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Japanese Grand Prix

Not really a big writeup required except for the weather.  Rain is very possible, and everyone thinks that rain will throw the race into craziness...which it could...but not up front.  Mercedes are better in wet conditions than every other car and it's not close.  So rain actually helps them.

Few plays to get us started...Going to make sure I don't bet on the same guy twice in different bets.  Bottas and his flat tyre with 4 turns left last race took me from my best race ever to barely profitable.  Not going to get burned by that again.

Massa -190 top 6
Alonso -145 over Vettel
Button -250 top 10

Also going to put a little bit on Rosberg to win +105.  I think his car is just a little bit better than Hamilton's, and he's going to be extra motivated to get a win after last races debacle.  I'll wait closer to the start of the race to see if anything else jumps out.
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Not really a big writeup required except for the weather.  Rain is very possible, and everyone thinks that rain will throw the race into craziness...which it could...but not up front.  Mercedes are better in wet conditions than every other car and it's not close.  So rain actually helps them.

Few plays to get us started...Going to make sure I don't bet on the same guy twice in different bets.  Bottas and his flat tyre with 4 turns left last race took me from my best race ever to barely profitable.  Not going to get burned by that again.

Massa -190 top 6
Alonso -145 over Vettel
Button -250 top 10

Also going to put a little bit on Rosberg to win +105.  I think his car is just a little bit better than Hamilton's, and he's going to be extra motivated to get a win after last races debacle.  I'll wait closer to the start of the race to see if anything else jumps out.
 
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Crazy rumors starting to swirl as soon as Vettel announced he's leaving.  Here's what I'm reading...

1.  Red Bull did an illegal engine test on an indoor track trying to test the Renault engines.
2.  Red Bull is so fed up with the Renault engines that they are threatening to bill the engine builder for poor results and image damage to Red Bull.  Lol...crazy.
3.  Vettel isn't a lock to go to Ferrari.  McClaren has been making a push to build a super team, and his name has been brought up...BUT
4.  They are switching to Honda next year, and Honda is already months behind schedule.  

This is only what I'm hearing...but Vettel isn't leaving Red Bull unless he has something in place.  His press conference was a joke, and when asked if he was leaving for Ferrari he said, "I can't say anything right now but it will be announced soon".  When Alonso was asked if he was leaving he said he hadn't made a decision.  

CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORY:  It would be a real serious move if Ferrari is replacing Kimi with Vettel, but that's a looooong shot.

Magnussen's contract is easy to get out of so McClaren can replace him easily, so I'm guessing he's getting the boot no matter what.  Just going to be interesting who replaces him.
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Crazy rumors starting to swirl as soon as Vettel announced he's leaving.  Here's what I'm reading...

1.  Red Bull did an illegal engine test on an indoor track trying to test the Renault engines.
2.  Red Bull is so fed up with the Renault engines that they are threatening to bill the engine builder for poor results and image damage to Red Bull.  Lol...crazy.
3.  Vettel isn't a lock to go to Ferrari.  McClaren has been making a push to build a super team, and his name has been brought up...BUT
4.  They are switching to Honda next year, and Honda is already months behind schedule.  

This is only what I'm hearing...but Vettel isn't leaving Red Bull unless he has something in place.  His press conference was a joke, and when asked if he was leaving for Ferrari he said, "I can't say anything right now but it will be announced soon".  When Alonso was asked if he was leaving he said he hadn't made a decision.  

CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORY:  It would be a real serious move if Ferrari is replacing Kimi with Vettel, but that's a looooong shot.

Magnussen's contract is easy to get out of so McClaren can replace him easily, so I'm guessing he's getting the boot no matter what.  Just going to be interesting who replaces him.
 
