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    Anybody take or have any insight on amino acids?

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    TRAIN69
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    Posted: May. 23, 2012 - 10:57 PM ET #1

    Just curious if it was worth taking a supplement and several of you seem to have a lot of knowledge.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Just curious if it was worth taking a supplement and several of you seem to have a lot of knowledge.

     

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    jshep
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    Posted: May. 23, 2012 - 11:13 PM ET #2

    Train just browsing around and stumbled upon this, remember you from college football season...excellent shit. BCAA's are one hell of a supplement in my opinion. Im sure you have read up on exactly what they are, produced, and effects of them based on necessary needs. I began taking BCAAs about 6 months ago and I have noticed a world of difference. I hate the pill formula because you have to take so damn many of them to get the ideal volume for me. Based on what you are using them for, just make sure you get the luecine volume you are looking for, by far the most important of the main branches. I have noticed a world of difference in my lifting and physical abilities. Right now im still running Xtend BCAA...great flavors and decent amount of volume, i just double the dosage in order to get my needs.  Only thing about this formula is they are very secretive about the way they comprise their formulas but its pretty much the same. I am looking at trying Monster Amino due to the high volume of leucine. Not sure if this helps you out but thats just my opinion.

    Plain and simple version...they are great!
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    Train just browsing around and stumbled upon this, remember you from college football season...excellent shit. BCAA's are one hell of a supplement in my opinion. Im sure you have read up on exactly what they are, produced, and effects of them based on necessary needs. I began taking BCAAs about 6 months ago and I have noticed a world of difference. I hate the pill formula because you have to take so damn many of them to get the ideal volume for me. Based on what you are using them for, just make sure you get the luecine volume you are looking for, by far the most important of the main branches. I have noticed a world of difference in my lifting and physical abilities. Right now im still running Xtend BCAA...great flavors and decent amount of volume, i just double the dosage in order to get my needs.  Only thing about this formula is they are very secretive about the way they comprise their formulas but its pretty much the same. I am looking at trying Monster Amino due to the high volume of leucine. Not sure if this helps you out but thats just my opinion.

    Plain and simple version...they are great!
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2012 - 12:12 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by jshep:

    Train just browsing around and stumbled upon this, remember you from college football season...excellent shit. BCAA's are one hell of a supplement in my opinion. Im sure you have read up on exactly what they are, produced, and effects of them based on necessary needs. I began taking BCAAs about 6 months ago and I have noticed a world of difference. I hate the pill formula because you have to take so damn many of them to get the ideal volume for me. Based on what you are using them for, just make sure you get the luecine volume you are looking for, by far the most important of the main branches. I have noticed a world of difference in my lifting and physical abilities. Right now im still running Xtend BCAA...great flavors and decent amount of volume, i just double the dosage in order to get my needs.  Only thing about this formula is they are very secretive about the way they comprise their formulas but its pretty much the same. I am looking at trying Monster Amino due to the high volume of leucine. Not sure if this helps you out but thats just my opinion.

    Plain and simple version...they are great!

    Thanks for the thoughts and info on your experience! Obviously the pills are bulky, but do/did they help (if you took them)? Seems like the powder would be better/quicker for absorbtion (obviously).

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jshep:

    Train just browsing around and stumbled upon this, remember you from college football season...excellent shit. BCAA's are one hell of a supplement in my opinion. Im sure you have read up on exactly what they are, produced, and effects of them based on necessary needs. I began taking BCAAs about 6 months ago and I have noticed a world of difference. I hate the pill formula because you have to take so damn many of them to get the ideal volume for me. Based on what you are using them for, just make sure you get the luecine volume you are looking for, by far the most important of the main branches. I have noticed a world of difference in my lifting and physical abilities. Right now im still running Xtend BCAA...great flavors and decent amount of volume, i just double the dosage in order to get my needs.  Only thing about this formula is they are very secretive about the way they comprise their formulas but its pretty much the same. I am looking at trying Monster Amino due to the high volume of leucine. Not sure if this helps you out but thats just my opinion.

    Plain and simple version...they are great!

    Thanks for the thoughts and info on your experience! Obviously the pills are bulky, but do/did they help (if you took them)? Seems like the powder would be better/quicker for absorbtion (obviously).

