposit methods that sportsbooks/online pokersites use. So the Bank is calling to let the depositor know that there is an issue with a deposit being made that may be fraudulant because it is being made from outside the country.

    I use betus and the only issues that I have had with them(Other than shitty lines) was problems making deposits. My Bank would lock up my card after an attempt  would be made for a deposit.

    The Banks have lists of the various deposit methods and if one of those shows up, they will deny it.

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    The problem is that the Bank is not letting the offshore deposit go through because most U.S. banks have blocked many of the deposit methods that sportsbooks/online pokersites use. So the Bank is calling to let the depositor know that there is an issue with a deposit being made that may be fraudulant because it is being made from outside the country.

    I use betus and the only issues that I have had with them(Other than shitty lines) was problems making deposits. My Bank would lock up my card after an attempt  would be made for a deposit.

    The Banks have lists of the various deposit methods and if one of those shows up, they will deny it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 4:53 PM ET #9

    If you use an international Visa Gift Card(which can be purchased at CVS pharmacy) you will not have these problems anymore.

    The Banks have really started putting a clamp down on offshore deposits over the past 16 months.

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    If you use an international Visa Gift Card(which can be purchased at CVS pharmacy) you will not have these problems anymore.

    The Banks have really started putting a clamp down on offshore deposits over the past 16 months.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 7:48 PM ET #10

    ^ yes, what Crowkillers is saying is exactly right
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    ^ yes, what Crowkillers is saying is exactly right
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 9:52 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    The problem is that the Bank is not letting the offshore deposit go through because most U.S. banks have blocked many of the deposit methods that sportsbooks/online pokersites use. So the Bank is calling to let the depositor know that there is an issue with a deposit being made that may be fraudulant because it is being made from outside the country.

    I use betus and the only issues that I have had with them(Other than shitty lines) was problems making deposits. My Bank would lock up my card after an attempt  would be made for a deposit.

    The Banks have lists of the various deposit methods and if one of those shows up, they will deny it.


    Hey guys, sorry took me awhile to get back with an update... My girl is teething....  It's been hell getting her down....

    Crowkillers hit the nail on the head above.... This is exactly what happened.... His account had just been frozen by his bank....


    As searchwarrant had stated earlier.... The multiple charges were from him bouncing around different books.... Trying to get a deposit to go through.....


    I guess I jumped the gun a bit after getting cornholed by fulltilt recently....

    Tx for all your input guys.....







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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    The problem is that the Bank is not letting the offshore deposit go through because most U.S. banks have blocked many of the deposit methods that sportsbooks/online pokersites use. So the Bank is calling to let the depositor know that there is an issue with a deposit being made that may be fraudulant because it is being made from outside the country.

    I use betus and the only issues that I have had with them(Other than shitty lines) was problems making deposits. My Bank would lock up my card after an attempt  would be made for a deposit.

    The Banks have lists of the various deposit methods and if one of those shows up, they will deny it.


    Hey guys, sorry took me awhile to get back with an update... My girl is teething....  It's been hell getting her down....

    Crowkillers hit the nail on the head above.... This is exactly what happened.... His account had just been frozen by his bank....


    As searchwarrant had stated earlier.... The multiple charges were from him bouncing around different books.... Trying to get a deposit to go through.....


    I guess I jumped the gun a bit after getting cornholed by fulltilt recently....

    Tx for all your input guys.....







     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 8:56 AM ET #12

    Hey onarush,

    I am glad to here BetUS wasnt a fault here. They have been really good as far as being able to take deposits and CC companies are really on the look out these days for people trying to use stolen crdit cards.

     

    Hey crowkillers and search warrant. Thanks for jumping inn here and providing some good insight.

    Lou. 

     

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    Hey onarush,

    I am glad to here BetUS wasnt a fault here. They have been really good as far as being able to take deposits and CC companies are really on the look out these days for people trying to use stolen crdit cards.

     

    Hey crowkillers and search warrant. Thanks for jumping inn here and providing some good insight.

    Lou. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 9:52 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou:

    Hey onarush,

    I am glad to here BetUS wasnt a fault here. They have been really good as far as being able to take deposits and CC companies are really on the look out these days for people trying to use stolen crdit cards.


    hey Lou,

                       Any thoughts on the constant bashing of BETUS on the boards over at SBR. Even here at covers they say they dont pay?