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Tough race to call. I'll be playing Hamilton +125 to win or staying away. Hamilton to podium -350 is a ML parlay stuffer if looking to reduce a chalky NFL ML favorite or two.
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Tough race to call. I'll be playing Hamilton +125 to win or staying away. Hamilton to podium -350 is a ML parlay stuffer if looking to reduce a chalky NFL ML favorite or two.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

Tough race to call. I'll be playing Hamilton +125 to win or staying away. Hamilton to podium -350 is a ML parlay stuffer if looking to reduce a chalky NFL ML favorite or two.

Interesting idea.  I like it  
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Tough race to call. I'll be playing Hamilton +125 to win or staying away. Hamilton to podium -350 is a ML parlay stuffer if looking to reduce a chalky NFL ML favorite or two.

Interesting idea.  I like it  
 
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If the track is wet...be very careful betting against the Red Bull cars.  Just read where they qualified bad, but it was because they are running the wet setups and preparing for a race in the rain.  Didn't see that before I bet Alonso over Vettel
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If the track is wet...be very careful betting against the Red Bull cars.  Just read where they qualified bad, but it was because they are running the wet setups and preparing for a race in the rain.  Didn't see that before I bet Alonso over Vettel
 
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Hamilton is down to -260 top 3.  Clepto, that's a great price to throw in a parlay.  

Adding Hamilton top 3 -260
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Hamilton is down to -260 top 3.  Clepto, that's a great price to throw in a parlay.  

Adding Hamilton top 3 -260
 
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Adding a bit to Bottas top 6
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Lost a unit this morning missing the Massa bet by one position, and Alonso's trouble.  I've been unlucky the last few races by placing bets on guys who end up with unforeseen mechanical issues/flat tyres.  It tends to even out over the course of the season, but it's tough when you go through a bad stretch.

That being said, me losing a unit on betting F1 is nothing compared to what Bianchi and the Ferrari family is going through right now.  I know it was a racing incident, and these guys sign up for it, but I'm going to be critical of a lot of people for a minute.

The sponsors had a chance to move the time of the race so the conditions wouldn't be as bad, and they kept it the same to guarantee fans could get there.  Which is really dumb because the fans were there all day.  Nobody was going to miss that race by moving it back a few hours.

F1 should never have been a position where they let sponsors dictate when a race should be run in bad conditions.

I have no idea why that tractor came out there while the race was still going on.  They should've waited til the end.  Put the caution flag out in that section and wait 6 laps.  I don't know if the caution flag was out in that area or not, but there were so many things that could've been done and should've been done so that an accident like that would've never happened.

A racing incident is one thing, but there's something that feels different about this one seeing as how it could've been avoided on multiple levels.  I feel awful for Bianchi and his family and all his friends in F1 and Ferrari...I really hope he recovers, and hopefully F1 and everyone involved learns something from this accident to prevent future serious accidents.  Lot of people need to go over what happened today and see how they had a hand in it.

Give your loved one a hug today, and if you lose a couple units today just remember...it could be worse.

That's my opinion on this matter.

Great race by Hamilton, and Vettel.  That was a good podium finish, and Red Bull clearly had a great handle on the wet setups.  But these Mercedes this year are truly in a league of their own.  Very impressive. 
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Lost a unit this morning missing the Massa bet by one position, and Alonso's trouble.  I've been unlucky the last few races by placing bets on guys who end up with unforeseen mechanical issues/flat tyres.  It tends to even out over the course of the season, but it's tough when you go through a bad stretch.

That being said, me losing a unit on betting F1 is nothing compared to what Bianchi and the Ferrari family is going through right now.  I know it was a racing incident, and these guys sign up for it, but I'm going to be critical of a lot of people for a minute.

The sponsors had a chance to move the time of the race so the conditions wouldn't be as bad, and they kept it the same to guarantee fans could get there.  Which is really dumb because the fans were there all day.  Nobody was going to miss that race by moving it back a few hours.

F1 should never have been a position where they let sponsors dictate when a race should be run in bad conditions.