     

     
    jshep
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    Posted: May. 24, 2012 - 1:00 AM ET #4

    Love the stuff, I run through a tub quite frequently because ill mix a scoop with some shakes throughout the day. The pills did not help as much compared to the powder, more than likely due to the absorption rate of pills vs straight powder. I know with the pills that I use as a backup for when I run out, I have to take 6 pills at a time to even get 4g worth (1-2scoops of powder pending the brand you get). Powder is a much more viable option since its a little easier to keep with you in a bag or in a shaker cup. I tend to lose the pills when i put them in my pocket
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    Love the stuff, I run through a tub quite frequently because ill mix a scoop with some shakes throughout the day. The pills did not help as much compared to the powder, more than likely due to the absorption rate of pills vs straight powder. I know with the pills that I use as a backup for when I run out, I have to take 6 pills at a time to even get 4g worth (1-2scoops of powder pending the brand you get). Powder is a much more viable option since its a little easier to keep with you in a bag or in a shaker cup. I tend to lose the pills when i put them in my pocket
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #5

    Unless you are lifting weights hard, heavy and in fasted state I don't think there is a need for BCAA supplementation. If you are then taking BCAA's  before a fasted workout seems to be more effective than after.  If you were planning on continuing to fast post-workout then more doses every 45 minutes - 1 hour or so should prevent muscle breakdown until you eat some food.  If you are already eating plenty of meat and eggs then you don't need to supplement. There are no negatives to supplementing other than the fact that it could become expensive.

    If you are having trouble dealing with cravings for sugar, starches and alcohol then you can try L-Glutamine. The reason it helps is because the brain can temporarily use it for fuel. It also helps regenerate gastro-intestinal mucosa.
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    Unless you are lifting weights hard, heavy and in fasted state I don't think there is a need for BCAA supplementation. If you are then taking BCAA's  before a fasted workout seems to be more effective than after.  If you were planning on continuing to fast post-workout then more doses every 45 minutes - 1 hour or so should prevent muscle breakdown until you eat some food.  If you are already eating plenty of meat and eggs then you don't need to supplement. There are no negatives to supplementing other than the fact that it could become expensive.

    If you are having trouble dealing with cravings for sugar, starches and alcohol then you can try L-Glutamine. The reason it helps is because the brain can temporarily use it for fuel. It also helps regenerate gastro-intestinal mucosa.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2012 - 10:12 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Unless you are lifting weights hard, heavy and in fasted state I don't think there is a need for BCAA supplementation. If you are then taking BCAA's  before a fasted workout seems to be more effective than after.  If you were planning on continuing to fast post-workout then more doses every 45 minutes - 1 hour or so should prevent muscle breakdown until you eat some food.  If you are already eating plenty of meat and eggs then you don't need to supplement. There are no negatives to supplementing other than the fact that it could become expensive.

    If you are having trouble dealing with cravings for sugar, starches and alcohol then you can try L-Glutamine. The reason it helps is because the brain can temporarily use it for fuel. It also helps regenerate gastro-intestinal mucosa.


    Thanks for the input Sharp. I lift at least 3 days a week, often 4 or 5. I lift in the morning and dont eat before my workout, usually just a protein shake. Would BCAAs benefit me given that while not fasting, my body has basically gone 12+ hours without food and then got a small protein shake to work with (try to keep it under 300 cals)?

    Any thoughts on supplements you would recommend? I have read good things about L Caritine....


    Sharp
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Unless you are lifting weights hard, heavy and in fasted state I don't think there is a need for BCAA supplementation. If you are then taking BCAA's  before a fasted workout seems to be more effective than after.  If you were planning on continuing to fast post-workout then more doses every 45 minutes - 1 hour or so should prevent muscle breakdown until you eat some food.  If you are already eating plenty of meat and eggs then you don't need to supplement. There are no negatives to supplementing other than the fact that it could become expensive.

    If you are having trouble dealing with cravings for sugar, starches and alcohol then you can try L-Glutamine. The reason it helps is because the brain can temporarily use it for fuel. It also helps regenerate gastro-intestinal mucosa.


    Thanks for the input Sharp. I lift at least 3 days a week, often 4 or 5. I lift in the morning and dont eat before my workout, usually just a protein shake. Would BCAAs benefit me given that while not fasting, my body has basically gone 12+ hours without food and then got a small protein shake to work with (try to keep it under 300 cals)?