     

    Hey crowkillers and search warrant. Thanks for jumping inn here and providing some good insight.

    Lou. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou:

    Hey onarush,

    I am glad to here BetUS wasnt a fault here. They have been really good as far as being able to take deposits and CC companies are really on the look out these days for people trying to use stolen crdit cards.


    hey Lou,

                       Any thoughts on the constant bashing of BETUS on the boards over at SBR. Even here at covers they say they dont pay?

     

    Hey crowkillers and search warrant. Thanks for jumping inn here and providing some good insight.

    Lou. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #14

    I use a WU Visa prepaid card that you reload for $5 at any WU all the books take it
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    I use a WU Visa prepaid card that you reload for $5 at any WU all the books take it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 12:35 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseykingpin:

    I use a WU Visa prepaid card that you reload for $5 at any WU all the books take it

    do you deposit to a book online or do have to go to  WU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseykingpin:

    I use a WU Visa prepaid card that you reload for $5 at any WU all the books take it

    do you deposit to a book online or do have to go to  WU?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 12:23 PM ET #16

    eyeball, I have been using betus for over 6 years now, and I have never had any issues with making withdrawals. When I request a payout, it is usually processed within 24 hours and I have a check delivered from UPS in 2 days.($3,000 max at one time)

    I am not 100% sure, but I think most people that claim that they have withdrawal issues are one that are accepting freeplays and then not meeting the rollover requirements, thus it is holding up their payouts.

    I know withdrawals used to be a $40 charge, but last year, my wife and I both started getting free withdrawals, so they may have changed that.

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    eyeball, I have been using betus for over 6 years now, and I have never had any issues with making withdrawals. When I request a payout, it is usually processed within 24 hours and I have a check delivered from UPS in 2 days.($3,000 max at one time)

    I am not 100% sure, but I think most people that claim that they have withdrawal issues are one that are accepting freeplays and then not meeting the rollover requirements, thus it is holding up their payouts.

    I know withdrawals used to be a $40 charge, but last year, my wife and I both started getting free withdrawals, so they may have changed that.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #17

    I agree with Lou and the others about Betus being really good about accepting CC deposits as well as the security of the transactions. Withdrawals, however, may be a whole other issue. I too have been with Betus for many years, at least 5 and never have any problem putting money in, but I think I am on the forefront of a withdrawal hassle. All of my documentation is in. I have never had any freeplay/ rollover issues. I have successfully deposited and lost 10's of thousands over the years. I was told there will be no more checks via Fed Ex and have been waiting on what they call a "direct credit" for about a week now. I was curious Crowkillers, when was the last time you requested a withdrawal? I am a little frustrated that I was told there are no other withdrawal options.
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    I agree with Lou and the others about Betus being really good about accepting CC deposits as well as the security of the transactions. Withdrawals, however, may be a whole other issue. I too have been with Betus for many years, at least 5 and never have any problem putting money in, but I think I am on the forefront of a withdrawal hassle. All of my documentation is in. I have never had any freeplay/ rollover issues. I have successfully deposited and lost 10's of thousands over the years. I was told there will be no more checks via Fed Ex and have been waiting on what they call a "direct credit" for about a week now. I was curious Crowkillers, when was the last time you requested a withdrawal? I am a little frustrated that I was told there are no other withdrawal options.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2010 - 12:32 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    eyeball, I have been using betus for over 6 years now, and I have never had any issues with making withdrawals. When I request a payout, it is usually processed within 24 hours and I have a check delivered from UPS in 2 days.($3,000 max at one time)

    I am not 100% sure, but I think most people that claim that they have withdrawal issues are one that are accepting freeplays and then not meeting the rollover requirements, thus it is holding up their payouts.

    I know withdrawals used to be a $40 charge, but last year, my wife and I both started getting free withdrawals, so they may have changed that.

    Crowkillers, when was the last time you requested a withdrawal? I am a little frustrated that I was told there are no other withdrawal options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    eyeball, I have been using betus for over 6 years now, and I have never had any issues with making withdrawals. When I request a payout, it is usually processed within 24 hours and I have a check delivered from UPS in 2 days.($3,000 max at one time)

    I am not 100% sure, but I think most people that claim that they have withdrawal issues are one that are accepting freeplays and then not meeting the rollover requirements, thus it is holding up their payouts.