I have no idea why that tractor came out there while the race was still going on.  They should've waited til the end.  Put the caution flag out in that section and wait 6 laps.  I don't know if the caution flag was out in that area or not, but there were so many things that could've been done and should've been done so that an accident like that would've never happened.

A racing incident is one thing, but there's something that feels different about this one seeing as how it could've been avoided on multiple levels.  I feel awful for Bianchi and his family and all his friends in F1 and Ferrari...I really hope he recovers, and hopefully F1 and everyone involved learns something from this accident to prevent future serious accidents.  Lot of people need to go over what happened today and see how they had a hand in it.

Give your loved one a hug today, and if you lose a couple units today just remember...it could be worse.

That's my opinion on this matter.

Great race by Hamilton, and Vettel.  That was a good podium finish, and Red Bull clearly had a great handle on the wet setups.  But these Mercedes this year are truly in a league of their own.  Very impressive. 
 
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RUSSIAN GRAND PRIX

I'm very excited to watch this race, as it's the very first Russian Grand Prix.  I was pretty impressed to see how Russian doesn't want to let their Olympic venues go to waste like other countries have done (Hello Greece), and this track is one of those additions.  It goes around some of the Sochi facilities, and apparently it will be opened all year for testing.  They also will have a driving school out of this venue.

Couple of interesting fun facts I learned doing research on this race:

1.  Putin actually loves F1 racing, is very excited to have the race and even got to drive an F1 car in 2010 .
2.  This course cost about $330 million to make.  However, the shocking thing is that the Abu Dhabi track cost $1.3 BILLION.  That's not a typo.
3.  Even though it's not on city streets, the design is very similar to that of a street course.  Lots of 90 degree turns.

Ok, so on to the betting.  Hamilton clearly the favorite, but -275 is unreal.  Too much to lay in my opinion.  Mercedes have had some trouble at times with mechanical and braking issues so I'm not going to lay that much with a win.

The juice the books are laying on these bets is getting pretty bad.  If you want to take Kyvat to finish in the top 10 you need to lay -300...it's a joke. 

So I'm going to start doing something that I notice some of the successful MMA bettors do, and that's use parlays to help minimize some of this big juice.

So my first bet is my first ever Formula 1 parlay.

Kyvat -210 over Vergne with Hamilton -290 over Rosberg.  This lets us bet 1 unit to win 1.

Also, I'm going to take Bottas -150 top 3, and Ricciardo -300 top 6. 

I may have some more plays if they release more plays before the race, but I'm gonna be pretty conservative here with the new track, and some of the inconsistency of the drivers I like to support. 
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I'm very excited to watch this race, as it's the very first Russian Grand Prix.  I was pretty impressed to see how Russian doesn't want to let their Olympic venues go to waste like other countries have done (Hello Greece), and this track is one of those additions.  It goes around some of the Sochi facilities, and apparently it will be opened all year for testing.  They also will have a driving school out of this venue.

Couple of interesting fun facts I learned doing research on this race:

1.  Putin actually loves F1 racing, is very excited to have the race and even got to drive an F1 car in 2010 .
2.  This course cost about $330 million to make.  However, the shocking thing is that the Abu Dhabi track cost $1.3 BILLION.  That's not a typo.
3.  Even though it's not on city streets, the design is very similar to that of a street course.  Lots of 90 degree turns.

Ok, so on to the betting.  Hamilton clearly the favorite, but -275 is unreal.  Too much to lay in my opinion.  Mercedes have had some trouble at times with mechanical and braking issues so I'm not going to lay that much with a win.

The juice the books are laying on these bets is getting pretty bad.  If you want to take Kyvat to finish in the top 10 you need to lay -300...it's a joke. 

So I'm going to start doing something that I notice some of the successful MMA bettors do, and that's use parlays to help minimize some of this big juice.

So my first bet is my first ever Formula 1 parlay.

Kyvat -210 over Vergne with Hamilton -290 over Rosberg.  This lets us bet 1 unit to win 1.