    Any thoughts on supplements you would recommend? I have read good things about L Caritine....


    Sharp
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2012 - 10:44 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:



    Thanks for the input Sharp. I lift at least 3 days a week, often 4 or 5. I lift in the morning and dont eat before my workout, usually just a protein shake. Would BCAAs benefit me given that while not fasting, my body has basically gone 12+ hours without food and then got a small protein shake to work with (try to keep it under 300 cals)?

    Any thoughts on supplements you would recommend? I have read good things about L Caritine....


    Sharp



    Technically it's L Carnitine.




























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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:



    Thanks for the input Sharp. I lift at least 3 days a week, often 4 or 5. I lift in the morning and dont eat before my workout, usually just a protein shake. Would BCAAs benefit me given that while not fasting, my body has basically gone 12+ hours without food and then got a small protein shake to work with (try to keep it under 300 cals)?

    Any thoughts on supplements you would recommend? I have read good things about L Caritine....


    Sharp



    Technically it's L Carnitine.




























     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 7:27 AM ET #8

    Amino Acids is pretty much a waste, focus on proper over-all diet instead. There is amino acids in proteins as well, so you will do no good by isoliting the acids, its pretty much waste of money.

    Whey and Creatine is basically all you need. And Whey isn't even needed... So creatine would be the most important supplement you can take out there.
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    Amino Acids is pretty much a waste, focus on proper over-all diet instead. There is amino acids in proteins as well, so you will do no good by isoliting the acids, its pretty much waste of money.

    Whey and Creatine is basically all you need. And Whey isn't even needed... So creatine would be the most important supplement you can take out there.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 12:06 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:




    Technically it's L Carnitine.






























    Zing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:




    Technically it's L Carnitine.






























    Zing!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Amino Acids is pretty much a waste, focus on proper over-all diet instead. There is amino acids in proteins as well, so you will do no good by isoliting the acids, its pretty much waste of money.

    Whey and Creatine is basically all you need. And Whey isn't even needed... So creatine would be the most important supplement you can take out there.


    You also think Lebron is better than MJ. I can no longer take anything you say seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Amino Acids is pretty much a waste, focus on proper over-all diet instead. There is amino acids in proteins as well, so you will do no good by isoliting the acids, its pretty much waste of money.

    Whey and Creatine is basically all you need. And Whey isn't even needed... So creatine would be the most important supplement you can take out there.


    You also think Lebron is better than MJ. I can no longer take anything you say seriously.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 1:07 PM ET #11

    Enjoy wasting your money my friend
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    Enjoy wasting your money my friend
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 7:02 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Enjoy wasting your money my friend


    Should I buy an MJ autograph or Lebron ? Which do you think will be more valuable in 50 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Enjoy wasting your money my friend


    Should I buy an MJ autograph or Lebron ? Which do you think will be more valuable in 50 years?
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #13

    Idk
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    Idk
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Idk

    That was a trick question. There is only one correct answer and it aint Lebron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Idk

    That was a trick question. There is only one correct answer and it aint Lebron.
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2012 - 7:08 PM ET #15

    Ok.
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    Ok.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2012 - 8:05 PM ET #16

    BCAA's are far from a waist of money Train. I dont know what this guy is attempting to state. Noticed a huge difference in my training with them. However, without proper dieting, then they are a waste. I saw that you stated you fast before working out in the morning and down a shake of whey. BCAA's would be beneficial to you since you are fasting because it will help preserve some of the muscle break down since you do not have any food/energy sources to be running on. It all depends on what your goals are with lifting... muscle size, muscle strength, body composition, or just overall health. I lift in the afternoon in order to fully have complete dedication in mind and proper nutrition before and after. Creatine is a very powerful supplement, but again it really depends on your overall goals...and then there are 2 main types of creatine that you will have to distinguish from. Supps I take: preworkout, whey protein (3x a day because i cant eat 6 meals a day), creatine, BCAA, test booster, and casein protein.
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    BCAA's are far from a waist of money Train. I dont know what this guy is attempting to state. Noticed a huge difference in my training with them. However, without proper dieting, then they are a waste. I saw that you stated you fast before working out in the morning and down a shake of whey. BCAA's would be beneficial to you since you are fasting because it will help preserve some of the muscle break down since you do not have any food/energy sources to be running on. It all depends on what your goals are with lifting... muscle size, muscle strength, body composition, or just overall health. I lift in the afternoon in order to fully have complete dedication in mind and proper nutrition before and after. Creatine is a very powerful supplement, but again it really depends on your overall goals...and then there are 2 main types of creatine that you will have to distinguish from. Supps I take: preworkout, whey protein (3x a day because i cant eat 6 meals a day), creatine, BCAA, test booster, and casein protein.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2012 - 10:00 PM ET #17