    I know withdrawals used to be a $40 charge, but last year, my wife and I both started getting free withdrawals, so they may have changed that.

    Crowkillers, when was the last time you requested a withdrawal? I am a little frustrated that I was told there are no other withdrawal options.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 3:35 PM ET #19

    Some good stuff in this thread.  The deposits are nice and easy.  The withdrawls or payouts can only be done by direct credit at this time.  I have used BETUS for years, and they are aces in my mind.  You give them certain info, and they direct deposit into your account.
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    Some good stuff in this thread.  The deposits are nice and easy.  The withdrawls or payouts can only be done by direct credit at this time.  I have used BETUS for years, and they are aces in my mind.  You give them certain info, and they direct deposit into your account.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:14 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket10:

    Some good stuff in this thread.  The deposits are nice and easy.  The withdrawls or payouts can only be done by direct credit at this time.  I have used BETUS for years, and they are aces in my mind.  You give them certain info, and they direct deposit into your account.

    is this a direct deposit to your bank acct, or back to ur credit card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket10:

    Some good stuff in this thread.  The deposits are nice and easy.  The withdrawls or payouts can only be done by direct credit at this time.  I have used BETUS for years, and they are aces in my mind.  You give them certain info, and they direct deposit into your account.

    is this a direct deposit to your bank acct, or back to ur credit card?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 11:40 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by naught33:

    is this a direct deposit to your bank acct, or back to ur credit card?

    They are doing bank accounts now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by naught33:

    is this a direct deposit to your bank acct, or back to ur credit card?

    They are doing bank accounts now...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 9:48 AM ET #22

    BetUS new payout method they are offering is "Direct Debits" into banks, which is fantastic. I set up a specific free banking account just for them and as soon as I get it, I move the money. In your bank account within 2-3 days. And if you have any fees, they will put that money back in your account with proof of fees. They really expedite it if you have your own acct. manager , which I do. The account managers get paid on the transactions (similar to a broker) for both deposits and withdrawals from the way she explained it.  I have been with mine for about 2.5 years now and love her.

    In terms of workaround for credit cards, I have found a way that has worked for years. I called my credit company many years ago and told them in advance that they would start seeing more INTL purchase attempts on my card. I told them that I run an eBay shipping business where I buy wholesale items internationally and sell them via eBay. BetUS typically came up as shoe purchases in Dubai, so it worked without any hesitations and my credit card fraud group doesn't bother me at all. I am not guaranteeing it will work for every card, however it has worked for 2 different cards that I own.

    Bottom line, I think BETUs is great and very happy I signed with them years ago.

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    BetUS new payout method they are offering is "Direct Debits" into banks, which is fantastic. I set up a specific free banking account just for them and as soon as I get it, I move the money. In your bank account within 2-3 days. And if you have any fees, they will put that money back in your account with proof of fees. They really expedite it if you have your own acct. manager , which I do. The account managers get paid on the transactions (similar to a broker) for both deposits and withdrawals from the way she explained it.  I have been with mine for about 2.5 years now and love her.

    In terms of workaround for credit cards, I have found a way that has worked for years. I called my credit company many years ago and told them in advance that they would start seeing more INTL purchase attempts on my card. I told them that I run an eBay shipping business where I buy wholesale items internationally and sell them via eBay. BetUS typically came up as shoe purchases in Dubai, so it worked without any hesitations and my credit card fraud group doesn't bother me at all. I am not guaranteeing it will work for every card, however it has worked for 2 different cards that I own.

    Bottom line, I think BETUs is great and very happy I signed with them years ago.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 3:02 PM ET #23

    I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THAT BETUS BUNCH
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    I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THAT BETUS BUNCH
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 3:07 PM ET #24

    Ethan from Betus called me yesterday and they asked me what annual Jersey I would like. I got an Aarom Rogers one on the way.
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    Ethan from Betus called me yesterday and they asked me what annual Jersey I would like. I got an Aarom Rogers one on the way.
     
     
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