Also, I'm going to take Bottas -150 top 3, and Ricciardo -300 top 6. 

I may have some more plays if they release more plays before the race, but I'm gonna be pretty conservative here with the new track, and some of the inconsistency of the drivers I like to support. 
 
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So am I getting good value if I can get Lewis -130 to win the race right now?
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So am I getting good value if I can get Lewis

-130 to win the race right now?


Uuuummmmm....where is that?!?

The answer is yes, and you should take it immediately.
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So am I getting good value if I can get Lewis

-130 to win the race right now?


Uuuummmmm....where is that?!?

The answer is yes, and you should take it immediately.
 
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Local 

Bottas is +1200... I may cover the Lewis bet with him

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Bottas is +1200... I may cover the Lewis bet with him

Thanks for the response 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lcpa3:

Local Bottas is +1200... I may cover the

Quote Originally Posted by lcpa3:

Local Bottas is +1200... I may cover the Lewis bet with himThanks for the response


No problem. Good luck!
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Quote Originally Posted by lcpa3:

Local Bottas is +1200... I may cover the Lewis bet with himThanks for the response


No problem. Good luck!
 
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I know Red Bull is struggling with pace this week,
but +230 on Ricciardo over Bottas represents tremendous value.

I'm taking DR +230 as my only play this week.

I hear tire degradation should not be an issue.
The Sochi track is super smooth.

enjoy the race.
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I know Red Bull is struggling with pace this week,
but +230 on Ricciardo over Bottas represents tremendous value.

I'm taking DR +230 as my only play this week.

I hear tire degradation should not be an issue.
The Sochi track is super smooth.

enjoy the race.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SkySky:

I know Red Bull is struggling with pace this week,
but +230 on Ricciardo over Bottas represents tremendous value.

I'm taking DR +230 as my only play this week.

I hear tire degradation should not be an issue.
The Sochi track is super smooth.

enjoy the race.


Bottas has almost the pace of the 2 mercedes.Now can such a play have value?he only way to win this for you is if bottas wreck ot has a technical problem.

What do you guys think of the button / alonso matchup?
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I know Red Bull is struggling with pace this week,
but +230 on Ricciardo over Bottas represents tremendous value.

I'm taking DR +230 as my only play this week.

I hear tire degradation should not be an issue.
The Sochi track is super smooth.

enjoy the race.


Bottas has almost the pace of the 2 mercedes.Now can such a play have value?he only way to win this for you is if bottas wreck ot has a technical problem.

What do you guys think of the button / alonso matchup?
 
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Alonso/Button is a toss up. Slight lean to Alonso, but I Wong be playing that matchup.
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Vettel will be in a Ferrari for sure, Alonso out. All the Alonso guys are gone!!! Kimi is safe, even more so with the Bianchi disaster!!! Ferrari is trying to do a redo of the Schuey years. Alonso to McLaren, Button out. They better keep Magnusson, I like him even after his antics on the track. One more thing about Vettel and Red Bull, I think after he pulled that trick with Webber at Sepang last year the handwriting was on the wall!!! This years car was set up nice for DR and Vettel well time to move on.
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Vettel will be in a Ferrari for sure, Alonso out. All the Alonso guys are gone!!! Kimi is safe, even more so with the Bianchi disaster!!! Ferrari is trying to do a redo of the Schuey years. Alonso to McLaren, Button out. They better keep Magnusson, I like him even after his antics on the track. One more thing about Vettel and Red Bull, I think after he pulled that trick with Webber at Sepang last year the handwriting was on the wall!!! This years car was set up nice for DR and Vettel well time to move on.
 
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United States Grand Prix

The best thing about this race is that I don't have to get up at 4am to watch it.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what is going to be too different about this race than most of the others.  Hamilton, and Rosberg will be battling for the win...everyone else will be battling behind them.