    Test booster?
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    Test booster?
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 3:50 PM ET #18

    yes a test booster. you obviously have no concept for supplements if you dont understand the benefits of BCAA's or a test booster. enjoy being small
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    yes a test booster. you obviously have no concept for supplements if you dont understand the benefits of BCAA's or a test booster. enjoy being small
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:00 PM ET #19

    Ohh yeah, please teach me about training, would ya?

    Why not just do roids then, no reason to pack it in...

    There is 2 options here;

    1. Either it's not a "test booster".

    2. Basically the same as roids.

    There is nothing that boosts your testosterone level without being juicy, and also, if you take your test booster orally then you surely do not want to live on this planet anymore.

    Enjoy being robbed for your money with all these "test power mass-in-the-ass insane muscle booster 40000" on the market. Waste of money. Unless you want to be on the juice, thats your choice then. But you prolly dont do it to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter, you do it to be the king of your village. Have fun.
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    Ohh yeah, please teach me about training, would ya?

    Why not just do roids then, no reason to pack it in...

    There is 2 options here;

    1. Either it's not a "test booster".

    2. Basically the same as roids.

    There is nothing that boosts your testosterone level without being juicy, and also, if you take your test booster orally then you surely do not want to live on this planet anymore.

    Enjoy being robbed for your money with all these "test power mass-in-the-ass insane muscle booster 40000" on the market. Waste of money. Unless you want to be on the juice, thats your choice then. But you prolly dont do it to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter, you do it to be the king of your village. Have fun.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:09 PM ET #20

    Dont need to waste my time in teaching you anything because your posts on nutrition is way off. Really... "a calorie is a calorie"? you sir are a complete retard for posting that. you post a picture of bodybuilders as your avatar in hopes that someone will listen to your advice...too bad just about everything you say is incorrect and what you do manage to add is copy and pasted from somewhere else or its just down right common sense.

    if you do your research you will see that there are test boosters that do work. Most of them, yes, are a complete waste of money. as a type 1 diabetic, i get blood work on the regular. included in these i have had the test ran and yes, elevated levels simply from the booster. so your statement of no such thing as a test booster... false. try again?

    i dont waste my money on supplements. i do the research and know exactly what i am putting into my body.

    im not on steroids, i know all about them and could easily school you in them.  any one who calls them "juicy", much less "roids" has no knowledge about them to begin with. let me guess... you believe steroids make you angry too, right? being on steroids is not just for bodybuilders and power lifters. tard
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    Dont need to waste my time in teaching you anything because your posts on nutrition is way off. Really... "a calorie is a calorie"? you sir are a complete retard for posting that. you post a picture of bodybuilders as your avatar in hopes that someone will listen to your advice...too bad just about everything you say is incorrect and what you do manage to add is copy and pasted from somewhere else or its just down right common sense.

    if you do your research you will see that there are test boosters that do work. Most of them, yes, are a complete waste of money. as a type 1 diabetic, i get blood work on the regular. included in these i have had the test ran and yes, elevated levels simply from the booster. so your statement of no such thing as a test booster... false. try again?

    i dont waste my money on supplements. i do the research and know exactly what i am putting into my body.

    im not on steroids, i know all about them and could easily school you in them.  any one who calls them "juicy", much less "roids" has no knowledge about them to begin with. let me guess... you believe steroids make you angry too, right? being on steroids is not just for bodybuilders and power lifters. tard
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:27 PM ET #21

    so your argument is my avatar? I had this avatar since day one...

    a calorie is a calorie when it comes to gain or loss of weight. You cant change the fact, even if u want to.

    I don't care bout what test booster u are using, you are brain damaged if u recommend others to use test boosters, there are thousands of other spots where u can optimize, diet training etc. But if u want to be a complete fool, go ahead. I bet u have lots to learn about diet and training, but when it comes to training some are very impatient (also when it comes to betting...)

