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    ClubDirt
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2011 - 6:23 PM ET #1

    where are the fats?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    where are the fats?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2011 - 4:13 PM ET #2

    You do know that that is a plate, not a pyramid, right? Let me know if you need help with that knife/fork thing.
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    You do know that that is a plate, not a pyramid, right? Let me know if you need help with that knife/fork thing.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2011 - 6:10 PM ET #3

    I have always wondered why fruits and vegetables are not classified under the same category?  They both can be grown from the earth, so how are they different?
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    I have always wondered why fruits and vegetables are not classified under the same category?  They both can be grown from the earth, so how are they different?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2169:

    I have always wondered why fruits and vegetables are not classified under the same category?  They both can be grown from the earth, so how are they different?


    All fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.  Should just have a big vegetable slice on the dish.

    But grains are grown from the earth too, should those also go in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2169:

    I have always wondered why fruits and vegetables are not classified under the same category?  They both can be grown from the earth, so how are they different?


    All fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.  Should just have a big vegetable slice on the dish.

    But grains are grown from the earth too, should those also go in there.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2011 - 2:41 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    where are the fats?



    "Proteins" can have fats too.  Vegetables can too as well, ala avocados.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    where are the fats?



    "Proteins" can have fats too.  Vegetables can too as well, ala avocados.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2011 - 5:06 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    "Proteins" can have fats too.  Vegetables can too as well, ala avocados.

     

    that's fine but they really need to send the message that people should be eating fats instead of the bullshit nonsense they've been spewing about carbohydrates to help whatever lobbyists have their hands in their pockets. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    "Proteins" can have fats too.  Vegetables can too as well, ala avocados.

     

    that's fine but they really need to send the message that people should be eating fats instead of the bullshit nonsense they've been spewing about carbohydrates to help whatever lobbyists have their hands in their pockets. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2011 - 10:40 PM ET #7

    Fats and protein are the most important things for humans. Carbohydrates are not an essential nutrient in humans. 

    Yet 4 out of the 5 portions contain significant amounts of carbohydrate. Starchy foods such as rice, pasta, bread contain very few of the essential amino acids and nutrients we need which is why these foods have to be enriched with vitamins and minerals not to mention that they make us fat in the way they affect our insulin and fat storing. Fruits are high in sugar  and should only be eaten occasionally. I would reduce the fruits and grains section in about half each and replace them with fats. The vegetables and protein can stay.  I do have a problem with dairy but its better than drinking soda and fruit juices.

    One major problem with this new food plate is that if you eat this way you there is a good chance you will constantly be hungry because of the lack of fat. A diet which has a high potential to cause cravings and will not satiate you should be questioned. 
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    Fats and protein are the most important things for humans. Carbohydrates are not an essential nutrient in humans. 

    Yet 4 out of the 5 portions contain significant amounts of carbohydrate. Starchy foods such as rice, pasta, bread contain very few of the essential amino acids and nutrients we need which is why these foods have to be enriched with vitamins and minerals not to mention that they make us fat in the way they affect our insulin and fat storing. Fruits are high in sugar  and should only be eaten occasionally. I would reduce the fruits and grains section in about half each and replace them with fats. The vegetables and protein can stay.  I do have a problem with dairy but its better than drinking soda and fruit juices.

    One major problem with this new food plate is that if you eat this way you there is a good chance you will constantly be hungry because of the lack of fat. A diet which has a high potential to cause cravings and will not satiate you should be questioned. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2011 - 2:48 PM ET #8

    I'm with Club on this..... I eat a pound of butter a week.  No fat on this body.

    Carbs are the enemy.  Fats have nutrients and a lot of shit is only soluable in fat.

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    I'm with Club on this..... I eat a pound of butter a week.  No fat on this body.

    Carbs are the enemy.  Fats have nutrients and a lot of shit is only soluable in fat.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2011 - 2:51 PM ET #9

    Butter is just condensed milk.  The most balanced food source there is. 

    Milk is the only food which contains everything you need.

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    Butter is just condensed milk.  The most balanced food source there is. 

    Milk is the only food which contains everything you need.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2011 - 3:24 PM ET #10

    Not a doctor but thinking excess digested food turns into fat.  Hard to overeat fat.  Real hard.  But can slam back 5 pounds of pizza and the carbs get digested quicker which probably means they are stored.
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    Not a doctor but thinking excess digested food turns into fat.  Hard to overeat fat.  Real hard.  But can slam back 5 pounds of pizza and the carbs get digested quicker which probably means they are stored.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2011 - 11:24 PM ET #11

    Excess eating of carbs raises insulin levels and high insulin levels are associated w/ inflammation in the bloodstream. What does that do? It causes arteriosclerosis. That causes clogging in the arteries, not cholesterol. These doctors and pharmaceuitcal companies have it fucking assbackwards,but business is good for them so why change it.
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    Excess eating of carbs raises insulin levels and high insulin levels are associated w/ inflammation in the bloodstream. What does that do? It causes arteriosclerosis. That causes clogging in the arteries, not cholesterol. These doctors and pharmaceuitcal companies have it fucking assbackwards,but business is good for them so why change it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2011 - 11:31 AM ET #12

    Curious on what "excess" carbs is.

    No clue but is two slices of pizza excess carbs?  Not to reduce but just to maintain.

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    Curious on what "excess" carbs is.

    No clue but is two slices of pizza excess carbs?  Not to reduce but just to maintain.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2011 - 11:40 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    All fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.  Should just have a big vegetable slice on the dish.

    But grains are grown from the earth too, should those also go in there.


    Maybe grains should be considered in the same food group, and maybe it will happen one day.  When I break it down, I'm only eating food that is raised, and food that is grown. I don't see how fat is a food group, fats come from food so that eliminates one group.  If I eat natural foods I will consume fat.  Dairy is a product of milk from cows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    All fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.  Should just have a big vegetable slice on the dish.

    But grains are grown from the earth too, should those also go in there.


    Maybe grains should be considered in the same food group, and maybe it will happen one day.  When I break it down, I'm only eating food that is raised, and food that is grown. I don't see how fat is a food group, fats come from food so that eliminates one group.  If I eat natural foods I will consume fat.  Dairy is a product of milk from cows.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2011 - 9:51 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Curious on what "excess" carbs is.

    No clue but is two slices of pizza excess carbs?  Not to reduce but just to maintain.

    it's all relative but unless you are on some crazy atkins diet eating steak, bacon and eggs for every meal, you'll get plenty of carbs by just eating a decent amount of fruits and vegetables. the way i look at it, any carbs outside of what you get from fruits and vegetables would be excess carbs. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Curious on what "excess" carbs is.

    No clue but is two slices of pizza excess carbs?  Not to reduce but just to maintain.

    it's all relative but unless you are on some crazy atkins diet eating steak, bacon and eggs for every meal, you'll get plenty of carbs by just eating a decent amount of fruits and vegetables. the way i look at it, any carbs outside of what you get from fruits and vegetables would be excess carbs. 

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