I'm going to keep my bets very simple today because the odds are getting ridiculous this late in the season.  Same thing happened last year, so it's not worth it to lay all that juice at this point.

Massa -115 over Ricciardo
Button -120 over Vettel

Really wanted to get some bets in supporting Bottas, but nothing attracted me enough to pull the trigger.  GL today everyone
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The best thing about this race is that I don't have to get up at 4am to watch it.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what is going to be too different about this race than most of the others.  Hamilton, and Rosberg will be battling for the win...everyone else will be battling behind them.

I'm going to keep my bets very simple today because the odds are getting ridiculous this late in the season.  Same thing happened last year, so it's not worth it to lay all that juice at this point.

Massa -115 over Ricciardo
Button -120 over Vettel

Really wanted to get some bets in supporting Bottas, but nothing attracted me enough to pull the trigger.  GL today everyone
 
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Brazilian Grand Prix

I've been in a bit of a slump lately.  Looking to bounce back.  Not going to be a big writeup because I am currently sick as a dog.

Bottas top 6
Ricciardo top 6
Alonso over Button
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I've been in a bit of a slump lately.  Looking to bounce back.  Not going to be a big writeup because I am currently sick as a dog.

Bottas top 6
Ricciardo top 6
Alonso over Button
 
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I am definitely in the worse slump of F1 betting.  Just a really bad run.  It seems no matter who I pick recently has mechanical issues, pit issues or some other random thing.  Awful 
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So last race of the season and I got a middle going. Rosberg after winter testing 10 to win 180. Hamilton 150 to win 150 after I knew Ricciardo couldn't catch them. Now I'll be rooting for Rosberg just because I'm not a huge Hamilton fan, but I respect him!!!!
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So last race of the season and I got a middle going. Rosberg after winter testing 10 to win 180. Hamilton 150 to win 150 after I knew Ricciardo couldn't catch them. Now I'll be rooting for Rosberg just because I'm not a huge Hamilton fan, but I respect him!!!!
 
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I'm with you Ferrari.  I've got lots of futures to cash in this Sunday regardless of who wins as well.  Should be a good race.  Think Hamilton pulls a Schumacher and takes out Rosberg in the first turn?
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I'm with you Ferrari.  I've got lots of futures to cash in this Sunday regardless of who wins as well.  Should be a good race.  Think Hamilton pulls a Schumacher and takes out Rosberg in the first turn?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

I'm with you Ferrari.  I've got lots of futures to cash in this Sunday regardless of who wins as well.  Should be a good race.  Think Hamilton pulls a Schumacher and takes out Rosberg in the first turn?


what futures you got?????? I'm rooting for you. No Hamilton isn't evil like Schuey or Senna was!!!!!!!
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I'm with you Ferrari.  I've got lots of futures to cash in this Sunday regardless of who wins as well.  Should be a good race.  Think Hamilton pulls a Schumacher and takes out Rosberg in the first turn?


what futures you got?????? I'm rooting for you. No Hamilton isn't evil like Schuey or Senna was!!!!!!!
 
 
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what futures you got?????? I'm rooting for you. No Hamilton isn't evil like Schuey or Senna was!!!!!!!


I've got 3 Rosberg's at plus money, one Hamilton at plus money, and a Hamilton at -105.  I'll turn a profit regardless, but it would be more profitable is Rosberg pulled it out.

I may not even wager on this race, and just watch it to see what happens.  I gotta believe Hamilton doesn't take any chances and just stays in second place all race.
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what futures you got?????? I'm rooting for you. No Hamilton isn't evil like Schuey or Senna was!!!!!!!


I've got 3 Rosberg's at plus money, one Hamilton at plus money, and a Hamilton at -105.  I'll turn a profit regardless, but it would be more profitable is Rosberg pulled it out.

I may not even wager on this race, and just watch it to see what happens.  I gotta believe Hamilton doesn't take any chances and just stays in second place all race.
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