    Yeah, please school me in roids, would ya? Where did i say that its not just for powerlifters and bodybuilders? You are an idiot if u take roids if its just to become the king of your village and because you are a trolling weekend warrior.
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    so your argument is my avatar? I had this avatar since day one...

    a calorie is a calorie when it comes to gain or loss of weight. You cant change the fact, even if u want to.

    I don't care bout what test booster u are using, you are brain damaged if u recommend others to use test boosters, there are thousands of other spots where u can optimize, diet training etc. But if u want to be a complete fool, go ahead. I bet u have lots to learn about diet and training, but when it comes to training some are very impatient (also when it comes to betting...)

    Yeah, please school me in roids, would ya? Where did i say that its not just for powerlifters and bodybuilders? You are an idiot if u take roids if its just to become the king of your village and because you are a trolling weekend warrior.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:33 PM ET #22

    The day you can find a testbooster that wont give a positive result on a doping test is what we in the bodybuilding world call; "The Unicorn Of The Supplement World" everyone talks about them, yet no1 have seen them.


    All test boosters are toy roids NOTHING else.

    There are some exceptions tho, because some may work, but then they are "illegal" and is basically the same as taking roids.

    A legit test booster has never been released, but enjoy wasting your money on some toy roids because u have faith in the supplement industry because they can fool the sheep simple mind.
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    The day you can find a testbooster that wont give a positive result on a doping test is what we in the bodybuilding world call; "The Unicorn Of The Supplement World" everyone talks about them, yet no1 have seen them.


    All test boosters are toy roids NOTHING else.

    There are some exceptions tho, because some may work, but then they are "illegal" and is basically the same as taking roids.

    A legit test booster has never been released, but enjoy wasting your money on some toy roids because u have faith in the supplement industry because they can fool the sheep simple mind.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #23

    I don't take anything. Just eat well and things seem to go pretty good.

    Training smart, eating a well balanced diet, putting in the time to cook and fucking shop at the grocery( ) store goes a long way.

    One meduim rare steak will deliver plenty of amino acids.

    Most guys are not good at this and the supplement industry feasts on it.

    Roids will put you into another world as far as recovery but nothing changes in responsibility above. They will develop a weak area that is genetically lacking (no not calves) but only for the duration of a cycle.

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    I don't take anything. Just eat well and things seem to go pretty good.

    Training smart, eating a well balanced diet, putting in the time to cook and fucking shop at the grocery( ) store goes a long way.

    One meduim rare steak will deliver plenty of amino acids.

    Most guys are not good at this and the supplement industry feasts on it.

    Roids will put you into another world as far as recovery but nothing changes in responsibility above. They will develop a weak area that is genetically lacking (no not calves) but only for the duration of a cycle.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #24

    And yes people tend to become angry at times as a result of steroids, it depends however on who you are as a person. Different mindset. Thats why "the wrong people" shouldn't do roids, it will ramble. A down to earth bodybuilder however has a higher chance of controlling it.
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    And yes people tend to become angry at times as a result of steroids, it depends however on who you are as a person. Different mindset. Thats why "the wrong people" shouldn't do roids, it will ramble. A down to earth bodybuilder however has a higher chance of controlling it.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2012 - 4:42 PM ET #25

    "Most guys are not good at this and the supplement industry feasts on it." <--- Spot on.

    Actually, i would rather recommend people to do "the-real-deal" instead of some stupid prohormons in test boosters, many of these test boosters are filled with shit no1 have any knowledge about, and that is what we call a research chemical that has yet to be researched on. It's much easier to guide people when it comes to the real juice. But i dont think u should do either of the two solutions, but i just said if u had to pick between then i would defintely go with the real deal instead of this BS.
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    "Most guys are not good at this and the supplement industry feasts on it." <--- Spot on.

    Actually, i would rather recommend people to do "the-real-deal" instead of some stupid prohormons in test boosters, many of these test boosters are filled with shit no1 have any knowledge about, and that is what we call a research chemical that has yet to be researched on. It's much easier to guide people when it comes to the real juice. But i dont think u should do either of the two solutions, but i just said if u had to pick between then i would defintely go with the real deal instead of this BS.
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